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Pizza Hut's Space Program: First Launch
Legion303 writes: "This details the Pizza Hut-funded rocket that was sent up. Good first step in the privatization of spaceflight, although PH wouldn't have been my first choice of companies ..." The original plan was to be up last November, then last February, but better late than mis-delivered, I guess. Here's the original story hemos posted way back when. 500 million viewers is a lot of delivery business ...
Let's just hope one of the Pizza Hut drives doesn't pilot it. That baby will be totaled in minutes!!!
On the other hand, if it doesn't get wrecked, it'll probably be breaking the speed limit. Faster than light travel, here we come!
The original Howling Frog is a fictional character and has no UID.
Remember the story about the marketing execs that were hacked to death by the Moon worshippers for projecting commercials on the moon ?
Looks as if someone at Pizza Hut was a fan !
God knows I've thought about it......more than once
Life is just a bowl of All Bran - Small Faces
I remember reading an article, back in gradeschool, that actually discussed the technology and strategies that could be used to, say, visibly paint the Coca-Cola wave or the golden arches across the face of the moon. I still shit myself thinking about it.
But I have to say I won't complain about the pizza hut logo anyway. Whatever it took to get that particular lego brick into the sky, I'm happy. Besides, you couldn't really see the pizza hut logo before launch anyway because it was behind the scaffolding.
I stole this sig from someone cleverer than me.
Well, yeah, but she was pretty skanky, and I was really damn desperate. I doubt if I'll ever again use the line, "Hey, baby, wanna go up to my room and see my rocket?", though.
As for phallic symbolism, why do ya think hammerhead payload fairings are so popular- or why the Boeing 747 with that suggestive shape was such a success?
In the movie it was, as I recall. I don't remember what it was in the book, but it wasn't Microsoft.
The Proton uses hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide propellants, which inherently don't create any smoke, and very little light. The Shuttle's SRBs burn rubber and aluminum with ammonium perchlorate oxidizer, and emit incandescent molten aluminum oxide particles. This bright glow makes the mixing at the edge of the SRB plume easier to see- it's also there for the Proton, but isn't glowing.
:)
That really is how the Proton looks at liftoff- only aluminized solids and kerosene-fueled rockets have bright yellow or orange exhaust plumes, pretty much all the rest are transparent and pale yellow or blue. However, I have managed to make a nitrous oxide/ethane fueled engine produce a pale green plume by getting the mixture ratio just so, and a LOX/kerosene engine can run purple if the mixture is too lean (this eliminates the soot that makes the plume bright orange/yellow). LOX/alcohol is generally bluish for the same reason a gas flame on a stove is blue- it's an emission line of carbon monoxide.
Working with rockets can be quite a lightshow
I think this is what it is going to end up being 5 to 10 years from now.... http://www.limitedprints.com/corp.jpg
Pizza Hut != Pepsi Actualy Pepsi no longer owns Pizza Hut,Taco Bell, and KFC. They were split off several years ago and are sub-units of Tricon Global Resturaunts. http://www.triconglobal.com/triconroot/default.htm
So... you're saying Pizza Hut used toxic chemicals in their pizzas AND their rockets?!
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Man does not live on breadsticks alone.
Err, sorry.
That said, I think it's time I changed my
When it comes to delivery (which, when coupled with sitting in front of your machine playing today's game of the week, is the only REAL way to eat pizza), Papa John's kicks all ass it sees.
:)
However, if we're talking all-time greatest pizza, there is only one true winner: Old-School Little Ceasers. Circa late 80's, Little Ceaser's was the best pizza money could buy. Back when "Pizza-Pizza!" still meant something, you could get 2 square pizza's (on one cardboard holder so big it took 2 people to carry it) with 2-3 toppings for around $12.
Honorable mention goes to Pyramid Pizza. Anyone who's spent time in Lawrence or Manhattan, KS, will back me up on this one
(think free cable TV with continuous scrolling banner ads along the bottom or top)
At least thats one problem I could fix with some masking tape...
Special Relativity: The person in the other queue thinks yours is moving faster.
500 Million people saw this launch? 1/12 of the worlds population watched this rocket take off? Am I missing something here: is this Pizza Hut rocket really big in Europe?
Call me a skeptic, I guess, but 500 million sounds more like some marketing dweebs wet dream.
Anyone with some gimp skills could easily have placed a pizza hut logo on a russian rocket.
:)
Now, HOW MUCH did they pay again?
Actually, they are all owned by Pepsi. TGR inc is just a subsidiary of Pepsi Corp. (IIRC)
Finkployd
Pfingst
I find it ironic in cosmic proportions that the birthplace and former bastion of communism is prostituting itself with wanton abandon for the gratification of pathologically capitalist companines like PepsiCo and their spinoff Pizza Hut.
This is great! This is at LEAST a hundred points for us Americans!
For the record, I believe Coke was the one thinking of this, but I can't be sure.
Two methods of space-based advertising were being considered:
1) Send up huge coloured sheets, akin to the light sails that we've heard about, except this would simply be a huge, orbiting billboard. Just think about it - looking up one night and noticing a rectangular shape crossing the sky that catches the sun, lighting up "Enjoy Coke!" clear as day against the night sky. Shudder.
2) This idea was even worse; Instead of making a floating, orbiting billboard, they were simply going to paint a billboard on the moon for all to see.
As much as I like it and rely on it on a daily basis, THIS is why a market economy sucks.
