...they have too much power. I hope this kid beats the rap and the abusive powers we have given law enforcement are brought to the attention of the nation.
Your scenario has already happened, and no phreak was involved. Incompetent pigs with too much firepower and the right to bust in with no knocking resulted in the death of a grandmother. They got the wrong house.
I, at least, am not so pants-fillingly scared of the bogeyman that I want my law enforcement to have these powers.
Our police SWAT teams always comport themselves justly. Of course, due to cowardice of many American voters, they can now just bust in and start shooting without saying a word. If a few innocents have to die so that the retarded "take my freedoms and tell me I'm safe" can be shown how wrong they are, so be it.
Of course, I'm betting it won't be my house...pretty good odds:D
But your examples of 'Liberals resgtricting Rights' seem petty and disingenuous which are often the signs of a troll. To me, those are non-issues compared to being spied on with no warrant or having my habeus corpus rights taken from me. Being lied to in order to start a war...it was conservatives who did that. Adding 25% to the national debt...that was conservatives. I don't really care about gun ownership...the only reason I'd want guns would be to protect myself from government. A semi-auto rifle can't compare to the military and para-military police forces out there, even if the Iraqis seem to be pulling it off.
Federal tax code takes money from 'rich' states and gives it to 'poor' states. The Rich states...NY, NJ, CA, CT, etc...all pretty liberals. The poor states? MO, MI, LA, AL, NM, AL which trend conservative. Yeah, you weren't the right person to make that comment to since I have no idea where you live.
In fact, they aren't rights. They sound like mush-brained talking points.. I couldn't say anything bad about the lies used to invade Iraq without being called a traitor and worse. I couldn't question the use of the fighting in Iraq without being told I hate the troops. You know, shit like that. You seem to want all the benefits of a high-tech society without paying your fair share in taxes.
I guarantee you that this law will lead to more taxes being spent to shore up under-performing ISPs who claim this designation but cannot deliver. Why? Because it's fine to tax people to limit their freedoms because it is for the children. It's fine to throw money at corporations in the name of protection from scary things. Utah is already in the red when it comes to Federal taxes paid vs. Federal funding received...
Big difference. He was annoyed by children, I am afraid the lazy tax-leeching parents will accuse me of some made-up child-related wrong-doing. You can never get your name back after being accused of doing something wrong to a child, even if the courts exonerate you. I just don't want to put myself in a dangerous situation.
Perhaps decades would be harsh, how about 4 - 6 with no parole? Non-profits are tax-free (and other perks) because they are being rewarded for helping society. I'm not sure how over-stating the threat of online child predation is really helping society. My cynical mind sees that as a way for the organization to justify its existence. Truth should be our goal in all endeavors.
You'll become a social outcast. It is OK to lie about statistics because child molestation is so serious that truth and justice can be thrown out to 'get the bad guys'. Ends justify the means type shit. At least, that's how it appears to me. It's enough to make a guy avoid any and all children when in public.
You act as if the USA has never used these sorts of tactics and has some sort of high ground from which to disparage those who are defending their way of life against what they see as invaders and corrupt countrymen. What do you think the nuking of Japan was like?! Remember the civil war?
Whatever dude...I know it's just easier to accept what you are told about terrorists by your government.
A few degrees can make or break many of the livable areas on our globe. Our entire civilization was built arround how the planet functioned at a certain temperature range, increasing that temp has already had negative effects. I'm of the mind that we need to fix this if we can, and there is much evidence that by changing what we piss into the environment, we can effect a change.
We've pissed away a Trillion Borrowed Dollars into Iraq and only made terrorism worse. There were many people who poked holes in the reasoning for the conflict, but it happened anyway. I wish the pants-filling cowards who let that go by would also realize that climate shift will kill far more than the few thousand who died on 9/11.
So why not piss away another borrowed Trillion Dollars on making our energy systems sustainable?
This is something agreed upon by a very large majority of scientists across the globe.
Personally, even if they are over-reacting, polluting the environment is a very bad thing. Since we have only one planet that can sustain human life, I think we should err on the side of caution. If it means you have to spend more on fuel and new energy technology, well, we had it pretty good for a while.
The American Revolution only happened because Americans had to use non-'noble' fighting techniques to defeat the better armed, trained and supported British. Also, only half the nation was into the fight anyway. I used China as an example, but I suppose Russians would be more acceptable, since they've begun their saber rattling.
I love the terrorist-fearing pant-loads crying that the terrorists use women and children to fight off the people who have invaded and occupied their country. Do they really think American women and children wouldn't volunteer to help resist the Chinese, if they entered our nation and set up a puppet government?
All I can say about this conflict is that nobody I give a shit about was stupid enough to believe the government's lies and enlist to fight in Iraq. My deepest condolences for those who enlisted pre-2003 to defend their nation...these men and women are being misused.
W2K stripped down lets me play the few games I enjoy, run eclipse, and waste time on the internet. Plus, I can re-install as often as I like. Someday I'll move to Linux...probably when I can run the latest Civilization game on it.
If we had less of an oil addiction, the military might not be generating more terrorists over in Iraq because we wouldn't really need access to their oil.
...they have too much power. I hope this kid beats the rap and the abusive powers we have given law enforcement are brought to the attention of the nation.
Your scenario has already happened, and no phreak was involved. Incompetent pigs with too much firepower and the right to bust in with no knocking resulted in the death of a grandmother. They got the wrong house.
I, at least, am not so pants-fillingly scared of the bogeyman that I want my law enforcement to have these powers.
If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear from your militarized police force!
