In Europe rights are things that you can't sign away.
If you believed that you were purchising xyz or that the contract is inavlid then in Europiean law the contact falls on the side of the person who purchased the goods (false adveertising etc..).
Click throughs don't carry any salt. Don't treat them like they do.
Not-for-resale is one of the funniest things that I've ever seen used, since that statement is compleatly against the law.
Exeptce the idea is to let my mum see that the site may not work because, 'who needs testing and standards do you doubt my way of managing projects and getting them out on time'.
Reflecting this lack of care and pointing out that it will probably extent to the rest of there business will embarise site into fixing the problem. The next release will have, 'fix that anoying warning that pops up in firefox telling people we can't be truted.'in the spec.
I was using the start to work out the Average right/left wing makeup of Europe, so it should level out across mp. (even if like the current UK government your a very right wing,capitalist labour party).
The strange thing is that it seems to tally with the way this vote is going, the way the American elections went,and even the cold war split.
The reason I believe we've got to this point and there is a debate is because people are naturally half left and half right.
Anyhow,the oil will run out soon, and we cango back to doing what we want.(or rioting)
They will listen and either agree or deside to shut you up.
Ok i think it's looking like a close run thing According to this site
there are 278 allied for patents. and 269+ allied against.
The European People's Party and European Democrats (EPP-ED) remains the largest party in the parliament with 278 seats. The EPP-ED brings together Christian Democrat, conservative and other mainstream centre and centre-right political forces from across the twenty-five EU member states. The UK's Conservative Party MEPs are attached to the EPP-ED.
The Party of European Socialists (PES) is the second largest party in the parliament with 199 MEPs. The PES brings together the socialist, social democratic and Labour parties in the parliament. The UK's Labour MEPs are members of the PES.
The Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE) brings together European political parties with common liberal and democratic ideals. This group was newly formed from the European Liberal and Democrat Reform group (ELDR) after the June 2004 elections. Despite only having 67 MEPs, which is relatively small compared with the EPP-ED and PES, the ALDE often holds the balance of power in crucial votes. The UK's Liberal Democrats are members of the ALDE and the current President of the ALDE is the UK's Graham Watson.
The Group of the Greens/European Free Alliance (Greens/EFA) is the political grouping to represent green parties and parties of stateless nations in the parliament. The UK has two Green party MEPs and the SNP and Plaid Cymru MEPs are also members of this group.
The European United Left/ Nordic Green Left (EUL/NGL) is a socialist and communist group within the parliament. (go on you reds)
The Union for Europe of the Nations (UEN) is an anti-federal group of MEPs from parties on the right of the political spectrum.
The Independence and Democracy group (formerly known as the Group for a Europe of Democracies and Diversities (EDD)) is critical of further European integration and centralisation and favours the creation of a Europe of Nation States. The UK's UKIP MEPs are attached to this group.
Wow, it's just like a bush kerry, but with less blood and more money involved.
There have been lots of email campains, but time it now up. If there's anything else bugging you you should still contact you MP or MEP, you never knowm, they may listen, it's quite close to a UK election and I don't think that there party will shuffle them around to a less safe seat if they break ranks a bit.
Anyhow...
If you want to contact your ME go here(what's an MEP?) UK
----postgres--- <i> bash-2.05b# psql Welcome to psql 7.4.6, the PostgreSQL interactive terminal.