Mr. Ska
I think Pizza Hut is the *perfect* company to take the initiative on this. I mean, if we're going to have all those orbital and lunar colonies, which of course geeks will be called upon to maintain, we're gonna need pizza! I think Mountain Dew should follow their lead.
I liked this part: "The 200-foot tall proton rocket was launched at 12:56 a.m./EDT from Kazakhstan and is headed for the International Space Station carrying a critical component, the Service Module...." Sure: and how many pizzas?
On a serious note, I've seen a number of people here moaning about "billboards in space". The key point to keep in mind here is that somebody took the initiative to get this module into space. If it's Pizza Hut that made it possible, why shouldn't they get some benefit in return?
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What? WHAT?!! Oh.
Marketing is always evil.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
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He lives in a world where those who do not run the client software of the omnipresent meme are unacceptable.
The Proton uses nitrogen tetroxide (N2O4, oxidizer) and unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (UDMH, fuel). See this page. Both of these chemicals are highly toxic. They were popular for liquid fueled ICBMs because they were non-cryogenic and storable.
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My girlfriend even signed up with an online corp. that pays you to drive around with their sticker (!) on your car for a year... Not enough to fix a screwed paint job though...
What's next?
- Advertising via disposable home products (paper plates, plastic spoons, dryer sheets, napkins, tampons, toilet paper [the last one might be quite rewarding IMHO]).
- Haircuts come with an obligatory temporary neck tattoo sporting the salon (the women will kill this one off
:) - The Moon (probably in negotiation as we type)
- Free services with obligatory, permanent ad displays (think free cable TV with continuous scrolling banner ads along the bottom or top)
Remember when all marketing WASN'T evil?Don't sweat the petty things. But do pet the sweaty things.
I wonder how much of the 500 million was given to Russia. because if say one logo on a rocket is worth say 10 million why not slap like two dozen logo's on there. Throw in the X prize and suddenly you have a profitable business sending people into space. Not to mention how much some .com gazillionaire geek would be willing to pay for a ticket.
"allright listners if you can name the first 10 people that went into space you have a chance of winning a 20 minute space flight worth $250,000 dollars. CALL IN NOW!!!!!!"
Stupid sig.
Now we know why The Onion (http://www.theonion.com) takes several weeks off every so often -- they spend that time writing press releases...
You ever look at the Eastern Seaboard of the United States? Virginia, named after Elizabeth, the Virgin Queen; the Carolinas, named after King Charles; Georgia, named after King George; Pennsylvania, named after William Penn; Maryland, named after Mary by the Calverts, a Catholic family. Naming things after sponsors has been going on for a long time. The only difference is that they did a better job of it then--which sounds better: Georgia or King George's Land(tm)(r)(c)(spqr)?
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Can NASA hold patents? I don't know, but I would think if they could, they could be pulling in alot more money from licensing technologies, giving them a bit of return on investment.
Actually, NASA does hold a lot of patents. These include things like goretex and I believe that they own the patent to velcro. They make quite a bit of money from those patents, which is good because it seems that the US Government is more interested in funding other programs like missle defence.
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Rocket science? Does anyone realize that online ordering has been in "testing" with Pizza Hut since 1995? How hard is it to write and deploy a simple web app?
"...on developing new ways to satisfy customers with innovative crust types, abundantly topped pizzas and diverse pizza styles. "
Hey doesn't M$ innovate too?
Sometimes I wish I had a baseball bat the size of Rhode island to beat the shit out of this world -Milk & Cheese
Let me guess, you were in so much of a hurry you forgot to click post anonymously? Or are you just a karma masochist?
the specs for the proton can be found here: http://www.russianspace.com/proton.html Yey, from what I understand it uses external boosters for the first stage, which I guess accounts for the lack of oxidation you observed. The Russians should get more credit for their launch technology; the Proton is larger and more reliable than anything Americans have. I agree, it makes me queasy too; what if Microsoft or Nike decide to fund a trip to Mars? Imagine the press...and the scary part is the technology is there. We're lucky companies have lousy imaginations.
My understanding is that Pizza Hut was using this an a promotional event to gain recognition of their new corporate logo (not terribly different from the old one, if you ask me). But with all of those delays in launch, was their logo even new anymore when they launched?
they can make it to the International
Space Station in 30 minutes or less.
(or there's going to be alot of astronauts
getting free pizza)
Who ordered pizza? Whoosh!! Screech!! Kerblam!!
2 - I believe it was one of the Hitchhikers Guide books. A ship was travelling the cosmos setting suns to supernova, just so that when the light from the nova suns reached a certain planet, it spelled out an advertisement in the sky!
No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. - Cmdr. Susan Ivanova
Not to mention the HoJo and Hilton in the 2001 space station...
Clarke was way ahead.
just my blog and pix
if the space shuttle astronauts will get thier pizza for free if they don't get delivery in less than 30 minutes.
Shop Smart, Shop S-mart!
Pizza Hut believes making great pizza is "rocket science"
... so that's why they haven't figured it out yet!
Nope, Tricom was spun off in to an independant company back in 1997.
That's all I had to say really...
How long till rockets look like race cars?
How's my programming? Call 1-800-DEV-NULL
(This WAS intended as humour, for those of you who aren't sure....)
