He can tell whatever stories he wants to in order to promote himself or his business. Lies in those situations are to be expected. CBS is the group responsible, in this case, for determining how much is verifiable. If you're surprised that the news isn't fact checking well, then you've not been watching the news for the past decade or so.
look up NEWSROOM - it's not synonymous with TALKING HEAD
also, you clearly don't WATCH enough Fox news to know what they do or do not report, because I don't watch a lot of it, and yet I saw them discussing every major republican scandal that every other news org discussed.
As to the recount, it was the NEW YORK TIMES that reported their recount showed BUSH taking Florida. Learn to read, and get over it.
Isn't point 3 more than a little bit stupid? I mean, if "terrorists" are making money of bootlegs, and supporting that is immoral, than isn't the moral thing to do if you;re not sure if you're bying a bootleg or not to file-share? I mean, if PAYING for something is supporting terrorism, getting it for free sure can't be.
I work as a systems admin for a small business network with both Macs and Windows machines. I am learning my way around unix and linux machines to increase my worth, but for now, I can't fairly include them in my analysis.
I also was not giving apple credit over anyone else, nor being a mac fanboi. I choose to use a macbook pro as my personal machine, and that choice was greatly affected by the availability of bootcamp.
Many others have delt with the criticism about the lack of free options, but I was arguing a different point. I was saying that the article was wrong to criticise the extra costs in exchange for stability. Both personally and professionally, I have spent fewer hours of frustration with Macs than with Windoze boxes. They cost more to start with, and sometimes you need to spend more money on them to solve specific problems properly, but that is the cost of stability.
As to installing X11 and gnu tools - I do that as part of my setup on all my macs. It doesn't take a significant amount of time or effort.
There is a certain understanding of what right and left mean, within the realm of american politics. Mot of the news media has taken a very agressively leftist attitude. Most newsrooms (and I've been to several, and read about others) are in fact republican-free zones. I recently heard a news editor quoted as saying that his newsroom of exclusively liberal reporters was not biased, they were professional, but that a news room with only conservatives would be biased.
I was saying that from a viewpoint as objective as I can be that -5 is not as far into the negative scale as 204 is into the positive scale.
Seems like a weak point to criticize on. I mean, I haven't got a ton of money, and I recognize that from time to time I will spend a little more money being a mac user than I would if I were a PC user, but as the report admits that the system is more reliable I don't see why that is a bg deal? Is anyone who is serious about their computer NOT going to spend money on it?
I dunno, I always thought this was why being myserly was a bad thing - you penny pinch, and you end up with things that don't work right.
The Fox newsroom is almost unique in american media, because they have republican's in the newsroom. They also have liberals, and plenty of them. Visit their NY office, and speak to people... or, you know, WATCH Fox news for more than a few minutes, then watch ABC or CNN, and enable your own critical thinking.
Sure Fox has a bias, and it's a bias to the right, but they aren't NEARLY as far to the right as their competition is biased to the left. Contrary to popular belief, Fox is also critical of the whitehouse on a fairly regular basis... just not as often as other networks, nor with as much agressiveness.
"will be able to say anything they want, whenever they want"
I thought that that was part of free speech - why is he complaining?
I never understood why the FCC has the powers it does. It seems to me that there isn't a single child over 6 I've ever met who hasn't heard f@ck or sh*t spoken aloud, and I grew up watching Mel Brooks movies over and over again.
If you want to monitor what YOUR child watches, then it is your job to do so, not the FCCs.
The problems they are having are mostly network-management related. Just ecause most schools have really pathetic IT departments has nothing to do with the educational value of using computers in school. Is the pricetag of an adequate IT department high - YES, but the idea that some kids are leaving high school TO THIS DAY wotout learning to integrate a computer into their daily work is horrifying! Anyone who believes it's not an absolutely baseline neccessary skill, and will continue to be for the forseable future, is lying to themselves.
As to their educational problems - yes, some exist. That has more to do with having TEACHERS who are capable integrating computers into their programs. Having a computer and an internet connection at your fingertips CHANGES the way you work, and a lot of teachers are, frankly, morons to begin with. Especially the old-guard who can't tell a keyboard from typewriter. Anyone can buy a paper off the internet - so maybe the answer is to demand more of the student using a computer than a simple text paper.... and there are a lot of ways of detecting plagerism, and they work with a respectable level of consistency.