Type: \copyright for distribution terms \h for help with SQL commands \? for help on internal slash commands \g or terminate with semicolon to execute query \q to quit
root=# \h Available help: ABORT CREATE LANGUAGE DROP TYPE ALTER AGGREGATE CREATE OPERATOR CLASS DROP USER ALTER CONVERSION CREATE OPERATOR DROP VIEW ALTER DATABASE CREATE RULE END ALTER DOMAIN CREATE SCHEMA EXECUTE ALTER FUNCTION CREATE SEQUENCE EXPLAIN ALTER GROUP CREATE TABLE FETCH ALTER LANGUAGE CREATE TABLE AS GRANT ALTER OPERATOR CLASS CREATE TRIGGER INSERT ALTER SCHEMA CREATE TYPE LISTEN ALTER SEQUENCE CREATE USER LOAD ALTER TABLE CREATE VIEW LOCK ALTER TRIGGER DEALLOCATE MOVE ALTER USER DECLARE NOTIFY ANALYZE DELETE PREPARE BEGIN DROP AGGREGATE REINDEX CHECKPOINT DROP CAST RESET CLOSE DROP CONVERSION REVOKE CLUSTER DROP DATABASE ROLLBACK COMMENT DROP DOMAIN SELECT COMMIT DROP FUNCTION SELECT INTO COPY DROP GROUP SET CREATE AGGREGATE DROP INDEX SET CONSTRAINTS CREATE CAST DROP LANGUAGE SET SESSION AUTHORIZATION CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER DROP OPERATOR CLASS SET TRANSACTION CREATE CONVERSION DROP OPERATOR SHOW CREATE DATABASE DROP RULE START TRANSACTION CREATE DOMAIN DROP SCHEMA TRUNCATE CREATE FUNCTION DROP SEQUENCE UNLISTEN CREATE GROUP DROP TABLE UPDATE CREATE INDEX DROP TRIGGER VACUUM </i>
Like it's reall easy to use postgres from the command line, just type in SQL.
--mysql --- <i> bash-2.05b# mysql Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. Your MySQL connection id is 2 to server version: 4.0.20
Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.
mysql> \h
For the complete MySQL Manual online visit: http://www.mysql.com/documentation
For info on technical support from MySQL developers visit: http://www.mysql.com/support
For info on MySQL books, utilities, consultants, etc. visit: http://www.mysql.com/portal
List of all MySQL commands: (Commands must appear first on line and end with ';')
help (\h) Display this help. ? (\?) Synonym for `help'. clear (\c) Clear command. connect (\r) Reconnect to the server. Optional arguments are db and host. edit (\e) Edit command with $EDITOR. ego (\G) Send command to mysql server, display result vertically. exit (\q) Exit mysql. Same as quit. go (\g) Send command to mysql server. nopager (\n) Disable pager, print to stdout. notee (\t) Don't write into outfile. pager (\P) Set PAGER [to_pager]. Print the query results via PAGER. print (\p) Print current command. prompt (\R) Change your mysql prompt. quit (\q) Quit mysql. rehash (\#) Rebuild completion hash. source (\.) Execute a SQL script file. Takes a file name as an argument. status (\s) Get status information from the server. system (\!) Execute a system shell command. tee (\T) Set outfile [to_outfile]. Append everything into given outfile. use (\u) Use another database. Takes database name as argument.
Connection id: 2 (Can be used with mysqladmin kill) </i>
Maybe firefox should display a little tick in the corner of the page if it. 1: uses a dock-type (other that html4 transitional). 2: Complies with that doc-type.
HTML 4 transitional could get nothing, and a error on the page could get a cross.
I would also suggest a tooltip saying, 1: This site is using valid html 2: This site is using old skool html. 3: This site isn't written very well, expect there servers to have security holes and there staff to steel your credit card numbers and goods to arive late, broken and not fitting the description.
Maybe the third one could be a modal popup warning box that you can't switch off.
1: How is MYSql cutting edge? SQLLight is probably more cutting edge than MYSql, but even then I can still run M$ Access 97 in a ram disk using wine.
2: I've never have problems with PostgreSQL, and the command line is at least as good as Oracle, though you were probably using toad for oracle, and than isn't oracle or command line. Try PGAdmin, it goes along the same lines as Toad.
SQL Server is quite easy to maintain but I've had it blow more chunks than a monkey in a chocolate factory, and most SQL server installs I'e seen have been done by a less than professional DBAdmin? (like they've still left dates returning in US format, even though I live in the uk and some idiot's actually written code expecting us format). SQL Server is also a pain with replication and trasaction logs, and it doesn't (or at least didn't ) support sequences so you were forced to write your own table, or use the monstrosity that is autonumber.
