If you just read the thread, you will find many people bitching about this not being news and all, and many people saying how much they like Joe, and how it reminds them of XX time, and how they didn't feel the need to switch editors one they found Joe.
Maybe the news is for them, and not for you, but if you read the thread, you might find that there are a lot of nerds out there for whom this is really news, for me in particular, it means I can dump kate which I only used for the syntax highlighting.
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You have just stated just another flame against Emacs, nothing about Joe. Joe is as modeless as an editor gets, you don't need to switch modes to edit your files, but it has some modes for the file manager, and the configuration editor, but you really don't need those, since you can edit/etc/joe/joerc, which doesn't sound so crazy if you are a joe user in the first place. Anyhow, it is great for _my_ generation, those who hate menus, and point-and-clickety things, but won't touch vi with a loong stick, the DOS generation.
I don't think that is funny. XML encoded VRML2.0, or X3D, and displayed with OpenGL acceleration, is a nice format, although it might be a commercial failure.
Allright, sorry, there are so many whiners and bitchers about great projects that I get a little oversensitive. On realted news, it can be less than a few years, maybe 1 year, because I am starting to get the expertise in renderman to make such a converter, or improve one, and have seen the necessity myself for a good Renderman export. After I finish the university, it's on my to-do list, a Renderman export in blender, for use with a GPU enhanced renderer.
Why offtopic? censoring won't make them dissappear, and killing that amount of people was the reason why the US funded research in that field, and made that formula famous. Denial is not going to bring murdered people back.
Piracy is attacking ships, killing, raping, robbing. Distributing things for free is usually helping a friend, or at least helping people. By the way, if you want to make money writing and designing software, and selling licenses, good luck. I think that is a dying trend for anyone smaller than MS.
I make a living designing and writing software where I deliver sources, and don't claim exclusive rights, much like the BSD license, because if the customers pay for the software, I think they should have it anyway they want it.
Please, stop whining, if Blender folks don't want to integrate with Renderman, there are many things you can do to change that. You can pay them, or someone else to do it, or code it yourself, or raise the money for the feature. Anyway, those are things you can do with the thousands of dollars you are saving for not buying maya, and you could help others, whining and bitching doesn't help anybody.
Ever heard of pacemakers? There are computer stuff that control people's lifes, and they can be built software-error free, although it's incredibly expensive, but in this case, it's worth the money.
A lot of boys and girls and I (about 40), 19 years ago, were learning to program LOGO on two texas instruments, taught by two school teachers, in some kind of community school. 15 of them were in my elementary school. We all learned to program LOGO by the age of 8, and started with BASIC(yuck) by 9. Although we could be classified as intelligent kids, most of us were not nerds (I am, though) and not geniuses either.
We just had good teachers, and a great language (LOGO, which is much closer to modern languages than BASIC is), and did C00l stuff, like simple programmed animations with moving sprites, and video games (LOGO rulz!!).
We were not the typical computer user, because there was not such thing, but we were many regular kids who could program by the age of 8 and still be regular kids. By the way, in my country (Uruguay) there were many experiences like that, but at least this one was very successful, and to me it proves at least that 8 year olds are old enough to program, while my mother who is 51, won't learn how to use a multi-CD player. (that meaning that if you can't use technology it's not because you don't have the capacity, but just because you are spoiled)
I don't think so. Interfaces can be measured through numbers. Once you have agreed which characteristics are desirable (quickness of response, learning time, efficiency), you can build a framework where you can measure those things, and experiment until you have an interface that performs well according to your expectation. That, at least, might be not 100% sobjective. If that was too subjective for you, you can try googling for cognitive engineering which is a way of making designing critical interfaces, and as a discipline is responsible of some aspects of the design of many human - computer interfaces that we use nowadays.
The problem here is the one who gets the freedom. Public domain is about more freedom for the next guy, meaning the immediate user that got the stuff from you, or the distributor that took your code and repackaged it. Public domain does not ensure the freedom of people who get the stuff via a redistributor. That works well when you are famous and everybody can come to you for the next release of your work. When you rely on redistributors, GPL ensures the freedom of the user at the end of the distribution chain, it doesn't care about redistributors, and developers, it's always about the user.
Now, if you think of it from the user's point of view, yes, the GPL is "more free" than public domain, because it protects more their freedom.
Wrong, he doesn't say that any kernel should be prefixed with "GNU". Linux is Linux, The GNU/Linux system is an OS, not a kernel, it's just like FreeBSD, or Solaris, or MacOSX (not like mach, which is a [micro] kernel), or like the GNU/Hurd system, which is not very usable for most people, but exists.
Although the main purpose of these people is keeping water out of the case, they built a case submerged in oil, and it must work for cooling, because oil can reach 150C without boiling, at least.
