my point is that different people use different things for different things.... calling it 'the way' is pointless.... I said 'friend' not 'friends' aka a sample size of one. U really don't understand do you?
I never really should feed idiots should I... opps.
well, there are a few ways to work out source and destination software that generates the data.
But mostly they boil down to timings and packet sizes that can be used to create a profile to work out what is creating the data. Not sure how many levels of encapsulation it goes down to, or if 'noise' could be added... though the noise may itself be a distinguishing feature.
So lets say iOS apps all use the same library to do network stuff and that the tethering software modifies routing tables and so bypasses the usual methods for creating network traffic.
You'd then expect to see a different profile created from devises where the software running on them was not using those libraries on that platform/processor/memory system but from some other source. You could then infer that that source was outside of the terms of service.
who did the school ask to provide as technical solution to a problem they where too uneducated to fix themselves?
why did the vendor not raise the issues with the client and up-sell or cross sell or re-sell a total solution to meet their requirements?
This is a classic, government type client knows fuck all and expects vendor to sort it out. Vendor knows fuck all about what the government client wants and just does a money grab without asking the obvious questions...
Case of idiot meets idiot, blind man not in the room.
What your saying, is what I'd assume to be the case.
Google is being scapegoated, possibly due to propaganda on one side or an attempt and plausible deneighability on the side of the schools..
I suppose the issue really is with the vendor as I would not expect the person I am selling a product to, who has not created their own solution, to have a single fucking clue about anything.
I'd then up or cross sell other products to fill in with their legal (and oooh that looks pretty) requirements.
A good or reasonable free OCR application, hooked up to a PDF or other view and a little script could automate the process.... even to the point of as soon as the file is downloaded or on the system it does a background conversion.
Well, the software you promote is offensive to intelligent people.
I'd say that if the intelligent people weren't so offended they may be able to get it to work with anything and for anyone, without having to pay the extra dollar for crapola.
well it says it's Gmail etc... are they saying that sighted people are not allowed to use a superior product even though, last time I checked, you can use a pop or imap client with Gmail as I do. I've been told their are even free ones and text only ones like elm or cat/var/spool/mail/myemail >/dev/espeak or what-have you.. (I seem to remember festival or espeak or something along those lines producing a device for the job)
festival/var/spool/mail/myemail (with some args) may also work!
asperger's is asocial not anti--social. egocentric but not egoistic. anti social personality disorder is under ICD-10 and mutually exclusive, it's a theory of mind thing.
brain imaging on people with AS seems to show more empathy not less.
I don't even think you have a clue what the hell they are... It's a sadly not decreasing fad amongst retarded people that they think anything different from them is somehow wrong and they are perfect arseholes. You are an arsehole, you are right.
They also appear to thing that those 'different' people aren't really different (lack of empathy and social understanding I'd expect, maybe ICD-10 Anti-social personality disorder), because they think themselves more acceptable if everyone else is an arsehole too.... just a retarded one who doesn't do the right thing.
One notable trait is the self superiority, or authoritarian and manipulative nature of such wannabe individuals. They may for instance think that people can't possibly know anything for themselves (since they rely on authoritarian learning and teaching methods and rational) and may use phrases such as 'The increasing fad among geeks to self diagnose themselves'
fad... put down the other person... geek... well can be seen as a put down. self diagnose themselves... well I don't know how you self diagnose someone else... but making them seem selfish and not obeying the authoritarian society they would like to construct with their sociopath ways.
Hey this is/., the only bird he's dated was the inode date on his Tux desktop background.
Obviously the only explanation is that there must be loads of polygamists raping all the women up their bad ass he find's to be 'ackwards politics'... Though I believe if he stopped givijng his software away for free and sold it like a good Capitalist then for $50 he could be a consumer of the delights of the flesh, by finding a Gay guy with a harem who does a second-hand job as a pimp.
see if I was asking for the IP it would be like asking for a phone record.
I'd then apply to do a write tap on the communication... collect further evidence relating the information gathered directly to individuals. and make any arrests if I found those individuals where breaking the law.
sine the IP reached it's destination (at least under UK RIP act...) it wouldn't be a wire tap as it's not intercepting a the transmission of the data.
I think you wouldn't need much if anything more than probable cause to investigate further.
anyone can rob me for my phone, I am not my phone number.
You can't make an ethics call like that, against a possible crime, until there has been an investigation into that crime if there was one.
I'd like to argue that the government being a total bunch of cunts amounts to entrapment though!
that is an emotive not a rational, didactic argument.... law works, or is supposed to, irrespective of any common or colloquial morality.
see if I was asking for the IP it would be like asking for a phone record.