PostgreSQL may not be quite so feature rich (have you every used natural language query with SQL server?), but it's getting there pgpsql's ok too.
All in all the only time I've had a problem with postgreSQL was the first couple of times I installed it and it didn't have pgpsql switch on, and when it started comming with TCP disabled by default, and I had to go and setup some default permissions.
oh, Oracle pre 9 was a nightmare too, no support for inner joins except via where, outerjoins used that weird + syntax and that just the start of the mess.
I don't know what kind of work you do, but I expect it's low scale web development work because from my perspective MYSQL is sloopy and it's lack of ANSI SQL is a pain.
I've used Oracle 8, Oracle 9, SQL Server 97, and 2000 (and the one before 97 for a while), Access 95 and 2000 and reverse engenireed the db format, SQLLite, infomix, itrabase, MySQL, Lotus notes (if that counts) and more weird ODBC connection that you could imagine.
Personally if you said write something using MySQL I would tell you that your requirements and specification wouldn't support continued growth and development and download PostgreSQL.
Not to troll, by why MySQL? and not postgres, is there still anything that mysql does better than postgres? Have they added support for:
more than one concurrent connection.
ANSIish sql syntax.
triggers.
object orientated data.
etc... to MySQL yet?
If so how long ago, and woudln't it be better to use a more thourerly tested database server like, umm... postgress?
What do you get when you cross knopix, a pc with a Windows install and something that can convert the windows setup into a linux setup (by reading the regestry &co).
Plug and play Linux.
I'm starting with simple things like networe,users and desktop configuration. But evrything from netmounts and printer shares to ODBCConfiguration and Startment layouts should be possible
Why isn't it urgent? How long until oil runs out? How long until we get a replacement? What will we, ourchildren or our grandchildren do then?
AS you say 'life on earth',well humans, have progressed a great deal over the last couple of centries, buy for what aim? So that our children pay more tax, have worse health care and super bugs? Or so that people can start to throw asside prejudice and greed and help one another?
Though I seem to remember a book a couple of thousand years old talking about the same, so maybe 'life on earth' hasn't progressed that much!
Well, lets say it took 100 years to get the ball rolling, and if we stopped dumping Co2 now it would take 300 years for it to stop. Now for the next hundred years the temperature is going to increase by 0.1 degc a year then 0.05degc for the next 200 years, that's a 20 Degree rise. We don't inherit the earth from our for-fathers, we borrow it from our children.
So what your saying is, as soon it's been proven that global warming is real,because we've all been fried, then, maybe in a few years time we will reduce co2 output by 5% just to shut you commies up.
Ok,and IANAR, Bushes scientific advisers said that the 'clean air policy' is a load of shit, or at least his version of it. Also, sulfur dioxide =acid rain nitrogen oxides = acid rain (and it gets you off your tits!)
mercury emissions = stupid people (well they must be too high then!)
Slashdot Mirror
What people think is very rarely the truth.
In Europe rights are things that you can't sign away.
If you believed that you were purchising xyz or that the contract is inavlid then in Europiean law the contact falls on the side of the person who purchased the goods (false adveertising etc..).
Click throughs don't carry any salt. Don't treat them like they do.
Not-for-resale is one of the funniest things that I've ever seen used, since that statement is compleatly against the law.
Well, it a pair of adders can be on a single IC then yes, so long as the bus between the CPU's is build into the IC.
Exeptce the idea is to let my mum see that the site may not work because, 'who needs testing and standards do you doubt my way of managing projects and getting them out on time'.
Reflecting this lack of care and pointing out that it will probably extent to the rest of there business will embarise site into fixing the problem. The next release will have, 'fix that anoying warning that pops up in firefox telling people we can't be truted.'in the spec.
