You could have found Mozilla bugs yourself (or someone you paid) if you wanted or _needed_ to.
Noone has to rewrite their server software because of a mozilla security hole. MS bug record doesn't compare to Mozilla. Mozilla is just a foundation that produces a browser and some other things. A client app. They don't charge you for using their software , and then cost you much more money. They don't force their licenses on your new hardware. There is no way you can compare Mozilla with MS.
I'm not clear here, so you mean they did find a correlation? I know the feeling here is that it is real, and from informal observation it looks like it is, but it would be nice to have some scientific evidence to back it up.
-------------------- No entendí bien, lo que decis es que sí encontraron correlación entre el agujero y los efectos en la piel de la gente de Usuahia?? Porque se siente así, y "experimentalmente" yo lo veo así, acá en Uruguay, pero estaría bueno tener alguna evidencia científica.
No, it just means the current administration wanted to have their war. Not one person I know who actually has a coherent thought in their head thinks the war was justified on the basis of the adminstration's viewpoint of "just trust us".
I don't understand that. People from the US refer to shit they do as done by the government. The government represents _you_. Whatever the government does is effectively supported by your actions or lack of them. Add to that the fact that many people still support Bush, or another guy who doesn't propose a differente foreign affairs policy, and you have that the US people are well represented by Bush. When he & friends crush a country like Afghanistan, it's not a crime by Bush, it's a crime perpetrated by the United States, with Bush & friends as their leaders, and you all as their supporters, or at least the ones who let them stay in their chairs.
I believe white kids around here do use much more SPF than before. People get a lot less tanned in general nowadays, but that could be assigned to "ozone propaganda".
Anyway what I was trying to say is that it is much harder right now to get a tan without suffering skin damage, because UV rays hit stronger now than they used to be, for example fifteen years ago.
Well, I have no scientific evidence, but both my coworkers here, and my GF have the same problem.
The perceived maximum time of unprotected exposure without damage has diminished dramatically. The measure for this is that we get as much sunburn as when we were kids, but without the tanning result. I am using the tanning measure, because it has a fairly linear relation with exposure time.
If you accepted the subjective measure that we get sunburn the same, without tanning, then it could be derived that non-damaging exposure times have decreased.
For a better estimate, a serious study would need to be conducted.
The fact that UV rays are stronger is generally known here, and that it's more of a problem in this area (Uruguay for example) than i the northern hemisphere, too. The correlation between that and the ozone layer thing, would have to be proven somehow, but I cannot provide it.
Opera had tabs ages before mozilla, and that is very recent history. That in the context of browsing, of course, tabs are a ubiquitous interface.
Anyhow, you should remember that software patents are really evil, more evil than Microsoft, and they need to be destroyed much more than IE. IE only hurts their users, but software patents hurt everyone!
OOOOk In the Southern Hemisphere, we have a real problem with the ozone "hole", that is much more of a problem here. I live in Uruguay. South America, in the most southern capital city of the world (that is not very close to the Antartic Circle, southern, but it's closer than the equator. I am a white guy, not pink, but white, think French and Spanish ethnicity. I used to go to the beach when I was a kid, in the early eghties. I went every summer day swimming in the sea all day, and got a golden tan after a week, without sun screen. Nowadays, if I don't use sun block, I get burned. I can never stay enough at the sun to get some tan, and not get burned. Instead of a healthy golden tan I get a lobster look. I have pictures to prove it, but I'm not very proud of them:) The last healty tan I got was in Miami Beach, in the US, two years ago, qhere the sun hits much more vertically, but through a thicker ozone layer.
The industry of artificial tanning has started to happen here since the nineties. Now they make money by spraying girls bodies with sunless tanning lotion.
That ozone layer thing is very real here, and has many consequences, so I don't believe it could be a fraud.
Please don't tell me that I'm prejudiced. You may have noticed that almost all of the truly horrible things that happen unprovoked in the world today happen because some asshole decided that it was the 'will of Allah' that such a thing should happen.
Such a thing did happen. Remember when the US bombed Bagdad?
When that analogy was created, it worked. Not everybody were familiar with win95.
