So, you believe that the universe just can't exist, but that God can.
Belief is not knowing if you believe then you are saying you do not know.
I'm not being hostile, I'm trying to help. If you accept that the universe is not the work of God maybe you'll try to find out what the universe is which can only be a 'good' thing.
I wouldn't say you believe in 'God' in the sense that most people say that they believe in God and I wouldn't have a problem if everyone that believed in god had the same kind of belief as you have.
You haven't been keeping up with modern governments.
Ok, you don't live in the UK but this is exactly what you are saying they aren't thinking about.
They also want to bring in ID cards in the UK.. and then people wonder why were a little paranoid.
Other things they have done in the last couple of years include,
Detailing someone for an unlimited period without charge. Removal of the right to trail by jury so some crimes. Removal of the double jeopardy rule, where you can't be tried twice for the same crime. Banning fox hunting (I don't agree with fox hunting, but then I think it should have been left to die out). Banning hand guns. Banning fireworks after 11pm. Imposed an automatic fine of £60 if you don't get you car tax in time. Reduce the age of criminal responsibility (famously reduced by the opposition leader about 10 years ago, making a 12 year old girl prostitute responsible for their actions) And the list goes on and on and on......
They don't sort out problems any more, they just ban the activity and watch you.
What is God: God is something that has an influence over us but At the same time we must have free will.
The Christmas challenge is, give me 1 example where this is true.
An explanation of my criteria. 1: If God does not effect us then there is no point in God in a present tense. 2: If we do not have free will then there is no point in belief.
If you think my criteria are wrong then please give me your description of God.
1: How do you know there is a God? Or to put it another way, if no one had ever told you about 'God' would your belief be the same?
2: Given your belief in God I can only assume that you try do things you believe that your God would find acceptable, things you believe to be moral. Do your actions truly effect no one and nothing else?
3: If that is the case then why do you believe in a God, just believe in yourself as that's what you appear to be doing. Next time put I believe in myself in the religion box, not God.
Put it this way, if your religion is based on 'good' and 'evil' then everything must be either good or evil.
Your religion must be good, well, because it's yours, anything that disagrees must be.. well.. bad and so should be stopped.
If on the other hand you don't have a religion or your religion isn't based on good and evil then you can have many shades of grey, someone else could be more right etc...
This isn't to say all problems would be solved, but a lot of the problems we have wouldn't be so great.
I remove the choice of people being able to cram that shit in my face.
I remove the choice of companies to take some of the money I've spent on a product and use it for advertising.
I remove the choice of Bush to invade another country in the name of God.
Sometimes it helps you too see the light of day if some of the choices have been removed.
Personally I hate shopping, I can't be bothered to choose anything. Blue cloths that look a bit like a medic, fine by me, after all blue's everyone's favourite colour.
1) Freedom of Religion. Good, mau had the right idea all along. Look at all the Christians and Jews and Muslims in power causing no end of mess around the world. The less religion the better, thank you China.
2) Freedom of Expression.
Well if that freedom of expression is either, Jesus is our saviour, god created the earth in 6 days, or Buy my shiny new capitalist pig, or Come here gamble your life away.
Then fuck'em, should have kept it shut and stopped trying to feed off the weak.
Consider this, the RIAA says that the high cost of CD's is down to........ Advertising, marketing, payola and 'production'
RIAA = what happened if you get freedom of expression.
Also consider that if I say 'the holocost never happened', or 'buy guns, kill George W Bush' I run the risk of having the thought police bust my door down.
Democracy, making sure you can shit on 49% of the people to butter up the other 51%.
Look at the UK if you don't believe me, Blair will get elected next time round, he's done the sums, he knows the liberals don't have a chance, so he shits on them. ID cards, dead people having rights (if you trying to shag them!), anti campaigner laws etc....
They also know that the snobby Conservative voters are too few, so he shits on them too.
Now he's just left with the 25k-60k income bracket people who just care about going to work and not having to see children on the way home and a few right wingers.
fortunately that's about 55% of the population and he's got them buttered up a treat.
The only possible chance we have of change of government is if some of those 25k-60k earners switch to Conservative and we get a hung election forcing in Proportional representation.
You forgot to mention. How Saddam came to power, after trying to overthrow the Iraqi covernment he lived in exile for many years, later to lead the iraqi people in the to overthrow the government (put inplace by the UK) and to become leader (a bit like old castro).
He then privatised all the oil and feed the money back into the country, oh and killed a few people kerds complaining)
He then spent a lot of money on himself (like which leader doesn't) everyone else and started to rebuild the wonders of the world.