I was using the start to work out the Average right/left wing makeup of Europe, so it should level out across mp. (even if like the current UK government your a very right wing,capitalist labour party).
,the oil will run out soon, and we cango back to doing what we want.(or rioting)
The strange thing is that it seems to tally with the way this vote is going, the way the American elections went,and even the cold war split.
The reason I believe we've got to this point and there is a debate is because people are naturally half left and half right.
Anyhow
They will listen and either agree or deside to shut you up.
Ok i think it's looking like a close run thing
According to this site
there are 278 allied for patents.
and 269+ allied against.
The European People's Party and European Democrats (EPP-ED) remains the largest party in the parliament with 278 seats. The EPP-ED brings together Christian Democrat, conservative and other mainstream centre and centre-right political forces from across the twenty-five EU member states. The UK's Conservative Party MEPs are attached to the EPP-ED.
The Party of European Socialists (PES) is the second largest party in the parliament with 199 MEPs. The PES brings together the socialist, social democratic and Labour parties in the parliament. The UK's Labour MEPs are members of the PES.
The Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe (ALDE) brings together European political parties with common liberal and democratic ideals. This group was newly formed from the European Liberal and Democrat Reform group (ELDR) after the June 2004 elections. Despite only having 67 MEPs, which is relatively small compared with the EPP-ED and PES, the ALDE often holds the balance of power in crucial votes. The UK's Liberal Democrats are members of the ALDE and the current President of the ALDE is the UK's Graham Watson.
The Group of the Greens/European Free Alliance (Greens/EFA) is the political grouping to represent green parties and parties of stateless nations in the parliament. The UK has two Green party MEPs and the SNP and Plaid Cymru MEPs are also members of this group.
The European United Left/ Nordic Green Left (EUL/NGL) is a socialist and communist group within the parliament. (go on you reds)
The Union for Europe of the Nations (UEN) is an anti-federal group of MEPs from parties on the right of the political spectrum.
The Independence and Democracy group (formerly known as the Group for a Europe of Democracies and Diversities (EDD)) is critical of further European integration and centralisation and favours the creation of a Europe of Nation States. The UK's UKIP MEPs are attached to this group.
Wow, it's just like a bush kerry, but with less blood and more money involved.
There have been lots of email campains, but time it now up. If there's anything else bugging you you should still contact you MP or MEP, you never knowm, they may listen, it's quite close to a UK election and I don't think that there party will shuffle them around to a less safe seat if they break ranks a bit.
Anyhow...
If you want to contact your ME go here(what's an MEP?)
UK
If you want to fax your mp go here
Sorry, the whole MEP thing's a bit crap, and it looks like lists are regional.
----postgres---
<i>
bash-2.05b# psql
Welcome to psql 7.4.6, the PostgreSQL interactive terminal.
Type: \copyright for distribution terms
\h for help with SQL commands
\? for help on internal slash commands
\g or terminate with semicolon to execute query
\q to quit
root=# \h
Available help:
ABORT CREATE LANGUAGE DROP TYPE
ALTER AGGREGATE CREATE OPERATOR CLASS DROP USER
ALTER CONVERSION CREATE OPERATOR DROP VIEW
ALTER DATABASE CREATE RULE END
ALTER DOMAIN CREATE SCHEMA EXECUTE
ALTER FUNCTION CREATE SEQUENCE EXPLAIN
ALTER GROUP CREATE TABLE FETCH
ALTER LANGUAGE CREATE TABLE AS GRANT
ALTER OPERATOR CLASS CREATE TRIGGER INSERT
ALTER SCHEMA CREATE TYPE LISTEN
ALTER SEQUENCE CREATE USER LOAD
ALTER TABLE CREATE VIEW LOCK
ALTER TRIGGER DEALLOCATE MOVE
ALTER USER DECLARE NOTIFY
ANALYZE DELETE PREPARE
BEGIN DROP AGGREGATE REINDEX
CHECKPOINT DROP CAST RESET
CLOSE DROP CONVERSION REVOKE
CLUSTER DROP DATABASE ROLLBACK
COMMENT DROP DOMAIN SELECT
COMMIT DROP FUNCTION SELECT INTO
COPY DROP GROUP SET
CREATE AGGREGATE DROP INDEX SET CONSTRAINTS
CREATE CAST DROP LANGUAGE SET SESSION AUTHORIZATION
CREATE CONSTRAINT TRIGGER DROP OPERATOR CLASS SET TRANSACTION
CREATE CONVERSION DROP OPERATOR SHOW
CREATE DATABASE DROP RULE START TRANSACTION
CREATE DOMAIN DROP SCHEMA TRUNCATE
CREATE FUNCTION DROP SEQUENCE UNLISTEN
CREATE GROUP DROP TABLE UPDATE
CREATE INDEX DROP TRIGGER VACUUM
</i>
Like it's reall easy to use postgres from the command line, just type in SQL.