You were told to get a new java and a new machine. You complained here on slashdot. I explained you why you had been told to get a new java and a new machine, that there was some fundament behind that. If you didn't read, I just told you that only in the past was java slow, and in the present and the future it is not. The problem is with people that want the technology of today and tomorrow running on yesterdays software and hardware. You may like it or not, but I have already answered that in my post, this is not "yet another excuse", it is an explanation why "get another machine" is the reasonable thing to do if you have speed problems with java.
All those are reasonable claims. If you came bitchin about Slackware 3.4 I would tell you to go use Slack 9.1. You can say that all MS software is shit, but you should bitch about XP, not about win95. Same thing happens with Java.
The biggest problem is that Microsoft shipped a shitty 1.1 java version for many years, thus people who thought they had java, just had a 4 year old VM.
Java is faster where it matters, debug time!! I as a programmer am very happy not having to deal anymore with alloc's and arrays out of bounds!
As most of my current work has a web interface, I like java servlets, because it is easy to program complex systems in java, and _for_me_ it's easier to maintain than php. Servlets are real fast.
Anyway, java graphical interfaces are very slow. But compared to what? Windows, which takes forever to load its graphical interface? or kde, which takes a looong time intializing some DCOP crap when I want to load the only kde application I use? or gnome? well, gnome is not that slow, but it is slow anyway. I think that anyway, on load times, graphical java application are not the slowest, but among the fastest loaders.
Now it comes to the issue of hardware acceleration. Windows graphical interfaces are fast because they use some acceleration that slow graphics cards (SIS, anyone?) provide, so windows interfaces are not thaaat slow. When you have a decent graphic card (not a gforcefx5950, just a matrox g100 or a savage4, or a TNT) you start to see that maybe it was not that slow. When you get a faster card, you start to understand that mabe java is just as fast in the desktop as it is in the server, it just was slow in its old version , with old video cards, and in windows, compared to others that were optimized for that situation.
-- End of rant. -- Java was always fast, on the server. Java was slow, on the GUI, in windows, with old video cards. Java is fast, on the GUI too, in any platform, with "new" video cards.
And, if you don't want to try it, well, I think it's your loss, meanwhile I am going to finish my own photon mapping renderer for java, so I can match up my times with this guy's.
There are not several different sports. Football is football. Australian football is that game that looks like rugby, but only people from Australia watch. American football likewise, but only people from the US watch it. The only ones who have the same name for two sports are the US, the rest of the world have no problem. Anyway, I don't think anybody from outside the US watches American Football, at least in Latin American ESPN and ESPN2, it's easier to find table tennis than it is American Footbal, so when they announce "futbol en ESPN" we all know what they are talking about.
I love to _tell_ the computer to do stuff for me, I hate doing it myself. I like telling the computer to move my files, I hate "dragging" them between windows, it's a job I didn't want to do in the first place. I know it is the way people are used to file files, but I didn't like filing files in the first place!!
Many source packages have.MD5 signatures. The builder of the package trusts the web page, then you can rely that source security >= package security in every case.
I know its part of Cuba, but it is just one of the resources the US authorities have to deprive people of the freedom and rights they value so much and think they have.
Not piracy, not stealing. Copyright protection is not a natural right. It is just a bargain that the country does with the creative guy, to enrich from his ideas. The guy is given a monopoly to sell his creation, and the public benefits, because some years later everyone can have it. If he didn't have that protection, maybe he wouldn't want to share, and so, this protection seems reasonable, and good for both parties. Anyway, now we are seing that "the creative guy" is just a greedy company (is there any other kind?) that profits from creative people. Maybe now it is time to change the terms of the bargain. Maybe, just maybe, the world has changed in a way that makes most people share their stuff without that monopoly they are offered now. And in that case, it would make sense to rethink that bargain and change completely the way we deal with creations, taking into account that the idea of those laws is the benefit of the public through the incentive for new creative works.
Anyway, before I started ranting, I was trying to say that as copyright is not a "right" but a "contract", failing to comply with that contract is not "stealing", and people who copy CDs are in no way "pirates". Pirates did attack ships, kill, steal (I can think of an army that does that). I think it is a stupid term to define copyright infringement, killing people is bad, period. Copying CDs is bad for one company, and good for the public in general, I don't think it is just wrong because your law says so, I just think the law is wrong.
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If you just read the thread, you will find many people bitching about this not being news and all, and many people saying how much they like Joe, and how it reminds them of XX time, and how they didn't feel the need to switch editors one they found Joe.
Maybe the news is for them, and not for you, but if you read the thread, you might find that there are a lot of nerds out there for whom this is really news, for me in particular, it means I can dump kate which I only used for the syntax highlighting.
