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More on the Microsoft v. EU Decision on Software Patents

bollow (a) NoLockIn writes "As pointed out on Groklaw, Microsoft has told the EU's Court of First Instance that "certain of the communications protocols that the Commission requires it to provide are covered by patents or patent applications and that it intends to file, before June 2005, a large number of patent applications." In view of this, Poland's courageous action against software patents is a great relief. There's an online thank-you letter for Poland with already over 10000 signatures."

445 comments

  1. Poland.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess we're sure, now, that Poland will never be forgotten.

    1. Re:Poland.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This must be the all time biggest troll story in /. history. All the repeat posts and garbage. It scrolls down forever! Maaa-han!

    2. Re:Poland.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  2. Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Poland sends a thousand soldiers risking their lives to fight terrorism, and you mock them. They vote against Microsoft, and suddenly they're heroes. Twisted fucking priorities you guys have.

    1. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I dont believe all the BS about terrorism but software patents worry me alot more.

    2. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe we were against the war in iraq, and against software patents, and in one of the cases Poland agreed with us?

      People do have different opinions on things, you know.

      Also, "fighting terrorism"? ...

    3. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you want to compare the computer software industry to politics???

      Microsoft = totalitarian dictatorship not giving anyone any rights only Microsoft has power, absolute and totally corrupted power...

      Opensource/Linux = democracy offering freedom for ANYONE to build a Linux distro and software to sell for market value or give away free (whatever the the author desires)...

      thats about what i see when comparing the software industry to politics analogy...

    4. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your vision of democracy is very naive. You can create a party, but unless you already have power, you will never get elected. Democracy is an illusion. Nothing more.

      And by the way... The current administration has no intention whatsoever to let someone they don't like win the elections.

    5. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberated Iraq = Totalitarian dictatorship not giving anybody any real rights except for the US Government and their puppet government of Iraq, all under the guise of democracy

      But fortunately the Iraqis are fighting heroically for their own country. Only a dead American soldier is a good American soldier! I am happy about every US service man who dies. Go Iraq!

    6. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poland was never part of the initial invasion of Iraq. That is the *joke*.

      Poland... you are not forgotten.

    7. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Saddam Hussein = totalitarian dictatorship not giving anyone any rights only Saddam has power, absolute and totally corrupted power...

      but a reasonable chance of food on the table. Lousy but public health care. Public education. Tyrranical but secular governemnt which allows women to go to school and become professionals. And (bonus) not being blown up on the way to school. In time, with patience and some work perheaps a peaceful, bloodless, transition to less totalitarian form of government ala Eastern Europe.

      Liberated Iraq = democracy offering freedom for ANYONE to build a political party and candidates to sell for market value or give away free (whatever the the party boss desires)...

      You mean "anyone with sufficient cash and corporate support" ala USA. Wholesale theft of Iraq's resources by the Western corporations. Near total destruction of public infrastructure. 60% unemployment. 15% flat tax unable to generate revenues to cover even the most basic necessites of government. Laws dictated and set in stone by the occupiers (new government is not allowed to reverse these). 5-mile long lineups for gas in one of the largest oil producing counties. 100% prospect of either Islamic theocracy or civil war. Loss of rights for most females. Higher chance of getting your ass blown-off or shot-off then getting education. Non-existant medical care. Arrogant foreign army complete with mercenaries, "shoot first, ask questions later" checkpoints, cluster-bombing of cities and even modern rendition of concentration camps, gearing itself to stay in Iraq for foreseeable future (building permanent, hardened bases).

      If I were an Iraqi, the choice would be rather easy: Saddam as bad as he was, was an Iraqi problem and Iraqis would have dealt with him sooner or later, thank you very much, and truth be told the "liberation" will be spelled "conquest" in Arabic for generations of Iraqis to come.

      Also note that the assault on social foundations of Iraq is totally consistent with the philosophies US-led band of Christian-capitalist fundamentalist ideologues. It is part of their agenda and was indended to demonstrate that zero-government inteference, dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest capitalism will produce miracles in the "new" Iraq. And all they had to do it is to kill 100,000 people (after starving to death another 500,000 earlier).

    8. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      You forgot to mention.
      How Saddam came to power, after trying to overthrow the Iraqi covernment he lived in exile for many years, later to lead the iraqi people in the to overthrow the government (put inplace by the UK) and to become leader (a bit like old castro).

      He then privatised all the oil and feed the money back into the country, oh and killed a few people kerds complaining)

      He then spent a lot of money on himself (like which leader doesn't) everyone else and started to rebuild the wonders of the world.

      Not to bad for a rebel milletry leader, well a lot better than the current lot.

      Incidently Saddam allegedly killed 400,000 kurds in 10 years, the current death rate estimated as upto 100,000 in 3 years.

      Bush also has mass graves to his name, just look out side any Texas prison.

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    9. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      You forgot to mention.

      I forgot to mention a lot of things, these were just what I was able to come up with in 5 seconds flat off the top of my head. The complete list is so long that it would probably take a post longer then Slashcode allows.

    10. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Democracy, making sure you can shit on 49% of the people to butter up the other 51%.

      Look at the UK if you don't believe me, Blair will get elected next time round, he's done the sums, he knows the liberals don't have a chance, so he shits on them. ID cards, dead people having rights (if you trying to shag them!), anti campaigner laws etc....

      They also know that the snobby Conservative voters are too few, so he shits on them too.

      Now he's just left with the 25k-60k income bracket people who just care about going to work and not having to see children on the way home and a few right wingers.

      fortunately that's about 55% of the population and he's got them buttered up a treat.

      The only possible chance we have of change of government is if some of those 25k-60k earners switch to Conservative and we get a hung election forcing in Proportional representation.

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    11. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      any thoughts on converting the religious back to normality, I've tried lots of things from science to asking them to explain themself's until they got stuck in an illogical loop.

      The creationists think that IVF proves that Mary was a virgin and that the lamentations(don't eat shell fish on a Monday and that kind of stuff) prove that God told them about bacteria.

      I think there's all mad, well the monotheistic ones anyway, It's the whole good and evil thing they've got stuck in their head.
      Would Bush have come up with the Axis of evil if he supported the accent Greek gods?

      Anyhow, if you ever bring any of them back into the fold of reality (without anti-psycotics) let me know.... I've got a bag of magic mushrooms and I'm thinking of donating them to the local church!.

    12. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      any thoughts on converting the religious back to normality, I've tried lots of things from science to asking them to explain themself's until they got stuck in an illogical loop.

      Since it is important, I will follow you this far off-topic.

      I personally believe that religions are like computer and real-life viruses. Their only preorogative is to use their hosts to spread. The wellbeing of the host is not important to religion, the propagation of the desease is. Real-life viruses use various propagation mechanisms but the most similar would be an e-mail bourne computer virus that promises something a victim might want in order to get him/her to activate the payload. Similarily, religions offer to fullfil basic needs of sentient beings which are hard to satisfy otheriwse (explanations of their origin, universal "truths" about universe, simple rules to follow in daily life to achieve immortality, simple and reassuring explanations of exceedingly complex things etc etc) and as soon as the victim takes the bait, his/her mind is devoured and digested by the virus and quickly turned to its true purpose: further propagation. Loss of objectivity and acquisition of feverent zeal are just some of the effects of this destruction which are beneficial to the virus in its quest to spread.

      Some clever charlatans, seeing this power, made minor modifications to the virus code in order to use it for their own ends. Enter organised, institutional religion and all the fun that follows, Inqusitions, Crusades, Witch-hunts, Jihads and reclamations and ethnic-clensing of "God-given" lands being just the tip of the iceberg.

      How to cure this? Well, its tough. A mind once corrupted in-depth is damaged beyond repair I am afraid. It loses ability to function on its own, the virus having replaced critical thought functions. Your guess is as good as mine here but putting the victim into a logical-loop is not going to solve the problem, logic and reason being the first victims in the desease's progression. They will just "rationalize" it away somehow and move on merilly with the parasite clinging to their brain.

      P.S. I normally do not answer ACs because Slashdot does not email me when they post replies.

    13. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I still hope to find a cure one day, even if that cure is preventing anyone else from getting infected.

      Evey person who steps of the fence away from the 'control' of religion is a person saved.

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    14. Re:Don't forget Poland by number11 · · Score: 1

      Saddam Hussein = totalitarian dictatorship not giving anyone any rights only Saddam has power, absolute and totally corrupted power...

      True. And Saudi Arabia = totalitarian dictatorship (an "absolute monarchy") without giving anyone any rights (especially women), only the royal family has power, absolute and totally corrupted power... And Burma (only there, it's a military dictatorship), and North Korea (only there, unlike Saddam, they maybe have weapons of mass destruction, and in any case have the ability to flatten Seoul with conventional artillery), and Belarus (a country best known for shooting down and killing the pilots of an off-course hot-air balloon), and any other of a dozen or so countries. What was your point exactly? That the USA should immediately invade all of them?

    15. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Thanks, I still hope to find a cure one day, even if that cure is preventing anyone else from getting infected.

      I wish you good luck but this is indeed a tall order to fill. As you certainly know, religions are very successful and virulent deseases. I think the major enabling problem is that our evolution is a random process focused on making our species more "succesful" in spreading (the same brain-dead objective the evolutionary process of the virus has) and is not influenced adversly by propagation of religion. Thus no "natural" defenses exist. As long as the religion is not interfering too badly with reproductive cycle, the evolutionary process does not get involved.

      So in order to immunize people against religion, you would have to find a mechanism that allows for raltional, science based world view to be somehow emotionally and psychologially sufficient for everyone. Unfortunately, people who are capable of supporting that position without a failure when faced with traumatic experiences are far and few between. Again, it is my personal speculation that further evolution of human consciousness might not be driven by a darwinian process but by our decisions to augment our minds by either biological or mechanical means. This would introduce new capabilities and perheaps eliviate the failure modes that allow religion and other assorted deseases to consume our minds.

    16. Re:Don't forget Poland by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      I don't think abolishing religion is the way to go. Religion seems to be a simple case of hit or miss. If you apply religion wrong, then it leads to problems. Some religions are quite specific, find one with specifics that match what you believe in. Doing away with religion will only make other problems.

    17. Re:Don't forget Poland by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      You're generalizing religion, I think you only mean Christianity. Not all religions say faith conflicts with reason, you know. If you find that there's a mismatch I think that's a divine sign that you should cross that religion out as it fails the reality test.

    18. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How to cure this? Well, its tough. A mind once corrupted in-depth is damaged beyond repair I am afraid. It loses ability to function on its own, the virus having replaced critical thought functions.

      I agree with everything else you wrote, but this part is a load of baloney. Ever heard of people losing their fate? I've even read about priests (the hubs of infection) losing their fate.

      I my self have loosed the tiny bits of fate I received from my parents who still believe in god. I reasoned my self out of that, although I had the "virus" as a child. First it was quite depressing to realize that life has no other meaning than what you decide, and the only thing left of us when we die is our dead bodies and the things we did when we were alive. Nowadays I'm very anti-religion, and I've made it clear to my parents, who luckily aren't fanatical christians.

    19. Re:Don't forget Poland by burns210 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We never mocked them.

      (Some) Americans mocked Bush, not Poland, for calling the group he had formed a 'strong' coalition. When it was anything but. 1,000 brave Polish men and woman are in Iraq. 120,000 brave American men and woman are in Iraq.

      Some of us, while deeply respecting the sacrifices both nation's soldiers have made, do not call that a 'coalition. Alteast, not anywhere(anywhere!) near the same level the first gulf war had. THAT was a coalition.

    20. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Not all religions say faith conflicts with reason, you know

      If a religion is not attempting to "explain" things dear to people's hearts in a way that must conflict with, or evade empirical evidence and then does not proceed to dictate "laws" for converts to obey, it probably does not fit the bill for being a religion. I am however willing to be enlightened. Please elaborate.

    21. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      Put it this way, if your religion is based on 'good' and 'evil' then everything must be either good or evil.

      Your religion must be good, well, because it's yours, anything that disagrees must be.. well.. bad and so should be stopped.

      If on the other hand you don't have a religion or your religion isn't based on good and evil then you can have many shades of grey, someone else could be more right etc...

      This isn't to say all problems would be solved, but a lot of the problems we have wouldn't be so great.

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    22. Re:Don't forget Poland by BBird · · Score: 1

      Bravo! Too bad the mainstream thought is still so much b-s and you re-elected the fraudster&killer.

    23. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Ever heard of people losing their fate?

      That I am afraid depends on the depth of the conviction. If the religion has only superfluous influence (people tend to self-delude themselves into fancying themselves pious to soothe their minds) it is probably possible to break its hold. I am willing to conceed you this point: human minds are exceedingly complicated and the full effects of religion on them are, I am sure, very complex. Having said this however, I am afraid that significant majority of the infected is capable of doing what I described, i.e. coming to depend on the religion to do all their "thinking" for them.

    24. Re:Don't forget Poland by Dehumanizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Iraq has nothing to do with "terrorism". "Terrorism" is just Bush's excuse to do whatever he wants, wherever he wants. "If you don't agree with us, you're supporting terrorism."

      What's worse is that many people fall for it.

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    25. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read Little Green Footballs and find out the depth to which people have fallen (for it).

    26. Re:Don't forget Poland by twiddlingbits · · Score: 0, Troll

      OhmyGawd, that crap rates a 5 as Insightful? It's a pack of lies. Probably written by someone who had some deal going under the table with Saddam. There are some many errors its hard to define them all. "health care"? Yea, if you were a party member, "education"- indoctination since Saddam was the only person ever allowed to be discussed. Rebuild the ancient wonders? LOL..he built himself dozens of palaces. "Peaceful, bloodless transition"..so damn funny...tell me ANY dictatorship that has been overthrown without any blood being shed. "theft of Iraq resources"..Bullshit. Iraq owns it's oil and sells it to whomever pulls up to the terminal at Basra. The US companies aren't doing anything except possibly infrastructure work to IMPROVE the flow of oil. I also see you forgot to mention the EU nations eagerly sucking up the black market oil during the "oil for food" days.
      Things in Iraq are certainly not rosy, but the are going to have elections, women can vote, kids can learn about the rest of world in school, and money from oil is staying in Iraq. 90% of the problems are being caused by EXTERNAL NON-IRAQI Muslim fundamentalists who want a theocracy. The everyday Iraqis don't. And the US being a "Christian" country has not a thing to do with Iraq. In fact Iraq itself has a large number of Chrisatians that were there BEFORE the "invasion". Capitalism was allowed under Saddam, he just got his cut. This is not the typical liberal anti-Bush diatribe, it's the rambling nonsense of an outright idiot.

      Go ahead, Mod me -1 Flamebait, I have Karma to spare.

    27. Re:Don't forget Poland by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's much worse than that.

      All you need is to win by 1 vote in more seats than your opponents. You could in theory win an election with a very small percentage of the vote. Labour are likely to get a healthy parliamentary majority with less than 40% of the vote.

      Parties like UKIP are a concern for the tories. In effect, the tories could lose a seat because their vote gets split two ways. So, even though the majority don't want a party, they get in.

      It's why first-past-the-post is a terrible system, and for all it's faults, PR is better.

      I believe that the next election will spark a massive public debate about this, because the number of fringe parties (eg UKIP, Greens, socialists, BNP) will start making a difference.

      If people really want to make a difference, help to fund a fringe candidate who works in the same sphere as your opponent and help to split the vote.

      Also, you don't even have to butter up the other 51%. They only have to be fractionally in preference to you than the rest. Personally, I can't really stand any of the parties. Show me a libertarian party, and I'll vote for them.

    28. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Probably written by someone who had some deal going under the table with Saddam.

      Yes! Me and old Uncle Saddam. We had this deal going where I supplied chicken entrails and he sent me diamonds. Oh why did it have to end? Oh the humanity!

      "health care"? Yea, if you were a party member

      Really? Nooo!

      "education"- indoctination since Saddam was the only person ever allowed to be discussed

      Right

      tell me ANY dictatorship that has been overthrown without any blood being shed

      Sure: Poland, Chechoslovakia, Hungary, East Germany, etc etc.

      "theft of Iraq resources"..Bullshit. Iraq owns it's oil and sells it to whomever pulls up to the terminal at Basra.

      All Iraqi industries (with exception of oil) were privatized by the order of Vice Roy Bremmer just before his departure. Furthermore, he set rules in place that: allow 100% foreign ownership of all Iraqi companies, allow 100% of profits to be taken out of the country and even though oil fields were exluded, the oil terminals and processing wasnt, a consortium of CHEVRON and Betchel and several other foreign companies operates these. All of Bremer's rules are set in stone and the new "sovereign" government will not be allowed to change them (including the 15% flat income tax)

      90% of the problems are being caused by EXTERNAL NON-IRAQI Muslim fundamentalists who want a theocracy.

      I was treating you semi-seriously up to this point but this is clearly a waste of time. Lay off FOX "news" and Rush Limbaugh. Of all the "insurgents" captured in Iraq less then 2% are foreigners and thats according to US Army's own data.

      As to the Crusade...

    29. Re:Don't forget Poland by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      I can tell you from personal references that have BEEN In Iraq that what you read in the popular Press is WRONG. The press is reporting ANY bad news that they can. Iraqi's were in bad shape, the WAS no health care Saddam was siphoning all the money away. As far as foreign ownership of oil, that's total BS, Iraq's own president has said as much. I see the typical liberal trick of only reporting PART of the news..here is the FULL context from http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/article.print?id=2623.. ."The new policy also allows for 100 percent foreign ownership of all industries except for oil, which will remain under government control for the time being"., Notice the policy says ALLOW, not WILL. Iraqi's can buy Iraqi companies, and many ex-pat Iraqis are working on doing just that.

    30. Re:Don't forget Poland by Elektroschock · · Score: 1

      Sorry, this is off-topic.

      Poland's intervention against Software patents is courageous while Poland's support of the US invasion was just prostitution. The supporters of the US objected the war in Iraq and tried to slow down the misguided US machine. Those nations were the friends of the US and they were willing to pay a price for their honesty.

      I regard soldiers as an instrument of policy, the guys who have to do the dirty job. A braveness and respect cult just creates the wrong image of their work. Who cares whether a soldier is brave or not, they have to do their job and they do it, not because they want it but because they are ordered so. In communism they had "heros of work", in the US a new kind of hero cult seems to take place. But that's bad propaganda for uneducated people.

    31. Re:Don't forget Poland by TheGavster · · Score: 1

      That was *supposed* to be a satirical adaptation of the parent ... see, the juxtaposition of an absolute dictator and a party boss ... the government sold to the highest corporate bidder ...

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    32. Re:Don't forget Poland by 10am-bedtime · · Score: 1

      there is no cure for the human condition. people are all sick, even those "unafflicted" w/ religion. from the moment of your birth, you begin to die, it's just that some are more graceful, charming or entertaining in their death throes than others. that some would cling to their private aesthetic w/o acknowledging pov of others, of insentient machines (and other missives from reality), of even themselves from repeated experience, is a constantly renewing phenomenon.

      let us hope the machines (both of flesh and of silicon) we teach today will deign to let this human nature survive.

    33. Re:Don't forget Poland by jvkjvk · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should get out more. Memes, which are exactly the word I would want to use instead of this 'virus' stuff are possibly just as dificult to deal with as real viruses but that doens't mean they are impossible to combat.

      As you said, clever people have utilized memes for their own ends.

      So, too, can you. Think of retroviruses. We utilize them now, to combat bodily illnesses. You can utilize a meme as an intellectual retrovirus.

      When you say that a mind is 'damaged beyond repair' through the action of memes, you are wrong. Unless you are writing of physical damage, the mind has an incredibly plastic ability to adapt.

      Perhaps the frontal assault of a logic error will not force the meme to mutate, but that doesn't mean that they don't, or can't.

      P.S. All thoughts are parasites.

      yr. obt. svt,
      jvk

    34. Re:Don't forget Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you familiar with the Unitarians? Do you belive that buddhism is a religion or a philosophy?

    35. Re:Don't forget Poland by UpnAtom · · Score: 1

      You make some good points but you also make some stupid ones.

      The Iraqis had 4 decades to deal with Saddam. Even after his army was "destroyed" in the Gulf War, they didn't stand a chance.

      Even if their land is a warzone, Iraqis are now free. Before you & your family might be publicly executed if you said the wrong thing.

      Yes, it's still a mess and if the guerillas don't chill after the elections and/or the withdrawal of Israel from the West Bank, it's going to be years before it's safe.

      However, long term peace in the Middle East will make even that carnage worthwhile.

    36. Re:Don't forget Poland by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Bush also has mass graves to his name, just look out side any Texas prison."

      That's a little mis-informed. The laws and courts in TX sentence people to death. It is up to the state. It happened before Bush was gov. there....and has not stopped with his departure. To lay blame on him for allowing the laws of the state to be carried out....well, that's not quite fair is it? He didn't kill anyone at all....just was gov. of a state that did.

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    37. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Sigh.

      The Iraqis had 4 decades to deal with Saddam.

      Easter Europe had 5 to "deal" with their tyrants. Your point?

      Even if their land is a warzone, Iraqis are now free.

      If you define "freedom" as "free to get blown into bits" I agree. I am sick and tired of right-wingnuts blabber about "freedom". Naked and hungry on a 2-foot square rock in the middle of Atlantic you are also "free" from political opression. Would you expect a Chinese political dissident to take that option to become "free"? Freedom by itself is worthless, it is the entrie framework of free scociety that makes it worthwile and thats what the USA idologue-nuts destroyed while installing their brand of "freedom".

      Before you & your family might be publicly executed if you said the wrong thing.

      You must be kidding. Seriously. I mean the Al-Qeida nuts will not slit your throat if you do not grow a beard or are a woman on the street not in a burka, right? How about Baathist guerillas when you say the "wrong thing": "I work for Halliburton"?

      if the guerillas don't chill after the elections and/or the withdrawal of Israel from the West Bank, it's going to be years before it's safe.

      Again, reality dysfunction here: the "elections" will not chill anything even if "successful" (provide your definition of succes here because they are all equally laughable). In the most rosy, pie-in-the-sky scenario, the elections result in Shia-controlled constitutional comission (you do realise that the elections are to elect the commission not the real government which is to be elected in the next elections sonewhere in 2006? 7? 8?..., no?). Following which Sunni rebellion (who at that point will really have nothing to lose) will get massively worse and will require wholesale pacification of places like Baghdad via the Falluja method of cluster bombing. In the ruins of what remains of Iraq, a theocratic Shia government will craft its Sharia-law based constitution. And there are many worse scenarios possible, invovling combined Sunni/Shia revolts.

      However, long term peace in the Middle East will make even that carnage worthwhile.

      This is how brainless empires a born. You statement here says it all: "I the stupendous, infallable, all-wise UpnAtom will bring to the barbarians the light of my religion and bring them into its fold by the might of His word or the steel of my sword if they refuse!". The religion being: market libertarianism, Christianity, USA-rendition of "democracy", take your pick. You just declared yourself fit to decide that 600,000 people dead and many more crippled and maimed are "advancing" your cause and not only that, a direct and personally perpetrated carnage on their lands is "justified" because it will "make peace in the long term".

      I believe it was said about the Romans : "They create desolation and call it peace". Yea, Pax Romana... ugh wait Pax Americana... Who would have thought, they are baaaaack! Under a new managment! New and improved! More hubris! More carnage!

      Welcome to the Imperial Club, the slaves will take you coat on the left, would you like a Bloody Mary while you wait? Its made with real blood you know! *wink*

    38. Re:Don't forget Poland by Eccles · · Score: 1

      As far as foreign ownership of oil, that's total BS, Iraq's own president has said as much.

      That would be the president democratically elected by the Iraqi people? Oh wait, they haven't had any elections, yet. That would be the person the U.S. put in charge temporarily, so take what he says with that proverbial grain of salt.

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    39. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      I can tell you from personal references that have BEEN In Iraq that what you read in the popular Press is WRONG

      How about the people actually living in Iraq?

      the WAS no health care

      false, although at the end of 10 year sanction cycle little remained.

      Saddam was siphoning all the money away

      False, he was siphoning some of the money away. Evil tyrant as he was, he considered himself an avenging Arab hero and was a patriot (notice that he didnt run away to a safe country like virtually any other 2-bit dictator in history?). His deluded ideas on how to go about making Iraq better are another discussion.

      As far as foreign ownership of oil, that's total BS, Iraq's own president has said as much.

      What? What? The who said that? Oh you mean the US-installed ex-CIA henchman whose speeches are written by White House staffers? Right.

      Notice the policy says ALLOW, not WILL. Iraqi's can buy Iraqi companies, and many ex-pat Iraqis are working on doing just that.