--mysql ---
<i>
bash-2.05b# mysql
Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 2 to server version: 4.0.20
Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.
mysql> \h
For the complete MySQL Manual online visit:
http://www.mysql.com/documentation
For info on technical support from MySQL developers visit:
http://www.mysql.com/support
For info on MySQL books, utilities, consultants, etc. visit:
http://www.mysql.com/portal
List of all MySQL commands:
(Commands must appear first on line and end with ';')
help (\h) Display this help.
? (\?) Synonym for `help'.
clear (\c) Clear command.
connect (\r) Reconnect to the server. Optional arguments are db and host.
edit (\e) Edit command with $EDITOR.
ego (\G) Send command to mysql server, display result vertically.
exit (\q) Exit mysql. Same as quit.
go (\g) Send command to mysql server.
nopager (\n) Disable pager, print to stdout.
notee (\t) Don't write into outfile.
pager (\P) Set PAGER [to_pager]. Print the query results via PAGER.
print (\p) Print current command.
prompt (\R) Change your mysql prompt.
quit (\q) Quit mysql.
rehash (\#) Rebuild completion hash.
source (\.) Execute a SQL script file. Takes a file name as an argument.
status (\s) Get status information from the server.
system (\!) Execute a system shell command.
tee (\T) Set outfile [to_outfile]. Append everything into given outfile.
use (\u) Use another database. Takes database name as argument.
Connection id: 2 (Can be used with mysqladmin kill)
</i>
Umm.... what next.... umm....
Are you sure you've used postgres?
Maybe firefox should display a little tick in the corner of the page if it.
1: uses a dock-type (other that html4 transitional).
2: Complies with that doc-type.
HTML 4 transitional could get nothing, and a error on the page could get a cross.
I would also suggest a tooltip saying,
1: This site is using valid html
2: This site is using old skool html.
3: This site isn't written very well, expect there servers to have security holes and there staff to steel your credit card numbers and goods to arive late, broken and not fitting the description.
Maybe the third one could be a modal popup warning box that you can't switch off.
1: How is MYSql cutting edge? SQLLight is probably more cutting edge than MYSql, but even then I can still run M$ Access 97 in a ram disk using wine.
2: I've never have problems with PostgreSQL, and the command line is at least as good as Oracle, though you were probably using toad for oracle, and than isn't oracle or command line. Try PGAdmin, it goes along the same lines as Toad.
SQL Server is quite easy to maintain but I've had it blow more chunks than a monkey in a chocolate factory, and most SQL server installs I'e seen have been done by a less than professional DBAdmin? (like they've still left dates returning in US format, even though I live in the uk and some idiot's actually written code expecting us format).
SQL Server is also a pain with replication and trasaction logs, and it doesn't (or at least didn't ) support sequences so you were forced to write your own table, or use the monstrosity that is autonumber.
PostgreSQL may not be quite so feature rich (have you every used natural language query with SQL server?), but it's getting there pgpsql's ok too.
