Because "people" as in "we the people" do not pass laws. Congresscritters on the hill pass the laws that their corporate overlords want them to pass regardless of us. The exceptions are when you have such a multi-million person outcry, they have to listen.
Private companies have control of the power, water, phone and cable services. This negates the municipality issue. However, those companies have to be licensed in and pay taxes to each county they operate in. In most places, the borders of a town/city do not cross county lines and therefore would not be in 2 counties. A metropolitan area is different and encompasses areas that are not technically within a city's borders but still considered part of the city. For instance, Marietta, Stone Mountain, Decatur, Union City, Alpharetta, Norcross, Roswell etc are all metropolitan areas and you could in theory have mail addressed as 1234 street Atlanta GA 300xx and still get your mail even if you are in Douglasville.
They did, NC still passed the laws but grandfather in the existing co-ops. They are still restricted in that they cannot sell their unused bandwidth and/or services to any other county.
* Shelbyville and North Haverbrook have it, and they just sit in the park and develop content now instead working at real jobs.
Any proof that even a majority use the wifi for just posting to facebook / twitter?
* It's inexpensive, and the poor need an inexpensive way to go online. Presumably because the poor are all sitting in front of $1500 computers and just can't get online.
Or they could be sitting in front of
* There's no other way to get broadband, despite the entire city being served by Comcast ($69, 10/3 Biz Class w/29 static) or Qwest DSL (multiple ISP choices at varying price/service levels).
This is limited by area within the city as well as physical infrastructure. I have a restaurant (in East Atlanta) that employees me to keep their network and systems up and running. They had to buy Clear because comcast wanted $2000 to run cable into the building and a minumum of $269 / month. AT&T DSL doesn't work as they are too far from the DSLAM that they are routed to.
Chattanooga has a nice system where each of the public transit buses broadcasts wifi as they travel around the city. It's supposed to be for riders of the bus, but you can easily access it while walking down the streets.
The law... Yo can't due to regulations that you as a small business can't feasibly comply with. This is why all the smaller companies go with WiFi (Clear et al). Even if you do succeed, the big boys will just sue you over rights or have the government step in and shut you down for anti-competitive practices or pass legislation like North Carolina did on who you can and can't sell your service to. (re: Greenlight in Wilson, NC)
That's something that bothers the hell out of me. I live in Georgia, the major metropolitan areas are blue areas, but because of the farm areas down south and the northern rednecks, the state end up voting red... kills me that rednecks in rural areas get to make the rules for those of us living in the metro area.
The infrastructure here is complete shit and ruled by comcast / charter. Take away the government money, bills go up to compensate. Let them continue with the government money, they will increase prices and not upgrade shit anyhow.
This state blows nuts. I'll be glad when I'm the hell out of here. This state is notorious for not siding or even giving a damn about it's people.
Remember, this is the same state that decided to test it's own version of math that didn't make any sense and caused thousands of students to fail exit exams.
No the whole point of a warrant is so that police can gather the evidence against you. It does not require you to produce evidence against yourself. This is what a subpoena would be for.
You are not required to hand over any keys at all, you can deny them the access and they can then hire professionals to unlock your safe. The state will charge you for the services, but you do not have to hand over the key.
A higher court could rule that you were coerced into providing evidence against yourself by providing the passphrase to your encrypted data.
Last 2 statements were directly out of the mouth of my attorney
Circumstantial evidence is... circumstantial. Do you think that Remington, S&W, Colt, AA etc only made 1 of each gun model ever? No, so the fact that a0 you own a gun and b) That it may be similar to the gun the robbery was committed with are purely coincidental.
true, but depending on the outcome of this farce, all "cloud" services in theory could be at risk. It would be a stretch to take out Amazon, but shit, it could be on the table.
As currently viewed, Mega* was committing a crime that the US feels it has jurisdiction over. According to law, the govt has the right to stop all business, detain the suspected criminal as well as evidence. In this instance, the "crime" is serving the files, thus the govt shuts down the site. Same as if you sell drugs out of your bodega.
It does not have to be the file itself, it is the container of the files. Look at it in this aspect: A law firm or accountant is investigated for misconduct. The government issues a search and seizure warrant. They can and will go in and remove the filing cabinets containing evidentiary documents and non-evidentiary documents as well.
Due process does apply, in theory. Also, the government has the right to shut down any business that is charged with the commission of a crime and confiscate any and all evidence pertaining to said crimes. This is why the site is down and the servers were confiscated.
Depends on whether the government concedes that it committed a tortious act or not. If not, they have to give permission for the suit to go forward. I am certain that there are many precedents already on the table that will show that the government withholding property of a 3rd party for the purpose of evidence in a criminal case is not considered a tortious act.
As a point, the government will be using all files hosted on those servers as evidence in the case. They will not likely, and are not required to, give access to those files.
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Because "people" as in "we the people" do not pass laws. Congresscritters on the hill pass the laws that their corporate overlords want them to pass regardless of us. The exceptions are when you have such a multi-million person outcry, they have to listen.
Would you please? It would so help us out in keeping you..."safe". It's for the kids you know.
Or those damn laws that wont even let you bury it in the 5ft of YOUR property that the government reserves rights to.