On the last point, yeasterday I tried to install a win system, in order to run MatLab for win, and it wouldn't boot, after installation, nobody could help me, I had to use my DOS mind and perform a SYS C:, and it worked. Plus, I had to search the house to find the license. WIn is easy only if you buy it preinstalled. And there are GNU/Linux preinstalled boxes to be bought, at least here in Uruguay. Knoppix is insert-the-cd and play. If you like it, install it, it's a no brainer.
I don't know you, but I jumped off the station wagons a few years ago, and the controls I used to know are not there anymore, and have been replaced by stuff I don't understand. They require third party stuff in order to work, and I don't know where to find it. They need to phone home everyday in order to stay operative, and I don't know, or want to learn how to do that.
Everyday I see a new windows desktop there's something more I need to learn. And I would need to change models, because older ones are insecure and not supported. Slackware hasn't changed the "controls" for many years now, but I could even use an old one, and just keep it secure.
Just because you have taken the time to re-learn everything everytime MS sells a new Windows version, it doesn't mean it's easy. It just means you know how to use it. I don't, and don't want to invest my time in that.
If you have some bug, a good way to make it go away is to give a good report from it, and the best is to actually fix it, or pay to get it fixed.
If all of the people who are almost happy with OO did contribute the equivalent to a MSOffice OEM license cost in time (reports and coding) or money, I believe OO could make them happy.
For me, OO work great, much better than any MS Office I ever had. I have always had compatibility issues with Word, and memory problems, in the past. I have 256Mb now, and I find OO a bit slow on starting, but I won't when I get 512Mb, so it's a problem not even worth fixing. It would be slower to have to dual-boot.
Compatibility? Good enough for me. I mean, better that what I was accustomed to, on different versions of office. I write combined writer/calc documents, and they open alright on MSword. I don't need much more. If something fails, I know it's most of the time MS fault, from experience. All of the failure stories I hear from OO, have happened to me between versions of MSOffice. Even between NT-win98 versions of the same software.
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"Hello. Rich people give the MOST to society (economically anyways) per capita. We want more rich people, not less and suggesting they have a "limited call on their wealth" is not just uninformative and uninsightful, it is downright insulting."
Rich people give the most back to society, per capita. They give the LEAST to society, per unit of capital. Of course, come to think of it, in a society where you have rich and poor people, it isn't about social justice, but about rentability. So, the per-capita numbers are useless. Rich people are a bad place for society to put their money, they give less rentability. From a capitalistic point of view, everything else equal, it would make economic sense to take money from the rich, and give it to the poor, because the give more rentability, or increase the rentability of rich people, taxing them much more, like some north european countries do.
OOOOOOk That would be a wealthy country. Most of the people who do have bad credit do because they don't have the means to pay for their needs. It happens all throughough Latin America, for example. The world is bigger than the US+WestEurope, and there are more people outside than inside. And most of us that are outside, don't see such a close relationship between finances and real people.
$389 for a small, sleek, 15" flat, good at displaying text, reasonable power comsuming monitor, maybe digital capable.
half the price for a big, bulky (as in taking a lot of desk space) 18" (not 19", because black border takes at least an inch) spheric monitor (because trinitrons are not that cheap, and flat monitors are dim-or-expensive), fuzzy, power hungry monitor.
I believe many people believe it's a great deal. When it comes to 17 inchers, it's a non issue, if you can afford it.
I can't afford another monitor right now, so I have a 17" IBM refurbished CRT, but I'm sure my next monitor will be LCD, because OLEDs are a long way from getting that cheap.
I'm sorry, I don't live in the US, but that's an issue that shows up every time, and is very politized.
Why is that every time someone talks about suing of being sued, there's someone saying that they can't afford it?
I live in Uruguay, and we son't have such a developed legal system, and it very inefficient, but I wouldn't think twice about hiring a lawyer, because some will be expensive, but not all of them, and an individual facing legal trouble can afford them. Plus, aside from the fact that the some courts might have a price, there is no direct relationship between money you spend and chances to win, if you have a clear case against you.
I would like to know how does a guy stand for himself in the US system, where courts seem to be clean, but slashdotters say they can't afford the system, (and probably slashdotters aren't the lowest wage demographics in the US). From here it sounds like: if big corp says: jump! you jump, and that's it. I don't understand why the population of the wealthiest country in the work put up with that shit, if they in fact do.