As to the porn, stop being so bloody prudish! This fear that child might see people having sex in nasty ways is even more stupid than the hooplah about viloent video games and television. Is it reasonable to expect the students not be porn surfing in class, sure, but if you think most of those same 14 and 15 year olds (just an example - I was porn hunting before I was 12) aren't finding porn at every chance they get - bith on and off the computer - you have forgotten what it's like to be a teenager.
I've lived in Canada, and I live currently in Israel. While I don't know about the UK, or the other countries on the list, I can most certainly tell you that Canadians don't pirate anywhere near as much as Israelis. A lot of that has to do with enfocement, too.
Just as an example, you can walk into any major bus station in Israel and find a store that sells exclusively copied CDs and DVDs. It will take the police months to close them down, and take their inventory away, but in that time they've made so much money they can afford to lose their inventory, and they just re-open after a waiting periode.
It is worse in Egypt (where I've visited) as the police there don't even make the token attempt at closing them.
I'm told by friends that it is SIGNIFICANTLY worse in places like China or Thailand. The proof one friend offered was a box of hundreds of CDs and Data DVDs that he bought for less than $10, not knowing what specifically was on the disks. There was a lot of usless crap on them, but a lot of cool stuff too. All in English, all obviously pirated.
Anyway, I'm going to assume that the UK is closer to Canada than the middle-or-far East in terms of it's level of piracy.
I'm pretty sure an "Internet Cultural Unit" is an ISP... or the police looking over the shoulders of the ISP. Same thing really.
Communists always did know how to turn a phrase and use spin - better than capitalists. While us Capitalists talk of a free market - an idea that many people can think about and get behind, but that lacks emotion - communists go on about permanent revolution - a phrase that calls to the heart, and the young. Sure, permanent revolution is only apealing if you are a revolutionary permanently, but the language is so much more appealing!
It's not even the bigger interests that are involved, although they are a big part. Actually, you could probably get the biggest companies to capitulate more easily then anyone else. IBM, M$FT, Apple, AOL, the entire telecom industry, etc. they all want problems solved and would likely agree to something like that if the people proposing it made a good show of it. It's the smaller companies that are just getting by or even the individual users who are gonna scream bloody murder if you try and change something that is working 'well enough.' How many problems (sometimes major ones) do YOU put off EVERY DAY just because fixing 'em is slightly inconvinient and everything is 'good enough' for now?
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must be able to regulate the use and dissemination of code in appropriate circumstances.
One question: WHY? While I'm not of the oppinion that ALL data should be available to everybody - eg. Items pertaining to national security, I feel, should be protected by the legal system. Hell, your credit card number while being transmitted - I also believe it should be illegal for a 3rd party to even attempt to attin that. If someone disagrees with me on these points, that discusion is for another time, but feel free to email me @ soch@whatthefuck.com - I do feel that code ld not fall under copyright laws, but under patent law. If I write a program that does something new or something old in a better way, I've INVENTED it. You can patent a process, so why not code, which is the instructions to a computer for manipulating numbers according to a certain process.
One must also take steps to aggresivly defend a patent, or one cannot open litigation against someone. Now this CAN apply to, eg. , movies, as the movie consists of code telling the program what to dosplay, in what position, in what order. Applying this phylosophy to this specific case is tough though.
Anyway, while I disagree that DeCSS can be summed up as 'simply' playing back media, it certainly doesn't BY ITSELF do anything illegal. The distribution of DeCSS is the distribution of an editing tool. DeCSS is nothing like a virus, who's very distribution causes damage, and is justly illegal.
Did anyone else notice what the judge compaired DeCSS to though? 2 things in the opening few pges infuriated me. 1) As I've mentioned, a virus. 2) AN ASSASSINATION. WTF? Where does that come from? This just about proves that the halfwit of a Judge knows nothing about which he was ruling on. A virus to an assassination is a streach - for now anyway - but a line can be drawn, vaguely. BUT A TOOL THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CIRCUMVENT STANDARD DVD-VIDEO SECURITY??? Aren't we being a little to creative? DeCSS ? John Wilkes Booth or Lee Harvey Oswald??? I can only say thank Gd that I don't live in the country that allowed an alarmist like this, who will make decisions based on extreem circumstances and comparissons, and ignorance to become a Judge!
