ANybody who's used Gaim already knows... Under the hood, AIM and ICQ aleady are the same. Both use the proprietary OSCAR protocol, they ust log into different servers.
oh well, I guess adding the ability for all numerical names to the AIM servers would just be *way* to hard... I mean all you'd have to do would be to copy the database of users over.
That's not the point, when moving over to a new medium, from scratch, you need something to build on. You can't just jump to 64-bit with no compatability with 32-bit, nothing will work, and then you'll go broke. IMHO If you want to move to 64-bit, you want at least one step of conpatability to allow for easy migration.
I Work at a help desk at an I2 University. Most of the time when we get the calls about the lamentable Ping Times... We tell them that we cannot assist them in illegal applications.
that and we set each wall jack to 10BaseT Half-duplex... that helped too
that... and when my SSH sesion starts lagging badly, I find someone and pingflood them to death for a few seconds... and wow... my conncetion is much better for a while... *Evil Grin*
If it's custom written, the wheel has been reinvented a few times at least.
RPI has a similar system... we have a web-interface for passwd... I think how it's done, is we wrote custom passwd and the web ap, to update the AFS and Kerberos, and the win domains. I don't know exactly how it works.
I've seen the same thing happen with a cable service. RoadRunner (AOL/TimeWarner) wasn't being athorative about their domain names, and was pointing to themselves as the autorative name server... it broke... it also took them about 72 hours to get that fixed...
After a 2 day outage, my house finally switched from RoadRunner to Verizon DSL, and haven't had a problem since. We don't get any of their stuff, yeah we have access to their mail server, but we don't use it much.
my point: it doesn't really matter, as long as you have your pipe, and the tpye of pipe shouldn't matter, so why the decision that 1 medium of transfering bits is different from another medium, and hence subject to different regulations
Ok, let me get this straight... DSL providers have to open their lines to competition, but Broadband providers dont.
hrmmm... DSL: High Speed internet access Cable: High Speed internet access
The differance being that the cable internet providers are also "content providers"? because they own 9 10ths of the media? ok... does anybody else see this as a problem (besides the obvious lack of meaningful content being provided)?
I find it rather interesting that the FCCs lone democrat was the only vote against the decision... lets look at some parallels here, the M$ case
Democrats in White House: Push M$ to court for being a monopoly; Democrat in the FCC: try to prevent monopolies
Republicans in White house: let the M$ case slide, but try to keep face; Republicans in the FCC: go ahead, don't allow competition
I have to agree with you. I went and saw it yesterdady with a few of my friends (the 3 of us increased the population of the theatre by 150%)
the effects were very well done, but the story lacked a lot. My main gripe with it, is that it doesn't really follow the book. (though honestly, IIRC if they stuck to Wells' view of the future, everyone would have fallen asleep).
The movie does however bring up 2 philosophical issue that I found rather interesting 1) Humanity has to think about what it is doing, never knowing what might happen down the line in N year 2) what would happen if someone could travel into the past and attempt to change things. though for another interesting view on this one, read some Heinlein.
I think Holywood needs to leave Cliche movies, but the problem with that is, they have their tried and true money-making plans, which ends up producing cliche movies
I think, that if something happens to *everyone*(read, your admins), that you have bigger problems than making sure that people can still get access to the system
Taken from the verio AUP: http://verio.net/company/policies/aup.cfm
Spamming -- Sending unsolicited bulk and/or commercial messages over the Internet (known as "spamming"). It is not only harmful because of its negative impact on consumer attitudes toward NTT/VERIO, but also because it can overload NTT/VERIO's network and disrupt service to NTT/VERIO subscribers. Also, maintaining an open SMTP relay is prohibited. When a complaint is received, NTT/VERIO has the discretion to determine from all of the evidence whether the email recipients were from an "opt-in" email list.
emphasis mine. as far as I can see from that, case closed, internet access revoked, end of story.