Slackware 4.0 and beyond have a nice, clean installer. You put in the CD, and receive a message that says: type SETUP. You type SETUP, and everything is self-explanatory, including a useful Help button. You follow every step, and everything gets installed. At the end, it configures your ethernet, timezone, and stuff. If you don't want to mess with packages, you can always install the full distro.
That has been true for 7, 8, 9, and the part of 10 _I have seen , and the installer hasn't changed. The benefit of that is that it feels _familiar_ (to a former slack user) , or, as Windows users say when they meet Windows-style apps, "user friendly" (to former Win users, like Suse, and KDE stuff). That is a usability issue with other distros, they keep hanging the install procedure (for example, Yast was a pain, before 8.1, now at least it doesn't change much)
It has three major "desktop user" problems.
- After a clean install, you need someone to tell you that you need to use xf86cfg (or whatever it's called now) to get to the desktop. (maybe init 4)
- Printers are not configured in the default procedure.
- The install procedure doesn't install slapt-get or swaret by default, so you can auto-upgrade your packages.
So, slackware is not the easiest distro to install, but the distro + a floppy with a three-line bash script in fact make the easiest (and cleanest) distro to install.
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I believe most of the talk about slack being a hard distro comes from the earlier times, when it was one of the few distros, and there was no "desktop environment", we just used window managers, and many "desktop apps" (windows-style apps) weren't available for GNU/Linux. Plus, we were all double-booting with win, and re-partitioning, which is kind of a hard task, and now not so many people need that step in their install. Now, the install is simpler because the system is usable enough that you can use you machine exclusively on free software, so the problems asociated with double booting (wich are the hardest) are gone.
But I believe that when people say Slackware is harder, they are talking from conceptions adquired in the nineties (3.4), and not from versions 4.0 and beyond.
Other than that, slackware is much friendlier when it comes to installing non-popular software, because most installs provide headers for common libraries, that "desktop oriented" distros don't provide. Try to install an updated version of "gaim" in a SuSE 8.x, so you can use "updated" MSN protocols. WIth slack, you can always compile your own, or ask a friend yo ssh to your machine and do it.
Maybe Bush is not the one to blame in his crusades, but the (more than ) half-a-country that stands behind him (or at least does not stand against him, what equates to supporting him).
The US (government, but in representation of its people) has promoted war in many places of the world, and that has been the source of wealth in the US. "Free trade", in the US sense of "freedom", is not opposed to war, military stuff can be traded too. Closed markets can be "liberated" with weapons.
Aside from the fact that that is an interesting way to look at things (if what you say were true, maybe a program recompiled by a licensee would no longer have copyright issues), you are taking an incorrect assumption.
Commercial software doesn't have to be proprietary. I use non-proprietary commercial software, and get paid to produce it exclusively, too, and I am not alone in the universe. Commercial does not mean proprietary.
But if you did the calculations with the help of a computer, it might be better to use a numerical method, where the error iduced by FP representation is already taken into account.
I don't know exactly how it works in the US, but maybe if you buy smething from someone, you are inducing them to crime, so maybe you could charge them with cracking the zombies (if there is some law against it), but not with the rental part, and actual use of them (theft of power, DoS, or whatever), because you are buying that service.
D3D is just not enough for real 3d graphics. Games are nice, and drive a nice portion of the industry, but OpenGL is much more than Unreal Tournament, and Doom. D3D is not an option if you are talking about high performance cards. Plus, closed standards are not an option if your whole business relies on them. Even if OpenGL were "technically" inferior to D3D in some aspects, it would still be the safest choice, if your business is not games (developing, or playing [Anyway, specifically for gaming, even consoles are a safest bet, both for players and developers]).
I agree with you, I don't think it's flamebait, it's just slightly offtopic.
I believe that developers of free software (software libre) do deserve more respect than the ones that don't, from an ethical standpoint. Proprietary software has restrictions that many of us (sadly not _that_ many) feel should not exist. Software is one of the most important tools for any field, and restricting, or working for those who restrict the use of software, is not something admirable _ethically_. That, plus I believe ethics is more important that technical capabilities. So, there you have, at least someone believes the guy who wrote mIRC _is_ less worthy of respect for that fact than the one who maintains or supports free (GPL, BSD..) software.
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Mozilla is client software, not server software.
You could have found Mozilla bugs yourself (or someone you paid) if you wanted or _needed_ to.