Not to bad for a rebel milletry leader, well a lot better than the current lot.
Incidently Saddam allegedly killed 400,000 kurds in 10 years, the current death rate estimated as upto 100,000 in 3 years.
Bush also has mass graves to his name, just look out side any Texas prison.
-Who is entitled to change the wording of the GPL.- Anyone, but it isn't retrospective, you can only agree to what you have agreed so GPL 1 is still GPL 1.
-Could RMS in principle change the license to state that all the software belongs to him?
Yes but so could you, and again it wouldn't be retrospective.
-Who would be entitled to make new versions of the GPL if the leaders of the FSF died tomorrow?
Yes, but is wouldn't be retrospective.
-Where should I look to learn more about this?
Weel it depends where you live, lookup copyright and contract laws for your regions.
Cool, how about DRM next. (goto wiki and look up digital rights management) Scroll to the section about copyright. DRM breaks copyright laws, sometimes you cannot resell and you cannot un-DRM something to place it in the public domain.
We well manage to be ahead of the US to such an extent that no US company can break the market.
And why is this, because we don't have patents.
As for the Kyoto thing above, my carpet isn't as clean as it could be because I don't have a 'Dyson' vacuum cleaner, I have an inefficient power hungry one because I refuse to buy anything that's advertised as 'with 1 million patents and patents pending' and then charges twice as much as everyone else.
Dyson will never get a penny of my money so long as he holds onto those patents.
Here are some of Cliff's songs... that have nothing to do with sex of course.
1958 - Move It - No. 1
1959 - Living Doll - No. 1
1960 - Fall In Love With You - No. 2 (I bet you say that to all the girls!)
1960 - Please Don't Tease - No. 1 (Yeh right)
1960 - Nine Times Out of Ten - No. 3
1960 - I Love You - No. 1 (Girl number 6!)
1961 - Gee Whiz It's You - No. 4 (that makes 7)
1961 - A Girl Like You - No. 3
1961 - When The Girl In Your Arms.... - No. 3
1962 - Do You Wanna Dance - No. 2
1962 - The Next Time/Bachelor Boy - No. 1 (looks like they dumped him, must have been shit in bed!)
1963 - Lucky Lips - No. 4
1963 - It's All In The Game - No. 2
1963 - Don't Talk To Him -No. 2
1965 - The Minute You're Gone - No. 1
1965 - Wind Me Up(Let Me Go) - No. 2.....
He's only done 7 songs (I short album) in the last 20 years, no wonder he's feeling the pinch.
I hope someone with good hosting access can put up a fax you mp style lobying group to get this kind of digital rape out sorted out before it becomes 'common law' the problem is that under the 'current' system you'd have to wait 75 years + life to try it out (well except for Elvis!) The other problem is that god send of legislation the DMCA, it's my data but they've encrypted it. fuck.... think ID cards, biometrics &co, how can you find out what's on the card without violating the DMCA?
I think that whole life+ shit is crap, at most it should be life + 10 years if the material is passed on to 'dependants'. My daddy's a rock star so I'm going to bum of his work for the rest of my life.
Or more to the point, ah we just lost Mr Timberlake, good employee, don't worry though he'll be keeping us pretty for the next 75 years.
Cliff Richard's worried that his music will be used for a porn sound track (Jesus he's got a perverted mind, not wonder he has to go to church). From January 1st 2005 any recordings made on or prior to December 31 1954 will no longer be protected by UK copyright law. Record companies, artists and performers whose work falls into the public domain will no longer have the right to earn income from their work.
Is 50 years long enough or should copyright last forever?
I've seen Cliff Richard on TV moaning about this, may be because in a few years time a couple of his tracks will be expiring. Elvis, Rolling Stones and Beatles will be not long after.
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printed that off and gave it to my christian friends.
Merry Christmas, thank you.
I've got a stutter.
So, you believe that the universe just can't exist, but that God can.
Belief is not knowing if you believe then you are saying you do not know.
I'm not being hostile, I'm trying to help. If you accept that the universe is not the work of God maybe you'll try to find out what the universe is which can only be a 'good' thing.
I wouldn't say you believe in 'God' in the sense that most people say that they believe in God and I wouldn't have a problem if everyone that believed in god had the same kind of belief as you have.
You haven't been keeping up with modern governments.
Ok, you don't live in the UK but this is exactly what you are saying they aren't thinking about.
They also want to bring in ID cards in the UK.. and then people wonder why were a little paranoid.
Other things they have done in the last couple of years include,
Detailing someone for an unlimited period without charge.