Why is this "from the steve-jobs-love-child dept"?
What have they got to do with this? What is this departemnt anyway? is it made up of Steve's love-children? All of them? Or is it hunting them down for sadistic purpouses? or just to hold them hostage for a buch of cubes and some airport equipment and maybe a few dual processor G4s?
What do specifically Steve Job's love-children have to do with THESE quickies? These seem to be new bits of info, while a steve-love-child would have to be 15 or so at least, no? Has the man gotten laid more recently than that?
Ok - I've had my fun, but could someone please explain it?
How can companies like Sega be convinced that products that don't make them money anymore should be made GPL?"
Do you raelly believe the crap you just posted?
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T MAKE MONEY!!! What sega owns belongs to them and they make money off everything... I don't have time now, but I'm not saying we should or should not shair this stuff, but they will never make it GPL 'cuz they will ALWAYS find ways to make money with EVERY resource. If they don't NOW they will NEXT week.
"Pizza Hut is recognized as the pioneer and innovation leader in the pizza business," said Mike Rawlings, president and chief concept officer, Pizza Hut, Inc. "Our sponsorship of this critical mission tells consumers around the world that we're always looking to take Pizza Hut innovation to new heights."
... According to Rawlings, Pizza Hut believes making great pizza is "rocket science" because it requires constant innovation, futuristic thinking and a dedicated team effort to develop the world's greatest variety of pizza. In fact, in addition to the hundreds of thousands of "food maniacs" employed by Pizza Hut, there is a team of experts who focus on developing new ways to satisfy customers with innovative crust types, abundantly topped pizzas and diverse pizza styles.
I think I'm missing something. When did Pizza Hut "pioneer"? They mke pizza, and they make pizza expensive. I know the whole point of their funding this project is advertisment, but since when did a big name like Pizza Hut need to give out BS like the above?
Anyway, this is great. With NASAs record of goofs and throwing away billions of dollars again and again (did they ever do anything with that launch-site in Florida?) and he Russians' method of never replacing something that is 'good enough', it's about time a private company - with a decent auditing department - began having a say in progressing space exploration. I know that others have been involved in other projects, but that's mostly on the development end of things. I guarentee that it's NOT Pizza Hut employees who designed or built the damn thing, but I also guarentee that the PH bigwigs are gonna be watching every penny put into this project and will NOT tolerate a sloppy opperation.
Frankly, I don't mind the thought of 'Planet Pizza Hut' or the like. If I can go there, and they are partially responsable, they can call it whatever they like! I wanna walk on another planet, I don't care what the logo designed into the stratosphere might be.
(please don't mod me down for this - It was just too tempting! I doubt many people will come across the post anyway. Would it help if I said I've recently decided to learn to use linux because I'm just sick and tired of this M$ Windoze BS?!? You know you LOVE Linux users, right? whimper whimper...)
"You have no right to privacy in your email or use of the Internet at work."
I never knew it was a question. If you are getting paid per hour and you spend time sending personal Emails while not on brakeand you get caught, you deserve what you get. I'm not going to spread BS like "you're stealing frome the company", but you're certainly not doing what you're being paid to do so why should you be paid? This might not be so simple if you're paid a fixed salary, I admit, and I haven't even begun to think allong thoes lines, so I won't comment on that, but why SHOULD you have privacy on SOMEONE ELSES account. If you go to a friends house and use the net, would you ever ask them to leave the room because you wanted to do something privately, and if you did, wouldn't (s)he have the right to say "no"? What if this friend ran a proggy to record every keystroke - would that be"invading your privacy" on their computer?
If you want to send personal emails from work, and you can get away with it - have fun (I'm not saying you should do it, but if you get away with it, who's stopping you,right?), but you're taking the risk of getting caught. You're using the companies computer and the companies connection to waste the time you're getting paid for.