$225 - rent $60 - Bills $150 - Food $0 - Beer $0 - Movies $0 - New Computer hardware $0 - Electronics $0 - Car $0 - Insurance, Gas, Upkeep $30 - Money left at end of the month
as you can see, I don't really have the money for software, though, I have to say, I don't have pirated software on my computer, because I don't need it for what I do. emacs and gcc work fine for me
at one point, My professor for a class typed up the entire class notes, and had them printed out at $10 a copy. I think that was the most useful and cost efective text that I have aquired (outside of my CS books)
I spend $300 a semester on school books, and while some of the (Steven's Nettowrk programming for example) are useful even after the class, I pay about 50-100 dollars a semester on books that I am never going to use again, and when they don't buy them back (even at 50%) becuase they aren't going to be used next year, I get rather peeved.
Now my school also have site lisences for huge amounts of software, but still some of us have to get other software, and it costs us, escpecially if we're only going to use it for one class. I know lots of people that download this or that from "the largest Warez site this side of the mississippi" the school network, and then delete them when they don't need them any more
Copy protection, it sounds like everybody is touting it as the best thing since sliced bread.
I'm sorry, but maybe the best method of copy protection would be to charge a decent ammount for products and services.
now, I've taken some economics, and as a general rule luxery goods, like CDs, DVDs, software, etc... are elastic goods: you will sell at least proportionetly more if you reduce the price. my offhand guess is that if they charged a few cents over cost (including labor, electricity, rent, materials...) they would sell a lot more, make profit, and have much less of a problem with copying
>>he argument of keeping the honest people honest is therefore kind of invalid. Once someone has broken a system, everyone has broken it.
True, once a system is broken, it's like an egg, you can't, even with the help of all the king/congress/MPAA's horses and all the king/congress/MPAA's men put it back together again. Everyone now has access, if only theoretical, to break the system themselves.
but "honest people" (read: people who will pay for all services at the set price) will still pay for what they get.
Now, on top of that, lets take the DMCA and these new nasty DVDs that can't be played on computers. Take an original, store-bought, offical, copy of the "sneakers" DVD. under "official" dvd clients on your computer it will not run, as "copy protection" Lets also assume that the only DVD player I have is my computer what then? The only recourse for me, if I don't return it, is to break the system (or use a published break of the system) to view what I have purchased to view.
my point: "the more you tighten you grip, the more systems will slip through your fingers" the more restrictive that copy-protection, or DRMs get, the more people will try to break them, and one way or another, and simply put, the product must have some use, and hence has to have some way to get through whatever protective mechanisms are in place, and these will be found, and reproduced.
more legislation? I think that's actually not where we need to go. escpecially not one that makes it illegal to talk about something... last time I checked, the first ammendment was still in force.
Stopping information, that would be a neat trick, and let me state once and for all, a civilization that doesn't allow for fresh thought is not one that I want to be a part of
IMHO there are a few problems 1) the settlement doesn't do anything, what's to stop M$ from breaking it's agreements has it has so many times before?
2) What's the deal with presenting an alternate settlement *after* the hearing on what is currently proposed has started? that just seems a little weird to me.
3) M$ obviously believes that becuase it controls the money it controls what goes on in the courts. -- Linux: because I want to get there today!
As one of the social-life-lacking high-school geeks that turned into a geek with a life in college (and well on my way to the last part, I hope) That is very true.
The thing is there are always people who don't develop like that.
I myself have found that there are problems that I can solve in minutes when others struggle, but at the same time vice versa as well. haveing one guru isn't neccisarrily enough, but at the same time you do need to find the ones that are actually gurus and can do what they are supposed to do
I am a believer in open source, and find that Linux in no way poses a threat to IP. Napster I admit does, However I can also see the side that says that Napster only serves to excert pressure on the industry.
I think that the Industry has been running rampage for far to long, and has gotten fixed in this rut where they believe that whatever they do is right.
as for government monitoring your every click, take a look at the RPI bill in the UK.
I read today the MS wants to move to a subscription based service. I have problems with that, becuase I do not want to be forced into MS's view of what is right for me. If they do move over to a subscription bassed system, I will drop all of my MS products like a hot potatoe, and probably end up as one of the most viehement anti-MS people around.
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why would you want one?