Our police SWAT teams always comport themselves justly. Of course, due to cowardice of many American voters, they can now just bust in and start shooting without saying a word. If a few innocents have to die so that the retarded "take my freedoms and tell me I'm safe" can be shown how wrong they are, so be it.
:D
Of course, I'm betting it won't be my house...pretty good odds
But your examples of 'Liberals resgtricting Rights' seem petty and disingenuous which are often the signs of a troll. To me, those are non-issues compared to being spied on with no warrant or having my habeus corpus rights taken from me. Being lied to in order to start a war...it was conservatives who did that. Adding 25% to the national debt...that was conservatives. I don't really care about gun ownership...the only reason I'd want guns would be to protect myself from government. A semi-auto rifle can't compare to the military and para-military police forces out there, even if the Iraqis seem to be pulling it off.
Federal tax code takes money from 'rich' states and gives it to 'poor' states. The Rich states...NY, NJ, CA, CT, etc...all pretty liberals. The poor states? MO, MI, LA, AL, NM, AL which trend conservative. Yeah, you weren't the right person to make that comment to since I have no idea where you live.
Keep it up Mr. Troll. Keep it up. My liberal income is subsidizing your hate through the Federal Tax Code, and yes, you are welcome.
In fact, they aren't rights. They sound like mush-brained talking points.. I couldn't say anything bad about the lies used to invade Iraq without being called a traitor and worse. I couldn't question the use of the fighting in Iraq without being told I hate the troops. You know, shit like that. You seem to want all the benefits of a high-tech society without paying your fair share in taxes.
Or my right for an abortion? Or my right to have a warrant issued before I am spied on by my government?
I'm wondering what rights the Democrats would take away from me...
I guarantee you that this law will lead to more taxes being spent to shore up under-performing ISPs who claim this designation but cannot deliver. Why? Because it's fine to tax people to limit their freedoms because it is for the children. It's fine to throw money at corporations in the name of protection from scary things. Utah is already in the red when it comes to Federal taxes paid vs. Federal funding received...
Big difference. He was annoyed by children, I am afraid the lazy tax-leeching parents will accuse me of some made-up child-related wrong-doing. You can never get your name back after being accused of doing something wrong to a child, even if the courts exonerate you. I just don't want to put myself in a dangerous situation.
Perhaps decades would be harsh, how about 4 - 6 with no parole? Non-profits are tax-free (and other perks) because they are being rewarded for helping society. I'm not sure how over-stating the threat of online child predation is really helping society. My cynical mind sees that as a way for the organization to justify its existence. Truth should be our goal in all endeavors.
A public servant who lies to the public should be thrown in prison for several decades.
You'll become a social outcast. It is OK to lie about statistics because child molestation is so serious that truth and justice can be thrown out to 'get the bad guys'. Ends justify the means type shit. At least, that's how it appears to me. It's enough to make a guy avoid any and all children when in public.
...how many Linux VMs could be run on one of those things!
...So I guess you're saying that CNN is more classy and un-biased than FoxNews? :P
You act as if the USA has never used these sorts of tactics and has some sort of high ground from which to disparage those who are defending their way of life against what they see as invaders and corrupt countrymen. What do you think the nuking of Japan was like?! Remember the civil war?
Whatever dude...I know it's just easier to accept what you are told about terrorists by your government.
Diapers let me code longer and break my concentration less. I'm considering getting a catheter.
A few degrees can make or break many of the livable areas on our globe. Our entire civilization was built arround how the planet functioned at a certain temperature range, increasing that temp has already had negative effects. I'm of the mind that we need to fix this if we can, and there is much evidence that by changing what we piss into the environment, we can effect a change.
We've pissed away a Trillion Borrowed Dollars into Iraq and only made terrorism worse. There were many people who poked holes in the reasoning for the conflict, but it happened anyway. I wish the pants-filling cowards who let that go by would also realize that climate shift will kill far more than the few thousand who died on 9/11.
So why not piss away another borrowed Trillion Dollars on making our energy systems sustainable?
This is something agreed upon by a very large majority of scientists across the globe.
Personally, even if they are over-reacting, polluting the environment is a very bad thing. Since we have only one planet that can sustain human life, I think we should err on the side of caution. If it means you have to spend more on fuel and new energy technology, well, we had it pretty good for a while.
The American Revolution only happened because Americans had to use non-'noble' fighting techniques to defeat the better armed, trained and supported British. Also, only half the nation was into the fight anyway. I used China as an example, but I suppose Russians would be more acceptable, since they've begun their saber rattling.
Read a fucking history book, jackass.
I love the terrorist-fearing pant-loads crying that the terrorists use women and children to fight off the people who have invaded and occupied their country. Do they really think American women and children wouldn't volunteer to help resist the Chinese, if they entered our nation and set up a puppet government?
All I can say about this conflict is that nobody I give a shit about was stupid enough to believe the government's lies and enlist to fight in Iraq. My deepest condolences for those who enlisted pre-2003 to defend their nation...these men and women are being misused.
2-way AthlonMP 2800+ old! I suppose when the budget allows for an upgrade I will have an OS decision to make.
W2K stripped down lets me play the few games I enjoy, run eclipse, and waste time on the internet. Plus, I can re-install as often as I like. Someday I'll move to Linux...probably when I can run the latest Civilization game on it.
Boxy is Beautiful. If you want over-styled machines with a sluggish UI, be my guest. I prefer more a more clean and less cluttered experience.
In a few years, when we look back at the Apple designs which have become tacky and dated, the Thinkpad still looks elegant and clean.
If we had less of an oil addiction, the military might not be generating more terrorists over in Iraq because we wouldn't really need access to their oil.
But I'm a cynic.