      This is a downward spiral of complete nuttiness. Yes in theory Iraqis can own Iraqi companies but when it comes to a bidding proces between Ahmed the Fallafel-Stand-Man and an ex-patriot Texaco front-man I do truly wonder which one will win. No other country had these sort of rules implemented ever. All require significant portion of local ownership and all require that a major share of profits is reinvested locally. Bremer's rules are the apex of neo-con insanity and make Iraq an exception in the history of the planet as well as the very reason we are there in the first place: to perform an experiment in unrestricted capitalism. All that other hogwash about "freedom" is just that. Too bad children had to lose their limbs over it.

    40. Re:Don't forget Poland by UpnAtom · · Score: 1
      The Iraqis had 4 decades to deal with Saddam.

      Easter Europe had 5 to "deal" with their tyrants. Your point?

      Eastern Europe was controlled by the Soviet Union. The US went to war with them as well.

      Even if their land is a warzone, Iraqis are now free.

      If you define "freedom" as "free to get blown into bits" I agree. I am sick and tired of right-wingnuts blabber about "freedom". Naked and hungry on a 2-foot square rock in the middle of Atlantic you are also "free" from political opression. Would you expect a Chinese political dissident to take that option to become "free"? Freedom by itself is worthless, it is the entrie framework of free scociety that makes it worthwile and thats what the USA idologue-nuts destroyed while installing their brand of "freedom".

      It is funny how I get called left-wing one day and right-wing the next. I am sorry that your government has tainted the concept of freedom for you. For me, being free to make my own decisions and influence those who have power over me is fundamental to my existence.

      Before you & your family might be publicly executed if you said the wrong thing.

      You must be kidding. Seriously. I mean the Al-Qeida nuts will not slit your throat if you do not grow a beard or are a woman on the street not in a burka, right? How about Baathist guerillas when you say the "wrong thing": "I work for Halliburton"?

      Al-Qaeda is nothing but a call to arms. These guerillas aren't the Taliban. They're a violent underclass that every country suppresses (or builds an army out of).

      if the guerillas don't chill after the elections and/or the withdrawal of Israel from the West Bank, it's going to be years before it's safe.

      Again, reality dysfunction here: the "elections" will not chill anything even if "successful" (provide your definition of succes here because they are all equally laughable). In the most rosy, pie-in-the-sky scenario, the elections result in Shia-controlled constitutional comission (you do realise that the elections are to elect the commission not the real government which is to be elected in the next elections sonewhere in 2006? 7? 8?..., no?). Following which Sunni rebellion (who at that point will really have nothing to lose) will get massively worse and will require wholesale pacification of places like Baghdad via the Falluja method of cluster bombing. In the ruins of what remains of Iraq, a theocratic Shia government will craft its Sharia-law based constitution. And there are many worse scenarios possible, invovling combined Sunni/Shia revolts.

      Maybe you're right. I don't think anyone knows for sure.

      However, long term peace in the Middle East will make even that carnage worthwhile.

      This is how brainless empires a born. You statement here says it all: "I the stupendous, infallable, all-wise UpnAtom will bring to the barbarians the light of my religion and bring them into its fold by the might of His word or the steel of my sword if they refuse!".

      My statement is clear (it's the one in bold). Deal with it, not some pathetic argument that you made up. Have some respect for yourself and your audience.

      The religion being: market libertarianism, Christianity, USA-rendition of "democracy", take your pick. You just declared yourself fit to decide that 600,000 people dead

      Where did you get that 600,000 figure from?

      and many more crippled and maimed are "advancing" your cause

      If you really need to deceive people as to what I said, then maybe your point isn't worth making.

      and not only that, a direct and personally perpetrated carnage on their lands is "justified" because it will "make peace in the long term".

      This is your issue, not mine. I am not Geor

    41. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      The US went to war with them as well.

      Curious, I must have missed that, could you enlighten me what was the last date when US pacified Warsaw or cluster bombed Moscow? The best I can come up with is 3 million dead in Vietnam and some few more in Laos and Cambodia. My history book must be missing a few chapters.

      Al-Qaeda is nothing but a call to arms. These guerillas aren't the Taliban. They're a violent underclass that every country suppresses (or builds an army out of).

      I countered your point that in the "old regime" people were killed for their oppinion with a clear cut example of even worse oppressive activity occuring at the present time. To which it seems you replied with a line about how Al-Qeida is a manifesto rather then an organisation (I think a few people in a few intelligence agencies would disagree) and something about them not being Taliban, relevance of which is non-existant to the Iraq situation. This is not even a misdirection. Just incoherent rambling.

      I am sorry that your government has tainted the concept of freedom for you. For me, being free to make my own decisions and influence those who have power over me is fundamental to my existence.

      No, you simply have no idea what freedom means, never heard of negative freedom and are just a spoiled brat who figures that if he gets to go shopping, dream of becoming a CEO and post on Slashdot he is free. Your chances of being able to "influence those with power over you" is slim to none unless you are a long-time inner-circle operative of the ruling classes or come to the table with significant cash.

      However, long term peace in the Middle East will make even that carnage worthwhile. My statement is clear (it's the one in bold). Deal with it, not some pathetic argument that you made up. Have some respect for yourself and your audience.

      Since it escaped you, let me spell it out for you: Wrong, it does not "make it worthwile" and on top of it, even if it did, which it does not, it is not for you to decide who gets to die so that your delusion can be fulfilled.

      Where did you get that 600,000 figure from?

      The NGOs running in Iraq during the 10 year sanctions estimated 500,000 dead from shortages of food and medicine due to the sanctions. The Lancet medical journal in Britain run a study which gave a number of 100,000 deaths attributed to the war and subsequent occupation. The number of wounded and maimed is of course much higher.

      Unfortunately, hundreds of thousands were probably going to die anyway

      Only if neocons persisted.

      I despise the Neocons as much as you, but I can also distinguish between them and people who disagree with me.

      Unfortunately since your position on this is indistinguishable from that of the Necoons, the distinction between them and you is nil.

    42. Re:Don't forget Poland by UpnAtom · · Score: 1

      I despise the Neocons as much as you, but I can also distinguish between them and people who disagree with me.

      Unfortunately since your position on this is indistinguishable from that of the Necoons, the distinction between them and you is nil.

      Since you just proved my point, and destroyed your credibility in the process, I guess we'll leave it there.

    43. Re:Don't forget Poland by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      Not every religion thinks in terms of absolute good and evil. The Pope didn't declare Judaism or Islam evil, and Islam considers Christianity and Judaism to be deviations, but still contain some truths in each. Buddhists or Taoists aren't out to abolish other religions or philosophies.

      Your arguement against classifying good and evil falls into a bigger arguement. Can good and evil be absolute and can we classify them? Socrates was working on this for a long time. Muslims rank everything on a scale from good deeds to bad, but none of them claim to have the perfected formula, only God knows. I forget which philosopher it was who decided that absolute right and wrong did exist, but humans would never be able to nail it. I've seen many followers of different religions who agree with that.

    44. Re:Don't forget Poland by mr100percent · · Score: 1

      There are religions and philosophies that rely on empiricism and human reasoning. The Tao tells its followers how to go about treating one another, and how to seek wisdom, not what clear-cut right and wrong is.

      While Jerry Falwell may see dinosaur fossils as God putting them there to "test my faith," Muslims see no contradiction between the current scientific evidence for evolution and the Qur'an. The Qur'an quotes God as saying "You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them." (The Quran, 17:36) This is just one example.

    45. Re:Don't forget Poland by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
      It's why first-past-the-post is a terrible system, and for all it's faults, PR is better.
      Humbug. If PR is a cure for the FPTP system, then decapitation is a cure for toothache.
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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    46. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      "If you religion is based on 'good' and 'evil'"

      Which part of this says that I only believe religions are based on good and evil?

      Good= Something God would like me to do.
      Evil= Everything else (or something of the devil).

      So, yes the pope can say that some things in another religion are 'good' because they are things that are Godly, he can also say that things are 'evil' because they are of the Devil.

      'Buddhists or Taoists', well I would argue that they probably believe all 'religions' are equal. Even though Buddhism isn't a religion because Buddhists don't worship God.

      As for Socrates he's not the pope, or Mohamed, or Christ, or Abraham or whoever, religion isn't based on logic.

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    47. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      Lots of things happened before Bush, if he openly support the killing of native Indians I'd say that he supported all the killings that have happened before hand.

      SFAIK Bush openly support the death penalty so I say anyone killed due to the death penalty under his jurisdiction was killed by bush by proxy.

      Just like Bush is still killing Iraqis by paying the Army and 'telling them' to kill Iraqis, he doesn't have to go over there and rip them apart with his bare hands.

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    48. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      PR is to FPTP
      like
      stopping eating so many sweets, getting a bit so you don't grind you teeth, brushing twice daily, and visiting the dentists is to just popping down the dentists and getting a filing.

      brushing you teeth isn't a cure any more than a filling is.

      But brushing your teeth and getting a filling is a lot better then having to select one activity.

      the problem I have with PR is that the representatives are stacked by the parties.

      So,
      Tony is first out the hat.
      Then all the people that agree with tony.
      Then his best friend at school.
      Then ....
      Then some random people who have been with the party for a few years and could possibly fit into government.

      PR can make the system worse by reducing the Mix of representatives up for grabs.

      The truth is that most MP's are put into 'safe' seats effectively being hand picked by the party.

      Personally I like the house of Lords because they don't have to worry about short term goals and frequently reject knee-jerk policies put through by whatever government is in power.

      --
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    49. Re:Don't forget Poland by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      ' Show me a libertarian party'

      The greens aren't too bad, if you can put up with the terribly middle class names they all have.

      The Liberals are better than most and at least there not totalitarian like the Conservitaves and 'new' Labour.

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    50. Re:Don't forget Poland by dossen · · Score: 1

      The one thing lacking in slashdot, compared to good mail/news readers, is thread/user killfiles. I would love to be able to kill offtopic threads, or eliminate posts by specific users (I know friends/foes can do this, but it is not what it is for). I want three buttons on each posting (when logged in): Kill thread (making it disappear from my worldview forever), kill user (never see another posts by this user), and semi-kill user (never show posts by user, unless they have highly rated followups).

      Note: I'm not picking on you in particular, your posting is just the start of a massive, off-topic, thread, which I would rather have been without. You can speak your mind all you want, but I'm just bitching about the fact that I have no easy way to stop listening.

    51. Re:Don't forget Poland by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1
      I disagree.

      OK, maybe it gives you a few rebels in a party, but it's better to have a larger number of parties, even if it means control is at the centre.

      Tony Blair can give as many jobs as he likes to his university chums, but they'll still only have 39% of the seats at the next election, which means creating alliances with other parties. Instead, he's going to get a sizable majority.

      Those rebels do nothing anyway. They've barely made a difference to the direction of the Labour government.

    52. Re:Don't forget Poland by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1
      The problem is, none of those are.

      The greens and LDs may be more liberal in terms of personal freedom, but aren't very keen on economic freedom.

    53. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Since you just proved my point

      This probably does not warrant a reply but here it goes: it is what one does and not what one says about himself that counts. If you are calling yourself an anti-neo-con and then promote the very ideas you claim to disagree with, that action and not the label you claim for yourself is what counts. Similarly, you can call yourself an enviromentalist and then drive a V8 Suburban from your luxurious villa for which you landscaped 50 hectares of a forest, the latter speaking far louder then the former.

    54. Re:Don't forget Poland by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      The Tao tells its followers how to go about treating one another , and how to seek wisdom, not what clear-cut right and wrong is.

      The emphasis mine. So in effect Tao dictates rules of conduct which by necessity affect the non-believers.

      The Qur'an quotes God as saying "You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.

      Unfortunately, the very idea of a God is contradictory with that statement. Unless you are in a possession of a reliable, repeatable experiment which I can perform to validate existence of a God such as Qur'an claims to exist, this very statement contradicts the entire religion to begin with.

      I am afraid that all religions are intriniscally suffering from the same problem because at their very core is a set of wild, unproveable assumptions, frequently backed with chickanery and outright insanity, and from these assumptions flow rules and regulations applicable to our real life pursuits, almost inevietably resulting in adverse effects on non-believers and always resulting in some effects on them.

  3. Self-respect. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Microsoft has told the EU's Court of First Instance that "certain of the communications protocols that the Commission requires it to provide are covered by patents or patent applications and that it intends to file, before June 2005, a large number of patent applications."

    That's OK, because no OSSer is going to be caught dead using a Microsoft protocol.

  4. No reason to force them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a good idea. It happened with IE and should happen with any other Windows endorsed products. There is no reason to ship them pre-installed. The argument that GNAA/Linux do that is false because XMMS and The Gimp are seperate entities from the distribtuion. di

  5. Slashdotted.. article text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Please tell us about the general status of DragonFly BSD.

    Matthew Dillon: The project has been going very well. We've primarily been focused on the 'guts' of the system during this initial period, and you can get a fair idea of the work that has been accomplished so far by looking at the Diary page on our site.

    Most of the work so far has been to operating systems internals. The work has been a combination of new work, like our light weight kernel threading core, plus selective backports from FreeBSD-5 to keep the system's device drivers up to date (e.g. such as the USB subsystem).

    From a userland perspective we have maintained a FreeBSD style environment, so DragonFly basically runs everything that FreeBSD-4.x can run. The packaging system probably won't be done until the second release so we are at the moment leveraging off of FreeBSD's ports system for user apps. Everything you'd expect of a BSD system (X, mozilla, etc) is available to DragonFly users.

    The first release is slated for some time in mid-June, hopefully before the USENIX Technical Conference. That will be the 1.0 release. We've been fairly careful to maintain as high a level of reliability as possible during development and I think we've done a pretty good job meeting that goal. The first release is intended to be more of a technology showpiece then an integrated end-user platform.

    2. Are you using any bits and pieces from FreeBSD-5, or you only strictly importing/exporting to FreeBSD-4 codebase?

    Matthew Dillon: DragonFly began as a fork off of FreeBSD-4, because that was the most reliable starting point and because we wanted to do major core pieces of the system quite differently from the direction FreeBSD-5 took. For example, we are focused on more of a compartmentalized threading model to scale to SMP rather then the mutex model that FreeBSD-5 has chosen to use. But the FreeBSD-4 codebase is of strictly limited utility as a source of new code and maintainance updates. FreeBSD developers are doing nearly all new coding in the FreeBSD-5 branch.

    So, basically, we are doing the major core pieces of the OS differently, such as our significantly evolved threading and messaging subsystems, but we are also maintaining a FreeBSD-5 compatible (or mostly compatible) device driver API in order to be able to bring in all the excellent device driver work that has gone into FreeBSD-5. It's simple logic, really... we don't have the manpower to be able to accomplish both our infrastructure goals *AND* be able to maintain pace with new PC hardware at the same time. This methodology allows us to proceed on both fronts by focusing our own new work on the infrastructure and bringing in FreeBSD-5's device driver work. This isn't to say that we don't do some of our own DD work, but the vast majority of it is take from FreeBSD-5 by design.

    3. What is the primary goal of dragonfly, servers or desktops?

    Matthew Dillon: Both. When it comes right down to it the idea of targeting a system to the 'server' is simply another word for 'reliability and scaleability', and the idea of targeting a system to the 'desktop' is simply another word for 'out of the box GUI'. It's not really an either-or deal. All UNIX systems, including GNAA/Linux, the BSD's, DragonFly... basically use the same desktop components so supporting a desktop environment comes down to being able to provide integrated solutions that work out of the box.

    It is extraordinarily difficult to make GUIs work out of the box on PCs due to the wide variability in hardware and peripherals, but at the same time technology has continued to progress over the years towards standards that actually make this easier to accomplish. At some point the standards going in one direction will meet the software going in the other and systems such as GNAA/Linux and the BSDs (including DragonFly) will be able to approach the out-of-the-box compatibility that took Microsoft billions of dollars of development to ac

  6. Dammit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think that's bad? Try working at an isp and have people yelling at you and blaming you for breaking hotmail ;).

    ahh the joys of the internet. bx

    1. Re:Dammit by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

      > You think that's bad? Try working at an isp and have people yelling at you and blaming you for
      > breaking hotmail ;).
      >
      > ahh the joys of the internet. bx

      You too, huh? I even get the odd like "Why did the Internet screw up Word?" or my ever favorite "The Internet caused my printer to stop working, so when can you fix it?"

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  7. Ceren Schmeren by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's Cinder [suicidegirls.com] gpl

  8. Don't use KDE do you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've used kde since the 1.0 days, upgrading all along on my dual ppro-200. Even in the slowest 2.0 days, it ran fast enough on my system. Sure I turned the eye-candy slider way down when I configured KDE the first time, but that is all. It works, and is fast enough.

    The only time I have problems is when I hear the harddrive grinding away, swapping. Even then I'm running something heavy duty in addition to KDE, something that can take up most of my memory alone. vw

  9. Reg-Free Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Registration free link [nytimes.com]

    I wish article authors would at least put up some effort to find and use reg-free links when possible. xyp

  10. Anyone know of any honest review sites? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this sort of thing is common, can anyone recommend any review sites that they trust?

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  11. Cars, DVDs, what's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But its a bit more complex that just that.

    From the article;
    >Automakers are fighting the legislation; they believe the real goal is to obtain proprietary "calibration codes" that are the blueprints for how parts are made. With that information, Territo said, independent mechanics and parts manufacturers could duplicate major components such as fuel injectors that automakers have spent millions of dollars developing.

    So maybe its the same issue. A group wants to control their property by using technology which locks things up. wwq

  12. Software Assurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My question is where does this leave people who bought the 3 year Software Assurance packages from MS. They have already paid for this update, but it will not be available for them until their contract is up. This will also happen to those who have also paid for updates to Windows and Visual Studio. Do they get an extention to their contract to include these products that they have paid for, or are they just screwed? lt

  13. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft didn't forgot Poland!

  14. To mod or to post. Spam is the question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You *WILL* get spam my friend. I've been doing this for almost 20 years (admin) now -- and have specifically used aliased accounts for various reasons over the years as you are doing.

    Wait... You'll be interested to know that the biggest problem with the spam coming in comes from virus infected Windows boxes. They send it. They harvest the users Outlook address book. If you ever end up in somebody's Outlook box ... it only a matter of time before you're screwed.

    I chuckle at the whole Exchange thing. You pay for that?

    I personally pay to have a fixed IP @ home and run a old GNAA/Linux box. A lot of aliases I've used over the years (and some blatantly used to harvest) all go to some local account that processes the spam. Upon receipt -- mail the wrong account and sorry, but you're blocked (unless white-listed). White-listing can come from valid already received email -- but I work everything based off of IP. My hope is that the registered MX host(s) or any valid listed server by the authenticating DNS server will be the type of scheme that's re-implemented (or more to the point SHOE-horned in real soon :). Bill's idea of email stamps, well, hahahahaha...

    Over the last decade I've now got 380 aliased harvesting spam address' in use -- two valid email accounts @ home (my wife and myself) which is on my own IP with my own domain. I pay $5 extra a month above my broadband (10Mbit [yeah, solid] wireless) -- how much do you pay for that Exchange box?

    I've run this type of setup through many offices scaled to dozens of email servers -- and the beauty is they also talk to each other sharing block/white-listed address' as needed. Wait -- you will get spam. Filtered through my account to I'm seeing 80 something that got in -- 2,164 blocked IP's [today], 380 harvested address', and 48 for various other infractions (attempts to relay through me, from a country where I know nobody, etc :).

    Statistically (yeah, they all get nmap'd back)? 96% Windows based.

    I give my email to friends. I have a work email that anybody that knows how to call me can have it. I even print it on my business card. No, I wouldn't post it to USENET or even here -- but it's still "out there". My unlisted phone number, OTOH, anybody can have. 847.854.0048. It's always busy and one channel of my ISDN home line. The other channel routes to the house for two phone lines (or Internet backup if and as needed) and is automatically unlisted and unpublished (at no cost since it is a "data circuit") -- and no, I'd rather not post that either. :)

    Exchange? Never! eyo

  15. GUIDO NoteServer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congrats to lily's developers for all their hard work.

    I just stumbled across this [noteserver.org] online music composition generator.I wonder Jan and Han-Wen are aware? Looks interesting for quick and dirty snippets, perhaps great for a beginner's music comp class. It also appears that GUIDO has a more "natural" TeX-like command set, things like \slur, \staccato. But judging by the examples, I think lily is a bit more versatile, in the end.

    iw

  16. Very cool, but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It sounds as if it may be cool, but I wonder if these robotic lips are really as advanced as the article suggests, or if instead some kind of shortcut was taken. I was a music major and I played a brass instrument (french horn). Brass instruments do not have a reed or any other artificial source of vibrations. Instead, the performer's own lips are the source of the vibrations. The performer essentially generates a highly-controlled "raspberry" by constricting the muscles that surround the mouth and buzzing the lips while pressed against the mouthpiece (so the sound of a brass instrument is really just an amplified raspberry, artfully done). This is hard enough to do by itself, but it's made even harder by the fact that brass instruments embody the open harmonic series, which means that the peformer can play many notes without changing the valve settings just by adjusting the tension in the mouth (think of a bugle). One of the things that makes a brass player competent is the ability to hit the correct harmonic without cracking the note (also known as a "clam"). It's very hard to get it right consistently. If this robot is really doing all of this, plus pressing the valves, plus articulating the correct attacks and rhythm, and doing all of it well enough to play "Trumpeter's Holiday," I'm impressed!
    aep

  17. "If he committed no crime in his home country" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think it's up for any debate as to whether he committed no crime in his home country

    Yes it is. In Australia they have things called "trials" precisely for the purpose of debating such issues. kra

  18. Corporate cave-ins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I am currently in tepid water. A police officer who has no jurisdiction whatsoever where I live is currently investigating me for allegedly promoting violence against a particular spammer and criminal proxy-abuser (proxy hijacking is specifically a crime here).

    That police officer has repeatedly attempted to contact me (as a rule, I never volunteer any information to law enforcement), and has gone so far as to obtain some personal information about me. Turns-out that the ISP caved-in to his demands and provided some information about me, in clear violation of legal procedure and current privacy laws.

    This is no different from a cracker obtaining passwords/access through social engineering.

    Furthermore, the officer has repeatedly attempted to have me contact him tough threatening e-mail messages.

    My question is: should there be stiff penalties towards law-enforcement officers who manage to illegally and without due process of law get information about ISP subscribers, especially if they are well outside their police department jurisdiction? gth

  19. Lilypond, MusicXML, and musical scores on the Web by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree with Han-Wen's criticisms of MusicXML, (some of which he voiced previously in a response to the short article I submitted in January). I readily admit that the blurb [slashdot.org] had some errors in it; and especially after witnessing the prevailing confusion over the issues involved, I wish I had written a full-length article on the state of free music score publishing and interchange.

    MusicXML fails in many ways, but neither Lilypond's native format nor the various binary formats fits the bill, either. My intention in submitting the article was to make people aware that there is currently no open, editable, universal, web-renderable music notation format. Please bear in mind that MIDI is not a music notation format, and is inadequate for the purposes described above. LilyPond is a great program and a high caliber open-source development project which I admire and endorse--this is a lot more than I can say for MusicXML (regardless of the apples and oranges comparison). But I don't think it will thrive until it has a GUI and expands into the markets ruled by Sibelius, Finale, and (to a lesser extent) Encore. In other words, I think that to become a major player, LilyPond must eventually must, in addition to being the superb typesetting program that it is, it must also reach those who want an intuitive score editor.

    I'm very please that open source music typesetting and publishing are topics of ongoing discussion (and controversy). Finally, I should mention that I'm affiliated with neither Recordaire nor LilyPond in any way. fot

  20. Election Year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like an election year doggy treat. Pass it in the House and kill it in the Senate. jn

  21. In other news.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If one of them is turned on by your presence it's not just that you've had too much to drink!

    No. It's just that they've had too much to drink...

    Cheers,
    Ian hnq

  22. Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Just tell them you need a quote... that you need to ensure that you have the money right now to be able to repair it.

    It's perfectly reasonable to, once they've given you the quote, to also tell you what all is wrong with your car. Tell them you'd need to think about it, as if this is going to put a bit of crimp in your budget for this month, and say you'll get back to them as soon as you've worked out the details.

    Trot down to your favorite small shop mechanic and ask him how much he'd charge to do exactly the job that the other guys said needed to get done. You tell him that the dealership has already given you a quote for $X, and the problem has been diagnosed by them. Odds are he'll undercut them. If not, just go back to the dealership... you're SOL.

    If your mechanic guy has offered to do the repairs, then you go back to the dealership and tell them that you just can't swing that kind of money this month. Then you take your car to little guy's shop and have it repaired there.