Removal of the right to trail by jury so some crimes.
Removal of the double jeopardy rule, where you can't be tried twice for the same crime.
Banning fox hunting (I don't agree with fox hunting, but then I think it should have been left to die out).
Banning hand guns.
Banning fireworks after 11pm.
Imposed an automatic fine of £60 if you don't get you car tax in time.
Reduce the age of criminal responsibility (famously reduced by the opposition leader about 10 years ago, making a 12 year old girl prostitute responsible for their actions)
And the list goes on and on and on......
They don't sort out problems any more, they just ban the activity and watch you.
I'm sorry, I've just read you post properly.
I believe you are using the word God when you really mean 'something I don't know'
Don't use the word God, next time admit that you don't know.
What is God:
God is something that has an influence over us but
At the same time we must have free will.
The Christmas challenge is, give me 1 example where this is true.
An explanation of my criteria.
1: If God does not effect us then there is no point in God in a present tense.
2: If we do not have free will then there is no point in belief.
If you think my criteria are wrong then please give me your description of God.
1: How do you know there is a God?
Or to put it another way, if no one had ever told you about 'God' would your belief be the same?
2: Given your belief in God I can only assume that you try do things you believe that your God would find acceptable, things you believe to be moral. Do your actions truly effect no one and nothing else?
3: If that is the case then why do you believe in a God, just believe in yourself as that's what you appear to be doing. Next time put I believe in myself in the religion box, not God.
Do you believe in this religion[Sikh], or this one [jewish],or this one [christian] or this one[muslim].
If so then it affect me and millions of others every single day of my life.
If not then well done, I'm glad you found 'God' on your own.
Put it this way, if your religion is based on 'good' and 'evil' then everything must be either good or evil.
Your religion must be good, well, because it's yours, anything that disagrees must be.. well.. bad and so should be stopped.
If on the other hand you don't have a religion or your religion isn't based on good and evil then you can have many shades of grey, someone else could be more right etc...
This isn't to say all problems would be solved, but a lot of the problems we have wouldn't be so great.
Bookmarks, down, down, down, up, down ,up ,down, up, down, yes,yes,yes.
Thanks, I still hope to find a cure one day, even if that cure is preventing anyone else from getting infected.
Evey person who steps of the fence away from the 'control' of religion is a person saved.
I remove the choice of people being able to cram that shit in my face.
I remove the choice of companies to take some of the money I've spent on a product and use it for advertising.
I remove the choice of Bush to invade another country in the name of God.
Sometimes it helps you too see the light of day if some of the choices have been removed.
Personally I hate shopping, I can't be bothered to choose anything. Blue cloths that look a bit like a medic, fine by me, after all blue's everyone's favourite colour.
1) Freedom of Religion.
Good, mau had the right idea all along. Look at all the Christians and Jews and Muslims in power causing no end of mess around the world.
The less religion the better, thank you China.
2) Freedom of Expression.
Well if that freedom of expression is either, Jesus is our saviour, god created the earth in 6 days, or Buy my shiny new capitalist pig, or Come here gamble your life away.
Then fuck'em, should have kept it shut and stopped trying to feed off the weak.
Consider this, the RIAA says that the high cost of CD's is down to........ Advertising, marketing, payola and 'production'
RIAA = what happened if you get freedom of expression.
Also consider that if I say 'the holocost never happened', or 'buy guns, kill George W Bush' I run the risk of having the thought police bust my door down.
Democracy, making sure you can shit on 49% of the people to butter up the other 51%.
Look at the UK if you don't believe me, Blair will get elected next time round, he's done the sums, he knows the liberals don't have a chance, so he shits on them. ID cards, dead people having rights (if you trying to shag them!), anti campaigner laws etc....
They also know that the snobby Conservative voters are too few, so he shits on them too.
Now he's just left with the 25k-60k income bracket people who just care about going to work and not having to see children on the way home and a few right wingers.
fortunately that's about 55% of the population and he's got them buttered up a treat.
The only possible chance we have of change of government is if some of those 25k-60k earners switch to Conservative and we get a hung election forcing in Proportional representation.
You forgot to mention.
How Saddam came to power, after trying to overthrow the Iraqi covernment he lived in exile for many years, later to lead the iraqi people in the to overthrow the government (put inplace by the UK) and to become leader (a bit like old castro).
He then privatised all the oil and feed the money back into the country, oh and killed a few people kerds complaining)
He then spent a lot of money on himself (like which leader doesn't) everyone else and started to rebuild the wonders of the world.
Not to bad for a rebel milletry leader, well a lot better than the current lot.