All in all the only time I've had a problem with postgreSQL was the first couple of times I installed it and it didn't have pgpsql switch on, and when it started comming with TCP disabled by default, and I had to go and setup some default permissions.
oh, Oracle pre 9 was a nightmare too, no support for inner joins except via where, outerjoins used that weird + syntax and that just the start of the mess.
I don't know what kind of work you do, but I expect it's low scale web development work because from my perspective MYSQL is sloopy and it's lack of ANSI SQL is a pain.
I've used Oracle 8, Oracle 9, SQL Server 97, and 2000 (and the one before 97 for a while), Access 95 and 2000 and reverse engenireed the db format, SQLLite, infomix, itrabase, MySQL, Lotus notes (if that counts) and more weird ODBC connection that you could imagine.
Personally if you said write something using MySQL I would tell you that your requirements and specification wouldn't support continued growth and development and download PostgreSQL.
Have microsoft written an os from scratch?
Don't they still use the BSD stack for tcp/ip?
So you don't think that Google have ever submited any patched to the linux Kernel or drivers then?
Call it LAMPX and I'll help start the port.
X because all data streams are in XML and XSLT is used to transform data streams.
Not to troll, by why MySQL? and not postgres, is there still anything that mysql does better than postgres?
Have they added support for:
more than one concurrent connection.
ANSIish sql syntax.
triggers.
object orientated data.
etc...
to MySQL yet?
If so how long ago, and woudln't it be better to use a more thourerly tested database server like, umm... postgress?
I'm working on it.
,users and desktop configuration. But evrything from netmounts and printer shares to ODBCConfiguration and Startment layouts should be possible
What do you get when you cross knopix, a pc with a Windows install and something that can convert the windows setup into a linux setup (by reading the regestry &co).
Plug and play Linux.
I'm starting with simple things like networe
Why isn't it urgent?
How long until oil runs out?
How long until we get a replacement?
What will we, ourchildren or our grandchildren do then?
AS you say 'life on earth',well humans, have progressed a great deal over the last couple of centries, buy for what aim? So that our children pay more tax, have worse health care and super bugs? Or so that people can start to throw asside prejudice and greed and help one another?
Though I seem to remember a book a couple of thousand years old talking about the same, so maybe 'life on earth' hasn't progressed that much!
I don't believe you, I need proof!
Well, lets say it took 100 years to get the ball rolling, and if we stopped dumping Co2 now it would take 300 years for it to stop.
Now for the next hundred years the temperature is going to increase by 0.1 degc a year then 0.05degc for the next 200 years, that's a 20 Degree rise. We don't inherit the earth from our for-fathers, we borrow it from our children.
Like how has the human race servived up until now? Are you one of those people that only got told about the last couple of hundred years in history?
Well hard dirty capitalist cash, and the fact they TV is a good baby sitter for the masses to stop them plotting to overthrow a corrupt government.
You can still all own a gun right? Think about where you could point that gun and make a real difference.
So what your saying is, as soon it's been proven that global warming is real,because we've all been fried, then, maybe in a few years time we will reduce co2 output by 5% just to shut you commies up.
Ok,and IANAR, Bushes scientific advisers said that the 'clean air policy' is a load of shit, or at least his version of it.
Also, sulfur dioxide =acid rain
nitrogen oxides = acid rain (and it gets you off your tits!)
mercury emissions = stupid people (well they must be too high then!)
How does that help reduce Co2 emissions?
Are you one of those religious nuts that still believe that Man was created by the hand of God.
Try some magic mushrooms, you can get them online easy enough, and they should sort out your psychiatric problems.
So, your idea of utopia is when evryone works 24/7?
When my idea is that no-one 'works', everything is free so you don't give a shit that you only earn US$22/month.
Maybe that's a bit 'commie', but then isn't China supposed to be communist? $22 commie a month goes a lot further than $22 consumer a hounr.
Hey man, Bush got in, and you expect the 'system' to be safe. How would that be able to keep you in fear with a 'safe' system.