    Funny thing is, if enough people did this, the little guys would learn what the diagnosis codes meant because they'd get customers coming in telling them what was already wrong, and the mechanics could start matching up codes to real problems.

    Now the question is, is the above method, using strictly social engineering, still considered a violation of the DMCA? rqy

  23. rm -rf $(TEMPFILE) /dev/null by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was an obscure typo bug I found this morning (after 3 months)

    Argh.

    Wish the shell would have added the (obvious) ' > ':P
    qpf

  24. This is news??? Who the fuck cares! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's odd this outage lasted for so many hours. Hotmail is spread across multiple clusters at multiple geographic locations. Presumably, so is passport (which is what was br0xx0red). You would *think* MS would keep a complete backup of the last known passport config somewhere, like 1 day - 1 week, etc.

    In theory it should only take a matter of minutes to rollback the entire thing... and you would've thought they'd test it before deploying any changes.

    Sounds like somebody screwed the pooch on this one. rjp

  25. lawmakers break into computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i think this is pretty interesting. It's similar to saying, "I didn't break in to that persons house to aquire their property, the door was wide open." Pardon my law knowledge.. terminology may be incorrect, but this is sort of like Breaking and Entering (plus theft) versus Trespassing (plus theft).

    Is there a difference between trespassing a "wide open" system which you aren't supposed to be in, and "cracking" ones way into a secured system which you aren't supposd to be in? vi

  26. I guess that'll show em. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    GNAA/Linux really has very few problems with userspace backward compatibility. What did you have in mind?

    Merely my brief experience with Gentoo, when they first upgraded glibc (from 2.2 to 2.3 iirc) and broke half the packages, then downgraded it again and broke everything else. This is really a pet peeve: aren't minor versions supposed to be compatible? And a zillion similar but smaller-scale annoyances, well expressed by Bill Paul many years ago [freebsd.org] and the years haven't eased the pain all that much.

    And BSDs are more likely to introduce binary incompatibilities

    Clearly you haven't used the BSDs. You may have library incompatibilities between major versions, but just install the earlier "compat libraries" and you're set. I upgraded from FreeBSD 4 to FreeBSD 5 -- a huge upgrade, over 2 years in the making -- and all my software just worked, even complex stuff like KDE and Mozilla that had been compiled under 4.x. rh

  27. Cultural differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    One banner read: "Aznar, because of you we all pay."

    It's really strange. The Spanish are now, after the Madrid blasts, even angrier at their government for fighting terror than before.

    Over here the public would be putting aside such petty political differences and screaming for revenge on the terrorists, instead. se

  28. Future Lawyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a computer science student graduating college and hoping to head to law school, I wonder if you have any particular advice about wha training, if any, will help to prepare me for "cyber-law". Many schools seem to have programs focusing on this aspect of the law, but I've often thought that the generalist approach to a field yielded better results.

    Are there any experiences you'd advise a young prospective attorney interested in this field to seek out?

    gei
  29. Haha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I read the headline of this article, I thought it read: "Beer Bellies Really Do Stink" un

  30. Time to move :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Buy missile complex for $300K or less.
    2. Get $500K in donations to fix up your own private property (a scam in and of itself).
    3. Sell on eBay for $3.95 million.
    4. Profit.
    wku

  31. Perhaps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    they had to go back and make sure it had enough buffer overflow issues so they could keep the demand for MSCEs high?

    Joking aside, I think these delays can be attributed to the whole "Trustworthy Computing" thing and MS discovering just how much junk code was floating around in each new version. They have deep enough pockets to ride out these kind of delays but it does open a great window of opporutnity for OS X and GNAA/Linux along with a raft of other OSS solutions. A break in the constant upgrade cycle is an opening we should all be working to take advantage of, from desktop tech to database admin to kernel devs. cox

  32. Don't use KDE do you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've used kde since the 1.0 days, upgrading all along on my dual ppro-200. Even in the slowest 2.0 days, it ran fast enough on my system. Sure I turned the eye-candy slider way down when I configured KDE the first time, but that is all. It works, and is fast enough.

    The only time I have problems is when I hear the harddrive grinding away, swapping. Even then I'm running something heavy duty in addition to KDE, something that can take up most of my memory alone. bsi

  33. Fair Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Almost good. How about,

    What do you think needs to be done to ensure that our rights of Fair Use are preserved in this digital age? ks

  34. Warm heart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *cough*Linus Torvalds*cough* om

  35. Bad Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a well meaning idea, but it would cause more problems than it would solve. It would just encourage sloppy code; people would rationalize "I don't need to fix errors because it doesn't matter", which is a very bad habit to get into when programming, ignoring errors, or even warnings cv

  36. lawmakers break into computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i think this is pretty interesting. It's similar to saying, "I didn't break in to that persons house to aquire their property, the door was wide open." Pardon my law knowledge.. terminology may be incorrect, but this is sort of like Breaking and Entering (plus theft) versus Trespassing (plus theft).

    Is there a difference between trespassing a "wide open" system which you aren't supposed to be in, and "cracking" ones way into a secured system which you aren't supposd to be in? ng

  37. Not hijacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    But: Software piracy is not legal in Australia.

    Better questions are:

    1. Is copyright & contract violation a criminal act, or merely a civil matter in Australia?
    2. Is copyright & contract violation a criminal act, or merely a civil matter in the US?
    3. When did this come about?
    4. If he alledgedly committed the acts in Australia (whether they're civil or criminal matters), why is he not facing the Australian courts?
    5. If it's a civil matter in Australia, why are they even talking about extradition?
    So the question is: Does the US court have jurisdiction of these crimes, if they did occur in Australia? That's a question which the US court will no doubt adress in the trial.

    I hope that it's looked at in Australian courts first.

    etx
    1. Re:Not hijacking by obeythefist · · Score: 1

      1) It's criminal.
      2) It's criminal.
      3) Years ago.
      4) Because the Australian courts determined that no crime was committed on an Australian victim on Australian "soil".
      5) Because relations with the USA take precedent over the rights of Australian citizens in the eyes of the Australian government.

      The US court believes it has jurisdiction over *everywhere* in the world (see DVD Jon, and that e-book guy).

      --
      I am government man, come from the government. The government has sent me. -- G.I.R.
  38. that isn't how it works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are they going to coat them in extensible insulator, too?

    and every crush-injury will destroy them

    these guys need ome more requirements analysis bis

  39. Don't forget Poland! by morbuz · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    --
    CAPS LOCK IS LIKE CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
    1. Re:Don't forget Poland! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still laughing.... thanks

  40. What happened to the naming convetion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IANAAP, but Vulcan is already reserved, it was a theoretical planet in the early 20th century that would be closer into the Sun that Mercury's orbit that would account for irregularities in Mercury's orbital path. There was actually no planet and Mercury's behavior is proof of the special theory of relativity (IIRC).

    I'd presume that for historical reasons Vulcan would be reserved. Also recall that theres lots of trans pluto pluto sized objects that have names, I forget what the naming mechanism is for them, but I think they're roman. wuq

  41. The real problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Is there somewhere that I can sign up to be a pistol whipper?

    je

  42. Starbucks recapitulating Personics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what I posted on Wi-Fi Networking News [wifinetnews.com] about why Starbucks efforts are misguided:

    Starbucks reportedly to offer music burning service in up to 2,500 stores: The system will allow customers to have CDs burned while they wait; eventually, it will also allow downloads of music over Wi-Fi, the article in BusinessWeek says.

    Starbucks demanded a T-1 (1.544 Mbps in each direction) digital service infrastructure from its first hotspot partner, MobileStar, as well as its second, T-Mobile. I've speculated for a while on how this high-speed network could be used to cache material in each Starbucks, like movie and music downloads.

    This latest project sounds somewhat misguided for the reason cited by the Forrester analyst in the article: Your typical barista may be great at making espresso but is not in a position to fix the broken CD burner.

    My cousin Steven was involved almost 20 years ago with a company called Personics. The company had worked out a catalog licensing deal with more than 70 labels from the largest down to some independents to allow them to offer custom mix tapes for about a buck a song. This was a reasonable price in those days. The system had a few thousand songs mastered onto CD-ROMs stored in a special employee-operated CD-ROM changer behind the counter. An employee would punch in your choices, and the system created a high-speed cassette tape dub.

    The company failed for two primary reasons: the hardware was proprietary, meaning that engineers had to fly around the country to fix it when it inevitably had glitches; and the catalog they offered too small because labels balked at including their most popular stuff for fear of cannibalizing pre-recorded CD and tape sales. (Price, my cousin reports, was not a problem: many customers were willing to pay even more, he noted to me after this item was originally posted.)

    If Starbucks creates the expectation of an easy process that's always available and then isn't available even part of the time at any given store, they lose their audience. Starbucks makes its money from processing a high volume of custom drinks--you don't want to distract from that. CD burners aren't that difficult to keep operating, but a failure rate that's a fraction of that experienced by typical home and business users could be a dramatic problem in a high-expectation retail environment.

    The article says the price is comparable to Apple and other download services. Two problems with that comparison. First, it's not. It's $7 for five songs, or 40 percent, or $13 for an album, or 30 percent higher. That's a significantly different price when you're dealing with price sensitivity. It's comparable to a mass-produced discounted audio CD.

    Second, you're receiving an audio CD, not digital music per se, which could be a turnoff for the audience that might be interested in a fast, in-store music service. (However, since HP is the partner, and is reselling their own version of the iPod, it's possible that the ultimate digital delivery system will be a version of the iTunes Music Store.)

    This is the latest incarnation of Compaq-cum-Hewlett Packard's attempts to capitalize on their relationship as a supplier to Starbucks. In January 2001, when the MobileStar deal was announced for installing hotspots, Starbucks made a big deal about Microsoft and Compaq's participation. Compaq wasn't a partner, though; Starbucks had signed a $100 million, five-year deal to buy equipment and services. Microsoft was a partner, and it never seemed to amount to anything that saw the light of day.

    In the years since this deal, Compaq and then HP have reaped advertising benefits, appearing in full-page newspaper advertisements as part of the Starbucks hotspot system, even though they had nothing to do with MobileStar and T-Mobile's deployment. At one point, Starbucks had Compaq iPaq's available for customers to play with, and those disappeared, too.

    It's this fumb

  43. Warm heart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Transmeta will always have a warm place in my heart

    At Transmeta's power dissipation, shouldn't that be luke warm? cp

  44. If my Slinky taught me anything . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One kink and it's trash can city. ax

  45. I for one would appreciate this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a typical geek who builds custom computers for people preinstalled and preconfigured with their choice of software, and most of my clients opt for Media Player Classic rather than WMP as their default video playback thing, as far as video goes. I'm not an OEM by any means (I've only built about a dozen computers), but I'd love if customisable installs would filter down to the end users.

    For those of you who don't know, Media Player Classic is an open source clone of Media Player 6.4 (the default media player shipped with Win2k), and (with the right codec libs installed) will play DVD's, avi's, wmv's, ogm's, Real and QT streams. Very nice clean and easy to use interface, and hooks into standard DirectShow codecs, none of the irritations of WMP/Real/QT, and completely free (thanks Gabest!), although donations are always welcom I imagine.

    Being able to completely replace WMP with MPC would be a dream come true for me, and my clients. The only thing that worried me is that MS would take their ball home, and if made to remove Media Player they would probably cripple DirectShow to such an extent that I'd have to install WMP in order to get my codec libraries to work. jgo

  46. sliding down the glass.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey, remember linus signed some pretty odd things during LCA:)

    Yeah, my wife still refuses to wash her left breast.... jb

  47. Cooperation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In order for this to work, it might need changes in the OS level.
    Imagine you access a block/char device or an NFS mounted directory and the device driver never returns from the system call. Your script would hang, and a kill would produce a zombie process.
    If you want fault tolerance, you'd have to have a timeout mechanism for all device drivers. But if you read from/dev/mt0 and the tape needs rewinding and it takes 6 minutes, you don't want to have your script aborted after 5 minutes. ryh

  48. He also sold... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Jack Hammer of some sort... $360

    Well now you know how he found it.

    lz

  49. Tractor beams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gravitational tractor beams.

    Personally I don't know why this wasn't thought of first before all those silly ideas like just blowing something up

    A nice large tractor beam from a high orbiting satellite to repel or attract any asteroid or other thing that's going to hit the planet, and problem solved.

    Of course, there's the technical side... prn

  50. Actualy kind of sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I completely agree with you. The only thing I really HATE about SQL Server is that it only runs on Windows Operating Systems. As I "only" have about 6 years of experience managing database servers, I find Oracle very frustrating to develop for and maintain. My databases aren't THAT huge (maybe 75-80 million records) and SQL Server works great. Of course, my main client is only now switching from v.7 to 2000 so I don't think this delayed release will affect me that much. I can do all my ColdFusion and Java development and hosting in Mac/GNAA/Linux so SQL Server is the only thing forcing me to keep a Windows box in my closet (which of course was locked up when I tried to use it this morning).

    I do hope they can somehow do a better job with security with the next release, although that may be asking too much.:-( Last time I had to reinstall SQL Server 2000, the whole subnet was down with the SQL Slammer worm before I even had a chance to configure the server and download the patches from Microsoft. Ouch. You have to download the patches ahead of time, pull the server off the internet, install SQL Server and all the patches, change the default port (and obviously make sure your sa password is not blank, duh) and only THEN go back online. Wow. srd

  51. Re:Is it me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    same here, its not just you

  52. Divide and conquer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no need for BSD-from-scratch disto.

    1: All the BSDs are entirely different operating systems, which are lumped into one category becuase of their roots.
    2: Since no extra bullshit is thrown in like linux, there is less need for reworking the base.
    3: BSD is not obscure in the least, it is rather alive and florishing.

    BTW you forgot to mention Solaris, which has it's roots in BSD too. su

  53. I for one would appreciate this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a typical geek who builds custom computers for people preinstalled and preconfigured with their choice of software, and most of my clients opt for Media Player Classic rather than WMP as their default video playback thing, as far as video goes. I'm not an OEM by any means (I've only built about a dozen computers), but I'd love if customisable installs would filter down to the end users.

    For those of you who don't know, Media Player Classic is an open source clone of Media Player 6.4 (the default media player shipped with Win2k), and (with the right codec libs installed) will play DVD's, avi's, wmv's, ogm's, Real and QT streams. Very nice clean and easy to use interface, and hooks into standard DirectShow codecs, none of the irritations of WMP/Real/QT, and completely free (thanks Gabest!), although donations are always welcom I imagine.

    Being able to completely replace WMP with MPC would be a dream come true for me, and my clients. The only thing that worried me is that MS would take their ball home, and if made to remove Media Player they would probably cripple DirectShow to such an extent that I'd have to install WMP in order to get my codec libraries to work. upt

  54. I don't get Congress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Nobody's getting shut out of the DVD player business.

    Perhaps you missed the whole DeCSS [harvard.edu] issue? "Without licensed DVD players for GNAA/Linux and other operating systems, an entire class of computer users is completely cut off from viewing DVDs." sqb

  55. More interviews... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why doesn't anyone here seem to interview someone more interesting? I have no idea who the hell these people are, and no idea why I should care.

    Hell, go interview that Darl McBride guy everyone here is always blathering about. Here, I'll even give you the contact info I nicked off those posts of his info someone keeps spamming.

    Home phone #: (801) 424-2006
    Office phone #: (801) 932-5820
    Email: darl@sco.com qj

  56. Simple Answer = Patch-Day at Hotmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even MS has to patch their own servers.

    TechAdmin: We have to install the latest Mediaplayer updates on the Hotmail servers.

    Executive Manager: Why, that means downtime - for every minute downtime of hotmail.com I get less bonus! The servers stay up!

    TA: But we have to install these updates because without them we can not patch the servers.

    EM: Why do we need to patch the servers?

    TA: To make them more secure.

    EM: But we use our own MS Products...

    TA: That's we need to patch so often!

    EM: But the latest patches were not labeled even 'critical'

    TA: That's because of Steve and Bill and the guys from marketing, so they can tell everyone that our products are secure.

    [May someother continue...] err

  57. Slashdot - MySQL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't Slashdot run on MySQL [slashdot.org]? zxw

  58. What about linux distributions?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The difference is that neither Mandrake, SuSE, Debian are using a monopoly in one area (OS) to create a monopoly in another area (media), that is what is illegal even in the US. Don't you recall the AT&T situation? uak

  59. Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds more like artificial muscles. gb

  60. Dammit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think that's bad? Try working at an isp and have people yelling at you and blaming you for breaking hotmail ;).

    ahh the joys of the internet. gu

  61. Just More Validation for OSS Model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a company with many thousands of employees, more money than God, and a dominant position in almost every market segment they're in. And they STILL can't write secure code OR meet most of their delivery deadlines (deadlines which they set themselves, not ones that were imposed on them).

    Meanwhile, the groups that produce products like MySQL and PostgreSQL have had steady releases, a wealth of needed features, and relatively few security incidents.

    Unless you're already so heavily bought in to their infrastructure that any change would be prohibitively expensive, I can't see how it makes any sense to base your business on Microsoft's products. They're expensive, they're insecure, they're performance laggards, and you just can't rely on them for support.

    Cheers,
    pny

  62. Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always wanted a spam filter with 1000% accuracy!
    xn

  63. Dual NIC controllers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It comes standard with a wlan chip, AND a wired nic!

    I'm very impressed by this little bugger!

    If its got a DVD drive, I'm sold. Its still a little pricey for my taste buds, but I'm definately impressed! pw

  64. Trolls R' Us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yow. I've never seen so many obvious MS posts on any story here before. They must have been rousing people from bed in Redmond today to get the word out.

    How are these obvious trolls and flamebait getting modded up? Every single MS monopoly story has some bonehead saying "how come Apple doesn't get in trouble for bundling iTunes..." This has been definitively answered dozens of times, but here it is again, and modded up too. Likewise, every story has someone saying "what's wrong with bundling things people find useful..."(apart from anti-trust law, nothing) or "who gets hurt by forcing MS to stop breaking the law? Joe Sixpack, that's who..." (I agree, let's ignore laws that restrain Microsft's freedom to innovate) Both are here as well, and modded up.

    What's going on? The low number of comments on the story seem to have revealed a distinct pattern that would normally go unnoticed. st

  65. Precedent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm not sure, but I don't think the US extradites US citizens to other countries.
    Well, that's what we have the Internet for, isn't it?

    Extracted from the US to:
    Ireland [archives.tcm.ie]

    Hong Kong [info.gov.hk]

    Yugoslavia [geocities.com]

    I am by no means an expert on this, these are just some google results. wap

  66. Yukon's promised features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not good for MS. A lot of people have been waiting on Yukon. Yukon is finally going to deliver online restoration, database mirroring with automatic failover, and support for mirrored backup sets.

    Disappointing. SQL Server had really come a long way, too. Maybe 2005 won't be too late. yp

  67. Been there, done that...sort of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article states that Starbucks is working in conjunction with Hear Music. I know that in Chicago, there is (or was, havent been there in awhile) a Starbucks that had a Hear Music CD store next door. The two stores were connected, and you could bring your coffee in with you while you browsed for CDs and listened to music at the listening stations. Sounds like this is just a natural extension of that. And I think its a great idea. I'm not too optomistic about getting one in Pittsburgh, however, where the only common record store chain (NRM) is long since gone and bankrupt and a Virgin Megastore or even a Tower Records has never touched the shores of the Mon River. But I digress. vfn

  68. Re:Is it me by Curtman · · Score: 1

    Somehow I was able to get in. I can't hit the main page, but my Firefox LiveBookmark for Slashdot is still working, and clicking them gets me here logged in. Interesting. First non-AC post? Haha

  69. Sounds like inferior cephalopod nerves to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, cephalopod nerves aren't that amazing. They're no faster that than the nerves in your body. It's just that cephalopods never developed myelinated nerves. Myselin insulates the nerve and allows for much faster signal propogation. The large size of cephalopod nerves is simply an alternate way to get higher transmission speeds.

    Either way, nerves only transmit at a few hundred miles an hour. Even assuming these flex wires aren't as conductive as a bulk gold wire, you're still looking at a transmission speed at a significant fraction of c.

    Silicon and metal wiring operates at speeds millions of times higher than biological nervous systems. sf

  70. Put this into Slashcode? heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By the looks of the Intel story below, Slashdot sure needs a good Bayesian spam filter. I recommend this. Or a baseball bat. Because you can go over to anti-slash and really pound some skulls with a baseball bat, and it would probably be more satisfying. But filters are good too, don't get me wrong. xla

  71. Why isn't /. working in Firefox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm getting a Service Unavaiable error.

  72. My Crusoe is *anything* but "blazingly" fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Transmeta is going to have to show me a *lot* before I ever buy anything with one of their chips in it again.
    My Fujitsu 2040 runs at 867mhz, but it "feels" like a P3-500.
    Windows + WMP9 on it are basically unusable, as is Mozilla.
    The only way I can use it is with FreeBSD + Opera7:) au

  73. Different threading model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Not exactly. All this means is that threads do not migrate preemptively, nor do they migrate while blocked or switched out while in kernel mode. Threads only migrate if (a) the thread itself wants to move to another cpu or (b) the thread is returning to user mode and the userland scheduler decides to migrate the thread to balance the load out (which only applies to threads associated with user processes since no other type of thread can 'return to usermode').

    Kernel threads almost universally stay on the cpu they were originally assigned to. High performance threaded subsystems, such as the network stack, are replicated. That is, the network stack creates multiple threads (one per cpu) and those threads do not migrate because, obviously, they do not need to.

    Generally speaking, the purpose of making thread migration explicit instead of automatic is to partition a larger data set across available cpu caches rather then cause the same data to be shared amoungst all cpu caches. The processors operate a lot more efficiently and SMP scales a lot better. Most people do not realize the horrendous cost of moving threads between cpus because the cache mastership change is invisibly handled by hardware, but the cost is still there and still very real.

    -Matt kau

  74. Let's draw a line in the sand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the programmers who need the environment to compensate for their inadequacies, step on one side. All the programmers who want to learn from their mistakes and become better at their craft, get on the other side.

    Most of us know where this line is located.


    "In other news, at the local beach today a vicious fight broke out between geeks about where to draw a line. Sand was kicked, noses have been blooded, we have some unconfirmed reports of a wedgie. We will have more on this breaking news as it comes in."

    ac

  75. Take it one step further; share what you filter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DSPAM is one of these statistical filters (like spamprobe and CRM114) that can perform virtually perfect filtering of spam/non-spam you receive.

    Now that you are free of spam yourself, may I suggest that you take it one step further and share your data with the anti-spam community; the WPBL project [pc9.org] lets many users report the IPs sending them spam and non-spam in realtime using a couple simple scripts installed in procmail.

    Our central database then publishes a real-time list of spam sources (the IP blocklist). Unlike spamcop, WPBL is entirely based upon automatic decisions made by statistical filters, 24/7. The resulting blocklist is already used by many ISPs; and you can also use it to block spamming IPs at your own server.

    nd
  76. Re:Is it me by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

    yep, you can also it seems log in now by posting, wonder what the bug was

    --
    "goodbye and hello, as always" ~Prince Corwin, from Zelazny's Amber series
  77. Election Year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like an election year doggy treat. Pass it in the House and kill it in the Senate. fjy

  78. News for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those things there is Mailinator [mailinator.com].

    Throwaway accounts should never be, out of all places, registered on Hotmail.com. They suspend your account if you don't login for 30 days. At least Yahoo!Mail or other free alternatives let you forget the account for few months and not get penalized for it. ir

  79. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If dogs are flying, then that is not weed you are smoking... Tread carefully, but enjoy. odu

  80. argh! can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > For those Oracle lovers in the crowd, take a look at the benchmarks - MS SQL rules the lower and middle
    > ground. It would rule the high end except lack of platform has held it back.

    um, which benchmarks would those be? www.tpc.org doesn't have many benchmarks for desktop-sized servers (which is where sql server really does beat oracle/db2/etc). And as far as it being held back by its platform - without any of the parallel features of oracle/db2, and without any of the partitioning features - it has zero chance at the high-end.

    It's basically *years* behind either of those two databases. This has nothing to do with windows, it has everything to do with lack of high-end database features in sql server. Microsoft has done a good job of improving the database client UI and adding usability features to low-end database functionality. But it hasn't added the high-end functionality, nor has it really delivered a great UI (for example: the SQL Server GUIs all sort date columns alphabetically rather than cronologically).

    > Yukon is going to kill Oracle in the middle space because of development features.
    Got news for ya, people pick databases for reasons other than development features.
    sa

  81. Woop de fucking do! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, it'll probably cost a lot to reprint all the New Age ancient traditions to include a tenth planet.