I believe it was actually the Microsoft Galaxy. =)
How's my programming? Call 1-800-DEV-NULL
Witnesses of the explosion said they saw "laser beams" come down from the sky and torch the building. "It was just like Star Wars," said one passer-by. "It made this noise like, `keeerOOOOWWWW!', and then boom! The whole building just blew up. "
Nearly the entire executive of Dominoes was in a quarterly meeting with shareholders at the building. None have been emerged alive, and authorities fear the worst.
PizzaHut officials vehemently denied that the allegations. "We vehemently deny those allegations," said a press officer. "We launched nothing more than a crucial componenet of the space station. The idea that we launched some sort of orbiting sixteen gigawatt intra-flux-capacitative neutron beam ultra-laser is completely ludicrous. After all, our laboratories are at least six months away from having a working prototype."
"Of course," continued the press officer, "there's always a chance we could try to help Dominoes out before, say, their restaurants were destroyed one by one, every day, until they were nothing but smoking heaps of de-molecularized ashes. That would be a shame, and we really do want to help out. All they have to do is ask."
Free Software Foundation founder Richard M. Stallman could not be reached for comment. Said an FSF spokeswoman, "RMS doesn't like the way Dominoes licenses their recipes. And anyway, he usually orders Chinese."
Carousel is a lie!
but do they still deliver in 30 minutes?
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I vote we strap that old navy wench to the next russian rocket headed for the ISS. And after that, the taco bell dog.
Good thing for pizza hut it went off without a hitch. If the rocket whent kablowie, they could have ended up with pie on their face.
tcd004 Janet Renomargolis , nuff said.
LOL...damn,that's funny.
Carousel is a lie!
See this BBC Article
Life is just a bowl of All Bran - Small Faces
Errr... am I the only person seeing this post about OS X in the story about Pizza Hut?
:-P
Either slash is going slightly mad, or this is the most surreal troll I have seen yet
Something weird is going on, or you are just _so_ offtopic.
Not only was the rocket late, but those poor dudes up there don't actually get any pizza. Pizza Hut probably got a good deal on the cost of the paint (the added wind resistance was probably worth a few grand right there), but it doesn't seem they were even willing to fork out the 1/2 million more a pizza would have cost. How do I know this? Do you think pizza hut would have passed that hype opportunity up? All and all, this is the first ad on a rocket, and no big deal. Make a fresh pizza in space (a loaded pizza in 0-g... hahah) and I'll be impressed.
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there has GOT to be a Pizza The Hut joke in here somewhere....
It's the blind leading the blond. ~U2
Wouldn't this have been a lot more appropriate for Viagra than Pizza Hut?
"Planet Starbucks..."
"The Microsoft Galaxy..."
.. of boosters taking off plastered with more ads than a NASCAR stock car at Charlotte. At least it's one way to make money, and if it gets more launches televised, maybe people will get fired up about space flight again.
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Then again, it gives 'space race' a whole new meaning
73 de N5VB (ex-KD5BIV) AR SK
Everyday is rhe the forth o'
July at Pizza Hut. The idea however
isn't to just send up another rocket
like the chinese used 3000 years ago
but to develope new propulsion systems
that will not be commercially unpheasablr.
To the Guy who got confiscated
by the federal arm of free masonry;
[i am not a lawyer
head down to the 'federal District
Court' in your town & fill out an 'order
to show cause' in the 'pro se' clerk's
office. Talk to everybody you meet in
the building, particularly the clerks
who have a better understanding of local
regs & practices than the attorneys do.
[Lawyers love to talk,
particularly a case like this where
you didn't solicit the materials in
question or have any agreement with anyone.
You talk to one guy then you talk to
someone else using the first guys ideas,
then....]
Since you 'got no money, *proceed
in forma pauperis* by filling out the
forms & avering that this is hardship,
[the intrinsic equiptment has no value
as evidence & the pertinant data coulld
probably be copied in a day therefore
it is an extortive violation of your
civil rights under color of federal
authority].
Have fun with it because with no
money you' got to put in the time.
Talk the language, play a cautious
hand, go to the library get a couple of simple
law Dictionaries, If you' got a friend who's
in a law office borrow her law library card
look up F B I confiscation in
*Corpus Juris* & the 'reporters', trade
computer help for legal help, & try to get
representation.
If you say something in Court your adversaries will say 100000 words in rebuttal.
The less you say the less there is to ponder.
Now, your representation runs off at the
mouth or lies or spits at the judge, thats
HIS problem. He is not a party to the
action. He was not there! He is your cat's
paw, to touch indirectly.
You can[ought] to try Civil Liberties
or Amnesty International or some
other sorority, if only for the
experience. They' got time for the KKK,
the communists, etc... but no time for
the fundamental rights of the basic
American who doesn't realize how little
freedom he has left.
Get like a public defender, ask the pro
se clerk for a reccommendation.
When the clandar Court Justice asks
why you why your in Fed. Courtsay you were attacked by Federal AGENTS.[You can't
sue a Federal agent, but you can sue
an agent who is making it up as he goes
along. He gets paid for enforcing the law,
not writting it. The dude has steped from
behind the veil.]
| X |
Since Geo. Washington, the officers of
the Armed Forces have all been
Free Masons, which may be why
their Russian Brothers had our
troop movements before our men did
in Korea.
VA doctors have found neither
chemical or biological
justification for the Desert Storm
Syndrome. Perhaps our officers
are punishing our men for what
they did under orders.
Our men suffering symptoms
created by traitors with a
MICROWAVE LASER.