I mean OpenOffice has pretty much all of the functionality, and it runs better anyways.
and the teusday's and the wednesday's and the thursday's... friday's aren't that bad though
ANybody who's used Gaim already knows... Under the hood, AIM and ICQ aleady are the same. Both use the proprietary OSCAR protocol, they ust log into different servers.
oh well, I guess adding the ability for all numerical names to the AIM servers would just be *way* to hard... I mean all you'd have to do would be to copy the database of users over.
just my $0.02
AMEN! Brother, I say we declare every Monday to be Hell^Hp Desk Appreciation day.
That's not the point, when moving over to a new medium, from scratch, you need something to build on.
You can't just jump to 64-bit with no compatability with 32-bit, nothing will work, and then you'll go broke.
IMHO If you want to move to 64-bit, you want at least one step of conpatability to allow for easy migration.
Oh well, just my $0.02
I Work at a help desk at an I2 University. Most of the time when we get the calls about the lamentable Ping Times... We tell them that we cannot assist them in illegal applications.
that and we set each wall jack to 10BaseT Half-duplex... that helped too
that... and when my SSH sesion starts lagging badly, I find someone and pingflood them to death for a few seconds... and wow... my conncetion is much better for a while... *Evil Grin*
If it's custom written, the wheel has been reinvented a few times at least.
RPI has a similar system... we have a web-interface for passwd... I think how it's done, is we wrote custom passwd and the web ap, to update the AFS and Kerberos, and the win domains. I don't know exactly how it works.
My point... It's done quite regualrly
I've seen the same thing happen with a cable service. RoadRunner (AOL/TimeWarner) wasn't being athorative about their domain names, and was pointing to themselves as the autorative name server... it broke... it also took them about 72 hours to get that fixed...
After a 2 day outage, my house finally switched from RoadRunner to Verizon DSL, and haven't had a problem since. We don't get any of their stuff, yeah we have access to their mail server, but we don't use it much.
my point: it doesn't really matter, as long as you have your pipe, and the tpye of pipe shouldn't matter, so why the decision that 1 medium of transfering bits is different from another medium, and hence subject to different regulations
Ok, let me get this straight... DSL providers have to open their lines to competition, but Broadband providers dont.
hrmmm...
DSL: High Speed internet access
Cable: High Speed internet access
The differance being that the cable internet providers are also "content providers"? because they own 9 10ths of the media? ok... does anybody else see this as a problem (besides the obvious lack of meaningful content being provided)?
I find it rather interesting that the FCCs lone democrat was the only vote against the decision... lets look at some parallels here, the M$ case
Democrats in White House: Push M$ to court for being a monopoly; Democrat in the FCC: try to prevent monopolies
Republicans in White house: let the M$ case slide, but try to keep face; Republicans in the FCC: go ahead, don't allow competition
remind me again why we elected Bush?
or don't have Mod points at this point
I have to agree with you. I went and saw it yesterdady with a few of my friends (the 3 of us increased the population of the theatre by 150%)
the effects were very well done, but the story lacked a lot. My main gripe with it, is that it doesn't really follow the book. (though honestly, IIRC if they stuck to Wells' view of the future, everyone would have fallen asleep).
The movie does however bring up 2 philosophical issue that I found rather interesting
1) Humanity has to think about what it is doing, never knowing what might happen down the line in N year
2) what would happen if someone could travel into the past and attempt to change things. though for another interesting view on this one, read some Heinlein.
I think Holywood needs to leave Cliche movies, but the problem with that is, they have their tried and true money-making plans, which ends up producing cliche movies
I think, that if something happens to *everyone*(read, your admins), that you have bigger problems than making sure that people can still get access to the system
Taken from the verio AUP: http://verio.net/company/policies/aup.cfm
Spamming -- Sending unsolicited bulk and/or commercial messages over the Internet (known as "spamming"). It is not only harmful because of its negative impact on consumer attitudes toward NTT/VERIO, but also because it can overload NTT/VERIO's network and disrupt service to NTT/VERIO subscribers. Also, maintaining an open SMTP relay is prohibited. When a complaint is received, NTT/VERIO has the discretion to determine from all of the evidence whether the email recipients were from an "opt-in" email list.
emphasis mine. as far as I can see from that, case closed, internet access revoked, end of story.