    Ten Planets? You haven't been keeping up with here astrology has been going the last twenty-fove years. I know astrologers who use twenty planets, most of which are imaginary. [ Dutch School of Astrology. Germans School of Astrology. The Planets of Alice Bailey, and related flakes.]

    This, of course, ignores the two hundred or so asteroids which new age astrologers use. And don't forget the plethora of comets, meteor showers, deep space objects, and other things that may, or may not exist.

    And to be sure that you haven't forgotten anything, there are umpteen "Arabic Parts", Midpoints, Orbs, harmonics, ( or something like that) etc.

    In short, roughly 10^8 objects that no self-respecting astrologer would omit, if one believes in the validity of all the books on astrology that have been published.

    lj
  82. Problem trying to explain to clients by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Figures. Here I am at a client's house fixing his computer so the cable modem works again, and I'm trying to show him how good Proxomitron works with getting rid of all the Hotmail surrounding ads, and I can't even connect. He didn't believe me when I said that it was probably Hotmail being down....

    Perhaps if it was some routine maintenance on Microsoft's part, they could forewarn people about it? It affects a lot of people's lives, whether free or not. yd

  83. I really miss.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure it's that simple. There are tons more regulations that manufacrurers must meet today - from safety regulations to pollution measures. Throwing a 440ci engine with a four barrel carb into a light car simply isn't possible anymore. vqb

  84. Re:Is it me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    user pages still not working though

  85. appeals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Microsoft has an appeals process and will likely get an injunction against enforcement while they pursue said appeal, which may take years.

    So for now just speculate and pretend MS will have to abide by the sanctions. By the time the ruling does take place users will be familiar enough (if they are not already) with WMP that it would be hard for anything to take its place. If a user has purchased any addins for WMP it is unlikely for them to prefer another player. Personally I think this is more of a burden for the users because they will have to find the newest WMP to download then its 4-5 patches.

    qdb
  86. I don't get Congress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Govt. is typically illogical.... IMHO, let them pass this one as law, and THEN hit them with the questioning about their logic on cars vs. DVD's.

    It's more leverage for us if it's already written into law.
    mnb

  87. Too much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But are you North or South of the equator? That determines whether they go round clockwise or anti-clockwise. qnb

  88. Re:Is it me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, I must have pissed of Slashdot, too. What did I do? I thought we were just a big happy family of trolls, flamers, nerds, and dorks. Why the cold feet so sudden? While I'm a troll...I think we all have a bit of humanity within us. Did Data teach us nothing? Can't we all just get along? Slashdot, come on...please...I need you...

  89. /. /.ed? by brain007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow, 85 AC replies vs 3 real replies.

    Let's hope someone patents AC spam so that they get charged a dollar everytime they wanna talk about something offtopic.

    1. Re:/. /.ed? by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      it has to do with a bug in slashcode or a problem with the /. servers I think, ppl cant log in and now it seems the main page is intermintently down

      --
      "goodbye and hello, as always" ~Prince Corwin, from Zelazny's Amber series
    2. Re:/. /.ed? by Fred+Foobar · · Score: 1

      That's probably because /. apparently is having problems with user accounts right now, including logging in (though I could log in to post :).

      --
      It was a really good paper.
    3. Re:/. /.ed? by brain007 · · Score: 1

      Yea, I figured as much.

      I'm thinking someone figured out a way to do some AC spam DDOS type thing.

      It would take a lot to bring down /. though.

    4. Re:/. /.ed? by Bootsy+Collins · · Score: 1

      I was able to get in, logged in automatically, by going directly to the story page (from an RSS/RDF aggregator). But the homepage is no go, as you've all noted.

    5. Re:/. /.ed? by identity0 · · Score: 1

      It probably has something to do with increased traffic - it's the holidays, and people are snowed in all over the country.

      I was able to get in through the RSS page, btw. Go to http://slashdot.org/index.rss and the main page will be there, just in a non-html format.

    6. Re:/. /.ed? by kesuki · · Score: 4, Funny

      It would take a lot to bring down /. though.
      Not really a simple "shutdown -h now" would do it.

    7. Re:/. /.ed? by bluenirve · · Score: 1

      Pretty much. Look at the replies, and it's the same AC's over and over again. Heh.. I wonder how easy it is to turn off AC posting for now.

    8. Re:/. /.ed? by caluml · · Score: 1
      Not really a simple "shutdown -h now" would do it.

      I was playing around as root :) on a server once when I was learning Linux (dangerous), and I found out that you can simply echo stuff straight over /dev/kmem. Makes the box lock up solid. What other (stylish) ways do Slashdotters have to make boxes go bang-bang?
      I did rm / -rf once too. (On purpose. No, really. It was an only machine that needed rebuilding, and we thought, what the hell.) It wasn't that great. It trashed some dirs, and stopped when it got to /bin/rm. I should have compiled it statically, and run it from /dev/shm or something. Or set the sticky bit.

    9. Re:/. /.ed? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      ask and ye shall recieve... click user preferences over on the top left of this screen, from there click on 'comments' then look for "Anonymous Modifier (modifier assigned to anonymous posts)" and set that to -6. All AC posts even those rated +5 funny are now -1 (to you) you can safely browse at 0, and not see any AC posts.

  90. Starbucks sells coffee? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always thought they were selling milk, sugar and "lifestyle" with some kind of dark caffeinated substance occasionally thrown in. ic

  91. Re:Is it me by Curtman · · Score: 1

    wonder what the bug was

    Whatever it was, it still is. I still get a 503 from the main page.

  92. Re:Is it me by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

    true here too, looks like we are the only ones on slashdot, stranded on one page and nowhere to go :-P

    --
    "goodbye and hello, as always" ~Prince Corwin, from Zelazny's Amber series
  93. unbelievable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without further independent research that confirms this data, I won't believe it... As my contribution to mankind, I will be donating my time to this endeavor this afternoon, right after work... anyone else care to volunteer? lv

  94. Blazingly high? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No 1.4 times Crusoe is not fast, since the Crusoe was/is kinda slow. Anyway the comment implied that the line was fast, but as stated in the linked article the Crusoe was panned for its performance. yfm

  95. Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This summer, when it's hot outside, and your hemmeroids are
    even hotter, just look to the cool relief of Preparation-H
    to get yourself feeling better. igm

  96. Mechanics for the 21st century by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to be assuming that this is not happening already. I wonder if that is true. I would assume that like mechanics, computer techs will give misleading or wrong advice some of the time either out of ignorance or avarice. dj

  97. Date in the story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps a date in the story would have been more useful, since "As of 8:15 PM EST" is now just highly misleading. That 8:15PM EST was on Friday, March 12. This story is making it sound like it's been down for days, but in reality it was just a few short hours.

    This story isn't even relevant at this point. zg

  98. Once again for luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Option 1: Windows XP with Media Player, 99 Euros.
    Option 2: Windows XP without Media Player, 99 Euros.

    Retail purchasers and OEM licensees will be completely free to choose either version.

    No, this is not a joke. If the EUC think this is too obvious to mention and prohibit, they are in for a rude awakening. qo

  99. Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Creating an entire PC just to show a picture?

    I agree, but you're missing most of the point- it's not the hardware, it's the concept; low-tech is best.

    • framing a picture means it was good enough to warrant said treatment. The whole point of putting up a picture frame is lost if all you show are crap photos of your dog or whatnot. Further, if I have a great photo, I want it to always be there, or at least be instantly accessible. No easy way to do that here...
    • the LCD panel won't last very long being on all day, every day; the backlights are rated for a few thousand hours tops.
    • they're horrible for viewing at anything other than dead-on; gamma and contrast change drastically from side to side or above/below
    • they need a power cord, which is fugly
    • they have vastly inferior resolution; high-resolution LCD panels aren't available anywhere except in laptops. A standard print from even, say, Walmart's digital photo lab machine...is at least 300dpi, more like 600dpi.
    • Archival photo paper, with UV-blocking glass, mounted with acid-free materials, will last decades. This toy will last about 2-3 years if it's lucky. Maybe 5.
    • at the temperatures involved (the mini-itx site lists a figure around 44C) none of the components will last very long. Hard drives especially don't like heat...
    jg
  100. Fear Uncle Sam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am usually don't condone the strong arm techniques of the US government. And I do support open source. But Warez is a crime. And it should be punished.

    Bullshit. Warez is a crime IN THE US, but not in Australia.

    In Germany it's illegal to say ANYTHING that is pro-nazi. Do you think that the US would even consider extraditing one of its citizens who posted something pro-nazi on a website? Of course not.

    This is lunacy, pure and simple.

    LK gr

  101. Then again.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On second thought, I changed my mind. This would be a great precedent.

    If it works, let's pass a law making spamming illegal, with harsh penalties, and then demand that everyone extradite thier spammers. wi

  102. Date in the story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    In reality most hours are the same length. Hotmail was down for a few standard-length hours.

    Anyone who's watched the "time remaining" during a Windows installation or a large file copy ("...but it's been 3 minutes remaining for the past half hour!") knows that Microsoft uses their own, superior standards for time measurement, rather than slavishly adhering to those obsolete SI units.

    Hotmail was only down for 10 MS-minutes. ap

  103. Personal Usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Do you have a right to make your own personal copies of media that you have purchased as backups?

    If so, how does this impact the manufacturers of copy protected audio and data CDs?

    If a copy-protected audio or data CD goes faulty, is the manufacturer liable to provide a new copy free of charge? If so, in what time-frame? wao

  104. whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My very educated mother just sent us nine pizzas, sucka - Mr. T fmb

  105. "If he committed no crime in his home country" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    His acts may have been criminal in many countries, but that does not mean he committed the crimes in those countries. If I shoot a canadian businessman while he is in France, i've committed a crime in france, but wouldn't be extradited to Canada.

    Question with the sort of thing this case deals with is where the crime is actually committed. I think that as long as he hosted stuff on a server in Australia and he was in Australia, it does not matter which US copyrights he violated, he did not commit a crime in the US, so he shouldn't be extradited. How can he possibly break US law without being in the US or doing anything in the US?

    If the server he is using is located in the US, then maybe things are different. But just because the object was from the US doesn't mean he's broken US laws...

    Of course he can be prosecuted in Australia for breaking Australian law.... um

  106. Sarah Brightman/Nathan Lane .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My vote for: Sarah Brightman as Arwen Nathan Lane as Sam Deborah Gibson as Galadriel Micheal Crawford as Gandalf Choosing Frodo would be difficult Are the actors going to have be on their kness the whole performance? dic

  107. Oh, it's MICROSOFT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You know, I read the headline, and I honestly could not figure out WHO'S sql server was being delayed. So I said to myself while opening it; why diden't the author of this specify which SQL server is being affected?

    On a slightly more seious tone (though I did honestly not know who's server was being delayed; I thought it was some no named server that I'd never heard of!), do not allow microsoft to pull another 'we own the word windows'; never shortern Microsoft SQL server, into SQL server- at the absolute least call it MS SQL, so that this way in 5 years they can't turn around and sue everyone who has SQL in there name!

    Don't believe me; look at lindows. hh

  108. No wonder everyone's getting outsourced! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MPlayer plays back more video types than Windows Media Player, and also is more fault-tolerant, uses less resources, is easier to use, and is more stable.... and is more illegal, as it uses pirated software that they don't have permission to redistribute to do so. ub

  109. I wonder which will be more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...overburned? - the CDs or the coffee? rf

  110. GUIDO NoteServer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congrats to lily's developers for all their hard work.

    I just stumbled across this [noteserver.org] online music composition generator.I wonder Jan and Han-Wen are aware? Looks interesting for quick and dirty snippets, perhaps great for a beginner's music comp class. It also appears that GUIDO has a more "natural" TeX-like command set, things like \slur, \staccato. But judging by the examples, I think lily is a bit more versatile, in the end.

    sbi

  111. Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This summer, when it's hot outside, and your hemmeroids are
    even hotter, just look to the cool relief of Preparation-H
    to get yourself feeling better. arl

  112. Is there any hope? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By the time your daughter grows up, do you think there will be any of our cherished freedoms on the Internet left, or will everything be wrapped in legalese and DRM? With the passage of laws from the DMCA to the PATRIOT act, I've been increasingly pessimistic about the US's ability to pass any sane legislation that interfaces with the Internet... zia

  113. Zaurus connectivity ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I first expected it to be some kind of super Zaurus but no...
    it just seems to be some bigger Vaio C1xx.
    Now, I do not see who they want to sell this to if this at least present no consistency with the rest of their offer. rv

  114. First Real Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um... no, that doesn't do the same thing. The whole point of ftsh is that the 'try' block encloses a set of statements which must all be executed or it fails. If the 'cd/tmp' fails, bash will blindly run the 'rm -f data' anyway, whereas ftsh will stop and jump to the start of the try block to have another go. yp

  115. Too much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But are you North or South of the equator? That determines whether they go round clockwise or anti-clockwise. cpe

  116. Re:Is it me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's how I got here. ~_^

  117. He also sold... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Jack Hammer of some sort... $360

    Well now you know how he found it.

    fe

  118. Some have the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This is not meant to replace a score editor!!!

    Analogous to the world of word processing, this software is more in the category of software like TeX, LaTeX, or even Postscript and PDF, to a lesser extent. This is software made for pretty printing music. It is meant to do this job, and this job alone very, very well. While one could edit it directly (it's not that difficult to work with), that would be something like using a flathead screwdriver on a screw that is clearly a Philips.

    What people should do is look for a score editor that can export LilyPond documents. I'll help start you off:

    I'm sure there are others out there. vc
  119. Daemons deamons etc etc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A process that demands access to the OS...
    MS hides them....So MS in reality uses the OS as for something else and in other ways. Could it be because the MS the old OS drives slaves and will not give a nd insists on being the master one can consider Windows to be little more than a glorified slave driver.

  120. Actualy kind of sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I completely agree with you. The only thing I really HATE about SQL Server is that it only runs on Windows Operating Systems. As I "only" have about 6 years of experience managing database servers, I find Oracle very frustrating to develop for and maintain. My databases aren't THAT huge (maybe 75-80 million records) and SQL Server works great. Of course, my main client is only now switching from v.7 to 2000 so I don't think this delayed release will affect me that much. I can do all my ColdFusion and Java development and hosting in Mac/GNAA/Linux so SQL Server is the only thing forcing me to keep a Windows box in my closet (which of course was locked up when I tried to use it this morning).

    I do hope they can somehow do a better job with security with the next release, although that may be asking too much.:-( Last time I had to reinstall SQL Server 2000, the whole subnet was down with the SQL Slammer worm before I even had a chance to configure the server and download the patches from Microsoft. Ouch. You have to download the patches ahead of time, pull the server off the internet, install SQL Server and all the patches, change the default port (and obviously make sure your sa password is not blank, duh) and only THEN go back online. Wow. iao

  121. I think we all know what is coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmm, these kind of sites are becoming a nuisance.

    Sorry, that website uses broken embed tags and Windows-specific registry CLSIDs to point to quicktime player. I don't have a "registry" or a "quick time" player. For those of us who choose our own browser helper applications (instead of it being decided by a "registry") here is the relevant link [mac.com].

    For those of you with a "registry" that decides which applications will open what, and when, you might want to go here [symantec.com].
    pmr

  122. One of the first cases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the first cases of this was when Tom's Hardware (then only a startup site) reviewed a Riva TNT and said it was twice as fast as 3DFX voodoo (obviously untrue, but it's unknown if Nvidia paid him anything to say this). Eventually 3DFX picked up on this and demanded that Tom changes it, which he did.

    Here are the reviews from Tom's site:

    Comparison of Graphics Cards with NVIDIA's RIVA TNT Chip [tomshardware.com]
    Addendum to Banshee, Savage3D and TNT Preview [tomshardware.com]
    New 3D Chips - Banshee, G200, RIVA TNT And Savage3D [tomshardware.com]
    Preview of 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee, S3 Savage3D and NVIDIA RIVA TNT [tomshardware.com]

    I only skimmed the articles, but he doesn't seem to be saying that the TNT is twice as fast. The last article concludes:

    "NVIDIA's RIVA TNT is not the new wonder chip as some people may have expected. However it is sticking up very well against its toughest competitors from 3Dfx. 3Dfx has still got an edge in applications that are available in a Glide version and in games that don't strain the CPU as much, thus giving a dual Voodoo2 configuration the chance to show its power. However, there are many occasions where TNT is at least as good as single Voodoo2, dual Voodoo2 and certainly better than Voodoo Banshee."

    Seems fairly objective to me. Did I miss something? Maybe the articles have been edited? aye

  123. Umm.. anything new here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I read that article, thinking it would be about how NVidia pushes aroud web review sites. No, it was YET ANOTHER REHASH that infinium (a company with no hardware to display) going after [H]ardOCP.

    Don't bother, it's just VL trying to push up their ad revenue. sc

  124. What's DSPAM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, I figure it has to do with spam... but what exactly? Server? Client? GNAA/Linux? Windows? Don't make me click links, this is Slashdot and I'm lazy. vm

  125. Corporate cave-ins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I am currently in tepid water. A police officer who has no jurisdiction whatsoever where I live is currently investigating me for allegedly promoting violence against a particular spammer and criminal proxy-abuser (proxy hijacking is specifically a crime here).

    That police officer has repeatedly attempted to contact me (as a rule, I never volunteer any information to law enforcement), and has gone so far as to obtain some personal information about me. Turns-out that the ISP caved-in to his demands and provided some information about me, in clear violation of legal procedure and current privacy laws.

    This is no different from a cracker obtaining passwords/access through social engineering.

    Furthermore, the officer has repeatedly attempted to have me contact him tough threatening e-mail messages.

    My question is: should there be stiff penalties towards law-enforcement officers who manage to illegally and without due process of law get information about ISP subscribers, especially if they are well outside their police department jurisdiction? okn

  126. I guess that'll show em. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Um, linux is a kernel, not a distro.

    Which is unfortunate in many ways. For example, Matt has introduced variant symlinks into DragonFly, and has major plans involving vfs namespaces etc which will really solve a lot of problems in package management, like allowing two different conflicting versions of a package to exist at the same time. He can do all this because he's looking at the whole picture, and so are the others: the entire source tree for the base system is there on my machine, in one nicely-arranged subdirectory. I don't foresee major changes happening in the linux kernel driven by distributors. To this day, breakages with binary-incompatible glibc etc are constant annoyances with linux unless you choose a stable distributed version from a branded linux distro and stick to it. the linux kernel is what "linux is supposed to look like" to linus.

    What is "the linux kernel"? There's a Red Hat kernel, a Mandrake kernel, a SuSE kernel, and you can't really drop a generic Linus kernel into any of the commercial distros and expect it to work properly. (Debian and Gentoo are better.)

    I'm not dissing linux, it's better than the mainstream alternatives and has far better hardware support and graphical system administration tools than the BSDs. In fact after 2 years with FreeBSD I myself had switched to GNAA/Linux on my new machine because of hardware issues (I've now mostly switched to DragonFly and the hardware issues are mostly gone). And I use GNAA/Linux at work and have no desire to change that. But there are reasons why a lot of technically aware people find the BSDs nicer systems to play with. bm

  127. Wisdom takes time to build by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wisdom takes time to build.

    How old was Strom Thurmond when he died?

    wa

  128. Preach on, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    had to take my car to the dealership this weekend because the shop down the block didn't know what the codes meant. Turns out it was a misaligned break caliper, cost me $225 at the dealership, would have been about $130 down the street. eil

  129. Then again.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On second thought, I changed my mind. This would be a great precedent.

    If it works, let's pass a law making spamming illegal, with harsh penalties, and then demand that everyone extradite thier spammers. ra

  130. I guess that'll show em. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    GNAA/Linux really has very few problems with userspace backward compatibility. What did you have in mind?

    Merely my brief experience with Gentoo, when they first upgraded glibc (from 2.2 to 2.3 iirc) and broke half the packages, then downgraded it again and broke everything else. This is really a pet peeve: aren't minor versions supposed to be compatible? And a zillion similar but smaller-scale annoyances, well expressed by Bill Paul many years ago [freebsd.org] and the years haven't eased the pain all that much.

    And BSDs are more likely to introduce binary incompatibilities

    Clearly you haven't used the BSDs. You may have library incompatibilities between major versions, but just install the earlier "compat libraries" and you're set. I upgraded from FreeBSD 4 to FreeBSD 5 -- a huge upgrade, over 2 years in the making -- and all my software just worked, even complex stuff like KDE and Mozilla that had been compiled under 4.x. vr

  131. Starbucks to Begin Sinister PHASE TWO of Operation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A much more interesting article about this appeared a while back, called Starbucks to Begin Sinister PHASE TWO of Operation [theonion.com].

    Snippet from the article:
    Those living near one of the closed Starbucks outlets have reported strange glowing mists, howling and/or cowering on the part of dogs that pass by, and electromagnetic effects that cause haunting, unearthly images to appear on TV and computer screens within a one-mile radius. Experts have few theories as to what may be causing the low-frequency rumblings, half-glimpsed flashes of light, and periodic electronic beeps emanating from the once-busy shops. eh

  132. New Subs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot is a lot more fun now that you can buy karma. New-comers who like the site can just jusmp straight to "Good." fd

  133. Well it WAS working until you /.'ed it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (nt) oj

  134. Re:Is it me by Chatmag · · Score: 1

    Netscape doesnt work to get in, IE does. Firefox works. This is really strange happenings tonight.

    --
    Pete Carr Owner Chatmag.com
  135. IP laws in the internet age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I think you missed the thrust of the grandparent's comments. A better way to put it would be that the DMCA makes it trivial to prevent all legal copying. Do we threrefore need specific legal rights to restore the ability to create "fair use" copies? It may be impossible to prevent most forms of copying from a technical stand-point, but doing so makes you a criminal, even if what you're doing falls easily under "fair use" provisions. lq

  136. Many Other Riscs for Website Owners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have never got a request from a hardware manufacturer to beautify anything related to them at TuxMobil - GNAA/Linux On Mobile Computers [tuxmobil.org]. Actually laptop manufacturers do not seem to care about GNAA/Linux users [tuxmobil.org]. But there are other caveats. As discussed at SlashDot I had severe trademark trouble with the former project name MobiliX [tuxmobil.org]. There are other legal issues, which may occure in an instant. For example if some lawyer accuses a website owner not to obey certain legal requirements. At least in some countries (e.g. Germany) a dedicated law for internet content exists. ztd

  137. Woop de fucking do! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, it'll probably cost a lot to reprint all the New Age ancient traditions to include a tenth planet. ip

  138. Perspective by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OTOH, perspective from the point of view of survival of human race/modern civilization:

    Risks of extinction (of modern civilization) in car: 0 in 100
    Risks of extinction in plane:0 in 20,000
    Risks of extinction from asteroid 1 in 20,000 to 100,000
    fw

  139. Speed is by no means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The benchmark is of a TM5600 Crusoe against a VIA. I can tell you that the TM5800 933 MHz is faster than the Via at 1GHz and the Efficeon is even faster than that.
    Maybe Transmeta used to be a little slower, but not anymore. The Efficeon can keep up with the Pentium M
    and the new 90nm Efficeons will be even faster with higher clock speeds. zj

  140. Fear Uncle Sam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Singapore bans the import, sale and manufacture of chewing gum. It isn't illegal to chew it.

    Chuckle.
    A lot like the way the DMCA *doesn't* make fair use illegal.

    - qhu

  141. Music Notation and Freedom of Thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The notation used for traditional music in my country, Sri Lanka, is one of the most primitive notations I have ever seen. My friend Jim [mithuro.com] claims that the notation system used in Europe is far too restrictive. The same way a person's thought processes are controlled by the language, music is also partially constricted by the notation system used.

    Jim claims that the traditional music in Sri Lanka has far greater diversity than its western counterpart. Thus a simple music notation system, in his opinion at least, is far better than a complex rigorous one. lt

  142. Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This is not about catching scripting errors. It does not fix your code. It is about catching errors in the enviroment that scripts are running in.

    Shell scripts should be short and easy to write. I have seen plenty of them fail due to some resource or another being temporarily down. At first people are neat and then send an email to notify the admin. When this then results in a ton of emails everytime some dodo knocks out the DNS they turn it off and forget about it.

    Every scripting language has their own special little niche. BASH for simple things, perl for heavy text manipulation, PHP for creating HTML output. This scripting language is pretty much like BASH but takes failure as given. The example shows clearly how it works. Instead of ending up with PERL like scripts to catch all the possible errors you add two lines and you got a wonderfull small script, wich is what shell scripts should be, that is none the less capable of recovering from an error. This script will simply retry when someone knocks out the DNS again.