Well my experience only goses back to about mid 92, what the rules where before then i couldn't comment on. And if you want to tell jokes, a) make it clear, and b) if you pick on a false stereotype then expect those stereotyped to take some offence, or at least try to clear up the stereotype.
Didn't you hear? They got so caught up in the "Eat the pizza backwards" campaign that they installed the boosters on the wrong side. Oh well, one more free water well for Russia...
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styopa's off the mark: NASA does NOT "make quite a bit of money" from licensing their patents. NASA receives less than $1mil annually from the liscensing of patents, which has a negligible effect on the funding status of the agency, which receives more than $14bil in federal funds annually (GAO/RCED-99-173). NASA's subsidation of private industry is particularly aggregious, as NASA has simply released (licensed without royalty) thousands of technologies developed at enormous cost. What's more, massive federal R&D projects are grossly inefficient ways of developing technolgies that fulfill public needs. NASA, for example, has routinely been criticized by the US General Accounting Office for serious waste and mismanagement. Likewise, the US DOD has failed all 16 of the last 16 annual audits by the U.S. General Accounting Office, with more than 20% of the Department's inventory unaccounted for (lost or stolen).
And let's not forget that a full one-half of NASA's efforts go into military research, namely ballistic missle aeronautics, propulsion and guidance. Additionally, NASA has produced what can only be called an environmental disaster, as it is responsible for 913 contaminated sites at 22 of its field facilities in 10 states, with an estimated total public cleanup cost of $2 billion (GAO/NSIAD-97-98).
Finally, NASA has suffered from significant corruption. For example, in it's Internal Affairs investigative arm, NASA's Inspector General, William Colvin, resigned in 1994 after he and his office were found to be 'prenotifying' officials who were under investigation for conflict-of-interest and fraud, essentially allowing them to cover their tracks (GAO/OSI-95-9).
This is not an institution to idealize, nor to rely on to bring new and advanced toothbrushes to market.
Thanks, rub it in. :)
Finkployd
Thnx!
Does this mean that there is now a 'Pizza the Hut' in space? creeepppyy....
... we'll soon have rockets going up that look like NASCARs, with stickers of 50+ advertisers slapped on the side of every one. Albeit, with the government always cutting funding to space missions, this may be the only alternative to goals such as inhabiting the moon, a really-functional space station, mission to Mars, etc.
Of course, the problem with this type of advertising is, someone has to see it in the first place. As someone pointed out earlier, the main reason this is getting so much attention is because it has never been done before, and the media loves to jump on stuff like this. But, after the excitement of being the "First Post" in space goes down, so too will the interest in advertising this way, because people just aren't interested in space anymore.
Despite launches costing millions of dollars and countless man-hours, people just see launces as too mundane to bother watching. There's a countdown. Smoke goes out of the rocket. Rocket goes up. Yay. -- Personally, I love space launches, and I think commercialization of missions may be the only way to go for future funding (although I will lose faith in humanity if marketeers actually implement images on the moon and such), but this idea won't work in the long run simply because there is not a sustained audience for regular every day launches.
Special launches, like a new hubble, Mars mission,
moon landing, etc., it might work. But not with routine maintenance, satellite orbital launches, and such.
Um...what about Unix in general? Last I checked AT&T was a US company. Don't forget the weirdos at Berkeley either
Could someone explain to me why the exhaust trail in the images looks so different from the shuttle launches at Canaveral?
I'm curious as to why the plume is almost perfectly vertical along its edges and the rolling smoke appears to be merely kicked up dust. Is this the way that exhaust from a proton rocket actually looks or is this what PH believes it would look like rendered through something like Photoshop?
-Vel
...a whole new meaning to space junk.
Donate background CPU time to fight cancer.
Um, Pizza Hut didn't shell out for the whole thing. Probably not much at all. It's just that the Russians have been promising that launch for years, and there so strapped they would let some pizza company on board. I'd have held out for something with a little more class.
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Isn't it supposed to be 5-7-5? This is 6-7-5... maybe "Special: Twenty bucks"? I dunno, I could be wrong.
"Let me open these blinds so the snipers can see in." - Kevin Giffhorn
True. Too much late night Haikuing can be detrimental...
Donate background CPU time to fight cancer.
"We deliver anywhere"
Umm, this is Planet X, turn right after Pluto, follow the wobble in Neptune's orbit, and we're halfway to the Oort cloud.
"Way Fast delivery, dude"
"It's the pizza that made the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs!"
"Our pizza's out of this world"
A large, double cheese, with tribble sausage. Also a six-pack of Romulan ale and two Pan-Galactic Gargle Blasters.
I don't believe you can't have any points, you can't have reckless driving tickets and there are rules about that sort of thing. However, they aren't as strict as you gave them.
However, can't take a joke, huh?
Kate
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I remember back when I was in elementry school and ever time you read a book you got a stamp. After you got so many stamps you'd get a free personal pan pizza at Pizza Hut. A much better incentive to get kids to read would be something like... "Read 10,000 books and you can go to space!" WOO HOO! :)
The logos on the side are going to make rockets look like Nascar.
Here's a picture of where space exploration (funding) is headed:
Shuttle Ads
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Richard von Weizs
Well, they certainly didn't spend that cash on the website design!
I know, it's just a press release, but still, shouldn't they have something more impressive for a venture of this nature?
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All attempts at silly statements and jokes (mostly) aside... Why the _heck_ is Pizza Hut advertising on a rocket? Are they trying to enter the NASA Engineer pizza sales market?