$225 - rent
$60 - Bills
$150 - Food
$0 - Beer
$0 - Movies
$0 - New Computer hardware
$0 - Electronics
$0 - Car
$0 - Insurance, Gas, Upkeep
$30 - Money left at end of the month
as you can see, I don't really have the money for software, though, I have to say, I don't have pirated software on my computer, because I don't need it for what I do. emacs and gcc work fine for me
at one point, My professor for a class typed up the entire class notes, and had them printed out at $10 a copy. I think that was the most useful and cost efective text that I have aquired (outside of my CS books)
I spend $300 a semester on school books, and while some of the (Steven's Nettowrk programming for example) are useful even after the class, I pay about 50-100 dollars a semester on books that I am never going to use again, and when they don't buy them back (even at 50%) becuase they aren't going to be used next year, I get rather peeved.
Now my school also have site lisences for huge amounts of software, but still some of us have to get other software, and it costs us, escpecially if we're only going to use it for one class. I know lots of people that download this or that from "the largest Warez site this side of the mississippi" the school network, and then delete them when they don't need them any more
Copy protection, it sounds like everybody is touting it as the best thing since sliced bread.
I'm sorry, but maybe the best method of copy protection would be to charge a decent ammount for products and services.
now, I've taken some economics, and as a general rule luxery goods, like CDs, DVDs, software, etc... are elastic goods: you will sell at least proportionetly more if you reduce the price. my offhand guess is that if they charged a few cents over cost (including labor, electricity, rent, materials...) they would sell a lot more, make profit, and have much less of a problem with copying
>>he argument of keeping the honest people honest is therefore kind of invalid. Once someone has broken a system, everyone has broken it.
True, once a system is broken, it's like an egg, you can't, even with the help of all the king/congress/MPAA's horses and all the king/congress/MPAA's men put it back together again. Everyone now has access, if only theoretical, to break the system themselves.
but "honest people" (read: people who will pay for all services at the set price) will still pay for what they get.
Now, on top of that, lets take the DMCA and these new nasty DVDs that can't be played on computers. Take an original, store-bought, offical, copy of the "sneakers" DVD. under "official" dvd clients on your computer it will not run, as "copy protection" Lets also assume that the only DVD player I have is my computer what then? The only recourse for me, if I don't return it, is to break the system (or use a published break of the system) to view what I have purchased to view.
my point: "the more you tighten you grip, the more systems will slip through your fingers" the more restrictive that copy-protection, or DRMs get, the more people will try to break them, and one way or another, and simply put, the product must have some use, and hence has to have some way to get through whatever protective mechanisms are in place, and these will be found, and reproduced.
more legislation? I think that's actually not where we need to go. escpecially not one that makes it illegal to talk about something... last time I checked, the first ammendment was still in force.
Stopping information, that would be a neat trick, and let me state once and for all, a civilization that doesn't allow for fresh thought is not one that I want to be a part of
IMHO there are a few problems
1) the settlement doesn't do anything, what's to stop M$ from breaking it's agreements has it has so many times before?
2) What's the deal with presenting an alternate settlement *after* the hearing on what is currently proposed has started? that just seems a little weird to me.
3) M$ obviously believes that becuase it controls the money it controls what goes on in the courts.
--
Linux: because I want to get there today!
As one of the social-life-lacking high-school geeks that turned into a geek with a life in college (and well on my way to the last part, I hope) That is very true.
The thing is there are always people who don't develop like that.
I myself have found that there are problems that I can solve in minutes when others struggle, but at the same time vice versa as well. haveing one guru isn't neccisarrily enough, but at the same time you do need to find the ones that are actually gurus and can do what they are supposed to do
I am a believer in open source, and find that Linux in no way poses a threat to IP. Napster I admit does, However I can also see the side that says that Napster only serves to excert pressure on the industry.
I think that the Industry has been running rampage for far to long, and has gotten fixed in this rut where they believe that whatever they do is right.
as for government monitoring your every click, take a look at the RPI bill in the UK.
I read today the MS wants to move to a subscription based service. I have problems with that, becuase I do not want to be forced into MS's view of what is right for me. If they do move over to a subscription bassed system, I will drop all of my MS products like a hot potatoe, and probably end up as one of the most viehement anti-MS people around.