    This new language will not catch your errors. It will catch other peoples errors. Sure a really good programmer can do this himself. A really good programmer can also create his own libraries. Most find of us in admin jobs find it easier to use somebody elses code rather then constantly reinvent the wheel. qon

  143. I don't see why eveyone is complaining... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What do you lose by using something like this?

    Well.. besides pipes of course;)
    Variable redirection looks just like file redirection, except a dash is put in front of the redirector. For example, For example, suppose that we want to capture the output of grep and then run it through sort:

    grep needle/tmp/haystack -> needles
    sort -< needles

    This sort of operation takes the place of a pipeline, which ftsh does not have (yet).
    fs
  144. Blazingly high? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought these chips were supposed to have "good" performance while consuming a lot less power. zi

  145. Date in the story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    In reality most hours are the same length. Hotmail was down for a few standard-length hours.

    Anyone who's watched the "time remaining" during a Windows installation or a large file copy ("...but it's been 3 minutes remaining for the past half hour!") knows that Microsoft uses their own, superior standards for time measurement, rather than slavishly adhering to those obsolete SI units.

    Hotmail was only down for 10 MS-minutes. ay

  146. "Should" is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    pretend this guy was cybersexing your prepubescent sister, (etc etc etc)

    You do realize, this is one of the weakest arguments you can possibly make. "Forget all intellectual arguments, precedent, centuries of commonlaw. If this happened to YOU, you'd want him hung! So it's OK to hang him!"

    Try giving a few of us the benefit of the doubt that we DO value the system and won't automatically join the lynch mob at the first chance. Or, failing that, how about the idea that the entire purpose of having *impartial* judicial systems is to make sure that the victims DON'T turn into blindly self-serving mobs? lf

  147. Yes and no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the silos on the 'net have been older Atlas silos. Very, very few of the Titan I silos ever got into public hands AND have no apparent water seepage into any parts of the building (Typically, the actual missle bays would fill up with water because of location- they'd sump pump it out, but with them being abandoned...).

    If it's for real, it's something somewhat special. The last one that went up was some 2-3 years ago in Colorado. nh

  148. marketing survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About 6 months ago I was on the phone to some marketing company who were doing a survey on Yukon and whether or not I was contemplating deploying it.

    I said no because:

    1) it was too tighly integrated into AD/ windows server and we didn't any of that.
    2) I didn't trust it, and wouldn't till it had been in the field for at least a year.

    I think they got alot of responses like 2) (going by the marketers comments) and they prob decided to wait till the new windows server is out (2006??) and deploy on the new Trusted Computing Base thing they are wittering on about.

    rn

  149. Lesser-known cases that have a big impact on law. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Godwin - Lots of/.ers follow the SCO case, followed the DeCSS, Napster, IP, CIPA, etc. What are some lesser known cases/laws that you forsee as having a large potential impact on 'cyberlaw' as we know it? fdb

  150. Predictable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why am I not surprised Microsoft claims its an internal problem?

    Actually, it would make more sense when Microsoft would claim it was an attack. Internal problems can be blaimed on the company (bad software design, bad system administration, etc.), external attacks can't, only for a lack of security or something like that. But in most cases, a company gets away quite well with an external attack. kqc

  151. very good coffee? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At long last the secret of Starbucks' "very good coffee" is revealed: burn the holy living shit out of your beans!

    Now you, too, can have that wonderful taste of charred coffee in your very own home!

    keq

  152. No reason to force them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a good idea. It happened with IE and should happen with any other Windows endorsed products. There is no reason to ship them pre-installed. The argument that GNAA/Linux do that is false because XMMS and The Gimp are seperate entities from the distribtuion. mck

  153. Back to grade school for retraining... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, they switched back in 1999; Pluto is again further away than Neptune. ou

  154. Legitimate scientific value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since this phenomenom only lasts for a short period after the beer is poured, they must have had to pour a lot of beers to allow detailed analysis. It would have been a shame to let it go to waste wouldn't it?

    Next we'll see an academic doing a research paper on the marketing techniques used by pr0n sites.

    hnk
  155. Defense from asteroids? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could we eliminate any risk of being hit by an asteroid by reclassifying everything as a planet? tfx

  156. Slow Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've found that provided the system have a good amount of memory, a pentium 2 is good enough to run most applications.

    I've been tweaking an older PII laptop (400MhZ, 192M) over the past few months. The idea was not to lose any functionality or "new" features (i.e., dropping a 2.2 based distro, the PII's contemporary OS, would be cheating). So far I'm extremely pleased. The machine is very functional, even faster in some respects than a newer Thinkpad T22 (800MhZ, 256M) because the video support is better.

    The main changes:
    * 2.6 kernel -- huge difference
    * Fluxbox instead of KDE/Gnome
    * NPTL
    * Rebuilt some apps with i686 optimizations
    * Config tweaks (default services, buffer sizes, etc)
    * Application substitutions (Firefox vs Mozilla, etc)

    I've been testing other things including:
    * Default fs (reiserfs vs ext3)
    * sshd default configs (blowfish vs des, etc)
    * MP3 vs OGG (about the same CPU, but I hear MP3 is nicer)
    * Adjusting timer resolution in kernel
    * Replacement syslog that batches writes

    ur

  157. Market choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Formatting textual output &/c, in TeX is a little more adaptable for a human being, as TeX and the actual, literal, written text are pretty much close.

    However, for music, most musicians are most comfortable with writing music down in conventional music notation. Conventional music notation, in comparison, compared with LilyPond input are far apart. It's somewhat comparable to painting with a typewriter.

    I don't really find much wrong with Lilypond itself, but I don't think it'd work too well for manual input. But coupled with a decent GUI input mechanism, it would work well. xgl

  158. Cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC, the "10x better" means 10x lower failure rate. The wording almost seems meant to deceive. The idea is that if you misidentify 10 messages out of 100, the filter would only misidentify 1. Since you made 10x as many mistakes, the filter was 10x as accurate as you were. zf

  159. Warm heart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Somehow Transmeta will always have a warm place in my heart. Don't know why, but I really like the company and praise them for what they are trying to do.

    Really, why is this even slightly +5 Interesting? Fair enough that you love the company...they did employ Linus for a while after all, and this is Slashdot, so I guess that counts for something. But Transmeta is nothing more than a hyped up dot.com remnant that hasn't realised that it should have crawled away and died somewhere a few years ago. Transmeta overpromised and underdelivered. Its CPUs have never really carved out a niche, suffering from terrible performance, and negligible gains in power efficiency over mobile designs from Motorola, Intel and AMD. Too underpowered for a mainstream notebook, and too power hungry for a PDA or cellphone, Transmeta CPUs linger on in a kind of zombie state, appearing from time to time in strange Japanese systems like this Sharp Actius, itself nothing more than a pale imitation of an Apple 12" G4 PowerBook.

    You're entitled to your opinion. It's just -1, Clueless Linus Fanboy, not +5, Interesting.

    Thank you. vcf

  160. Coffee and music -- Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The biggest practical problem with selling custom CDs is that it takes time. I mean most of us get annoyed waiting for our 'coffee like beverage' from vending machines.

    In reality the casual-cup-time should nicely eliminate the percieved lack of instant gratification.

    ao
  161. Bug in the commenting system? by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 1
    Whatever it was, it still is. I still get a 503 from the main page.

    And I'm reading all comments on this article, but lots of 'm don't make any sense. There's always some noise, but in this case it looks as if comments on random articles get attached to this article. Maybe some server or software processing the submitted comments has gone cazy?

    1. Re:Bug in the commenting system? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      whew, i am glad you confirmed this, i thought i was losing my mind, and was ready to turn myself in to the local insane asylum...

  162. WTF!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What are they talking about!?!?

    I'm a gear head. I know lots of geeks who are gear heads. I, however, have never encountered a problem due to inability to access 'calibration codes'.

    I know that you can hook your laptop up to your OBDI/II based vehicle. What can ya do?
    -monitor telemetry in real time [RPM,Throttle position, timing, fuel inject pulse lengths, etc.]
    -read error codes stored in computer [terse format]
    -reprogram the computer[really the data on which decisions are made, not the heuristics themselves]*

    *You can't change stuff on earlier computers! Must be that we don't have the 'calibration code' to make a PROM into an EEPROM?!

    Seriously though! What you need to 'know' to fix a car is:

    Interface specification

    Table of error/condition codes and triggering parameters.

    Wiring diagrams, mechanical diagrams, parts lists, etc.

    how modern cars work

    From what I understand, the Interfaces are standardized [think ISO,IEEE, not RFC]. The error codes, and at least short descriptions, are available. The diagrams, etc. are available via repair manuals/KB Systems. I know that at least some manufacturers publish/authorize official such products. As for knowledge, can't legislate that:)

    What information is being withheld that makes non-dealer repair impossible?

    And what are 'calibration codes'? pbl
  163. Nice, which brings me too.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The idea of being to timeout and exception handle in scripts is a great idea......assuming you want to use scripts. I think most people end up resorting to Perl, Python or whatever for anything more complex. But perhaps with this facility Scripts would be more useful? But...now I come to a related topic. I build factory wide systems, systems which have eg. Automatic warehouses and whatever in the middle. I do a lot of stuff with VB6 not because it is fault tolerant but because it is 'fix tolerant'. During the comminssioning phases I can leave a program running in the debugger and, if it freaks out, I can debug, fix, test by iterating forwards and **backwards** in the the function that caused the hitch, and then continue to run were I left off. Many minor problems get fixed on the fly without users even realizing anything was amiss. In every other respect (syntax, structure, error trapping etc) VB6 is a disaster and not really suited at all to these types of progects, so the fact that I use it is a measure of how important this feature is. Like the fault tolerant shell, it is a 'non-pure' extension insofar as purists say it should not be neccessary, but in pratice it is a godsend. Anybody know an alternative for VB6 in this respect? tp

  164. RSS and RSS links are working by bob · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    RSS URLs e.g. http://slashdot.org/slashdot.rss and http://apple.slashdot.org/apple.rss seem to work, and it seems possible to load any valid article or comments.pl or article.pl URL e.g. http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=133791 or http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/12/23/22 59226&tid=155&tid=123, but the index pages e.g. http://slashdot.org or http://apple.slashdot.org all seem to be broken, I get mostly 503s and the occasional 500.

  165. Here we go again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    heh, you might want to take a look at this joke. [netfunny.com] ;-) xcu

  166. A successful migration? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    From the MS case study [microsoft.com] on converting Hotmail from FreeBSD to 2K:

    > Changing the operating system on each server should have
    > zero impact on day-to-day operations.

    No impact whatsoever....if you ignore uptimes :)

    > Under FreeBSD, bugs and memory leaks would often go
    > undetected because of the lack of tools. With Windows 2000
    > and IIS 5, the tools exist to optimize the performance and
    > truly understand exactly what the code is doing at all
    > times.

    Crikey, handy they've got all those tools to help them out (soooo unlike FreeBSD with all it's bug leaks). Looks like it's saved their asses this time round...
    </sarcasm>

    Microsoft: Where do you want go today?

    Customer: I want to take a rock solid service that has true customer value and turn it into a spam ridden, bug infested hole that doesn't work half the time and customers hate.

    Microsoft: Consider it done!

    hlw
  167. Do it like Fark by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good News! Toyota announces a robot that can play the trumpet!

    Still working on the cure for the common cold, world peace, and an end to poverty.

    ab

  168. unbelievable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without further independent research that confirms this data, I won't believe it... As my contribution to mankind, I will be donating my time to this endeavor this afternoon, right after work... anyone else care to volunteer? ehw

  169. What happened to the naming convetion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought planets were Roman gods. It's not even like we've run out of them. We can still find Vulcan (Mulciber if you want to avoid rabit Trekkies), Juno, Minerva, Apollo (You can call this one Phoebus if you want to avoid confusing it with space probes), Diana, Vesta.

    And that's before you start getting slightly obscure ones like Janus, Bacchus (Or Liber), Fanus, Quirinus, Pomona, or Vertumnus. jnw

  170. iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given HP's recent relationship with Apple on a rebranded iPod, does that mean that 1) the tunes sold in starbucks will be AAC and/or 2) that iTunes will be involved?

    oho

  171. I thought frivilous lawsuits were illegal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *EVERY* OS has had/comes with/includes a media player. It is a functional part of the OS to support the playback of audio/video sounds in everything from user-interface, alters, notifications and theme support.

    Heck, its even part of the mandated accessibility/disability acts for people who require audio/visual/tactile feedback.

    I for one preferr the free stuff then Real or even Quicktime.. atleast i don't have things popping up telling me useless facts (even after being disabled) or having mime type wars on my pc.

    I bought windows because it was easy.

    I bought linux and still do because it was powerfull.

    Each has there own use, but this has got to be the most retarded lawsuit i've EVER heard of. ze

  172. Market for video playing software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, but:

    1) The ability to use non-Microsoft products is obviously a good thing but that's very different from the absence of the Microsoft products being a good thing.

    2)We're not talking about MS selling a base version and an enhanced version. It will be a full version and a crippled version with functionality yanked out. With Microsoft having every reason to make it work as badly as possible.

    I want Mozilla and iTunes to work. I couldn't care less about whether the MS functionality on the system remains or not. This thing is such a pointless exercise I can't imagine whom they think it will benefit.
    sw

  173. Muscle Wire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds related to "Muscle Wire" special wires used in a field of robotics called "BEAM" to cause movement without motors. Basically they are wires made of different metals fused together so that they react to electrical charge by contracting. Some really cool insect bots made from them can be found here: http://www.solarbotics.net/bestiary/2502_walker_2m ot_gal.html Muscle Wire: Muscle Wires are thin, highly processed strands of a nickel-titanium alloy called Nitinol - a type of Shape Memory Alloy that can assume radically different forms or "phases" at distinct temperatures. However, when conducting an electric current, the wire heats and changes to a much harder form that returns to the "unstretched" shape - the wire shortens in length with a usable amount of force. rwy

  174. Could be a cool hosting facility! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    In the UK The Bunker [thebunker.net] is an old nuclear shelter turned into a secure webhosting facility.

    The guy who owns it wrote 'Stay Another Day' performed by East 17 and was a UK Christmas #1.

    Fact.

    No. This isn't about football.;-) awk

  175. Ceren Schmeren by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's Cinder [suicidegirls.com] lct

  176. Precedent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think that's the point... there are other laws as well that aren't the same as the states. For example here in Canada you are allowed to download MP3's... just not upload them...

    But if US law took priority we'd be extraditing lots of Canadians to be tried in US courts for copyright infringment even though it's perfectly legal here in Canada...

    Or something totaly different... it's legal to smoke pot here in Canada... if US law took priority then we'd be extradited to the US for enjoying a bud...

    Different countries different laws... why should we be arrested and extradited for laws of other countries if we broke none in our own? (And have never stepped foot in the other country even) That would be like arresting all those downloading pr0n and extraditing them to Iran or something because it violates Islamic laws of decency...

    Just my two cents...

    Addbo

    nn

  177. "If he committed no crime in his home country" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So how is an Australian held subject to U.S. law.. AFAIK... he doesn't have the right to vote in U.S. elections. So we would be holding him subject to laws in a country in which he has no representation.

    This just underscores my prediction on how the internet will eventually lead to world government. ti

  178. Mechanics for the 21st century by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to be assuming that this is not happening already. I wonder if that is true. I would assume that like mechanics, computer techs will give misleading or wrong advice some of the time either out of ignorance or avarice. gwt

  179. Where will the Boehemians sit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems a little techie for the cool, grungy Boehemians, reading their Kerouac. Where will they go? ka

  180. The solution - seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The solution to the spam problem is simple yet elegant - gambling.

    Every time you send an email you place a small wager on the line that the recipient wants to read your message. Something like 1 cent. If the recipient doesn't mind your message then they don't redeem your offer and it doesn't cost you a thing. However, if you're sending spam then the recipient cashes it in (or perhaps it is used to cover overhead costs of this system).

    If you send a legitimate email and somebody decides to be a jerk and cash it in then you're only out 1 penny. However, if you just sent 2 million of those unwanted emails you're screwed.

    This is better than the "small price" schemes because it doesn't cost anything. Well, unless you're A) a spammer or B) sending email to dickheads.

    This wouldn't replace SMTP, it would just be a layer on top. If you sent an email and you participated in this system then a third party would sign your messages and you'd be get a special verifiable header that the recipient could then treat as "likely ham".

    Anybody have a better idea? I didn't think so. :) nfi

  181. SQL Server 2005, Visual Studio 2005 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CNET News reported five days ago on the 10th that both Yukon and Whidbey would be delayed and their final names. They need that time if they are going to clean up the shit HTML and JS outputed by VS. Not that they will, that would allow people to use Firefox.

    The company said Wednesday that it has decided to push out to the first half of 2005 the delivery of the next major edition of SQL Server, code-named Yukon, and a closely related update to Visual Studio.Net, called Whidbey. Until recently, the company had said that both products would ship by the end of this year.

    The final product names for Yukon and Whidbey will be SQL Server 2005 and Visual Studio 2005, said Tom Rizzo, director of product management for SQL Server.

    Microsoft delays database, tools delivery [com.com] fyr
  182. License contradiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If your application is licensed under the GPL or compatible OSI license (learn more at opensource.org) approved by Backplane, Inc., you are free and welcome to ship the Backplane open source database with your application.

    followed by:

    If you power an application using the Backplane database that you market or sell, or use that application to conduct any form of online commerce (selling/buying products or services over a website) you need to purchase the Backplane Commercial License.

    The example given is if you run an email service from which you sell access to other companies, you must buy the commerical license.

    My question is, what if the program that provides the email service is GPL. Do I have to buy a commercial license or not? One of the great things about GPL software is that if it's an internal piece of software, you can mix proprietary and GPL code as much as you want, as long as you never redistribute the program to anyone.

    Also, how does dual licensing work with this? Can I license it under the GPL to myself, and then sell copies under another license to other people? Obviously THEY would have to buy a commercial license, but do I?

    Just trying to point out some holes in the licensing..

    Oops, just noticed the part at the end saying:
    NOTE: In any of these examples, if the entire application or service is 100% GPL compatible, you may use the Backplane Free License.

    But that still leaves open the question about dual licensing.. wqc

  183. I guess that'll show em. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm.. yeah, since a recent update I can no longer run a.out binaries from the 2.x era... but for as far as external packages and ports are concerned, thats about the first case where you can't get software for older releases to work with a current version using one of the compatxx packages.

    That said, some tools (esp those using kmem) should be kept in sync with the kernel, and when at it, why not just build a new userland, its easier then figuring out what you have to update.

    The concurrently developing BSD variatiens allow trying out a variety of low level solutions to problems while sharing a lot of their experiences.

    Such diversity doesn't really exist in GNAA/Linux despite its zillion distributions (which provide a lot of variation in user experience tho)

    of

  184. Sarah Brightman/Nathan Lane .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My vote for: Sarah Brightman as Arwen Nathan Lane as Sam Deborah Gibson as Galadriel Micheal Crawford as Gandalf Choosing Frodo would be difficult Are the actors going to have be on their kness the whole performance? eo

  185. Personal Usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *translation*

    Should BioWare/Atari pay for the new CD Rom I had to buy after upgrading Neverwinter Nights to v1.31, and subsequently making it impossible for my old CD Rom to read the disc because of advanced "SafeDisc"?

    *corollary*

    I own Neverwinter Nights, all 5 glorious discs of it. If, for some reason, my old and/or busted CD Rom refuses to give the executable what it wants because of SafeDisc, is it legal to bypass the "Do you have a legit disc" check? Is it legal to download a crack that does this for you because I can't speak hex?

    (On the Neverwinter Nights message boards, Atari says "no", BioWare says "We can't condone that action, but we're happy you purchased the disc (hint), but you can't link to cracks sites here")

    ~Will
    pwt

  186. Not that fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While I love their products, the slashdot title of "blazingly high" clock speeds is a little misleading.

    From the article: "A base configuration of the notebook includes the 1-GHz Efficeon processor, 512MB of memory, a 20GB hard drive, and a 10.4-inch display for an estimated starting price of $1499. Sharp will take preorders for the notebook as of Monday, and it will ship in April."

    So we are looking at around 1ghz. vtx

  187. Did history teach us nothing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This should be more obvious what is going on here.. There is no stronger lobby (maybe tobacco) than the American tradition of the automobile, if Congress passes anything it will be with their approval. These are the same people that passed DMCA & Patriot, don't be fooled into thinking they are EVER going to do anything that large, rich corporations wouldn't approve of.

    US Airline industry

    failing miserably..

    terrorists..

    Congress bails out whole industry..

    Industry still hasn't fixed business model

    MPAA / RIAA

    financially in trouble..

    blame pirates, hackers, p2p..

    Lawmakers pass all sorts of laws, Judges pass all sorts of sentences..

    Industry still hasn't fixed business model

    US Automakers

    future seems uncertain... floating 0% financing schemes

    blame the forced opening of proprietary interfaces, blame car-computer hackers

    Congress soon to bail out troubling industry ?? (or at least the retirement funds)??

    Industry still hasn't fixed business model re

  188. Code not very tolerant of my machine! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I finished building the shell after I changed the code that uses a non-standard way of printing the usage message, show_help() in src/ftsh.c. In emacs, I replaced ^\(.*\)\\$ with "\1", and then went back and changed the lines that did not end in a backslash, removed the beginning and ending quotes.

    Then it compiled (on Fedora Core 1).

    Then it failed the functions test, because my computer does not have the file/etc/networks. For a fault tolerant shell, it does not seem very tolerant of my machine! After sudo touch/etc/networks, make succeeded.

    Anyway, those were the only two problems, and now it's installed. Let's see if it's worth building into an RPM package. oga

  189. Why wouldn't I want windows to play back videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Want Microsoft DRM, non-compliance to standards, and who-knows-what in the future too? It's to avoid this that these sanctions are being applied.

    Sounds sensible to me qlq

  190. Questions about content by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a related question - do you think the Google cache is open to legal challenges the way it is currently implemented? yz

  191. SQL 2005 & VS.NET 2005 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What this article doesn't mention is that Visual Studio 2005 (formly known as Whitby) has also been delayed so that MS can release both products at the same time. (as VS.Net 2005 is supposed to be heavily integrated with the.NET features of SQL 2005)...

    The thing I don't understand is why VS.NET is being delayed like this, the SQL objects should be seperate and not integrated into VS.Net anyway! xfh

  192. Cars, DVDs, what's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the difference between the "turbo" and the "standard" engine is a software patch and $20 in parts.

    Gee, and here I thought it would be the presense of a _turbocharger_. Second post already that thinks a turbo is a piece of software rather than hardware. I don't know of anyone marketing a car as being turbocharged who isn't using a physical device called a turbocharger. [wikipedia.org] ms

  193. It's a Kuiper object... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No. Charon is slightly smaller than Quaoar.

    Sedna is over 4 times the size (volume) of Quaoar.

    Whether it's a planet is a silly argument, but even so, "we already have Quaoar" is really irrelevant.

    ja

  194. Paid for services down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Paid for services, such as MSDN subscriptions, were down as well. The real news is not that Hotmail was down, but that all Passport based services were having problems. MS has been trying hard to sell Passport as a "single sign on solution." This indicent does not help that marketing effort. This is not the first time that Passport has been out. In the past the passport domain expired and was rescued by a very nice person who registered the domain on a weekend, reinstating the service.
    ii

  195. News for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a great account for your junk mail! Then again so is Yahoo... but hotmail was the first I believe =)

    It is also my first email account (got it in 96) and so now people can still contact me after I've moved around the world.