Twice apparently.
Private companies have control of the power, water, phone and cable services. This negates the municipality issue. However, those companies have to be licensed in and pay taxes to each county they operate in. In most places, the borders of a town/city do not cross county lines and therefore would not be in 2 counties. A metropolitan area is different and encompasses areas that are not technically within a city's borders but still considered part of the city. For instance, Marietta, Stone Mountain, Decatur, Union City, Alpharetta, Norcross, Roswell etc are all metropolitan areas and you could in theory have mail addressed as 1234 street Atlanta GA 300xx and still get your mail even if you are in Douglasville.
They did, NC still passed the laws but grandfather in the existing co-ops. They are still restricted in that they cannot sell their unused bandwidth and/or services to any other county.
I want something agreed upon, not something forced on one side or the other.
we should talk.
actually that hasn't been true for years. I don't have 2011's numbers, but in 2010 it was something like 55% broadband, 35% dialup.
well shit, we know how he is going to vote on any healthcare bills...
* Shelbyville and North Haverbrook have it, and they just sit in the park and develop content now instead working at real jobs.
Any proof that even a majority use the wifi for just posting to facebook / twitter?
* It's inexpensive, and the poor need an inexpensive way to go online. Presumably because the poor are all sitting in front of $1500 computers and just can't get online.
Or they could be sitting in front of
* There's no other way to get broadband, despite the entire city being served by Comcast ($69, 10/3 Biz Class w/29 static) or Qwest DSL (multiple ISP choices at varying price/service levels).
This is limited by area within the city as well as physical infrastructure. I have a restaurant (in East Atlanta) that employees me to keep their network and systems up and running. They had to buy Clear because comcast wanted $2000 to run cable into the building and a minumum of $269 / month. AT&T DSL doesn't work as they are too far from the DSLAM that they are routed to.
Chattanooga has a nice system where each of the public transit buses broadcasts wifi as they travel around the city. It's supposed to be for riders of the bus, but you can easily access it while walking down the streets.
That would constitute government interference and the ISP's wouldn't go for it. They own the last mile and they aren't going to give it up.
The law... Yo can't due to regulations that you as a small business can't feasibly comply with. This is why all the smaller companies go with WiFi (Clear et al). Even if you do succeed, the big boys will just sue you over rights or have the government step in and shut you down for anti-competitive practices or pass legislation like North Carolina did on who you can and can't sell your service to. (re: Greenlight in Wilson, NC)
That's something that bothers the hell out of me. I live in Georgia, the major metropolitan areas are blue areas, but because of the farm areas down south and the northern rednecks, the state end up voting red... kills me that rednecks in rural areas get to make the rules for those of us living in the metro area.
The infrastructure here is complete shit and ruled by comcast / charter. Take away the government money, bills go up to compensate. Let them continue with the government money, they will increase prices and not upgrade shit anyhow.
This state blows nuts. I'll be glad when I'm the hell out of here. This state is notorious for not siding or even giving a damn about it's people.
Remember, this is the same state that decided to test it's own version of math that didn't make any sense and caused thousands of students to fail exit exams.
No the whole point of a warrant is so that police can gather the evidence against you. It does not require you to produce evidence against yourself. This is what a subpoena would be for.
You are not required to hand over any keys at all, you can deny them the access and they can then hire professionals to unlock your safe. The state will charge you for the services, but you do not have to hand over the key.
A higher court could rule that you were coerced into providing evidence against yourself by providing the passphrase to your encrypted data.
Last 2 statements were directly out of the mouth of my attorney
Circumstantial evidence is... circumstantial. Do you think that Remington, S&W, Colt, AA etc only made 1 of each gun model ever? No, so the fact that a0 you own a gun and b) That it may be similar to the gun the robbery was committed with are purely coincidental.
I LOVE IT! Not only is a nutjob getting harassed, but they finally decided to harass someone that can do something to shut their asses down.
true, but depending on the outcome of this farce, all "cloud" services in theory could be at risk. It would be a stretch to take out Amazon, but shit, it could be on the table.
depends on if the government allows the suit or it is found to fall under the FTCA.
As currently viewed, Mega* was committing a crime that the US feels it has jurisdiction over. According to law, the govt has the right to stop all business, detain the suspected criminal as well as evidence. In this instance, the "crime" is serving the files, thus the govt shuts down the site. Same as if you sell drugs out of your bodega.
It does not have to be the file itself, it is the container of the files. Look at it in this aspect: A law firm or accountant is investigated for misconduct. The government issues a search and seizure warrant. They can and will go in and remove the filing cabinets containing evidentiary documents and non-evidentiary documents as well.
Due process does apply, in theory. Also, the government has the right to shut down any business that is charged with the commission of a crime and confiscate any and all evidence pertaining to said crimes. This is why the site is down and the servers were confiscated.
Depends on whether the government concedes that it committed a tortious act or not. If not, they have to give permission for the suit to go forward. I am certain that there are many precedents already on the table that will show that the government withholding property of a 3rd party for the purpose of evidence in a criminal case is not considered a tortious act.
As a point, the government will be using all files hosted on those servers as evidence in the case. They will not likely, and are not required to, give access to those files.