Noone has to rewrite their server software because of a mozilla security hole. MS bug record doesn't compare to Mozilla.
Mozilla is just a foundation that produces a browser and some other things. A client app.
They don't charge you for using their software , and then cost you much more money. They don't force their licenses on your new hardware.
There is no way you can compare Mozilla with MS.
I'm not clear here, so you mean they did find a correlation? I know the feeling here is that it is real, and from informal observation it looks like it is, but it would be nice to have some scientific evidence to back it up.
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No entendí bien, lo que decis es que sí encontraron correlación entre el agujero y los efectos en la piel de la gente de Usuahia?? Porque se siente así, y "experimentalmente" yo lo veo así, acá en Uruguay, pero estaría bueno tener alguna evidencia científica.
No, it just means the current administration wanted to have their war. Not one person I know who actually has a coherent thought in their head thinks the war was justified on the basis of the adminstration's viewpoint of "just trust us".
I don't understand that.
People from the US refer to shit they do as done by the government.
The government represents _you_.
Whatever the government does is effectively supported by your actions or lack of them.
Add to that the fact that many people still support Bush, or another guy who doesn't propose a differente foreign affairs policy, and you have that the US people are well represented by Bush.
When he & friends crush a country like Afghanistan, it's not a crime by Bush, it's a crime perpetrated by the United States, with Bush & friends as their leaders, and you all as their supporters, or at least the ones who let them stay in their chairs.
I believe white kids around here do use much more SPF than before. People get a lot less tanned in general nowadays, but that could be assigned to "ozone propaganda".
Anyway what I was trying to say is that it is much harder right now to get a tan without suffering skin damage, because UV rays hit stronger now than they used to be, for example fifteen years ago.
Well, I have no scientific evidence, but both my coworkers here, and my GF have the same problem.
The perceived maximum time of unprotected exposure without damage has diminished dramatically. The measure for this is that we get as much sunburn as when we were kids, but without the tanning result.
I am using the tanning measure, because it has a fairly linear relation with exposure time.
If you accepted the subjective measure that we get sunburn the same, without tanning, then it could be derived that non-damaging exposure times have decreased.
For a better estimate, a serious study would need to be conducted.
The fact that UV rays are stronger is generally known here, and that it's more of a problem in this area (Uruguay for example) than i the northern hemisphere, too. The correlation between that and the ozone layer thing, would have to be proven somehow, but I cannot provide it.
Very interesting.
Opera had tabs ages before mozilla, and that is very recent history. That in the context of browsing, of course, tabs are a ubiquitous interface.
Anyhow, you should remember that software patents are really evil, more evil than Microsoft, and they need to be destroyed much more than IE. IE only hurts their users, but software patents hurt everyone!
OOOOk
In the Southern Hemisphere, we have a real problem with the ozone "hole", that is much more of a problem here.
I live in Uruguay. South America, in the most southern capital city of the world (that is not very close to the Antartic Circle, southern, but it's closer than the equator.
I am a white guy, not pink, but white, think French and Spanish ethnicity. I used to go to the beach when I was a kid, in the early eghties. I went every summer day swimming in the sea all day, and got a golden tan after a week, without sun screen.
Nowadays, if I don't use sun block, I get burned. I can never stay enough at the sun to get some tan, and not get burned. Instead of a healthy golden tan I get a lobster look. I have pictures to prove it, but I'm not very proud of them:)
The last healty tan I got was in Miami Beach, in the US, two years ago, qhere the sun hits much more vertically, but through a thicker ozone layer.
The industry of artificial tanning has started to happen here since the nineties. Now they make money by spraying girls bodies with sunless tanning lotion.
That ozone layer thing is very real here, and has many consequences, so I don't believe it could be a fraud.
Please don't tell me that I'm prejudiced. You may have noticed that almost all of the truly horrible things that happen unprovoked in the world today happen because some asshole decided that it was the 'will of Allah' that such a thing should happen.
Such a thing did happen.
Remember when the US bombed Bagdad?
When that analogy was created, it worked. Not everybody were familiar with win95.
On the last point, yeasterday I tried to install a win system, in order to run MatLab for win, and it wouldn't boot, after installation, nobody could help me, I had to use my DOS mind and perform a SYS C:, and it worked. Plus, I had to search the house to find the license. WIn is easy only if you buy it preinstalled. And there are GNU/Linux preinstalled boxes to be bought, at least here in Uruguay.