    When a service like Hotmail and MSN go down for a few hours it affects ALOT (millions) of people... nerd included... why shouldn't it be on the frontpage? I know I was interested enough to click on the articles (though I agree they are sparse on details)

    Addbo ec

  196. The ACs are on fire! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man! The [slashdot.org] ACs [slashdot.org] are [slashdot.org] on fire [slashdot.org] tonight, with 4 / 6 of the +5 scores! voo

  197. LOTR: Riverdance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, Legolas's antics were not far off....

    cel

  198. No fucking chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't matter what you think. AU is one of a few countries that have agreements and treaties with the US which mutally allow the country to obtain criminals that seek refuge in a country. If the AU ever wants to be able to do that on their own with the US, they must comply. Besides, this guy isn't exactly innocent of crimes. You are not helping yourself by supporting a criminal. dd

  199. OT III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [Operating Thetan Level 3] BODY THETANS by L. Ron Hubbard® The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178 billion on average) by mass implanting.. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time. In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but only that given here is needful. One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body. One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small. Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error. Good luck. * * * For the purpose of clarity, by BODY THETAN is meant a thetan who is stuck to another thetan or body but is not in control. A THETAN is, of course, a Scientology word using the Greek theta which was the Greek symbol for thought or life. An individual being such as a man is a thetan, he is not a body and he does not think because he has a brain. A CLUSTER is a group of body thetans crushed or hold together by some mutual bad experience. ---------- Character of Body Thetans Body Thetans are just Thetans. When you get rid of one he goes off and possibly squares around, picks up a body or admires daisies. He is in fact a sort of cleared Being. He cannot fail to eventually, if not at once, regain many abilities. Many have been asleep for the last 75,000,000 years. A body Thetan responds to any process any Thetan responds to. Some body Thetans are suppressive. A suppressive is out of valence in R6. He is in valence in Incident I almost always. One can't run a human being on these two incidents since human beings are composites and would not be able to run the lot. Aside from that, non-clears are way below awareness required to even find these Incidents. Huge amounts of charge have already been removed from the case and the body thetans by Clearing and OT I and OT II to say nothing of engrams and lower grades. Awareness is proportional to the charge removed from the case. Although a human is a composite being there is only one I (that is you) who runs things. Body thetans just hold one back. You will continue to be you. You, inside, can of course separate out body thetans and so solo auditing is the answer. How good do you have to be to run body thetans off? Well, if you didn't skip your grades, Clearing and OT II particularly, you. should be able to'command body thetans easily. * * * Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up. Do not scan through the durati

  200. Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ship date news had already been reported by Mary Jo Foley, The reporter of Microsoft news, on the 10th.

    http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1 54 6601,00.asp

    Steven
    wlo

  201. Why wouldn't I want windows to play back videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but the idea is that the OEM does the video installation. Says that in the article:) kr

  202. Wow. Retarded! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GNAA/LinuxMusician.com!?!?!?

    I'm a penguin fan and all, but there are some things that should not be mixed. Like....

    Water and oil.

    Acids and Alkali

    Nucular [sic] weapons and George Bush.

    GNAA/Linux and Musicians!

    Music is not about the tool, particularly tools that aren't themselves musical. I mean, you *could* say: "ViolinMusician" but "GNAA/LinuxMusician" comes across to me like "GasEngineMusician" or "Cassette Tape Musician".

    Just dumb. Sorry. (It's late, Saturday, and I've had a few drinks. So sue me, or as Apple Computer would say, sosumi!)

    -Ben rkq

  203. whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank god I am out of elementary school. Memorizing 9 planets was hard enough, but 10! They have got to be kidding. sv

  204. What about Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... because Apple is not a monopoly, period. hf

  205. OT III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [Operating Thetan Level 3] BODY THETANS by L. Ron Hubbard® The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178 billion on average) by mass implanting.. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time. In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but only that given here is needful. One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body. One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small. Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error. Good luck. * * * For the purpose of clarity, by BODY THETAN is meant a thetan who is stuck to another thetan or body but is not in control. A THETAN is, of course, a Scientology word using the Greek theta which was the Greek symbol for thought or life. An individual being such as a man is a thetan, he is not a body and he does not think because he has a brain. A CLUSTER is a group of body thetans crushed or hold together by some mutual bad experience. ---------- Character of Body Thetans Body Thetans are just Thetans. When you get rid of one he goes off and possibly squares around, picks up a body or admires daisies. He is in fact a sort of cleared Being. He cannot fail to eventually, if not at once, regain many abilities. Many have been asleep for the last 75,000,000 years. A body Thetan responds to any process any Thetan responds to. Some body Thetans are suppressive. A suppressive is out of valence in R6. He is in valence in Incident I almost always. One can't run a human being on these two incidents since human beings are composites and would not be able to run the lot. Aside from that, non-clears are way below awareness required to even find these Incidents. Huge amounts of charge have already been removed from the case and the body thetans by Clearing and OT I and OT II to say nothing of engrams and lower grades. Awareness is proportional to the charge removed from the case. Although a human is a composite being there is only one I (that is you) who runs things. Body thetans just hold one back. You will continue to be you. You, inside, can of course separate out body thetans and so solo auditing is the answer. How good do you have to be to run body thetans off? Well, if you didn't skip your grades, Clearing and OT II particularly, you. should be able to'command body thetans easily. * * * Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up. Do not scan through the durati

  206. The Ballad of Matthew Dillon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There once was a fellow named Dillon,
    He cried, "That's not me!"
    "I use BSD!"
    "Because I find it fulfillin'."

    W hf

  207. I still prefer tougher email security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  208. What about linux distributions?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many distributions ship with software such as XMMS, mplayer and the gimp. Should Mandrake, SuSE, Debian and the like be fined for carrying this software?

    First: no one of those distributions has a de facto monopoly in the OS market and it's trying to abuse that position to get the monopoly in other markets, such as the media players one.

    Second: on the average GNAA/Linux distro, you have twenty different text editors, a dozen media players, and another dozen graphic manipulation programs.

    So, your is, indeed, a non sequitur.

    vb
  209. Very cool, but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And they had an advantage that Europe also got after WW2: Their manufacturing infrastructure was completely destroyed, so they had a chance to start from scratch with cutting-edge (at the time_) technology throughout the entire process. The US was (and is) still trying to maintain their much older and less capable facilities, since that was still less expensive than starting over and there was no carpet-bombing to force them into it. aqr

  210. The Tin Foil Hats Say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    As seen in this article [rense.com] featuring the testimony of Dr Carol Rosin. Dr Carol Rosin was the first woman corporate manager of Fairchild Industries and was spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun in the last years of his life. She founded the Institute for Security and Cooperation in Outer Space in Washington DC and has testified before Congress on many occasions about space based weapons. Von Braun revealed to Dr Rosin a plan to justify weapons in spaced based on hoaxing an extraterrestrial threat. She was also present at meetings in the '70s when the scenario for the Gulf War of the '90s was planned.
    • As practically a deathbed speech, he educated me about those concepts and who the players were in this game. He gave me the responsibility, since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization of outer space.

      When Wernher Von Braun was dying of cancer, he asked me to be his spokesperson, to appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak. I did this. What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to work with him.

      He said the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare tactics That was how we identify an enemy. The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to get us and control us-that they were "Commies."

      Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism. Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.

      The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it.

      Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.

      And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card.

      "And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."

      I think I was too naive at that time to know the seriousness of the nature of the spin that was being put on the system. And now, the pieces are starting to fall into place. We are building a space-based weapons system on a premise that is a lie, a spin. Wernher Von Braun was trying to hint that to me back in the early 70's and right up until the moment when he died in 1977.

    Be sure your Tin Foil hats are well grounded rc
  211. Actualy kind of sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a DBA who deals with MS SQL 2k (and 7 and 6.5) on a day to day basis (hour to hour basis?) I'm actually kind of saddened by this. I was really looking forward to playing with the TSQL/.Net paradigm shift as far as accessing data.

    7.0 was a huge jump from 6.5 and 2k from 7.0 was almost as significant of a jump. I will call a spade a spade and say that the evolution of the MS SQL server has really impressed me and I was looking for good things from this next version as well. I know this is the wrong place to say such things, but I've had lots of problems with other MS problems, but this one since 7.0 has been quite good. Don't even get me started on some of their other products though.:)

    I'll just go hide in my DBA hole until 2005 I guess. gdu

  212. i want one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Crusoe based Fujitsu P2110 and it's
    been great.... fast enough to do video
    production even. But I carry it with me
    everywhere and it's starting to wear out.
    This looks like the perfect replacement!
    uf

  213. Re:Is it me by alphax45 · · Score: 1

    The only way I can get in is via the RSS feed in Firefox

    totaly weird....

    --
    K Man
  214. OT III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [Operating Thetan Level 3] BODY THETANS by L. Ron Hubbard® The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178 billion on average) by mass implanting.. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time. In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but only that given here is needful. One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body. One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small. Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error. Good luck. * * * For the purpose of clarity, by BODY THETAN is meant a thetan who is stuck to another thetan or body but is not in control. A THETAN is, of course, a Scientology word using the Greek theta which was the Greek symbol for thought or life. An individual being such as a man is a thetan, he is not a body and he does not think because he has a brain. A CLUSTER is a group of body thetans crushed or hold together by some mutual bad experience. ---------- Character of Body Thetans Body Thetans are just Thetans. When you get rid of one he goes off and possibly squares around, picks up a body or admires daisies. He is in fact a sort of cleared Being. He cannot fail to eventually, if not at once, regain many abilities. Many have been asleep for the last 75,000,000 years. A body Thetan responds to any process any Thetan responds to. Some body Thetans are suppressive. A suppressive is out of valence in R6. He is in valence in Incident I almost always. One can't run a human being on these two incidents since human beings are composites and would not be able to run the lot. Aside from that, non-clears are way below awareness required to even find these Incidents. Huge amounts of charge have already been removed from the case and the body thetans by Clearing and OT I and OT II to say nothing of engrams and lower grades. Awareness is proportional to the charge removed from the case. Although a human is a composite being there is only one I (that is you) who runs things. Body thetans just hold one back. You will continue to be you. You, inside, can of course separate out body thetans and so solo auditing is the answer. How good do you have to be to run body thetans off? Well, if you didn't skip your grades, Clearing and OT II particularly, you. should be able to'command body thetans easily. * * * Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up. Do not scan through the durati

  215. What's DSPAM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From what I can tell, DSPAM plugs into your MTA as a local delivery agent, very much like SpamAssassin does.

    I couldn't see any platform requirements on their site, but here's what they say about MTA compatibility:

    DSPAM works great with Sendmail, Postfix, Qmail, Courier, and Exim, and should work well with any other MTA that supports an external local delivery agent.

    Hope that answers your questions :P ej

  216. Alcohol increases intelligence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    For any newbies: Apparantly your intelligence is increased by drinking alcohol, since it kills off your poor quality brain cells leaving more room for your high-powered brain cells.

    So kids, if you want to pass your exams, sneak into Daddy's Spirits cabinet and have a swig before breakfast. ur

  217. OT III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [Operating Thetan Level 3] BODY THETANS by L. Ron Hubbard® The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 years ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet - 178 billion on average) by mass implanting.. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos (incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken - in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged". His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc was placed in the unplants. When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people) captured him after six years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This liability has been dispensed with by my tech development. One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a time. In December 1967 1 know someone had to take the plunge. I did and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data now, but only that given here is needful. One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself or to the body. One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any preclear. Some large, some small. Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error. Good luck. * * * For the purpose of clarity, by BODY THETAN is meant a thetan who is stuck to another thetan or body but is not in control. A THETAN is, of course, a Scientology word using the Greek theta which was the Greek symbol for thought or life. An individual being such as a man is a thetan, he is not a body and he does not think because he has a brain. A CLUSTER is a group of body thetans crushed or hold together by some mutual bad experience. ---------- Character of Body Thetans Body Thetans are just Thetans. When you get rid of one he goes off and possibly squares around, picks up a body or admires daisies. He is in fact a sort of cleared Being. He cannot fail to eventually, if not at once, regain many abilities. Many have been asleep for the last 75,000,000 years. A body Thetan responds to any process any Thetan responds to. Some body Thetans are suppressive. A suppressive is out of valence in R6. He is in valence in Incident I almost always. One can't run a human being on these two incidents since human beings are composites and would not be able to run the lot. Aside from that, non-clears are way below awareness required to even find these Incidents. Huge amounts of charge have already been removed from the case and the body thetans by Clearing and OT I and OT II to say nothing of engrams and lower grades. Awareness is proportional to the charge removed from the case. Although a human is a composite being there is only one I (that is you) who runs things. Body thetans just hold one back. You will continue to be you. You, inside, can of course separate out body thetans and so solo auditing is the answer. How good do you have to be to run body thetans off? Well, if you didn't skip your grades, Clearing and OT II particularly, you. should be able to'command body thetans easily. * * * Incident II is over 36 days long. Capture on other planets was weeks or months before the implant. Those on Teegeeack (Earth) were just blown up except for Loyal officers who were (shortly before the explosion on Earth) rounded up. Do not scan through the durati

  218. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. gra

    1. Re:I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess this guy must be a bush following asshole...

  219. i want one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Crusoe based Fujitsu P2110 and it's
    been great.... fast enough to do video
    production even. But I carry it with me
    everywhere and it's starting to wear out.
    This looks like the perfect replacement!
    pef

  220. Just go out and buy one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This project is only economical if you have old laptops sitting around. If that's the case, you probably won't have enough CPU/RAM to install the latest version of debian.

    I have built picture frames out of old pentium-class laptops ('bout $100 off ebay, or cheaper if you shop around your own town), and they have no problems running the latest Debian. Just don't run X!

    I use zgv [svgalib.org] to cycle through the pictures. Works great, *and* is less filling. xos

  221. Planet is not a useful category. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The concept of Planets should no longer be regarded as a formal (as opposed to colloquial) classification. We have four rocky inners, four gassy outers, and a vast number of planetismals. Forming a group of the first two classes, with or without a few of the last, is a false classification. vxr

  222. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. nei

  223. It'll work, because they aren't a record store by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This will work, while the "create-your-own-CD-in-the-record-store" ideas have all failed. Why? Because coffee stores don't sell stamped music CD's. Music stores do sell stamped music CD's. Every burnt CD a music store sold was probably a loss of three stamped CD's they might have otherwise sold.

    Who loses in the end? The music stores, anyway. qc

  224. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. qk

  225. Bah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's STILL just an " automated press-deleter".

    No matter what technology it uses, neural nets, b-trees, recursion, tinkertoy logic [rutgers.edu], smell-emitting diode, leaky junction zener transistor, steam-powered aeolipiles, it only automagically presses delete, which is a pretty lame way of fighting spam.

    It's a lame way of fighting spam, because, we STILL have to pay for the fucking spam bandwitdh; we STILL have to pay for the goddammed disk space used by the spam; we STILL have to pay for the bloody time lost transmitting the spam; we STILL have to pay for the extra ISP infrastructure to carry those spams.

    Naaah. Spammers should be eradicated from the Internet, and the best way to do so is to completely BLOCK networks who host spammers (no matter what service), in order to force the collateral damage to whine to the ISP or simply vote with their feet. gh

  226. sliding down the glass.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey, remember linus signed some pretty odd things during LCA:)

    Yeah, my wife still refuses to wash her left breast.... kyw

  227. A step ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I, for one, am waiting for the day when we will not require hardware to be made from metals and other hard substances.

    Most devices/machines today depend heavily on a motors/engines/circuits that are not usually flexible and need to maintain a rigid structure. Sure, we try to cover/encapsulate these devices in a pleasing exterior (car bodies, plastic casings etc) in order to protect the hardware and us from the dangerous interiors.

    Imagine cars made up of soft cushiony/rubbery material, which bounces back to absorb a collision...the metal body can dent in and absorb the force of the impact, but it works only against collisions against other cars/hard objects -- not against collisions with humans/animals and other "soft" substances.

    Ofcourse, we could have a soft covering for cars, made of a cushiony substance, but the problem has been embedding circuits/machinery in the soft exteriors, because they tend to bend and damage the interiors.

    Nature has found the perfect way to create organs/pumps/filters/wires which are made out of soft tissue, and is malleable enough to survive severe tension/distortion and bending.

    Here's to hoping that one day we will be able to create soft fuzzy machines which won't be so hard on our water-bag bodies. lr

  228. Why is there a Windows compatible port? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, but I can't understand why a Windows port (even if not native) is even attempted. Seems kind of useless in a totally GUI environment. Of course, maybe it's just me? zcm

  229. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. rh

  230. Re:Is it me by tanguyr · · Score: 1

    do you think it could have happened at a worse time? Someone in support is having a shitty kickoff to their christmas weekend.

    --
    #!/usr/bin/english
  231. The real problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the best answer the 'If nobody would by this stuff...' argument was:

    Spam works on the level of 1 in 10,000. The general population contains a far higher rate of mental illness, senility, and retardation.

    You'll never cure spam by 'education' of any sort. There are some people who are just too crazy or too stupid to learn. hcj

  232. I wonder which will be more... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...overburned? - the CDs or the coffee? hb

  233. Warm heart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow Transmeta will always have a warm place in my heart.

    And Intel will always have a warm place in my lap.

    Seriously, though.... The new IBM X40 [ibm.com] is only 2.7 lbs with approximately the same battery life. The Transmeta only looks good until one realizes that it has a tiny 10" monitor. lc

  234. API availability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The advisory committee is expected to approve a remedy requiring the U.S. firm to share more of its protocols with rivals, charging a reasonable royalty. It will be left to Microsoft to work out the precise solution, with close oversight by the Commission, the sources said.

    If Microsoft is still allowed to demand royalties for sharing API's and protocols (no matter how 'reasonable'), the sanctions will still be useless to Open Source and Free Software developers. What good is this to the SAMBA team? And you can forget about Red Hat finally adding NTFS-compatibility to its distributions! >:( axl

  235. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. hh

  236. Standard oil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looking back at history I'm thinking about Rockefeller and Standard oil. How is that situation any different from Gates and Microsoft? Standard oil was broken up by the government why shouldn't we do the same now to Microsoft? Its irrefutable that Microsoft controls software for the personal computer from the operating system, office applications to now digital media/rights. Even before the SCO/Microsoft fiasco it was obvious that Microsoft devoured its competitors to preserve its stranglehold on the industry. yg

  237. I know you need to be paid for your time, but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't say that it's ridiculous.

    People don't understand computers. To many, either AOL works, or it doesn't. And, these people don't want to understand computers.

    Just like all people are capable of changing their own oil (or in your case, a wheel stud), it doesn't mean it's something that they want to learn how to do.

    However, just like with vehicles, there is always going to be price gougers (and those who do shoddy fixes to more extensive problems). In the realm of computers, with so few people understanding the depths of their operating systems, price gouging is even easier, as how man people really know what, "Kernel32.dll has performed an illegal operation (Insert long string of hex here)," means, or even how to find a solution.

    With vehicles, at least most individuals have a basic understanding (IE, they know that when a mechanic tell them the timing belt needs to be replaced but he's pointing to the rear differential that something is up.) jf

  238. 10th planet is more fun so it is in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Screws up astrology and that can only be a good thing. Lets add one every 2-3 years and watch them squirm.

    Anyway something 2000km in diameter is hardly small. Aren't astoroids that could kill earth just a couple of kilometers accross?

    Anyway excluding it is sizeist. Can't have that. If you are going to classify keep it simple. Object larger then a rock orbetting the sun and being close to round. I think that is what most people consider a planet.

    So welcome sedna. qp

  239. quality control, vocab, integrity, laughing fits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Manufacturer's demanding content changes is nothing new in the tech site community.

    Grammar checks, perhaps?

    Ah, quality site. Under the heatsink review section, "blow, suck" are used in the charts to describe positioning of fans. Apparently "exhaust" and "intake" are Big Words.

    The article on HardOCP is hilarious:

    Nobody likes a site that lies about a product just to suck up, right?

    These guys have become masters of doublespeak. Read any review and they consider "balanced" reviewing to mean "come up with some numbers to sell it, but whine about looks or included mounting hardware to seem balanced." Then there's the "whine about something, but then tell readers it isn't a big deal".

    Further- you can't have any "integrity" if you accept advertising dollars from companies who are selling the very product you're reviewing. Journalism 101- a course none of these bozos have ever attended. gxg

  240. Network Searching Programs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a question about the recent litigation by the RIAA against a handful of university students for running supposedly illegal P2P services. I'm a student at Rensselaer, so I'm more familiar with the service that was being run there, but as far as I figure it was the same deal at all the other universities as well. At RPI, the Phynd server searched all the computers that were sharing files on the network and indexed them so you could do a keyword search for files, similar to the way google works. From what I read of the case, the major point in the case was that the RIAA said that the service provided illegal access to copyrighted material because you could use the service to directly download material, via a hyperlink in the search results window; even though the service and the files were restricted only to students at Rensselaer. My question is how would their case have changed if all the service returned was just the address of the computer hosting the files? Thus after a person ran a search and decided on his own to manually type the address of the hosting computer to access it, would the owners of the phynd server have been held accountable since it would have been the miscosoft transfer protocols transfering the files. This seemed to be the big point in going after the students that it was their program that was directly facilitating the illegal downloads, and it seems like if the service merely indexed the files without providing direct access the case would have been significantly weakened. xh

  241. What about linux distributions?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many distributions ship with software such as XMMS, mplayer and the gimp. Should Mandrake, SuSE, Debian and the like be fined for carrying this software? mz

  242. Are Russian customers allowed there? =) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder, whether our Russian militaries can buy the complex to keep missiles closer to their targets?:) dik

  243. License contradiction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If your application is licensed under the GPL or compatible OSI license (learn more at opensource.org) approved by Backplane, Inc., you are free and welcome to ship the Backplane open source database with your application.

    followed by:

    If you power an application using the Backplane database that you market or sell, or use that application to conduct any form of online commerce (selling/buying products or services over a website) you need to purchase the Backplane Commercial License.

    The example given is if you run an email service from which you sell access to other companies, you must buy the commerical license.

    My question is, what if the program that provides the email service is GPL. Do I have to buy a commercial license or not? One of the great things about GPL software is that if it's an internal piece of software, you can mix proprietary and GPL code as much as you want, as long as you never redistribute the program to anyone.

    Also, how does dual licensing work with this? Can I license it under the GPL to myself, and then sell copies under another license to other people? Obviously THEY would have to buy a commercial license, but do I?

    Just trying to point out some holes in the licensing..

    Oops, just noticed the part at the end saying:
    NOTE: In any of these examples, if the entire application or service is 100% GPL compatible, you may use the Backplane Free License.

    But that still leaves open the question about dual licensing.. hul

  244. Yukon's promised features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yukon is finally going to deliver online restoration, database mirroring with automatic failover, and support for mirrored backup sets.

    Let's face it, these features isn't something most users need. If Microsoft sees real trouble, they will simply slash the per-processor license cost by a factor of 50 or 100, and switching suddenly becomes a non-issue for most users.

    Per-client licenses and awfully high per-processor licensing costs are the most important factor which motivates most users to attempt other solutions. Of course, the proprietary databases have important features which look very good on paper, but I've seen quite a few installations which use a multi-thousand dollar database as if it were MySQL (not even using online backup). You can get away with that if you only need a workgroup server license, but if you need 20,000 client access licenses (or multiple per-processor licenses), licensing becomes a problem and you'll certainly consider other options. wej

  245. Blazingly high? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it really all that much faster than the Crusoe? I've got a Sony Vaio C1MW with an 866 MHz Crusoe in it and it's just barely fast enough as it is.

    - A.P. yx

  246. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. fa

  247. except... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many business customers have recently been coerced into signing ongoing contracts where they receive any upgrades in a particular year in exchange for a yearly fee.

    These companies are going to be extremely p155ed off when they realise that all they are going to get for their money is (maybe) XP Reloaded (think ME).

    Companies cannot afford to throw money down the microsoft toilet for much longer... especially when all they get is extra bugs that they didnt need in the first place, coupled with a healthy dose of lock-in and increased support costs. tzw

  248. News for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The question is - how many nerds use Hotmail.com, and why does this non-event warrant a front page article? jlf

  249. Celeron comparison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does this chip compare with that other energy-saving chip, the Celeron?

    And more importantly, is there any reason you'd choose a Transmeta-powered rig over an Intel one? dbk

  250. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. aik

  251. Re:Is it me by tanguyr · · Score: 1

    replying to my own post, and that, but does anybody else think this is some kind of script thing? Comments are increasing rapidly, and (take a look)... even worse than usual, if you get my drift. I especially like the trolls that are pure slashbot with the exception of references to something called "GNAA/Linux"...

    or maybe i'm just paranoid. If it is, it's a shitty thing to do today.

    --
    #!/usr/bin/english
  252. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. ou

  253. i was talking to MS customer support when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i just got hung up on, and that was approximatly the same time on friday. i was trying to get an activation code for win xp when i was disconnected from them all together. i waited a while thinking that like all good cutomer support they would call me right back because i was hung up on, but waited half an hour and called them to try to talk to the guy i was dealing with, and they told me that they were having serious internal problems. im not sure how it works, but i think MS might use some kind of internal VOIP system because there was a delay in speech with th guy i was talking to as well, but hotmail and their tech support both went down around the same time as i was informed of "major internal problems." so something big happened.

    Lets get this stright. You -brought- windows XP.
    lu

  254. Re:Is it me by aldoman · · Score: 1

    looks like a major crapflood from the GNAA.

    I believe they are using the 'tor' p2p anonymous internet system, from my sources (antislash.org forums).