You have just stated just another flame against Emacs, nothing about Joe. Joe is as modeless as an editor gets, you don't need to switch modes to edit your files, but it has some modes for the file manager, and the configuration editor, but you really don't need those, since you can edit /etc/joe/joerc, which doesn't sound so crazy if you are a joe user in the first place. Anyhow, it is great for _my_ generation, those who hate menus, and point-and-clickety things, but won't touch vi with a loong stick, the DOS generation.
I don't think that is funny. XML encoded VRML2.0, or X3D, and displayed with OpenGL acceleration, is a nice format, although it might be a commercial failure.
Allright, sorry, there are so many whiners and bitchers about great projects that I get a little oversensitive.
On realted news, it can be less than a few years, maybe 1 year, because I am starting to get the expertise in renderman to make such a converter, or improve one, and have seen the necessity myself for a good Renderman export. After I finish the university, it's on my to-do list, a Renderman export in blender, for use with a GPU enhanced renderer.
It sounded funny in my head, maybe I will have to tune my sarcarm-o-tronic device a little lower, sorry.
Why offtopic? censoring won't make them dissappear, and killing that amount of people was the reason why the US funded research in that field, and made that formula famous.
Denial is not going to bring murdered people back.
Piracy is attacking ships, killing, raping, robbing.
Distributing things for free is usually helping a friend, or at least helping people.
By the way, if you want to make money writing and designing software, and selling licenses, good luck. I think that is a dying trend for anyone smaller than MS.
I make a living designing and writing software where I deliver sources, and don't claim exclusive rights, much like the BSD license, because if the customers pay for the software, I think they should have it anyway they want it.
The Perl reference books have visible marks where I thumb through the pages frequently.
Damn! whatever happened to washing your hands?
The GNU/Linux platform, thank you very much, I don't think you could build much on top of just a kernel.
By the way, GPL has nothing to do with price, you can charge it and still keep it GPL'ed.
Please, stop whining, if Blender folks don't want to integrate with Renderman, there are many things you can do to change that. You can pay them, or someone else to do it, or code it yourself, or raise the money for the feature.
Anyway, those are things you can do with the thousands of dollars you are saving for not buying maya, and you could help others, whining and bitching doesn't help anybody.
Ever heard of pacemakers?
There are computer stuff that control people's lifes, and they can be built software-error free, although it's incredibly expensive, but in this case, it's worth the money.
A lot of boys and girls and I (about 40), 19 years ago, were learning to program LOGO on two texas instruments, taught by two school teachers, in some kind of community school. 15 of them were in my elementary school. We all learned to program LOGO by the age of 8, and started with BASIC(yuck) by 9. Although we could be classified as intelligent kids, most of us were not nerds (I am, though) and not geniuses either.
We just had good teachers, and a great language (LOGO, which is much closer to modern languages than BASIC is), and did C00l stuff, like simple programmed animations with moving sprites, and video games (LOGO rulz!!).
We were not the typical computer user, because there was not such thing, but we were many regular kids who could program by the age of 8 and still be regular kids. By the way, in my country (Uruguay) there were many experiences like that, but at least this one was very successful, and to me it proves at least that 8 year olds are old enough to program, while my mother who is 51, won't learn how to use a multi-CD player. (that meaning that if you can't use technology it's not because you don't have the capacity, but just because you are spoiled)
I don't think so.
Interfaces can be measured through numbers. Once you have agreed which characteristics are desirable (quickness of response, learning time, efficiency), you can build a framework where you can measure those things, and experiment until you have an interface that performs well according to your expectation.
That, at least, might be not 100% sobjective.
If that was too subjective for you, you can try googling for cognitive engineering which is a way of making designing critical interfaces, and as a discipline is responsible of some aspects of the design of many human - computer interfaces that we use nowadays.
The problem here is the one who gets the freedom. Public domain is about more freedom for the next guy, meaning the immediate user that got the stuff from you, or the distributor that took your code and repackaged it. Public domain does not ensure the freedom of people who get the stuff via a redistributor. That works well when you are famous and everybody can come to you for the next release of your work. When you rely on redistributors, GPL ensures the freedom of the user at the end of the distribution chain, it doesn't care about redistributors, and developers, it's always about the user.
Now, if you think of it from the user's point of view, yes, the GPL is "more free" than public domain, because it protects more their freedom.
Wrong, he doesn't say that any kernel should be prefixed with "GNU". Linux is Linux, The GNU/Linux system is an OS, not a kernel, it's just like FreeBSD, or Solaris, or MacOSX (not like mach, which is a [micro] kernel), or like the GNU/Hurd system, which is not very usable for most people, but exists.