Whatever, enough incoherant rambling from me for now.
Why is it a problem for some (all) of you that some people have different ideals than us/.ers? hell, most of our discussions are ONLY about differences in ideals. Does anyone remember that Dilbert Toon where Phil offers Dilbet either eternal fame and poverty, or great wealth and obscurity? These people decided that they didn't want to work with OSS and tat thoes ideals just aren't for them. They might be idiots, but that's not our problem.
The only reason this MIGHT be a problem is that some of you might have a lot invested in OSS and are woried about competition, what are you? Learning a bit from Bill Gate$? Competition is GOOD! It will keep all the second-rate OSS from being it's final stage - "good enough, nothing better out there, I can stop working on it now for a year or so." If the OSS triunphs, Great! If the "gatted communities" and "big corp" SW comes out on top, than thoes who program the OSS haven't worked on it hard enough, and their stuff SHOULDN'T be prefered - we DO live in something of an open market, thoes of us in NA and EU anyways.
violently so. ESR may have some 'elitest' tendencies, so do most of us in one direction or annother. Would a plumber let an MD touch his clients plumbing? Or an MD let a plumber at his patients? Well, in each case only if the other has formal training. What he is saying is 'elitest' in the same sence. He's saying that control of computers is in the hands of the computer literate. TRUE. Have you seen the instructions that come with an Epson printer nowadays? I have a 4 yrs old cousin who could handle the job without them, and yet, rather than do it for her, when a friend asked me for help installing her new Epson, I held her hand through following the pictorial and written instructions. The sad bit is that she's a grad student. WTF? Even though computers are becoming easier and easier by the second to use, thoes who are have-nots remain so until "we" help them.
BTW: Grok v. (1) To drink (2) To eat
In any case, what makes me want to puke (again, as I part one above in this text is just that) Is reading these posts. Words like "moral" and "right" - what shtooyot (heb. nonsence/bullshit). No, I'm not saying I agree with everything ESR said - not even close! It's just that = well, you all know perfectly well what he means by "we" and by "own". You've stoped to playing the lowest sort of semantic games just because you don't feel right about what someone else has to say. In any case, it's 1am, I have more netting to do, and I have to cross half of Istanbul to get back to my bed - and, my date, maybe? - and I think I've enough on-topic stuff here so I can end. Goodnight all!
...who buitlt the first airplain? NOT a big corp. In fact it was 3 brothers. How many western US cities (and I'd rate a city over a skyscraper) were founded and developed without government or big business? Who, for that matter, discovered penicilin?
I agree that "big business" not only has it's place, but is what makes our society the way it is posable, but don't EVER underestimate your abilities. If you wanted to organise the money and manpower you COULD build that skyscraper. It may take you longer, but then you should realise that the "big businesses" have a had start.
Start thinking about one-legged men running LENGTHWISE accross Canada and making it most of the way before dyeing of Cancer (not fatuge) [Terry Fox, for thoes of you who are wondering]. Or how about the deaf and bling girl who developed brail? [If you can't figure that one out, I'm not going to help you!] --} OR her parents for that matter!
"big business" is usually one guy pushing a dream/goal of his forward to an extreem. While Bill Gates' dream may be any of 1,000,000,000 things, he pushed as hard as he could at just the right moments and was rewarded for it. Realise that EVEN M$ was once just a bunch of computer-nerds trying to develope an almost non=existant industry.
Maybe this post is less off=tropic than I thought oit would be!
I'm sorry - I didn't mean to imply that we knew better than nature, I was simply pointing out that we have no proof that Nature "knows" anything, and if "she" does, "she" hasn't proven that she knows BETTER.
B4 I go on, I want to comment that I too would like a 3-eyed-fish. I'm sorry, but I had to.
Anyway, I don't mean that all breading programs have been successful, or that everything that humans do is either inherently right OR good. I DO think that anyone who believes the race is headed for a downfall is out of their minds - we will survive, don't doubt it - but that doesn't mean we'll be good or nice about it. However there is only so much potential in Natural evolution, and so much more in Genetics that to spout "survival of the fittest" is simply the easy way o counter something new & BIG (which inspiers fear) and nothing else.