  255. Cars, DVDs, what's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "With that information, Territo said, independent mechanics and parts manufacturers could duplicate major components such as fuel injectors that automakers have spent millions of dollars developing."

    If the manufacturers spent millions of dollars designing parts and *didn't* get patents on those parts, then it's their own damn fault...and they have also failed their shareholders.

    If they had patented their expensively-designed parts, they would have zero problems with opening the specs for third-party repair shops and could still prevent third-party replica parts.

    bu

  256. "set -e" will go a long way to helping you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The article says:

    #!/bin/sh

    cd/work/foo
    rm -rf bar
    cp -r/fresh/data .

    Suppose that the/work filesystem is temporarily unavailable, perhaps due to an NFS failure. The cd command will fail and print a message on the console. The shell will ignore this error result -- it is primarily designed as a user interface tool -- and proceed to execute the rm and cp in the directory it happened to be before.

    That shell script can be improved a lot by using " set -e " to exit on failure, as follows:
    #!/bin/sh

    set -e # exit on failure

    cd/work/foo
    rm -rf bar
    cp -r/fresh/data .


    This means that, if any command in the script fails, the script will exit immediately, instead of carrying on blindly.

    The script's exit status will be non-zero, indicating failure. If it was called by another script, and that had "set -e", then that too will exit immediately. This is a little bit like exceptions in some other languages.


    nc
  257. OSS Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'd be surprised if any company of size would change something as mission critical as their DBMS due to this delay. To me, it says that they're going to get it right first time around.

    It's also worth the effort on Microsofts' part to get this right. After all, WinFS [microsoft.com] is going to be built on the same technology. oi

  258. login failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So as long as you're not logged on to /., you can load it just fine. No wonder AC reigns right now.

  259. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. sv

  260. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. wm

  261. not only hardware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    We believe that makes Oracle benchmarks very biased because the above benchmarks are supposed to show what a standard installation can do for a single client.

    Of course they are very biased. Since it rather hard to find any real-life application of RDBMS serving "sigle client".

    /sarcasm mode on
    And we all know how good MySQL at serving multiple clients with complex queries at once.
    /sarcasm mode off

    Neat quote tho, at least when you understand who is really biased:)

    /usd cd

  262. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. ryd

  263. Long-term investing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cost of advertising of a newly approved drug is a VERY SMALL drop in the bucket compared to the cost to develop and push a drug through clinical trials and all the red tape the FDA has constructed.

    Your typical drug, say Viagria, starts as a base compund. Normally there are over 100,000 or more base compounds that are tested and researched before even one compound is found that would be useful to market (and this is before the inital FDA filing, AKA Pre-EDC). Once the compound is registered with the FDA and goes under intensive developemnt there is much more money spent.

    On average development costs for a single drug can esclate into billions of dollars. Of course, if successful, a single good drug can bring enough profit to keep a drug company operating for years before the patent protection goes away.

    The reason drugs outside of the US are much cheaper is mainly thanks to the FDA. The FDA has massive amounts of regulations even after the drug is approved that regulate how a drug is manufactured and handled. These regulations even dictate how the drug company manages and runs its production computer networks and client systems. This of course adds A LOT of overhead when making a drug.

    Drugs coming from non FDA regulated sites (this is the kinda stuff you buy super cheap on the net) are much cheaper however knowing what the FDA regulations are and why they are there I feel much safer paying more money for an FDA approved drug which I know will be safe as opposed to a drug made at a non-FDA regulated site which may not meet the standards of saftey we have here in the states. mf

  264. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. yen

  265. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. lcg

  266. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. rb

  267. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. ymy

  268. It's got the concept backwards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    While, yes, you manage distributed systems from the center, you don't *push* updates, changes, modifications because, it doesn't scale. You end up having to write stuff like this fault tolerant shell which is frankly backwards thinking.

    Instead, you automate everything and *pull* updates, changes, scripts etc. That way if a system is up, it just works, if it's down, it'll get updated next time it's up.

    I won't go into details but I'll point you at http://infrastructures.org/

    ib

  269. European Patent Law by jmcharry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unless there has been a change since I had a minor involvement with it, European and international patent law requires that a patent be at least applied for before an invention is put into commercial service. Apparently putting an unpatented invention into commercial service is roughly the equivalent of publishing it. I believe this is different from US patent law.

    1. Re:European Patent Law by mpe · · Score: 1

      Unless there has been a change since I had a minor involvement with it, European and international patent law requires that a patent be at least applied for before an invention is put into commercial service. Apparently putting an unpatented invention into commercial service is roughly the equivalent of publishing it.

      Which should render that invention unpatentable. Ditto for a court judgment mandating publication, even if the whatever was technically patentable before (including where there was a patent application in progress).
      The only question would be if a court judgement trumps an existing patent. However Microsoft would need to specifically enumerate which patents they though were relevent in appealing parts of the judgment (probably to a higher court), which would effectivly publish what they wish to keep secret.

    2. Re:European Patent Law by back_pages · · Score: 3, Informative

      In the US, offering the invention for sale is certainly the equivalent of publishing it. From the date it was first offered for sale, you have 1 year to apply for the patent. If you wait longer than a year and the patent examiner discovers it was offered for sale, you are subject to a 35 USC 102(b) statutory bar which means your invention falls into the legal category of SOL regarding a patent.

    3. Re:European Patent Law by Bas_Wijnen · · Score: 1
      However Microsoft would need to specifically enumerate which patents [...] which would effectivly publish what they wish to keep secret.

      Isn't the whole idea of patents that the invention will not be kept secret? How can they expect to patent an invention and keep it secret anyway? A patent application must include details about how to build whatever was invented. That is why software patents, if they would be allowed, would require publishing of the source code (which makes it pretty much patenting a mathematical formula, and I think everybody agreed that that shouldn't be possible).

      Anyway, I'm getting off topic. As far as I understand patents, they can never be used to block publication, as publication is exactly what you need to sacrifice for getting a patent. In return you get a limited time monopoly. Claiming that you want to keep your patents secret is just silly. In that case you shouldn't have applied for a patent in the first place.

  270. I HOPE YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF TACO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taco, GNAA owns you. You cannot win. We will own your site in a violent homosexual manner. Bitch. vt

  271. Source of /. problems found? by Lord+Satri · · Score: 3, Informative

    There has been a major security issue with Slashcode revealed this week. See http://www.slashcode.com/article.pl?sid=04/12/20/1 946225. I hope today's Slashdot troubles are not related to this...

  272. Another less favorable explanation... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another possible interpretation is somebody, or some group of people, was so peeved by slashdot having linked to the website that they decided to DDOS slashdot by posting hundreds of AC comments all conveniently posted in this "problematic story" about software patents. How childish...

  273. Software interfaces by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As far as I can tell, the judge wasn't impressed with Microsoft's arguments, and ruled essentially that software interfaces should be openend up enough to allow competing implementations of protocols, even if these happened to be patented.

    And also that documents defining protocols or interfaces may be copyrighted, but that fact alone should not prevent competing implementations of such protocols. Read: perhaps a patent covered protocol, a copyrighted document describing the details, but still allow 3rd parties to make their own implementation of it.

    Microsoft may have many bases covered, but sometimes the interests of society to enable inter-operating software, weighs heavier than the patent/copyright interests of a company. IMHO a very balanced, and righteous decision. It doesn't prevent Microsoft from making money with implementation of such protocols, it just levels the playingfield a bit for other parties who want to do that as well.

    If a software interface isn't so crucial, one might say: let company have its way, and consumers choose alternatives if they want to. But with 90+ % market share, a software interface can become crucial, or leave no real alternative. A legal decision like this is good, simply for putting at least some limits on corporate greed and vendor lock-in.

    If you can't beat them, make them irrelevant.

    1. Re:Software interfaces by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      Patent number 123, a method for machine to machine communications over a network.

      The first machine opens a socket to the seconds and sends the message hello.
      The second machine replies with myprotocol v1.0

      End of patent.

      The problem is when the patent includes things like handshaking that must be implemented in exactly the way the patent says for them to work.

      --
      thank God the internet isn't a human right.
    2. Re:Software interfaces by ignavus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "sometimes the interests of society to enable inter-operating software, weighs heavier than the patent/copyright interests of a company"

      In theory, the interests of society ALWAYS weigh heavier than the copyright/patent interests of a company. Patents and copyrights only exist (in theory and law, if not in practice) because (and to the extent that) they benefit society. They are NOT an inherent right.

      The law allows patents and copyright in order to increase the number of inventions and works of creative writing. If it can be shown ineffective at reaching that goal - or even worse, counter-productive - then patents and/or copyright should be abolished.

      That is why software patents are bad news - they correlate with a decline in innovation.

      --
      I am anarch of all I survey.
    3. Re:Software interfaces by mpe · · Score: 2, Informative

      In theory, the interests of society ALWAYS weigh heavier than the copyright/patent interests of a company. Patents and copyrights only exist (in theory and law, if not in practice) because (and to the extent that) they benefit society.

      This is explicitally described in places such as the US. Even though this may not be explicit with in the EU the assumption behind any law is that it must be to the benefit of the society it applies to.

      The law allows patents and copyright in order to increase the number of inventions and works of creative writing.

      Actually it's to increase the number of these which are in some way "published". Inventions/stories/etc which only exist in someone's head are of little use. The idea of both patents and copyrights is to provide an incentive for people not to keep their ideas to themselves.

      If it can be shown ineffective at reaching that goal - or even worse, counter-productive -

      Or even simply redundent, either generally or in specific area's of human creativity.

      then patents and/or copyright should be abolished.

      Either generally or in specific cases. An alternative to abolition is to change these so as to work better. e.g. attempting to determine what is an optimal copyright term.

      It's a somewhat separate issue if courts have (or should have) the power to void or transfer ownership of copyrights and patents. Interestingly Microsoft is claiming that patents it does not even have (possibly have not even filed for) yet as a reason for failing to comply with a court judgment. Dosn't this mean that Microsoft is in "contempt of court"? Even that any patent office which continues to process the affected patent applications is also in contempt of court.

    4. Re:Software interfaces by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

      perhaps a patent covered protocol, [], but still allow 3rd parties to make their own implementation of it.

      Normally the sole function of a patent is to be able to block 3rd party use or implementation.

      YES! You have found the perfect compromise to the software patent confict! LET them patent logic/math/software if want, but make them unenforcable worthless patents with no effect whatsoever! Woohoo! I say we immediately make it law world wide! :)

      -

      --
      - - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
  274. Re:Source of /. problems found? by josh3736 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nope. The major security issue is a cross-site scripting vulnerability. Basically, you craft a special URL to /seearch.pl and steal the password of those who click on the link. This is just a shitstorm of AC spam DDOSing the site. (I thought FormKeys prevented this?)

  275. So What - Discovery is Unconditional no stalling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Court says produce - you must - basic law of evidence
    2) Contempt?
    3) Patent argument is spurious. In fact tabling them in court would be a good way to establish prior art - being on the public record.

  276. Re:Source of /. problems found? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That should be /search.pl, obviously.

  277. Anonymous Coward wants people of Iraq to die by Joseph_Daniel_Zukige · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    fighting Americans and putting themselves back under tyranny.

    1. Re:Anonymous Coward wants people of Iraq to die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ?
      like you've got patents, Sadam doesn't.

      you've got the death penalty, so did Sadam.
      you've got poor people, well Sadam didn't.
      You've got payola oil, in Sadams Iraq all the oil companies were owned by the people not the person.
      You've got Bush, Iraq had a super gun.
      Americal intelegence(oxymoron) says that Iraq has WMD, Iraqi intelegence says it doesn't, what the fuck are you going on about.

      Bush says, 'look you fuckers muhamad isn't the decendant of Abraham, god told me last night, die, fuckers, die.'

  278. What the fuck are you talking about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And how did you manage to get an "insightful" from drug induced rambling?

  279. testing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    testing AC posting.

    1. Re:testing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, AC posts YOU!

  280. As for Microsoft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The original intent of patents was to allow them to be freely published, but protected for a limited time. What, again, is the problem with communication protocols being patentened in light of a requirement to publish said protocols?

  281. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    US patent law requires that the thing being patented not already be in common use.

  282. Microsoft will fight Linux with patents by zagatka · · Score: 0

    that it will begin filing by the thousands next year. Just you watch.

  283. Iraq != Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Iraq war is not about terrorism. Saddam was a dictator and had to be put out, that's one thing, but there's no link between Iraq and Al-Qaeda. Except if you trust the American point of view. This war was planned long before 9/11 and has nothing to do with this tragedy.

  284. Makes you wonder... by Unipuma · · Score: 1

    Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it...
    Why was there such a big push to get software patents through in the EU before the end of the year, why was the dutch deligation applying pressure on Poland to accept software patents without a vote?
    Could it have been related to the judgement date of the Microsoft appeal?
    Through court actions, Microsoft postpones having to give more information about their protocols, until Software Patents are safely in place, to turn their punishment into a completely ineffective slap on the wrist.

    1. Re:Makes you wonder... by Incadenza · · Score: 1

      Why was there such a big push to get software patents through in the EU before the end of the year, why was the dutch deligation applying pressure on Poland to accept software patents without a vote?

      Simple non-paranoid answer: because the EU presidency rotates through all the member states, and each country wants to make the biggest impact (reed: most treaties, laws etc.) when they have presidency. The Netherlands has one week left...

      So, another case of a government with tiny brains and big ego's.

    2. Re:Makes you wonder... by johannesg · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The Dutch government has an unhealthy need to support american companies. That's why we are in the JSF project, instead of the Eurofighter, and that's why we were having secret talks with Microsoft about long-term contracts for a quarter of a million government desktops. Personally I would _very much_ prefer that such money would be spent on the local economy, creating European jobs instead of sending ever more money over the atlantic.

      Anyway, I still STRONGLY believe that Microsoft is currently in the process of building up patent legislation around the globe. Once this is in place in the major markets, it will then come out and utterly crush specific open source projects: Apache, Open Office, Mozilla, and Samba, to name just a few likely candidates.

      And as I said before, chances are they will actually leave Linux alone. They will just make sure you won't have any software to run on it...

      The timing of events appears to be fortuitous for people who do not want to see this happen, and bad for Microsoft, but the threat remains real. Meanwhile, Microsoft is on a tight schedule, since eventually Open Source will destroy them. Before that happens they must set their patent attack in motion, limiting themselves to just the US (and other territories that allow software patents) if necessary. We need to hold on until then - once the attack starts we will be safer since the destructive effect of software patents will be far easier to see.

  285. Bill Gate's Christmas dampened this week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So it looks like the plan was:
    1. Get the Judge to OK the MS penalities, but leave it so
    that all the protocols, including SMB, could still
    be patented and under MS's control.

    2. Sneak in Software Patents during the holidays after
    having bought off some of the key EU Ministers.

    3. Well, no step 3 is really needed, if you've got the
    other two.

    4. Profit.

    We haven't heard the last on Software Patents in Europe, by
    *any* means. The only real surprise is how critical this is
    to Microsoft's plans for control of the markets.

    And things are going to get interesting here
    in the States, as soon as it's to Microsoft's advantage to
    publicize the Patents they are about to unleash.

    They'll keep quiet though, until the EU debate is over.
    But watch out afterwards.

  286. Poland by sonictheboom · · Score: 1

    come on /.ers http://thankpoland.info/ is still up - go and sign your name.

    1. Re:Poland by ThaReetLad · · Score: 1

      I did, and this is what I said:

      I'm a software developer on a project containing nearly a million lines of code. The thought that at some time in the future I would have to search through a mountain of patents to check that every single line of code is non-infringing is terrifying. It would be like allowing novelists to patent plot devices, or a sentence structure that has a particular emotive effect, and so I thank you and our Polish friends for having the courage and principles to stand against the forces of lawyers and big business. They want to take the joy out of what is essentially a cooperative and artistic job, which just happens to produce a product that can make some people very rich (but usually not the people who actually have the talent).

      --
      You can't win Darth. If you mod me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine
  287. Courageous act? by peterprior · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why must it have to be such a courageous act? Shouldn't it be more an act of common sense?

    1. Re:Courageous act? by Builder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doing the Right Thing(tm) in politics these days is a career death sentence more often than not.

    2. Re:Courageous act? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Courageous because they're going to get fucking shafted by all the other money grubbing member nations.

      (Yes, I am a European, just an angry one)

    3. Re:Courageous act? by BBird · · Score: 1

      A little bit more courageous than the pussy settlement of the Bush Admin 3 years ago.

  288. How about... by JNighthawk · · Score: 0

    You're a fucking idiot who doesn't respect other's beliefs? My belief in God doesn't effect you in the least, so how about you back off and stop trying to call me mentally damaged?

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    1. Re:How about... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 2, Interesting
      My belief in God doesn't effect you in the least, so how about you back off and stop trying to call me mentally damaged?

      You sir are a prime example of what I am talking about. What religion are you? Christian? Muslim? If so, in case you didnt notice a Christian White House is waging a religious crusade on a muslim Arab nation. Who in turn wage Jihad on the USA. Jewish? I am certainly impacted by actions of religious fanatics in Israel as well as Zionists in my own country. Would you care to be more specific because it is without fail a hallmark of nearly every religion to stick its nose into other people's affairs and try to dictate laws for them.

    2. Re:How about... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      Do you believe in this religion[Sikh], or this one [jewish],or this one [christian] or this one[muslim].

      If so then it affect me and millions of others every single day of my life.

      If not then well done, I'm glad you found 'God' on your own.

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    3. Re:How about... by jsebrech · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're a fucking idiot who doesn't respect other's beliefs? My belief in God doesn't effect you in the least, so how about you back off and stop trying to call me mentally damaged?

      OK, I know people who believe can believe strange and illogical things, but that is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that people who have faith don't influence the lives of the atheists and the agnostics? How about the hundreds to thousands of "morally" inspired laws which make no sense from a non-believer point of view, like the ban on gay marriage? How about the requirement to hold a christian-style faith (or pretend you do) before you can credibly be elected to a national public office (name me a muslim or openly agnostic senator, I dare you)? How about the immediate social stigma you gather in tons of circles when you admit to not believing in God?

      It would be easier to have respect for the faithful if they had any respect for the non-faithful. As it is, a lot of faithful not only do not respect those who choose not to hold that faith, but actively attempt to enforce religious dogma onto those people. Like trying to replace the reality of evolution with the dogmatic fiction of creationism. (This, incidentally, is where the "mentally damaged" remark comes from. Denying reality is a hallmark of the insane.)

      Let's be honest here, you're not being true to your faith if you're not actively trying to turn people who don't believe (since almost all faiths require this). So the better a believer you are, the more likely you are to be affecting the life of the person you replied to.

    4. Re:How about... by TheOldFart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What is really funny about this, is that they contradict the same believe system they swear by. I'm specifically speaking of Christians here, the weird evangelicals who are taking control over this country.

      I'm really tired of seeing these idiotic bumper stickers proclaiming their love for Jesus as if you don't, you don't deserve to live. From what I know, what Jesus tried to tell people was to have love in your heart, be tolerant, inclusive, care for others, etc. These people are anything but that. They have nothing but deep hate for those who aren't clone of themselves, they are extremely intolerant, highly exclusive, and don't give a fuck about you unless you belong to the same clan as they do.

      This, by the way, is a verbatim description of the radical Muslims they so specially hate.

      Go figure...

    5. Re:How about... by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      How about I'm not part of a religion? I don't care whether I'm being "faithful." I know there is a God. However, what I said still stands true. MY belief in God does not effect you in the least.

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    6. Re:How about... by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      Way to go trying to categorize me, I'm none of those. I believe what I believe and I don't need others to tell me. You are an ass who can't accept the fact that my beliefs do not effect you in the least. Maybe Bush's do, but mine don't.

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    7. Re:How about... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      1: How do you know there is a God?
      Or to put it another way, if no one had ever told you about 'God' would your belief be the same?

      2: Given your belief in God I can only assume that you try do things you believe that your God would find acceptable, things you believe to be moral. Do your actions truly effect no one and nothing else?

      3: If that is the case then why do you believe in a God, just believe in yourself as that's what you appear to be doing. Next time put I believe in myself in the religion box, not God.

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    8. Re:How about... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 2, Funny
      I believe what I believe and I don't need others to tell me. You are an ass who can't accept the fact that my beliefs do not effect you in the least. Maybe Bush's do, but mine don't.

      Right. You are a member of a one-man, non-violent, non-expansionist religion which does not require of its disciples to convert hethens nor to preach its tennents to anyone. I am dying of curiosity as to its name. Is the holy book written yet or are you working on it?

    9. Re:How about... by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      You'll never understand. Go back under your bridge.

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    10. Re:How about... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, I've just read you post properly.
      I believe you are using the word God when you really mean 'something I don't know'

      Don't use the word God, next time admit that you don't know.

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    11. Re:How about... by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      1: How do you know there is a God? Or to put it another way, if no one had ever told you about 'God' would your belief be the same?

      Faith is believing without proof. And I honestly don't know if I would believe in God if I had never heard of Him before.

      2: Given your belief in God I can only assume that you try do things you believe that your God would find acceptable, things you believe to be moral. Do your actions truly effect no one and nothing else?

      No, I do what *I* find acceptable. I believe I'm a good person and I do good things. Of course, everyone's actions affect other people, but that wasn't my point.

      3: If that is the case then why do you believe in a God, just believe in yourself as that's what you appear to be doing. Next time put I believe in myself in the religion box, not God.

      I believe in God because I don't believe the universe can just exist.

      Understand: I don't care what you believe. I really don't. You and IgnorusMaximus or whatever don't need to be asses to say you don't believe in God. You still need to respect, or at least not be hostile, to someone else's views.

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    12. Re:How about... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      So, you believe that the universe just can't exist, but that God can.

      Belief is not knowing if you believe then you are saying you do not know.

      I'm not being hostile, I'm trying to help. If you accept that the universe is not the work of God maybe you'll try to find out what the universe is which can only be a 'good' thing.

      I wouldn't say you believe in 'God' in the sense that most people say that they believe in God and I wouldn't have a problem if everyone that believed in god had the same kind of belief as you have.

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    13. Re:How about... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 3, Funny
      You'll never understand. Go back under your bridge.

      But of course I will never understand your particular flavour of delusion. These types of things are always personal affairs. But there are some general patterns that apply here since this particular path was traveled by countless victims before you. Like for example:

      • How did you come to know "God"?
      • What gave you the idea that it/he/she is called "God"? Why not "Bob"?
      • Is it really "God" as in omnipotent, omnipresent creator of Everything? Or perheaps an out-of-work, lesser deity pretending to be Him (Her? It?) while the real boss is out golfing?
      • How does your deity communicate with you? Since it appears it is your personal religion and thus you must have a direct pipeline. I certainly hope the answer isn't "voices" or similiar otherwise I would suggest immediate medical attention.
      • What is the moral code your deity dictates? How do you propose to carry it out without affecting others, like me for example? (A point of note here: your religion has already and directly affected me: I am wasting my time trying to talk sense into you after you made your assertion to the contrary)
      The list goes on. Allthough thats unlikely, I hope this little sample illustrates to you the extent of your folly.
    14. Re:How about... by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      Well, then, what you say is wrong. I do believe in God. Perhaps others believe in something else.

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    15. Re:How about... by back_pages · · Score: 0, Troll
      OK, I know people who believe can believe strange and illogical things, but that is ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that people who have faith don't influence the lives of the atheists and the agnostics?

      And you appear to be an atheist or an agnostic attempting to influence the life of a person with faith. Your point, had you one, equally demonstrates how out of line you are with your own tirade.

      How about the immediate social stigma you gather in tons of circles when you admit to not believing in God?

      Calling special attention to yourself as a minority doesn't make your life easier? Oh my gosh, you should write a book! I think you have stumbled upon some true wisdom that could really help people!

      It would be easier to have respect for the faithful if they had any respect for the non-faithful.

      Your post leads to the implication that it's easy to have respect for the non-faithful while you show disrespect to the faithful. It's almost as though you're implying some sort of inherent status possessed by the non-faithful that grants them an ethical superiority, a status that only truly exists if you have believe it hard enough. You ought to include something about this in your book, and ascribe the source of this special status to some unseen, intangible concept that steers the universe. Afterwards, you could hold weekly book club meetings and take donations.

      Let's be honest here, you're not being true to your faith if you're not actively trying to turn people who don't believe (since almost all faiths require this). So the better a believer you are, the more likely you are to be affecting the life of the person you replied to.

      Ah, clearly we're dealing with an expert, and one who feels no qualms about dictating what other people should or should not do, while preaching that influencing the lives of others is reprehensible. A prophet of convoluted hypocrisy!