I'd then apply to do a write tap on the communication... collect further evidence relating the information gathered directly to individuals. and make any arrests if I found those individuals where breaking the law.
sine the IP reached it's destination (at least under UK RIP act...) it wouldn't be a wire tap as it's not intercepting a the transmission of the data.
anyone can rob me for my phone, I am not my phone number.
I was thinking more of the RIAA type stuff and plausible deniability defense. Which stands at least in the UK and I'm not sure what was going on in the states.
But if the judge knows that the IP doesn't actually directly link to a person etc... then well he'd have no reason not to let them have it...
The reason for the request should come into it... just if the data is or is not protected and why.
I rather see IP addresses not being linkable to people.. VPN, work network etc... without actually knowing if it is connected directly to a real person or not.. then how the hell do you make any judgement in favor of protecting something that isn't?
could someone request that I hand over a sock since they think it may have some connection to a murder trial... regardless of it does or not?
someone could have hacked into your computer and used twitter from it for instance. or a mate may have popped over, or a lodger or whoever. or someone could have used your wireless from a car parked outside or the garden or the next flat but one....
IP addresses identify ISP, may be used for performance data etc... location etc... all pretty useful data to be able to have...
also if you want to look and see if someone's been upto something, or an IP, and block it.
I'm on NAT via an ISP and my IP get's blocked from wikipedia, and other places from time to time (due to spammers) etc... Get messages about having lots of traffic coming from my IP (being shared)
umm.... no I'm saying that when the person posted via their computer (assuming the computer wasn't hacked and someone else did it remotely or whatever) that along with the readable text the person also (by means of not packet spoofing etc...) sent a IP address, down the line as part of the communication of his free speech.
They basically want the bit of communication that was intercepted and stored by twitter and didn't make it out onto the twitter page.
now if their behind NAT with their ISP then that's a bit different as the ISP will send theirs as part of the communication.
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my point is that different people use different things for different things.... calling it 'the way' is pointless.... I said 'friend' not 'friends' aka a sample size of one. U really don't understand do you?
I never really should feed idiots should I... opps.
well, there are a few ways to work out source and destination software that generates the data.
But mostly they boil down to timings and packet sizes that can be used to create a profile to work out what is creating the data.
Not sure how many levels of encapsulation it goes down to, or if 'noise' could be added... though the noise may itself be a distinguishing feature.
So lets say iOS apps all use the same library to do network stuff and that the tethering software modifies routing tables and so bypasses the usual methods for creating network traffic.
You'd then expect to see a different profile created from devises where the software running on them was not using those libraries on that platform/processor/memory system but from some other source. You could then infer that that source was outside of the terms of service.
when my partner say's she's watching T.V. she's watching a film.
When I say I'm watching T.V. my friends call me a bullshitter... I never watch TV.
That's my point.
who did the school ask to provide as technical solution to a problem they where too uneducated to fix themselves?
why did the vendor not raise the issues with the client and up-sell or cross sell or re-sell a total solution to meet their requirements?
This is a classic, government type client knows fuck all and expects vendor to sort it out.
Vendor knows fuck all about what the government client wants and just does a money grab without asking the obvious questions...
Case of idiot meets idiot, blind man not in the room.
What your saying, is what I'd assume to be the case.
Google is being scapegoated, possibly due to propaganda on one side or an attempt and plausible deneighability on the side of the schools..
I suppose the issue really is with the vendor as I would not expect the person I am selling a product to, who has not created their own solution, to have a single fucking clue about anything.
I'd then up or cross sell other products to fill in with their legal (and oooh that looks pretty) requirements.
umm... what are you using?
A good or reasonable free OCR application, hooked up to a PDF or other view and a little script could automate the process.... even to the point of as soon as the file is downloaded or on the system it does a background conversion.
Should be quite easy to put together..
as I said
Imap and elm etc.....
you can run lynx on an android
and all free today.
I would not say that the problem is of Android or HTCs making, just that, well... you couldn't be bothered to sort out the issues you are having.
I'll tell you what... get a few of your mates to chip in and I'll know you some stuff up for Android so it can be all speaking all dancing.
google oliverthered to find me, email on this place don't work.
Well, the software you promote is offensive to intelligent people.
I'd say that if the intelligent people weren't so offended they may be able to get it to work with anything and for anyone, without having to pay the extra dollar for crapola.
when my friend say's their going to watch T.V. it's a few soaps and a bit of news... that's the way it is now.
I also think that Google does voice to text and TTS, well I've heard it's on voice and TTS on my mandroid, if only I could see where I've put it down.
well it says it's Gmail etc... are they saying that sighted people are not allowed to use a superior product even though, last time I checked, you can use a pop or imap client with Gmail as I do. /var/spool/mail/myemail > /dev/espeak
I've been told their are even free ones and text only ones like elm or cat
or what-have you.. (I seem to remember festival or espeak or something along those lines producing a device for the job)
festival /var/spool/mail/myemail (with some args) may also work!
asperger's is asocial not anti--social. egocentric but not egoistic.
anti social personality disorder is under ICD-10 and mutually exclusive, it's a theory of mind thing.
brain imaging on people with AS seems to show more empathy not less.
what's your theory?
umm..... Let's put your straw man another way...