The viewing would seem very limited given the very short amount of time the rocket is visible.. but there's always the articles afterwards I guess.
Logical thinking would seem to dictate that the advertising company would at least have something to do with rockets or space travel, not some catch-phrase creating, mission statement writing, PC organization, management's statement like "We are forward thinking and put our logo on a rocket to show everyone how clever we are". I could see those Rotary Rocket folks advertising, or those new "space vacation" companies using the round billboard, but really .. Pizza Hut?
*start humor attempt*"We deliver custom pizzas to Cape Canaveral in less than 20 microseconds, by guaranteed rocket powered delivery or your next ion drive free"
*end humor attempt*(Like to see the tip for that delivery boy...)
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ObAmericanImperialism...
But it was the Russians who launched it.
"Information wants to be paid"
What about developing commercial space transport systems, commercial space stations or commerical on-orbit manufacturing plants? What about doing something vaguely useful for humankind?
Of course, if they chose to interpret it that way, they couldn't claim to have revolutionized space travel by buying a $500M billboard. They'd also have to give credit to the numerous companies that are actually doing something useful.
Frankly, I don't give a damn how many PhDs it takes to make a fricking pizza; I just want to be able to vacation on the moon.
Folowing Pizza Hut's announcements that they're funding a rocket, NASA announced that they were going to go into Pizza delivery
Joe Muldoon of Nasa said "If they can poach our territory, then we can poach theirs.", and added "'Making great pizza' is not much different from rocket science. We've already done some experiments in space based food preparation by turning Mars probes into pancakes"
Owing to the huge cost of a conventional pizza oven, suggestions are that the shuttle's heat proof coating will be replaced with Pizza, so they can be cooked on re-entry. Nasa also suggested that their delivery bikes would have rockets strapped on the back to guarentee fast delivery times. "Its not like it would make the guys any more dangerous after all", said Muldoon
NASA can be found at www.nasa.gov, but there's no way we're going to actually turn this into a link.
If you alias images.slashdot.org to 209.235.86.227, the icons will icons will be displayed but no advertisements will.
Three months ago I have paid a shitload of taxes -- I should make a press release about my active participation in everything that US government does.
Contrary to the popular belief, there indeed is no God.
... one step closer to a giant space-Big-Boy.
"It's frickin' freezing in here, Mr. Bigglesworth..."
kugano
So this is how this awful Pizza the Hut got to space ...
Sure, go on, deliver pizza to space ... why not? Let those cosmic rays mutate the pizza into a disguasting Mafia guy that would terrorize the galaxy. Why should I care?
Beware, Lone Starr!
Mike Rawlings, president and chief concept officer, sez "Our sponsorship of this critical mission tells consumers around the world that we're always looking to take Pizza Hut innovation to new heights."
Where's the innovation in paying big bucks to slap a logo on the side of what is essentially a really big fast bus?
But the headquarters of Dominos Pizza is in Ann Arbor, Michigan (They have a really neat Christmas light show there every year).
Just a little nit.
If I could only live my life with my threshold at 4...
Umm, have you read the book? For one thing, he's talking about pizza delivery not pizza quality or pizza's nutritional value.
I know you are trying to make some (valid) points here, but you are straying far from the original concept to do so - he's talking about success not (necessarily) quality. I'm not going to argue about who make better movies or music or software. You would have to agree, though, that music, movies, and software from the U.S. sell more and are more pervasive than similar products from any other country (ok, maybe India makes more movies). As far as pizza delivery goes, well, that's in there to give the protagonist a cool job!
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"It was people! People soiled our green!"
'Putt putt, to the Pizza Hut'
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As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.
I worked for Taco Bell in 97. My paychecks still said Pepsi.
:)
Course, that might just have been carryover from earlier days, as I left early that year.
Oh well, I'm not always right
Finkployd
All they need now is to get a guy named Uncle Enzo to run the place...
The back button on my browser is broken... so I would appreciate it if everyone would put a "target=new" into their link
I can't imagine Microsoft's software being responsible for the life support system let alone the navigation or communication systems in a mars-bound ship.
Please consider making an automatic monthly recurring donation to the EFF
Would you rather see MS's Windows logo painted on the side of the rocket? I'd much rather see Pizza Hut or perhaps the entire rocket painted like a Coca-Cola bottle. After all the Russians would approve of the red color.
Dude, I love Papa Johns! Pizza Hut sucks!
:)
Well, first off, some of this *is* a matter of preference. The doughy crust... The sweet sauce... how can you not love it? Maybe it's a Southern thing, I don't know. Or maybe I just got addicted to it in High School...
However, Pizza Hut sucks for other reasons. It's *okay* if you have it in an actual Pizza Hut, but if you try to take your pizza home for leftovers, it'll last about 7 minutes, at which point it gets harder than week-old breadsticks. Papa Johns pizza is good hot when you get it, *and* cold and days-old, which is a College Pizza Requirement.
Also, Papa Johns tends to be reasonably priced, (well, not as cheap as Gumby's ("Give me a Gumby, Dammit!"), but a nice trade-off between cost and quality) while Pizza Hut tends to be too expensive, too small, and not really quality pizza. Domino's is ok.
...and if you want real pizza, don't get it from any of these places! Go to these only if you want fast pizza, or cheap pizza!
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First of all, what has Pizza Hut REALLY done here that the government hasn't? The US has scraped up whole lot more than 2.5 million over the years.