The point of my post anyway was to say that while we can't say we're always right, we're by no means always wrong either. We'll play, we'll make some mistakes, we'll got other things right the first try. We'lleventually learn from the mistakes (or die trying to fix them, which I think unlikely) and fix them, and make new ones, etc. etc. We may not necesairily know what's best for the world, but we're the only one's who have a say unless someone can stop us (no, I am not preaching death to others or some such, that is simply the way it seems to work. We have all the guns - for now anyway).
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Yeah. And. So. What?
He can tell whatever stories he wants to in order to promote himself or his business. Lies in those situations are to be expected.
CBS is the group responsible, in this case, for determining how much is verifiable. If you're surprised that the news isn't fact checking well, then you've not been watching the news for the past decade or so.
The guy told exaggerated or made up stories about himself. People who are TV writers made a TV show out of them. None of that is fraud.
Even if the writers believed him - and I think that's doubtful - he's still just telling tall-tales to writers who then write about them.
The writers are crappy writers anyway. Let them write crap.
However good this guy may be, he's gonna have a hard time handling this without a computer!
look up NEWSROOM - it's not synonymous with TALKING HEAD
also, you clearly don't WATCH enough Fox news to know what they do or do not report, because I don't watch a lot of it, and yet I saw them discussing every major republican scandal that every other news org discussed.
As to the recount, it was the NEW YORK TIMES that reported their recount showed BUSH taking Florida. Learn to read, and get over it.
Isn't point 3 more than a little bit stupid? I mean, if "terrorists" are making money of bootlegs, and supporting that is immoral, than isn't the moral thing to do if you;re not sure if you're bying a bootleg or not to file-share? I mean, if PAYING for something is supporting terrorism, getting it for free sure can't be.
oh, did I make a typo? so sorry to offend.
I work as a systems admin for a small business network with both Macs and Windows machines. I am learning my way around unix and linux machines to increase my worth, but for now, I can't fairly include them in my analysis.
I also was not giving apple credit over anyone else, nor being a mac fanboi. I choose to use a macbook pro as my personal machine, and that choice was greatly affected by the availability of bootcamp.
Many others have delt with the criticism about the lack of free options, but I was arguing a different point. I was saying that the article was wrong to criticise the extra costs in exchange for stability. Both personally and professionally, I have spent fewer hours of frustration with Macs than with Windoze boxes. They cost more to start with, and sometimes you need to spend more money on them to solve specific problems properly, but that is the cost of stability.
As to installing X11 and gnu tools - I do that as part of my setup on all my macs. It doesn't take a significant amount of time or effort.
There is a certain understanding of what right and left mean, within the realm of american politics.
Mot of the news media has taken a very agressively leftist attitude. Most newsrooms (and I've been to several, and read about others) are in fact republican-free zones. I recently heard a news editor quoted as saying that his newsroom of exclusively liberal reporters was not biased, they were professional, but that a news room with only conservatives would be biased.
I was saying that from a viewpoint as objective as I can be that -5 is not as far into the negative scale as 204 is into the positive scale.
Seems like a weak point to criticize on. I mean, I haven't got a ton of money, and I recognize that from time to time I will spend a little more money being a mac user than I would if I were a PC user, but as the report admits that the system is more reliable I don't see why that is a bg deal? Is anyone who is serious about their computer NOT going to spend money on it?
I dunno, I always thought this was why being myserly was a bad thing - you penny pinch, and you end up with things that don't work right.
The Fox newsroom is almost unique in american media, because they have republican's in the newsroom.
They also have liberals, and plenty of them. Visit their NY office, and speak to people... or, you know, WATCH Fox news for more than a few minutes, then watch ABC or CNN, and enable your own critical thinking.
Sure Fox has a bias, and it's a bias to the right, but they aren't NEARLY as far to the right as their competition is biased to the left. Contrary to popular belief, Fox is also critical of the whitehouse on a fairly regular basis... just not as often as other networks, nor with as much agressiveness.
"will be able to say anything they want, whenever they want"
I thought that that was part of free speech - why is he complaining?