      And look! An "Insightful" point bonus! Peer moderation has confirmed that Britney Spears is award winning music, Keanu Reeves is a great actor, and jsebrech is Slashdot's very own ethical compass! I, for one, am completely convinced you're not full of crap.

    16. Re:How about... by Alsee · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe in God because I don't believe the universe can just exist.

      I believe in the universe because I don't believe god can just exist.

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    17. Re:How about... by Bas_Wijnen · · Score: 1

      Your parent never said he didn't influence religious people, he only said that your claim that "My belief in God doesn't effect you in the least" was nonsense. And I think he made some pretty good points supporting it.

      Of course, claiming that religious people are sick, and religion is a virus, does indeed imply that atheists are superior to others. Additionally claiming that this sickness is not curable means that there's nothing you can do about that. It doesn't surprise me at all that people are not going to believe that about themselves. However, it does seem similar to smoking to me, where people think they do it because they like it, but all doctors agree that it is in fact an illness (called addiction). The problem with such things is that you can no longer trust your own thinking. Realising what that means will likely make you insane, though.

    18. Re:How about... by Bas_Wijnen · · Score: 1

      Hahahaha! Good one. You do realise that words are nothing more than their definition? If you have a different definition from the rest of the world, it would be good to start using other people's definition, to prevent communication problems. Which means you don't believe in "God", but you do believe in something else (which I shall leave undefined, as it is irrelevant for this discussion).

      Of course I know very well that there are no two people with the same definition of "God", but yours seems to be so far off the average that it would be wise to use a different word.

    19. Re:How about... by oliverthered · · Score: 2, Funny

      printed that off and gave it to my christian friends.
      Merry Christmas, thank you.

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    20. Re:How about... by Shajenko42 · · Score: 1
      My belief in God doesn't effect you in the least
      Generally, this is true. As long as you make sure to restrict your religion to yourself and those who consent to being affected by your relgion, do what you want.

      However, the snake handlers can't accept this. They want to force their beliefs on everyone else. As soon as they do that, it becomes a public matter.

      For instance, a great many people have decided to support Bush because he's outwardly religious. *BAM*, public matter, we get to criticize their religion and their application of it.

      So here's how things are: if you and your religion can't take even the slightest criticism, I'd suggest you keep it private.
    21. Re:How about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of disproving his statements, you just proved his points.

    22. Re:How about... by JNighthawk · · Score: 1

      "The slightest criticism" - It's one of the main facts of my life. No one even attempted to be polite about my beliefs. No, they were assholes and deserve no consideration. "Keep it private" - I do. So leave me and God the fuck alone.

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    23. Re:How about... by Shajenko42 · · Score: 1

      Good for you.

      And I do think that one of the biggest problems is that when people talk about "religion", they lump everybody together - the snake handlers and the rational people. There's a lot of religious people who don't feel the need to force everyone to conform to their beliefs, and it should be made clear that they are not the ones we have a problem with.

    24. Re:How about... by jsebrech · · Score: 1

      And you appear to be an atheist or an agnostic attempting to influence the life of a person with faith.

      Your post leads to the implication that it's easy to have respect for the non-faithful while you show disrespect to the faithful.

      Oh no, an oppressed believer. Help me mommy, the evil agnostic guy is making me do things.

      At no point did I say anything that was meant as a command for religious people. Nor did I say I somehow malign or feel superior to faithful people in general. If you misconstrued my statements as such, that is your problem.

      Religious people have never been oppressed by the non-religious. It's so funny that the fear of agnostics and atheists dominating the lives of the faithful runs so strong when religious persecution in the past was always perpetrated by those with different religions.

      For the record, I have many friends who strongly believe in God (and base their actions in life on their belief). I respect their belief, because I can't prove them wrong. I just don't partake in it, since I can't convince myself any specific religion has it by the right end. (In other words, I'm on the fence waiting for a sign.) What I do not respect is when religious people try to control the lives of those around them, which happens a lot more often than non-religious people doing it. It's just that most of the believers are blind to the oppression their own consorts wreak on the world, because it agrees with their personal morality, so they do not see it as oppression.

      And what was your attack on me other than an attempt to shut me up? Where are the arguments against what I was saying? Seemingly lost in the long list of personal attacks and assumptions about just how much of a bastard I am. If I believed that those who are religious always must oppress the voice of those who aren't, you would be proof for my belief. Ofcourse I don't believe that, but hey, you can keep trying to convince me.

    25. Re:How about... by back_pages · · Score: 1
      Let's be honest here, you're not being true to your faith if you're not actively trying to turn people who don't believe (since almost all faiths require this). So the better a believer you are, the more likely you are to be affecting the life of the person you replied to.

      At no point did I say anything that was meant as a command for religious people.

      If you aren't even cognizant of your own comments, you undermine any point you might have wished to make.

    26. Re:How about... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      'It's almost as though you're implying some sort of inherent status possessed by the non-faithful that grants them an ethical superiority'

      Yes, you can join us.

      Talking to someone who believes in God is a bit like talking to someone who still thinks the earth is flat, I think that allows us to have some kind of 'superiority' over them.

      A religious person (well a monocastic one) can not say anything to me that will make me change my mind, not because I won't to believe them, but because what they say is not the truth in-fact I'm so confident that they are wrong I will disprove everything they say, without having to invent crap like the 'multiverse'.

      So, how's your faith today then?

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  289. Letter to Wlodzimierz Marcinski by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would like to take the time to thank you personally for resisting pressure from special-interest groups with a vested interest in pushing software patents. Software patents are slowly stifling our industry, and by extension muddling and retarding our technological advancement as a species.

    The original aim of a patents was to grant a *temporary* monopoly, for the express purpose of encouraging innovation by allowing inventors to bring a new invention to market without having to worry about plagiarism. Software is not an invention - is is more akin to an idea, which was expressely *not* patentable for most of the history of patents.

    The US has (relatively) recently begun to allow the patenting of ideas - software algorithms, "features" of software, even "business models"(!), and this has almost completely co-opted the patent system from an inventor support mechanism to a business weapon - "You do what we want or we'll sue for infringement". This was never the intention of patents, and patenting of ideas instead of inventions has mired the entire US technology industry in litigation, and made independant developers afraid to write useful software in case it infringes upon a patent they didn't even know existed.

    Add to this the US patent office's blatant inability to understand the industry, and terrible track-record on prior art (eg, people were able to successfully patent the idea of "hyperlinks", even many years after the web became mainstream), and you have a situation where patents are issued almost carte-blanche, and it is left up to the legal system to decide who owns what (which rapidly becomes a case of "who can afford the most justice"). If it's left up to the legal system to decide on patent claims, invariably the richest company or individual will succeed, and many (most?) smaller developers and inventors are simply priced out of the market - they can't afford to defend their patents, so they aren't worth the paper thay're written on.

    This devalues patents as a concept unless the holder can afford hundreds of thousands of pounds of legal fees. This leads invariably to a type of techno-feudalism: the rich and powerful can own all the (intellectual) property they desire, while the poor have no rights they can defend - their right to own (intellectual) property exists in name only.

    I doubt this gigantic and unequal division between the "haves" and the "have-nots" is the *intended* consequence of a decision to allow software patents, but it is the inevitable one.

    Many thanks for taking the time to read this letter, and please continue to resist pressure from all those who would co-opt our laws and statutes for their own selfish ends. You have the support of the technology worker (even if not the technology companies) behind you.

    <name>
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    1. Re:Letter to Wlodzimierz Marcinski by back_pages · · Score: 1
      Add to this the US patent office's blatant inability to understand the industry, and terrible track-record on prior art (eg, people were able to successfully patent the idea of "hyperlinks", even many years after the web became mainstream), and you have a situation where patents are issued almost carte-blanche, and it is left up to the legal system to decide who owns what (which rapidly becomes a case of "who can afford the most justice"). If it's left up to the legal system to decide on patent claims, invariably the richest company or individual will succeed, and many (most?) smaller developers and inventors are simply priced out of the market - they can't afford to defend their patents, so they aren't worth the paper thay're written on.

      I would ask why you are so proud of a "blatant inability to understand" the role of the patent office.

      I must presume you are an expert, since you brazenly share your opinions on the matter in a public forum, so I am quite certain you are aware that a typical patent application provides about $1,000 for the USPTO to do a prior art search. When an infringement lawsuit is filed, a corporate defense team will commonly spend $100,000 conducting a prior art search. Examiners at the USPTO are afforded 5-20 man-hours to do a search. To prepare for an infringement suit, it's common to spend 1000+ man-hours conducting a search.

      The circumstances surrounding the simple act of finding prior art seem quite clear to me. If the USPTO were expected by applicants and the court system to produce a perfect search of the prior art, then it only stands to reason that the cost of applying for a patent would be in the $100,000 range and there would be no reasonable chance of invalidating a patent in court.

      Of course, the end result would be the same. Weak patents would be invalidated and small companies with poor legal guidance would still be suckered into coughing up money despite doing no wrong. (The money spent on legal defense to invalidate a patent can often be recovered.)

      Regarding any specific example of a weak patent, such as "hyperlinks" or "one click shopping", I'd wonder why you don't mention the 1250-1500 patents issued by the USPTO on any given week of the year? It's really an easily defeated tactic of debate to point to something like 0.001% of a group and draw a conclusion about the whole. It might amuse you and like minded people, but there is not persuasive content in such an argument.

      Since I must presume that you are an expert, I ask how you would amend 35 USC 101 or 112 in order to "solve" the problem of claim interpretation regarding software-related inventions? Bear in mind that patent examiners have about 5 hours per application to assess the legal issues (outside of prior art). Unless you also propose a policy change at the USPTO, the examiners don't have the opportunity to drag a case through adjudication or arbitration, so your proposed amendments to 35 USC must cut like a knife through the issue with no ambiguity and no room for debate. (Good luck with that - if you haven't recognized already, this is a snare that I would be delighted to see you step into.) Also, the current backlog at the USPTO is, on average, 18 months. The USPTO is doing all that it can to reduce this, so make sure that your proposed changes don't undermine that project.

      Thanks for clearing this up.

    2. Re:Letter to Wlodzimierz Marcinski by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Regarding any specific example of a weak patent, such as "hyperlinks" or "one click shopping", I'd wonder why you don't mention the 1250-1500 patents issued by the USPTO on any given week of the year? It's really an easily defeated tactic of debate to point to something like 0.001% of a group and draw a conclusion about the whole. It might amuse you and like minded people, but there is not persuasive content in such an argument.

      if those 0.1% of patents allow whole buiness ectors to be terrorized then they indeed present a major problem.

      my personal belief is that copyright provided perfectly sufficiant protection for software and such software should not be patentable as well.

      another option would be to allow software patents only on condition that the full source code to an implementation was included in the patent.

      the us supreme court is an extremely powerfull and undemocratic institution that can change the law by changing how it interprets the constition (and in such complex things there is frankly a huge amount of leeway for different interpretations).

      also as you have said most of the costs of a proper prior art search are borne by the defendent. Is that really the kind of legal situation that is desirable.

      also patent applicats should not be allowed to change an application after submission.

  290. Polish translation request by bollow+(a)+NoLockIn · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Would someone be willing to translate the Thank Poland letter into Polish for me?

    I have a friend who's from Poland, but he's been away from writing anything in Polish for six years, so I think it's probably better if someone else does the translation and I ask my friend only to double-check the translation for accuracy.

    -- Norbert Bollow (contact information here)

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  291. Not quite peaceful by obender · · Score: 1
    In time, with patience and some work perheaps a peaceful, bloodless, transition to less totalitarian form of government ala Eastern Europe.

    It was as violent and as bloody as it goes. New cemeteries we made to bury the dead. The sound of machine gun fire was in the streets for days. And now fifteen years later the old comunists are still ruling as the new rich.

    1. Re:Not quite peaceful by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It was as violent and as bloody as it goes. New cemeteries we made to bury the dead. The sound of machine gun fire was in the streets for days.

      I am not sure which country you are referring to, I was thinking along the lines of Poland, Chechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary etc. But of course things could have been more violent than that. The main point was that they would have never gotten so violent as whats going on now and furthermore the entire affair would have been an internal Iraqi issue as opposed to being Crusaders vs Jihadists.

      And now fifteen years later the old comunists are still ruling as the new rich.

      You certainly didnt expect anything else, did you? A sharp division between the "ruling elites" (The Upper Class, The Ivy League Club, Old Boys Network etc) and common people is what the Western capitalism (particularly the US version) is all about. If you wanted justice and equality, you should have tried to mend and repair that old Communist bus which Stalin and crew left crashed in the ditch, maybe after some refurbishing and updating it might have gotten somewhere, providing the communists ceased to fall for the age old trap of trading real money for glass beeds with their arch enemy.

    2. Re:Not quite peaceful by obender · · Score: 1
      I am not sure which country you are referring to, I was thinking along the lines of Poland, Chechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary etc.

      I was referring to Romania

      But of course things could have been more violent than that. The main point was that they would have never gotten so violent as whats going on now and furthermore the entire affair would have been an internal Iraqi issue as opposed to being Crusaders vs Jihadists.

      You've never heard of the war in Jugoslavia? Nothing about Bosnia, Kosovo and the others?

      If you wanted justice and equality, you should have tried to mend and repair that old Communist bus

      This is like saying you're going to improve hell by installing an air conditioning device.

      The only example we have of egalitarian societies are monasteries. Somehow the top enemies of communism manage to live the promises of communism. Everyone else is just busy trying to be the richest one in the cemetery.

    3. Re:Not quite peaceful by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      You've never heard of the war in Jugoslavia? Nothing about Bosnia, Kosovo and the others?

      Of course I did. And you suggest that the current Iraqi situation is an improvement on those how precisely? Not only does it preclude the "peaceful transition" scenario but it also guarantees ethnic violence and massive carnage, far in excess of Kosovo.

      This is like saying you're going to improve hell by installing an air conditioning device

      Possibly. Keep in mind though that Communism (or more precisely Socialism as Communism never existed anywhere in practice) is merely a socio-economic system and does not preclude to be coupled with democratic form of government any more then Capitalism does. The fact that all attempts to install an alternative to Capitalism ended up with tyrants is an artefact of the violent process by which they were conducted, not the least part of which was the violence perpetrated by the ruling classes on the "filthy revolting peasants".

    4. Re:Not quite peaceful by obender · · Score: 1
      And you suggest that the current Iraqi situation is an improvement on those how precisely?

      I can not say anything about Iraq as my only information about their present comes from tv and radio.

      My complaint was about the misuse of the word (Eastern) Europe. We lie to ourselves saying that Europe is only the successfull part of it and conveniently forget about the rest.
      Poland, which according to similar reasoning not long ago was not in Europe, just showed more common sense than most. And they have a long history of opposing communism too, so we have more reasons to thank them.

      Merry Christmas!
    5. Re:Not quite peaceful by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      My complaint was about the misuse of the word (Eastern) Europe. We lie to ourselves saying that Europe is only the successfull part of it and conveniently forget about the rest.

      I fail to see how I misused that example. I was pointing out that a transition from dictatorship to some form of democracy was possible (even if it wasnt guaranteed) because it did happen in those countries. That was the only thing that was relevant in my example. I am not sure where your objection comes from.

  292. Christmas Chanllage (or chance). by oliverthered · · Score: 1

    What is God:
    God is something that has an influence over us but
    At the same time we must have free will.

    The Christmas challenge is, give me 1 example where this is true.

    An explanation of my criteria.
    1: If God does not effect us then there is no point in God in a present tense.
    2: If we do not have free will then there is no point in belief.

    If you think my criteria are wrong then please give me your description of God.

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    1. Re:Christmas Chanllage (or chance). by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      A nice thought exercise:

      Lets start with defining God, all powerful, all good, all knowing, perfect in everyway. Three basic aspects that most(all?) people of religion would agree with.

      Now, if this is true, why does God let bad things happen? Why let a small child be tortured? He is all good afterall, and he has the power to stop it, he must, he's all powerful, he can create a universe, surely he must be able to stop this tiny act.

      So, to argue back against it, God's gift to us was free will, he set us free upon the world both physically and mentally, we control our own actions, he merely started the ball rolling.

      But... If God is all-knowing, which he is, because he is the perfect being, then why would he give us free will? Why would this perfect entity, knowingly create a world full of horrors when it was in his ability to *truely* make a perfect world where everyone could be happy.

      It leaves two options, either God isn't all good, and lets horrific things go on when he has the power to stop them, in which case, God is a truely horrific person, and doesn't deserve our faith.

      Or more simply, God doesn't exist.

    2. Re:Christmas Chanllage (or chance). by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      No, more science.
      I can use science to account for almost aspect of my self, my toughts, the way I look, why I don't float off into space every single thing well apart from where did the sub-atomic particles come from if the first place.

      So say God created them, now for God to be all seeing and all knowing, but only a creator then he must have set us rolling knowing exactly what is going to happen.

      But then that means that we can't have free will and still be here, so God must have some influence in out Dayle liefs.

      But then I can already account for everything that we do and are using physics and a bit of maths without god's hand coming into play..

      So I can only assume that God doesn't exist..

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    3. Re:Christmas Chanllage (or chance). by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      define bad.

      I don't think you can, well unless you say.
      God is all that is God everything else is bad, and so must be evil.

      Now comes the big problem, So God all seeing, all ..... has an opponent the devil.

      This is why I think that single God religions are such a problem, they have God all good and they have evil that must be defeated so that God wins.

      What they miss is that if God is everything then God is good and evil, but then in that case why try to be good? God doesn't.

      Saying that God is everything also makes God become kind of pointless. If I kill someone am I Godly, Yes God is everything...

      Most religious people start by saying God is good, but end up telling you God is everything, which is argument lost in my books.

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  293. For a first time i'm proud for Polish politicians by lazy321 · · Score: 1

    Our politics are good at geting things apart, nice they found good use for this "skill" :)

  294. Re:Thought Viruses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've always suspected that most major religions where thought viruses. Ideas that self propagate... Not to say there isn't some truth to them, but if the idea weren't self propagating and destructive of other competing ideas then they would have died out with all others thousands of cults throughout history.

    Sadly, there is some truth to China's fear of foreign ideas. I seriously believe that if one really tried, they could create a thought virus that could make the majority of people go mad into murderous rampaging fiends.

    Although such talking could justify the fundies view that video games and music make kids into psycho criminals...

    Luckily such thinking is complex and combined with the massive amounts of desensitizing crap that shove down the US's throats as far as media... It won't really happen any time soon.

    Well... I could be wrong... I forgot about the thought virus, called "Nationalism", which has killed more people than religion in a shorter period of time. Luckily Europeans have a fear of that idea due to the fact those wars were fought on their soil, but America and China still view Nationalism as something positive and that we should force it on our citizens through flag waving, rhetoric, National Anthems, oaths to the leader, and war.

    There is a fine line between Nationalism and Patriotism. One makes a man stand up for his beliefs and the other makes him into a mass murderer.

  295. fascinating reading by lkcl · · Score: 1

    it looks like the EU, thanks in part to the FSF who actually listened to what i had to say, is actually going after microsoft at the level where it actually matters.

    AOL: waste of time.

    Netscape: waste of time.

    Media players: mostly a waste of time.

    Browsers: mostly a waste of time.

    Protocols and specifications: absolutely essential.

    Stopping agreements forcing OEMs to only install windows: pretty essential.

    US Dept of Justice: time wasters (esp. on not taking BEOS, protocols and specifications into account).

  296. Thanks Poland... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For allow me (as an european citizen) to paste this piece of code without fearing jail:

    section .text
    org 0x100

    dec ch
    mov bl,0xC0
    mov ah,0x09
    int 0x10

    xchg cl,bl
    mov ch,0x3
    int 0x10

    xchg ax,bx
    int 0x16

    ret

  297. What are the Dutch doing? by theolein · · Score: 1

    The fact is that the Dutch were pressuring everyone to accept the text of the proposal. This makes me suspiscious, because, as I pointed out in a recent post, the Dutch have become even more America's whore in recent years than the English have. What do the Dutch have to gain from selling out the EU to the Americans? Are they so scared of the Germans and the French and did America make some really big promises about saving Holland economically and politically, or did they just offer to give the Dutch nice old age homes in Arizona?

    1. Re:What are the Dutch doing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Dutch are bowing to the wishes of Royal Dutch Philips, who have threatened to off-shore all Software Development if they can't get their way on this issue.

  298. My translation by poszi · · Score: 1

    Without diactrics (damn Slashcode):

    My, nizej podpisani, chcemy przekazac Rzadowi Rzeczpospolitej Polskiej
    szczere wyrazy wdziecznosci za dzialania na rzecz usuniecia z porzadku
    obrad posiedzenia Komisji Rolnictwa w dniu 21 grudnia 2004 "pozycji A"
    dotyczacej przyjecia "Dyrektywy Patentowej na Oprogramowanie".
    Przyjecie tej "Dyrektywy Patentowej" byloby ogromnym bledem Unii
    Europejskiej.

    With diactrics in LaTeX format:

    My, ni\.{z}ej podpisani, chcemy przekaza\'{c} Rz\k{a}dowi
    Rzeczpospolitej Polskiej szczere wyrazy wdzi\k{e}czno\'{s}ci za
    dzia{\l}ania na rzecz usuni\k{e}cia z porz\k{a}dku obrad posiedzenia
    Komisji Rolnictwa w dniu 21 grudnia 2004 ,,pozycji A'' dotycz\k{a}cej
    przyj\k{e}cia ,,Dyrektywy Patentowej na Oprogramowanie''. Przyj\k{e}cie
    tej ,,Dyrektywy Patentowej'' by{\l}oby ogromnym b{\l}\k{e}dem Unii
    Europejskiej.

    HTML codes:

    \k{a} = #261
    \'{c} = #263
    \k{e} = #281
    {\l} = #322
    \'{s} = #347
    \'{z} = #380

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  299. Cool, thx - online now by bollow+(a)+NoLockIn · · Score: 1
    Thank you so much; this is online now.

    (If you'd like to see your name, rather than just the slashdot nick, in the Credits section of the page, you'll need to tell me your name :-)

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    1. Re:Cool, thx - online now by pucha · · Score: 1

      There are 2 typos on the website:

      ... Rzeczpospolitej Polski zsczere wyrazy ...

      It should be:

      ... Rzeczpospolitej Polskiej szczere wyrazy ...

      like in the GP.

    2. Re:Cool, thx - online now by poszi · · Score: 1
      Click on my URL for my name (and e-mail if you need to contact me).

      According to Polish typography, opening quote looks like two comas close together and LaTeX correctly translates ",," into opening quote. But this is not two commas. If this mark is not available, it's better to have "Dyrektywy Patentowej" than ,,Dyrektywy Patentowej''.

      Concerning Rzeczypospolitej or Rzeczpospolitej. Both forms are correct. See PWN dictionary entry. The former is a bit more traditional but they are both OK. But I don't mind changing to Rzeczypospolitej.

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  300. typos fixed, thx by bollow+(a)+NoLockIn · · Score: 1

    typos fixed, thx

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  301. oops by pucha · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I forgot about one more thing. The typo was in the original text this time:

    Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej

    It's either "Rzeczpospolita Polska" or "Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej" as can be seen in the Constitution. In this text the latter must be used.

  302. fixed that too, thx by bollow+(a)+NoLockIn · · Score: 1

    I've added the "y" -- thx!

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  303. Strange women lying around in ponds ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
    violence perpetrated by the ruling classes on the "filthy revolting peasants".
    Help, help, I'm being repressed!
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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    1. Re:Strange women lying around in ponds ... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 1
      Help, help, I'm being repressed!

      Unless, due to some time-warp, you are posting from the Tzarist Russia circa 1916 or are a virtual slave of some ass-backwards kingdom in mountains of Asia, you probably have no idea what I am talking about.

    2. Re:Strange women lying around in ponds ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Bloody peasant!

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  304. what a mess by suezz · · Score: 1

    it just makes me sick what the companies in the US put up with as far as software. reading that document on Groklaw just makes me sick. I feel like I gotta take a shower now - I guess I could never be a lawyer. it all comes clear now what the dutch were trying to do before the end of the year - what worms. Why can't these corporations see that using open source gets away from all this lawyer crap - if microsoft's software fails do you really think they are going to accept damages - and I can't believe that corporations buy microsoft just for running office applications - it a sham.

  305. Re: Point 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Point 3 is very good. When sworn in, I do not believe in God, so the oath should mean nothing, right? Well, no, because I do believe in *me*. I said I'd tell the truth and to the best of my understanding, I will.

    Kind of like Adam Young's view on the afterlife in Good Omens (if people didn't believe in an afetrlife, maybe they'd start trying to make this one better).

    Cheers