But I see what you were trying to say, and in response to that I say, the only reason the government has "failed" is because its citizens don't care about space exploration anymore. Noone's really cared much about the space program since we landed on the moon. It's been over 30 years and we haven't attempted anything even close to that since. True, the trip to the moon served very little real purpose, but one would think we'd have done _something_ bigger than we've done by now. Alot of people today just think the space program is a waste of money. "We should be spending all of that money to fix problems here on Earth" they say. They just don't realize that ALOT of modern technology has come from NASA. Space-based experiments have saved lives and improved the quality of a whole lot of others, people just don't realize that at all. It's our responsibility to tell Uncle Sam where we want our money to go, and if NASA isn't getting the funding we all want it to, it's our own fault.
Secondly, I would like to point out that there is virtually nothing that ISN'T commercialized. There's only so much money the government can put up by itself. Can NASA hold patents? I don't know, but I would think if they could, they could be pulling in alot more money from licensing technologies, giving them a bit of return on investment. Maybe they already are, but I honestly have no idea. But anyways, look at railroads, cars, airplanes. All forms of transportation that may have been government subsidized, but still commercially driven. Space travel will join them. Bio-engineering, chemical engineering, etc. all areas of research that may be government subsidized, but again, are mainly commercially driven.
So, in the end, things will be fine. This isn't that dissimilar from what's happened many times before. In fact, I say it's about damn time. Commercialization=more rapid growth, and I'm all for rapid growth of the space program.
The only reason Pizza Hut's getting so much advertising from the rocket launch is because the media and us are making a big deal about it! Well, that's good for Pizza Hut, and it will get a ton of good publicity from this.
However, when stuff like this becomes commonplace, will advertising on rockets really be profitable? I mean, how many of us actually watch the things launch? If it becomes so common, no one would really care about the routine rocket launch.
On the other hand, I could see these things on stinger missles being launched from F-22's. Won't that pilot on the MIG love to know his death was brought to him by Dominoes Pizza.....
-Kefabi out.
The proof comes when the Pizza Hut Marketing Battlestation rains lukewarm cheesy death across the globe and world leaders grovel before Pizza Hut's marketing department for mercy...
Except for Russia that is. Is it just a coincidence that Pizza Hut fed Boris Yeltsin during the 1991 coup? They've been planning this for decades!
YELTSIN WILL RETAKE THE PRESIDENCY AND RULE THE WORLD WITH PIZZA HUT!
" ... communicates category leadership, futuristic thinking and innovation"
This is more indicative of how marketers comprehend the world than anything. The futuristic thinking and innovation was done on the part of the engineers and mechanics who designed and built the rocket and it's payload. Why the hell does marketing pat themselves on the back for such? Form over function. In their mind they don't fully understand the difference between building the rocket and painting it. This has also been true for every high-tech company I have ever worked for.
I can see it now. While the open-sourced rocket has made it to jupiter and back, the M$ rocket explodes right after takeoff. Or... The M$ rocket uses proprietary technology, and soon forces all other ISS rockets to use its boosters... Where do you want to go today? takes on a whole new meaning
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Don't make me laugh.
quote: 'Pizza Hut is sponsoring the sending of a "Service Module" to INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION that will make permanent living in space a reality.'
You know what this means, don't you? The Service Module was manufactured by Pizza Hut and, when fueled, can create a choice selection of pizza's right at the door of the International Spacestation.
It's good to know that there is pizza available in outer space.
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Can you imagine if MicroSoft had participated in space technology? Yes, you would only be able to use on kind of software to pilot your space ship, but maybe you would be able to take it to mars.
Of course the way Windows is it probably would crash a couple times along the way.
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Interesting... Is it possible to apply for a trademark online, and how much does it cost?
"Why hasn't this happened already?", you might ask. We've become too soft. People have forgotten about the sex appeal of the early manned program and war. We get all teary eyed with 7 bureaucrats posing as astronauts get blown up in a gold plated mockery of Yankee Ingenuity. What a crock!
Maximum altitude and/or minimum time to a particular height wins. Breath oxygenated saline to absorb high g loads? I don't know -- I don't care because I'm not climbing on top of one of those vertical dragsters anytime soon so it's none of my business, but I know plenty of young guys with hormonal overload who would jump at the chance to fill their lungs with oxygenated saline if it would get them a buxom babe, so who are you or I to stand in their way?
To hell with government programs, let's be reasonable about this space stuff.
Of course, since the mortality rates will be rather high in such a competition so you would need to hold the Winternational Rocket Races in someplace like Belize or Nigeria rather than el wimporoonie countries with sensitive quiche-eaters like the United States or any of the rest of the industrialized world.
If sacrifices must be made to get technological civilization out of the biosphere, then so be it!
Extreme sports -- HA!
Seastead this.
Large amounts of cash missing, grainy "photos" offered as proof that they ... um ... painted a miniscule logo on a rocket. Riiiiighiiit.
This isn't as much "normalization" as it is "don't take so many drugs when you're designing tables."
One large Super Supreme for all Mankind. Hold the Onions.
The original plan was to be up last November, then last February, but better late than mis-delivered, I guess.
Good thing Pizza Hut still doesn't have a "pizza delivered in 30 minutes or it's free" policy. Those cosmonauts on Mir must have been pretty ticked off when they finally got their cold pizza.