I never understood why the FCC has the powers it does. It seems to me that there isn't a single child over 6 I've ever met who hasn't heard f@ck or sh*t spoken aloud, and I grew up watching Mel Brooks movies over and over again.
If you want to monitor what YOUR child watches, then it is your job to do so, not the FCCs.
bastards the lot of 'em.
The problems they are having are mostly network-management related. Just ecause most schools have really pathetic IT departments has nothing to do with the educational value of using computers in school. Is the pricetag of an adequate IT department high - YES, but the idea that some kids are leaving high school TO THIS DAY wotout learning to integrate a computer into their daily work is horrifying! Anyone who believes it's not an absolutely baseline neccessary skill, and will continue to be for the forseable future, is lying to themselves.
As to their educational problems - yes, some exist. That has more to do with having TEACHERS who are capable integrating computers into their programs. Having a computer and an internet connection at your fingertips CHANGES the way you work, and a lot of teachers are, frankly, morons to begin with. Especially the old-guard who can't tell a keyboard from typewriter.
Anyone can buy a paper off the internet - so maybe the answer is to demand more of the student using a computer than a simple text paper.... and there are a lot of ways of detecting plagerism, and they work with a respectable level of consistency.
As to the porn, stop being so bloody prudish! This fear that child might see people having sex in nasty ways is even more stupid than the hooplah about viloent video games and television. Is it reasonable to expect the students not be porn surfing in class, sure, but if you think most of those same 14 and 15 year olds (just an example - I was porn hunting before I was 12) aren't finding porn at every chance they get - bith on and off the computer - you have forgotten what it's like to be a teenager.
I've lived in Canada, and I live currently in Israel. While I don't know about the UK, or the other countries on the list, I can most certainly tell you that Canadians don't pirate anywhere near as much as Israelis. A lot of that has to do with enfocement, too.
Just as an example, you can walk into any major bus station in Israel and find a store that sells exclusively copied CDs and DVDs. It will take the police months to close them down, and take their inventory away, but in that time they've made so much money they can afford to lose their inventory, and they just re-open after a waiting periode.
It is worse in Egypt (where I've visited) as the police there don't even make the token attempt at closing them.
I'm told by friends that it is SIGNIFICANTLY worse in places like China or Thailand. The proof one friend offered was a box of hundreds of CDs and Data DVDs that he bought for less than $10, not knowing what specifically was on the disks. There was a lot of usless crap on them, but a lot of cool stuff too. All in English, all obviously pirated.
Anyway, I'm going to assume that the UK is closer to Canada than the middle-or-far East in terms of it's level of piracy.
I'm pretty sure an "Internet Cultural Unit" is an ISP... or the police looking over the shoulders of the ISP. Same thing really.
Communists always did know how to turn a phrase and use spin - better than capitalists. While us Capitalists talk of a free market - an idea that many people can think about and get behind, but that lacks emotion - communists go on about permanent revolution - a phrase that calls to the heart, and the young. Sure, permanent revolution is only apealing if you are a revolutionary permanently, but the language is so much more appealing!
It's not even the bigger interests that are involved, although they are a big part. Actually, you could probably get the biggest companies to capitulate more easily then anyone else. IBM, M$FT, Apple, AOL, the entire telecom industry, etc. they all want problems solved and would likely agree to something like that if the people proposing it made a good show of it. It's the smaller companies that are just getting by or even the individual users who are gonna scream bloody murder if you try and change something that is working 'well enough.' How many problems (sometimes major ones) do YOU put off EVERY DAY just because fixing 'em is slightly inconvinient and everything is 'good enough' for now?
One question: WHY?
While I'm not of the oppinion that ALL data should be available to everybody - eg. Items pertaining to national security, I feel, should be protected by the legal system. Hell, your credit card number while being transmitted - I also believe it should be illegal for a 3rd party to even attempt to attin that. If someone disagrees with me on these points, that discusion is for another time, but feel free to email me @ soch@whatthefuck.com - I do feel that code ld not fall under copyright laws, but under patent law. If I write a program that does something new or something old in a better way, I've INVENTED it. You can patent a process, so why not code, which is the instructions to a computer for manipulating numbers according to a certain process.