Knoppix is insert-the-cd and play. If you like it, install it, it's a no brainer.
I don't know you, but I jumped off the station wagons a few years ago, and the controls I used to know are not there anymore, and have been replaced by stuff I don't understand.
They require third party stuff in order to work, and I don't know where to find it. They need to phone home everyday in order to stay operative, and I don't know, or want to learn how to do that.
Everyday I see a new windows desktop there's something more I need to learn.
And I would need to change models, because older ones are insecure and not supported.
Slackware hasn't changed the "controls" for many years now, but I could even use an old one, and just keep it secure.
Just because you have taken the time to re-learn everything everytime MS sells a new Windows version, it doesn't mean it's easy. It just means you know how to use it. I don't, and don't want to invest my time in that.
If you have some bug, a good way to make it go away is to give a good report from it, and the best is to actually fix it, or pay to get it fixed.
If all of the people who are almost happy with OO did contribute the equivalent to a MSOffice OEM license cost in time (reports and coding) or money, I believe OO could make them happy.
For me, OO work great, much better than any MS Office I ever had. I have always had compatibility issues with Word, and memory problems, in the past. I have 256Mb now, and I find OO a bit slow on starting, but I won't when I get 512Mb, so it's a problem not even worth fixing. It would be slower to have to dual-boot.
Compatibility? Good enough for me. I mean, better that what I was accustomed to, on different versions of office. I write combined writer/calc documents, and they open alright on MSword. I don't need much more. If something fails, I know it's most of the time MS fault, from experience. All of the failure stories I hear from OO, have happened to me between versions of MSOffice. Even between NT-win98 versions of the same software.
"Hello. Rich people give the MOST to society (economically anyways) per capita. We want more rich people, not less and suggesting they have a "limited call on their wealth" is not just uninformative and uninsightful, it is downright insulting."
Rich people give the most back to society, per capita. They give the LEAST to society, per unit of capital. Of course, come to think of it, in a society where you have rich and poor people, it isn't about social justice, but about rentability. So, the per-capita numbers are useless. Rich people are a bad place for society to put their money, they give less rentability. From a capitalistic point of view, everything else equal, it would make economic sense to take money from the rich, and give it to the poor, because the give more rentability, or increase the rentability of rich people, taxing them much more, like some north european countries do.
OOOOOOk
That would be a wealthy country.
Most of the people who do have bad credit do because they don't have the means to pay for their needs. It happens all throughough Latin America, for example. The world is bigger than the US+WestEurope, and there are more people outside than inside. And most of us that are outside, don't see such a close relationship between finances and real people.
That is not true.
$389 for a small, sleek, 15" flat, good at displaying text, reasonable power comsuming monitor, maybe digital capable.
half the price for a big, bulky (as in taking a lot of desk space) 18" (not 19", because black border takes at least an inch) spheric monitor (because trinitrons are not that cheap, and flat monitors are dim-or-expensive), fuzzy, power hungry monitor.
I believe many people believe it's a great deal. When it comes to 17 inchers, it's a non issue, if you can afford it.
I can't afford another monitor right now, so I have a 17" IBM refurbished CRT, but I'm sure my next monitor will be LCD, because OLEDs are a long way from getting that cheap.
Sparc assembler, you mean, of course.
I'm sorry, I don't live in the US, but that's an issue that shows up every time, and is very
politized.
Why is that every time someone talks about suing of being sued, there's someone saying that they can't afford it?
I live in Uruguay, and we son't have such a developed legal system, and it very inefficient, but I wouldn't think twice about hiring a lawyer, because some will be expensive, but not all of them, and an individual facing legal trouble can afford them. Plus, aside from the fact that the some courts might have a price, there is no direct relationship between money you spend and chances to win, if you have a clear case against you.
I would like to know how does a guy stand for himself in the US system, where courts seem to be clean, but slashdotters say they can't afford the system, (and probably slashdotters aren't the lowest wage demographics in the US). From here it sounds like: if big corp says: jump! you jump, and that's it. I don't understand why the population of the wealthiest country in the work put up with that shit, if they in fact do.
It has been very popular, in continental China, for milleniums now.
I missed the above post that makes many of the same points.
Slackware 4.0 and beyond have a nice, clean installer. You put in the CD, and receive a message that says: type SETUP.