I don't even think you have a clue what the hell they are... It's a sadly not decreasing fad amongst retarded people that they think anything different from them is somehow wrong and they are perfect arseholes. You are an arsehole, you are right.
They also appear to thing that those 'different' people aren't really different (lack of empathy and social understanding I'd expect, maybe ICD-10 Anti-social personality disorder), because they think themselves more acceptable if everyone else is an arsehole too.... just a retarded one who doesn't do the right thing.
One notable trait is the self superiority, or authoritarian and manipulative nature of such wannabe individuals. They may for instance think that people can't possibly know anything for themselves (since they rely on authoritarian learning and teaching methods and rational) and may use phrases such as 'The increasing fad among geeks to self diagnose themselves'
fad ... put down the other person... ... well can be seen as a put down.
geek
self diagnose themselves... well I don't know how you self diagnose someone else... but making them seem selfish and not obeying the authoritarian society they would like to construct with their sociopath ways.
opp's I diagnosed your self.
Hey this is /., the only bird he's dated was the inode date on his Tux desktop background.
Obviously the only explanation is that there must be loads of polygamists raping all the women up their bad ass he find's to be 'ackwards politics'... Though I believe if he stopped givijng his software away for free and sold it like a good Capitalist then for $50 he could be a consumer of the delights of the flesh, by finding a Gay guy with a harem who does a second-hand job as a pimp.
umm.. those things listed are technical expertise.
How the hell can you be a technical expert if you can't work with people and pass it on...
We call them consultants!
what's 4? with DST there is no 4.
see if I was asking for the IP it would be like asking for a phone record.
I'd then apply to do a write tap on the communication...
collect further evidence relating the information gathered directly to individuals.
and make any arrests if I found those individuals where breaking the law.
sine the IP reached it's destination (at least under UK RIP act...) it wouldn't be a wire tap as it's not intercepting a the transmission of the data.
I think you wouldn't need much if anything more than probable cause to investigate further.
anyone can rob me for my phone, I am not my phone number.
You can't make an ethics call like that, against a possible crime, until there has been an investigation into that crime if there was one.
I'd like to argue that the government being a total bunch of cunts amounts to entrapment though!
that is an emotive not a rational, didactic argument.... law works, or is supposed to, irrespective of any common or colloquial morality.
checkout super critical CO2 turbines....
have fun.... box where's the box... there is no box.
see if I was asking for the IP it would be like asking for a phone record.
I'd then apply to do a write tap on the communication...
collect further evidence relating the information gathered directly to individuals.
and make any arrests if I found those individuals where breaking the law.
sine the IP reached it's destination (at least under UK RIP act...) it wouldn't be a wire tap as it's not intercepting a the transmission of the data.
anyone can rob me for my phone, I am not my phone number.
I was thinking more of the RIAA type stuff and plausible deniability defense. Which stands at least in the UK and I'm not sure what was going on in the states.
But if the judge knows that the IP doesn't actually directly link to a person etc... then well he'd have no reason not to let them have it...
The reason for the request should come into it... just if the data is or is not protected and why.
I rather see IP addresses not being linkable to people.. VPN, work network etc... without actually knowing if it is connected directly to a real person or not.. then how the hell do you make any judgement in favor of protecting something that isn't?
could someone request that I hand over a sock since they think it may have some connection to a murder trial... regardless of it does or not?
Good job you didn't want to become a shrink!
there's a fine line between shrink and not all there.
I enjoy flexi-time.
that's only a probability..
someone could have hacked into your computer and used twitter from it for instance.
or a mate may have popped over, or a lodger or whoever.
or someone could have used your wireless from a car parked outside or the garden or the next flat but one....
IP addresses identify ISP, may be used for performance data etc... location etc... all pretty useful data to be able to have...
also if you want to look and see if someone's been upto something, or an IP, and block it.
I'm on NAT via an ISP and my IP get's blocked from wikipedia, and other places from time to time (due to spammers) etc...
Get messages about having lots of traffic coming from my IP (being shared)
umm.... no I'm saying that when the person posted via their computer (assuming the computer wasn't hacked and someone else did it remotely or whatever) that along with the readable text the person also (by means of not packet spoofing etc...) sent a IP address, down the line as part of the communication of his free speech.
They basically want the bit of communication that was intercepted and stored by twitter and didn't make it out onto the twitter page.
now if their behind NAT with their ISP then that's a bit different as the ISP will send theirs as part of the communication.
I'm also interested in where that IP address came from if it wasn't communicated via a protocol.