One must also take steps to aggresivly defend a patent, or one cannot open litigation against someone. Now this CAN apply to, eg. , movies, as the movie consists of code telling the program what to dosplay, in what position, in what order. Applying this phylosophy to this specific case is tough though.
Anyway, while I disagree that DeCSS can be summed up as 'simply' playing back media, it certainly doesn't BY ITSELF do anything illegal. The distribution of DeCSS is the distribution of an editing tool. DeCSS is nothing like a virus, who's very distribution causes damage, and is justly illegal.
Did anyone else notice what the judge compaired DeCSS to though? 2 things in the opening few pges infuriated me. 1) As I've mentioned, a virus. 2) AN ASSASSINATION. WTF? Where does that come from? This just about proves that the halfwit of a Judge knows nothing about which he was ruling on. A virus to an assassination is a streach - for now anyway - but a line can be drawn, vaguely. BUT A TOOL THAT HAPPENS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CIRCUMVENT STANDARD DVD-VIDEO SECURITY??? Aren't we being a little to creative? DeCSS ? John Wilkes Booth or Lee Harvey Oswald??? I can only say thank Gd that I don't live in the country that allowed an alarmist like this, who will make decisions based on extreem circumstances and comparissons, and ignorance to become a Judge!
Why is this "from the steve-jobs-love-child dept"? What have they got to do with this? What is this departemnt anyway? is it made up of Steve's love-children? All of them? Or is it hunting them down for sadistic purpouses? or just to hold them hostage for a buch of cubes and some airport equipment and maybe a few dual processor G4s?
What do specifically Steve Job's love-children have to do with THESE quickies? These seem to be new bits of info, while a steve-love-child would have to be 15 or so at least, no? Has the man gotten laid more recently than that?
Ok - I've had my fun, but could someone please explain it?
Do you raelly believe the crap you just posted? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T MAKE MONEY!!! What sega owns belongs to them and they make money off everything... I don't have time now, but I'm not saying we should or should not shair this stuff, but they will never make it GPL 'cuz they will ALWAYS find ways to make money with EVERY resource. If they don't NOW they will NEXT week.
I think I'm missing something. When did Pizza Hut "pioneer"? They mke pizza, and they make pizza expensive. I know the whole point of their funding this project is advertisment, but since when did a big name like Pizza Hut need to give out BS like the above?
Anyway, this is great. With NASAs record of goofs and throwing away billions of dollars again and again (did they ever do anything with that launch-site in Florida?) and he Russians' method of never replacing something that is 'good enough', it's about time a private company - with a decent auditing department - began having a say in progressing space exploration. I know that others have been involved in other projects, but that's mostly on the development end of things. I guarentee that it's NOT Pizza Hut employees who designed or built the damn thing, but I also guarentee that the PH bigwigs are gonna be watching every penny put into this project and will NOT tolerate a sloppy opperation.
Frankly, I don't mind the thought of 'Planet Pizza Hut' or the like. If I can go there, and they are partially responsable, they can call it whatever they like! I wanna walk on another planet, I don't care what the logo designed into the stratosphere might be.
HEY! I LIKE AL GORE!
I'm just kidding. WTF, to hell with him too...
(please don't mod me down for this - It was just too tempting! I doubt many people will come across the post anyway. Would it help if I said I've recently decided to learn to use linux because I'm just sick and tired of this M$ Windoze BS?!? You know you LOVE Linux users, right? whimper whimper...)
If you want to send personal emails from work, and you can get away with it - have fun (I'm not saying you should do it, but if you get away with it, who's stopping you,right?), but you're taking the risk of getting caught. You're using the companies computer and the companies connection to waste the time you're getting paid for.
Whatever, enough incoherant rambling from me for now.
Why is it a problem for some (all) of you that some people have different ideals than us /.ers? hell, most of our discussions are ONLY about differences in ideals. Does anyone remember that Dilbert Toon where Phil offers Dilbet either eternal fame and poverty, or great wealth and obscurity? These people decided that they didn't want to work with OSS and tat thoes ideals just aren't for them. They might be idiots, but that's not our problem.