You type SETUP, and everything is self-explanatory, including a useful Help button.
You follow every step, and everything gets installed. At the end, it configures your ethernet, timezone, and stuff.
If you don't want to mess with packages, you can always install the full distro.
That has been true for 7, 8, 9, and the part of 10 _I have seen , and the installer hasn't changed. The benefit of that is that it feels _familiar_ (to a former slack user) , or, as Windows users say when they meet Windows-style apps, "user friendly" (to former Win users, like Suse, and KDE stuff). That is a usability issue with other distros, they keep hanging the install procedure (for example, Yast was a pain, before 8.1, now at least it doesn't change much)
It has three major "desktop user" problems.
- After a clean install, you need someone to tell you that you need to use xf86cfg (or whatever it's called now) to get to the desktop. (maybe init 4)
- Printers are not configured in the default procedure.
- The install procedure doesn't install slapt-get or swaret by default, so you can auto-upgrade your packages.
So, slackware is not the easiest distro to install, but the distro + a floppy with a three-line bash script in fact make the easiest (and cleanest) distro to install.
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I believe most of the talk about slack being a hard distro comes from the earlier times, when it was one of the few distros, and there was no "desktop environment", we just used window managers, and many "desktop apps" (windows-style apps) weren't available for GNU/Linux. Plus, we were all double-booting with win, and re-partitioning, which is kind of a hard task, and now not so many people need that step in their install. Now, the install is simpler because the system is usable enough that you can use you machine exclusively on free software, so the problems asociated with double booting (wich are the hardest) are gone.
But I believe that when people say Slackware is harder, they are talking from conceptions adquired in the nineties (3.4), and not from versions 4.0 and beyond.
Other than that, slackware is much friendlier when it comes to installing non-popular software, because most installs provide headers for common libraries, that "desktop oriented" distros don't provide.
Try to install an updated version of "gaim" in a SuSE 8.x, so you can use "updated" MSN protocols. WIth slack, you can always compile your own, or ask a friend yo ssh to your machine and do it.
Maybe Bush is not the one to blame in his crusades, but the (more than ) half-a-country that stands behind him (or at least does not stand against him, what equates to supporting him).
The US (government, but in representation of its people) has promoted war in many places of the world, and that has been the source of wealth in the US. "Free trade", in the US sense of "freedom", is not opposed to war, military stuff can be traded too. Closed markets can be "liberated" with weapons.
In socialism, capital is owned by the ones who make it work (employees?). In communism, the concept of property starts to fade.
Aside from the fact that that is an interesting way to look at things (if what you say were true, maybe a program recompiled by a licensee would no longer have copyright issues), you are taking an incorrect assumption.
Commercial software doesn't have to be proprietary. I use non-proprietary commercial software, and get paid to produce it exclusively, too, and I am not alone in the universe. Commercial does not mean proprietary.
But if you did the calculations with the help of a computer, it might be better to use a numerical method, where the error iduced by FP representation is already taken into account.
I don't know exactly how it works in the US, but maybe if you buy smething from someone, you are inducing them to crime, so maybe you could charge them with cracking the zombies (if there is some law against it), but not with the rental part, and actual use of them (theft of power, DoS, or whatever), because you are buying that service.
D3D is just not enough for real 3d graphics. Games are nice, and drive a nice portion of the industry, but OpenGL is much more than Unreal Tournament, and Doom. D3D is not an option if you are talking about high performance cards.
Plus, closed standards are not an option if your whole business relies on them. Even if OpenGL were "technically" inferior to D3D in some aspects, it would still be the safest choice, if your business is not games (developing, or playing [Anyway, specifically for gaming, even consoles are a safest bet, both for players and developers]).
I agree with you, I don't think it's flamebait, it's just slightly offtopic.
I believe that developers of free software (software libre) do deserve more respect than the ones that don't, from an ethical standpoint.
Proprietary software has restrictions that many of us (sadly not _that_ many) feel should not exist.
Software is one of the most important tools for any field, and restricting, or working for those who restrict the use of software, is not something admirable _ethically_.
That, plus I believe ethics is more important that technical capabilities. So, there you have, at least someone believes the guy who wrote mIRC _is_ less worthy of respect for that fact than the one who maintains or supports free (GPL, BSD..) software.