Incidently Saddam allegedly killed 400,000 kurds in 10 years, the current death rate estimated as upto 100,000 in 3 years.
Bush also has mass graves to his name, just look out side any Texas prison.
Patent number 123, a method for machine to machine communications over a network.
The first machine opens a socket to the seconds and sends the message hello.
The second machine replies with myprotocol v1.0
End of patent.
The problem is when the patent includes things like handshaking that must be implemented in exactly the way the patent says for them to work.
Isn't outlook just using an OLE control to do that, so can't you just use wine or similar to wrap it up (a bit like /use/lib/win32)
Everyone I know with a disposable income less then 30,000GBP owns something pirated, has pirated something or sells pirated goods.
I don't know that many people with >30kGBP [they tend to go to dinner parties ow something] but a lot of them download from the Internet.
So, on my estimates (the adv income being about 25kGBP) more than half the population on the UK breaks copyright laws.
I'd like to see someone product figures that go against this because I don't believe that they can.
-Who is entitled to change the wording of the GPL.-
Anyone, but it isn't retrospective, you can only agree to what you have agreed so GPL 1 is still GPL 1.
-Could RMS in principle change the license to state that all the software belongs to him?
Yes but so could you, and again it wouldn't be retrospective.
-Who would be entitled to make new versions of the GPL if the leaders of the FSF died tomorrow?
Yes, but is wouldn't be retrospective.
-Where should I look to learn more about this?
Weel it depends where you live, lookup copyright and contract laws for your regions.
Cool, how about DRM next.
(goto wiki and look up digital rights management)
Scroll to the section about copyright.
DRM breaks copyright laws, sometimes you cannot resell and you cannot un-DRM something to place it in the public domain.
DRM, more like DREAM.
We well manage to be ahead of the US to such an extent that no US company can break the market.
And why is this, because we don't have patents.
As for the Kyoto thing above, my carpet isn't as clean as it could be because I don't have a 'Dyson' vacuum cleaner, I have an inefficient power hungry one because I refuse to buy anything that's advertised as 'with 1 million patents and patents pending' and then charges twice as much as everyone else.
Dyson will never get a penny of my money so long as he holds onto those patents.
Here are some of Cliff's songs... that have nothing to do with sex of course.
.... - No. 3 .....
1958 - Move It - No. 1
1959 - Living Doll - No. 1
1960 - Fall In Love With You - No. 2 (I bet you say that to all the girls!)
1960 - Please Don't Tease - No. 1 (Yeh right)
1960 - Nine Times Out of Ten - No. 3
1960 - I Love You - No. 1 (Girl number 6!)
1961 - Gee Whiz It's You - No. 4 (that makes 7)
1961 - A Girl Like You - No. 3
1961 - When The Girl In Your Arms
1962 - Do You Wanna Dance - No. 2
1962 - The Next Time/Bachelor Boy - No. 1 (looks like they dumped him, must have been shit in bed!)
1963 - Lucky Lips - No. 4
1963 - It's All In The Game - No. 2
1963 - Don't Talk To Him -No. 2
1965 - The Minute You're Gone - No. 1
1965 - Wind Me Up(Let Me Go) - No. 2
He's only done 7 songs (I short album) in the last 20 years, no wonder he's feeling the pinch.
Exactly, so is DRM against the law?
I hope someone with good hosting access can put up a fax you mp style lobying group to get this kind of digital rape out sorted out before it becomes 'common law'
the problem is that under the 'current' system you'd have to wait 75 years + life to try it out (well except for Elvis!) The other problem is that god send of legislation the DMCA, it's my data but they've encrypted it. fuck.... think ID cards, biometrics &co, how can you find out what's on the card without violating the DMCA?
I think that whole life+ shit is crap, at most it should be life + 10 years if the material is passed on to 'dependants'.
My daddy's a rock star so I'm going to bum of his work for the rest of my life.
Or more to the point, ah we just lost Mr Timberlake, good employee, don't worry though he'll be keeping us pretty for the next 75 years.
From the emeny
Cliff Richard's worried that his music will be used for a porn sound track (Jesus he's got a perverted mind, not wonder he has to go to church).
From January 1st 2005 any recordings made on or prior to December 31 1954 will no longer be protected by UK copyright law. Record companies, artists and performers whose work falls into the public domain will no longer have the right to earn income from their work.
Is 50 years long enough or should copyright last forever?
I've seen Cliff Richard on TV moaning about this, may be because in a few years time a couple of his tracks will be expiring. Elvis, Rolling Stones and Beatles will be not long after.