Check TorderaWireless.
Although the main purpose of these people is keeping water out of the case, they built a case submerged in oil, and it must work for cooling, because oil can reach 150C without boiling, at least.
Perhaps you didn't understand me.
You were told to get a new java and a new machine. You complained here on slashdot.
I explained you why you had been told to get a new java and a new machine, that there was some fundament behind that. If you didn't read, I just told you that only in the past was java slow, and in the present and the future it is not. The problem is with people that want the technology of today and tomorrow running on yesterdays software and hardware.
You may like it or not, but I have already answered that in my post, this is not "yet another excuse", it is an explanation why "get another machine" is the reasonable thing to do if you have speed problems with java.
All those are reasonable claims. If you came bitchin about Slackware 3.4 I would tell you to go use Slack 9.1. You can say that all MS software is shit, but you should bitch about XP, not about win95. Same thing happens with Java.
The biggest problem is that Microsoft shipped a shitty 1.1 java version for many years, thus people who thought they had java, just had a 4 year old VM.
Java is faster where it matters, debug time!! I as a programmer am very happy not having to deal anymore with alloc's and arrays out of bounds!
As most of my current work has a web interface, I like java servlets, because it is easy to program complex systems in java, and _for_me_ it's easier to maintain than php. Servlets are real fast.
Anyway, java graphical interfaces are very slow. But compared to what? Windows, which takes forever to load its graphical interface? or kde, which takes a looong time intializing some DCOP crap when I want to load the only kde application I use? or gnome? well, gnome is not that slow, but it is slow anyway. I think that anyway, on load times, graphical java application are not the slowest, but among the fastest loaders.
Now it comes to the issue of hardware acceleration. Windows graphical interfaces are fast because they use some acceleration that slow graphics cards (SIS, anyone?) provide, so windows interfaces are not thaaat slow. When you have a decent graphic card (not a gforcefx5950, just a matrox g100 or a savage4, or a TNT) you start to see that maybe it was not that slow. When you get a faster card, you start to understand that mabe java is just as fast in the desktop as it is in the server, it just was slow in its old version , with old video cards, and in windows, compared to others that were optimized for that situation.
-- End of rant. --
Java was always fast, on the server.
Java was slow, on the GUI, in windows, with old video cards.
Java is fast, on the GUI too, in any platform, with "new" video cards.
And, if you don't want to try it, well, I think it's your loss, meanwhile I am going to finish my own photon mapping renderer for java, so I can match up my times with this guy's.
There are not several different sports. Football is football. Australian football is that game that looks like rugby, but only people from Australia watch. American football likewise, but only people from the US watch it.
The only ones who have the same name for two sports are the US, the rest of the world have no problem.
Anyway, I don't think anybody from outside the US watches American Football, at least in Latin American ESPN and ESPN2, it's easier to find table tennis than it is American Footbal, so when they announce "futbol en ESPN" we all know what they are talking about.
I love to _tell_ the computer to do stuff for me, I hate doing it myself. I like telling the computer to move my files, I hate "dragging" them between windows, it's a job I didn't want to do in the first place. I know it is the way people are used to file files, but I didn't like filing files in the first place!!
Many source packages have .MD5 signatures.
The builder of the package trusts the web page, then you can rely that source security >= package security in every case.
I know its part of Cuba, but it is just one of the resources the US authorities have to deprive people of the freedom and rights they value so much and think they have.
I don't know what you call Guantanamo, but I thought it was part of the US territory.
There is where you go when they want to jail you for nothing.
Not piracy, not stealing.
Copyright protection is not a natural right. It is just a bargain that the country does with the creative guy, to enrich from his ideas. The guy is given a monopoly to sell his creation, and the public benefits, because some years later everyone can have it. If he didn't have that protection, maybe he wouldn't want to share, and so, this protection seems reasonable, and good for both parties.
Anyway, now we are seing that "the creative guy" is just a greedy company (is there any other kind?) that profits from creative people. Maybe now it is time to change the terms of the bargain. Maybe, just maybe, the world has changed in a way that makes most people share their stuff without that monopoly they are offered now. And in that case, it would make sense to rethink that bargain and change completely the way we deal with creations, taking into account that the idea of those laws is the benefit of the public through the incentive for new creative works.
Anyway, before I started ranting, I was trying to say that as copyright is not a "right" but a "contract", failing to comply with that contract is not "stealing", and people who copy CDs are in no way "pirates".
Pirates did attack ships, kill, steal (I can think of an army that does that). I think it is a stupid term to define copyright infringement, killing people is bad, period. Copying CDs is bad for one company, and good for the public in general, I don't think it is just wrong because your law says so, I just think the law is wrong.
Don't worry, we have all been there