The only reason this MIGHT be a problem is that some of you might have a lot invested in OSS and are woried about competition, what are you? Learning a bit from Bill Gate$? Competition is GOOD! It will keep all the second-rate OSS from being it's final stage - "good enough, nothing better out there, I can stop working on it now for a year or so." If the OSS triunphs, Great! If the "gatted communities" and "big corp" SW comes out on top, than thoes who program the OSS haven't worked on it hard enough, and their stuff SHOULDN'T be prefered - we DO live in something of an open market, thoes of us in NA and EU anyways.
violently so. ESR may have some 'elitest' tendencies, so do most of us in one direction or annother. Would a plumber let an MD touch his clients plumbing? Or an MD let a plumber at his patients? Well, in each case only if the other has formal training. What he is saying is 'elitest' in the same sence. He's saying that control of computers is in the hands of the computer literate. TRUE. Have you seen the instructions that come with an Epson printer nowadays? I have a 4 yrs old cousin who could handle the job without them, and yet, rather than do it for her, when a friend asked me for help installing her new Epson, I held her hand through following the pictorial and written instructions. The sad bit is that she's a grad student. WTF? Even though computers are becoming easier and easier by the second to use, thoes who are have-nots remain so until "we" help them.
BTW: Grok v. (1) To drink (2) To eat
In any case, what makes me want to puke (again, as I part one above in this text is just that) Is reading these posts. Words like "moral" and "right" - what shtooyot (heb. nonsence/bullshit). No, I'm not saying I agree with everything ESR said - not even close! It's just that = well, you all know perfectly well what he means by "we" and by "own". You've stoped to playing the lowest sort of semantic games just because you don't feel right about what someone else has to say. In any case, it's 1am, I have more netting to do, and I have to cross half of Istanbul to get back to my bed - and, my date, maybe? - and I think I've enough on-topic stuff here so I can end. Goodnight all!
...who buitlt the first airplain? NOT a big corp. In fact it was 3 brothers. How many western US cities (and I'd rate a city over a skyscraper) were founded and developed without government or big business? Who, for that matter, discovered penicilin?
I agree that "big business" not only has it's place, but is what makes our society the way it is posable, but don't EVER underestimate your abilities. If you wanted to organise the money and manpower you COULD build that skyscraper. It may take you longer, but then you should realise that the "big businesses" have a had start.
Start thinking about one-legged men running LENGTHWISE accross Canada and making it most of the way before dyeing of Cancer (not fatuge) [Terry Fox, for thoes of you who are wondering]. Or how about the deaf and bling girl who developed brail? [If you can't figure that one out, I'm not going to help you!] --} OR her parents for that matter!
"big business" is usually one guy pushing a dream/goal of his forward to an extreem. While Bill Gates' dream may be any of 1,000,000,000 things, he pushed as hard as he could at just the right moments and was rewarded for it. Realise that EVEN M$ was once just a bunch of computer-nerds trying to develope an almost non=existant industry.
Maybe this post is less off=tropic than I thought oit would be!
This post brought to you from Istanbul!
I'm sorry - I didn't mean to imply that we knew better than nature, I was simply pointing out that we have no proof that Nature "knows" anything, and if "she" does, "she" hasn't proven that she knows BETTER.
B4 I go on, I want to comment that I too would like a 3-eyed-fish. I'm sorry, but I had to.
Anyway, I don't mean that all breading programs have been successful, or that everything that humans do is either inherently right OR good. I DO think that anyone who believes the race is headed for a downfall is out of their minds - we will survive, don't doubt it - but that doesn't mean we'll be good or nice about it. However there is only so much potential in Natural evolution, and so much more in Genetics that to spout "survival of the fittest" is simply the easy way o counter something new & BIG (which inspiers fear) and nothing else.
The point of my post anyway was to say that while we can't say we're always right, we're by no means always wrong either. We'll play, we'll make some mistakes, we'll got other things right the first try. We'lleventually learn from the mistakes (or die trying to fix them, which I think unlikely) and fix them, and make new ones, etc. etc. We may not necesairily know what's best for the world, but we're the only one's who have a say unless someone can stop us (no, I am not preaching death to others or some such, that is simply the way it seems to work. We have all the guns - for now anyway).