I can see it now:
"We deliver anywhere"
"Way Fast delivery, dude"
"Our pizza's out of this world"
The only thing you won't see, seeing as the launch was off by 9 months is something about " less than 30 months late - or it's free..."
Nite, folks. I need sleep.
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(I don't think that's exactly what it was in the movie, but it's what's in the script that I found)
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Just imagine that long rocket launching up to space with a Trojan logo on it.
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I really don't like the looks of that Pizza Hut logo on the side of that rocket. It gives me a queezy feeling to know that some megacorp can come up with cash to fund things like this (very important things, I might add) where governments have failed.
Damnit. I guess I'll just have to get used to it.
One the plus side, that is one damned efficient rocket engine. Man, it looked sweet on launch - did anyone else notice the lack of oxidation? Is this some difference between the fuel technologies the Russians use over American launches? I seem to remember its got something to do with their use of kerosene over American's use of some other thing, but I forget the details.
Sure could roast some good pie with that rocket. Damnit.
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Pizza Hut seems to like Russian connections...Gorbachev in ads, Russian rocket launches? Perhaps a longing for old Soviet 'Red' Russia days, to match their hut roof? I see a PH-sponsored Mars launch in the works... (silliness) I suppose if PH feels it's worth it, then it's OK...as long as they don't start polluting the night sky with glowing ads.
I thought it was a "This Way Up" sign for the Russian launch engineers....
You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
They're gonna spray paint the moon
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Frigitatus' gonna be the pastrami &
Tycho Brahae 's gonna be a sprig of
onions.
Best of all they will have done
something while others laugh in jealousy
at others achievements.
*Love your Supreme pizza* but you
could precook the peppers I'm a
pimientoish kind a guy.
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Obviously, Pizza Hut wants to be ready to deliver pizzas to the International Space Station They'll basically have a monopoly, at least until Domino's and Papa John's get their stuff into orbit... Of course, making a pizza oven mounted on a 1G centrifuge in orbit may be tougher than they think. 0.5*:-)
- "History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men" -- Blue Oyster Cult, 'Godzilla'
And I'm from the south, Georgia, to be exact, and Papa John's just irritates me. :) Last time I ordered from them, there was a hair in my pizza (not mine, I ain't blonde), and the time before that I found a used band-aid (and it wasn't the same store, either).
As for pricing, Pizza Hut and Papa John's around here tend to be the same or similar prices (+-$2), but I'd still rather have pizza from the local pizza join than either one, but it's not open as late as PH/PJ's.)
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Pizza is more aerodynamically shaped than chicken, colonel with a beard, bell and chihuahua (aka rat-dog), so it's more positively associated with something flying ;-)
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I have never been a fan of the fast food industry. But having tasted Jordinian pizza just a few weeks ago, my views of Pizza Hut were greatly altered. According to the Lonely Planet Guide to Jordan, Pizza Hut offered one of the best Pizzas in all of Petra, which is a strong testiment to the Jordinian exposure to Italian/New York style pizzas. Anyways, the storal of my moray (Capitol Steps) is that Pizza Hut could do some good by sending a message from the heavens down unto Pizzaless third world countries. Sad, but true.
~Questioning
"Is this stuff CHEESE?!"
Is it ok to give the delivery guy a rocket when he's late?
(damm that wasn't funny).
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Every secretary using MSWord wastes enough resources
Hmmmm... then again that would cause yet another delay in the interenational space station, so perhaps that would'nt be amusing at all...
music
Yeah, cheers for Britney Spears...
movies
Yeeaahh...i'll grant you Fight Club. Sadly it's almost cancelled out by the God-Bless-America attitude of films such as U-571, The Patriot etc. etc. Maybe if America made less xenophobic, smart-arse, shallow films.
microcode (software)
Lets see: Microsoft is American. Linus is Norwegian. No, can't give you this one.
high speed pizza delivery
Ah yes, food. I knew the Americans had to be good at something! And, of course it has to be food. After all, over half the population is clinicly obesse.
Yes, God Bless America! (Wipes tear of laughter from eye)
*Brave? Stupid? Whats the difference? ;)
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I think Pizza Hut were a great choice for the first sponsors of space flight.
I mean, look at their logo: What other company do you know that could get away with painting a picture of a flying saucer on the side of a rocket??
I guess this will mean that all those old "Pizza the Hutt" jokes will get re-born too?
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Let's just hope one of the Pizza Hut drives doesn't pilot it. That baby will be totaled in minutes!!!
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world's largest proton rocket emblazoned with a Pizza Hut logo on the fuselage.
Not to be confused with equally sized rockets devoid of the pizza hut logo or any smaller pizza hut sponsored rockets.
--Shoeboy
Tricon Global Restaurants Inc. operates Pizzahut, Kentucky Fried Chicken and Tacobell. I wonder why this wasn't Pizzahut/Kentucky Fried Chicken/Tacobell rocket? I see the 18-wheelers on the highway with all 3 logos. Perhaps it's because people associate outer space with the moon, some people associate cheese with the moon, and Pizzahut uses the most cheese.
I think I'm missing something. When did Pizza Hut "pioneer"? They mke pizza, and they make pizza expensive. I know the whole point of their funding this project is advertisment, but since when did a big name like Pizza Hut need to give out BS like the above?
Anyway, this is great. With NASAs record of goofs and throwing away billions of dollars again and again (did they ever do anything with that launch-site in Florida?) and he Russians' method of never replacing something that is 'good enough', it's about time a private company - with a decent auditing department - began having a say in progressing space exploration. I know that others have been involved in other projects, but that's mostly on the development end of things. I guarentee that it's NOT Pizza Hut employees who designed or built the damn thing, but I also guarentee that the PH bigwigs are gonna be watching every penny put into this project and will NOT tolerate a sloppy opperation.
Frankly, I don't mind the thought of 'Planet Pizza Hut' or the like. If I can go there, and they are partially responsable, they can call it whatever they like! I wanna walk on another planet, I don't care what the logo designed into the stratosphere might be.
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once again, this prooves Slashdot "submit story" sucks. I submitted this story a few times last week, and it took only 2 minutes to be rejected each time, yet this time, it was accepted. ....
is anyone else bothered by the fact that they used innov* seven (count 'em - seven!) times in one press release? makes me wonder if microsoft didn't have a hand in this :] wonder if zvezda will end up with a bsod...
-baeta
Well, this is a natural step after globalization.
Hmm.. Maybe they're strip-mining cheese?
I mean, think about it.. The moon is well
known to be the most abundant source of cheese
in the solar system.. It makes total sense
that Pizza Hut should be kicking off a space
program to harness some of this vast natural
resource. When they can provide a 10 pound
"Cheese Lover's Pizza" for $0.10, we'll see
who's laughing...
-- The Funk, The Whole Funk, And Nothing But The Funk
Originally, (this from a former Tricon employee, they own Taco Bell, KFC, and Pizza Hut.) the guys at Tricon had planned to...get this...build a huge "laser pointer" on Earth and emblazon the logo on the moon for a month, so every night, you'd see the Pizza Hut logo on the moon.
This got far enough out of the conceptual stages that they were asking scientists if it was feasible, and the idea stopped when they learned that it would take a power plant the size of Texas to run the laser pointer...
Apparently, nobody in marketing even thought about the excess radiation, time zones, phases of the moon, surrounding towns going blind, flight paths, and stray birds getting zotched in the huge cooking beam of death. (Although that would totally bring new meaning to "Nobody does chicken like the Colonel does chicken".)
If your wondering how Pizza Hut got the money... Pizza Hut is owned by Pepsi. I could see Pepsi being the first ones to do this sort of thing. I guess they just wanted to give Pizza Hut some publicity.
these people should be taken to a remote and desolate corner of the milky way and shot repeatedly in the kneecaps, just around the same time that a very blunt spoon slowly drills it's way through one eye and lemonjuice is poured into the other; then left in the cold confines of their
"commercialized universe" while their body implodes/explodes (not sure which occurs, but either one suits the purpose) from depressurization.
ps. if any of you care to add to the various imaginable tortures that may be inflicted upon persons capable of such grotesquely blatant and
whimsical capitalist exploitation, please feel free to do so...
oh, and...Have a nice day!
Since the delivery was that late, did the space station get a free pizza?
If I was feeling really bitchy I'd insert some comment about pizza making fat, bloated Americans in the way that microcode makes for fat, bloated CISC architectures, as opposed to UK - Scandanavian tie-ups with ARM
Hehe. I personally know at least one guy who got laid entirely as a result of his association to sexy rocket hardware.
"Research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing." -- Wernher von Braun
See the NASA page that explores other avenues for space commercialization.
Although it is extremely unlikely that advertisements could fund an entire mission, they may provide significant supplementary revenue. Advertisements may be purchased on their own, but they are generally integrated into overall promotional campaigns. As such, they have the potential to generate additional revenues on the order of $3 million to $5 million or more per mission. For example, Columbia Pictures was willing to pay $500,000 for space on the side of the first Comet launch to promote the release of "The Last Action Hero." This was split between Westinghouse (Conestoga) and Space Marketing, Inc.
You gotta keep your action-oriented-box-office-bombs-starring-bulky-br utes straight. :)
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"Here's your pizza sir. That'll be $10.50."
"You would think. But that took you a tad longer than 30 minutes son."
"But... but..."
"But nothing. Why the hell do you think I moved to the moon in the first place?"
Sorry... I couldn't resist.
I wonder if they could rig it up to be fueled by the excess grease from their pan pizzas. Lord knows it's much more abundant than any other liquid save only for water.
-- "Complacency is a far more dangerous attitude than outrage." -Naomi Littlebear
Remember the Star Wars (et. al.) spoof "Space Balls, The Movie!"? The villain was called Pizza the Hut. In the end of the movie he got hungry and ate himself.
But I sure do hope that they are not going to sponsor the food on manned space flieds.
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..is to send a rocket to the Moon to collect samples. They want to be the only pizza biz with authentic Green Cheese!
in an unprecedented move the management at Andover.net appears to have kidnapped the real cmdrTaco, malda, hemos, emmet and jonkatz on or about July 10th. Millions of /.'ers didn't notice for approximatly 10 days until the truth leaked out: they were strapped to the base of a PH rocket and singed to a crisp as Pizza Hut tried to make good on its promise to be able to deliver a pizza anywhere upto an altitude of approx 280 or less miles. Katz was seen holding a columbine pennant as the supercool liquid propelants oozed down the sides of the rocket as they awaited the launch. Malda was heard saying 'guys it says light fuse and get away' but was moderated down by cmdrTaco to a -2 as his this was surely off topic. yeah..go ahead moderators and troll me out... but todays news on /. was just bad. this article (much as i love rockets/space stories) and a few others, just simply wasn't news.
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