However Linux OS will eventually be the underpinning of all OSes. It is already happening. Mark my words, M$ will one day switch to a *nix kernel. (I'm laughing at me right now, but part of me believes it).
Desktop window dressing will tone down (see: iOS, Metro) even more in the coming years, and the interface will change more and more dramatically.
But ultimately the *Nix will win the O/S war. Leave the UE/Desktop to the artists and the context/usage-model./endrambling
"They don't need any such effort, because the Chinese people are flocking to factory life as fast as they can possibly manage. Subsistence agriculture sucks."
Huh. I never thought of that. I don't know exact #s of people that were boned by business, but I know it is more than just a few thousand, there are thousands of villages, not people, that have been fucked over, and are trying to organize and sending "delegates" to bitch about the pollution. Sorry, no sources, all hearsay from articles I've read and unfortunately cannot reproduce on the spot here.
But what I haven't read a lot about is people deciding subsistence agriculture sucks and flocking to factories, in fact this is the first time I've heard it.
It sounds like a reasonable argument, I just haven't heard it before.
Well, it appears we "snapped our fingers" and made life horrible for millions of farmers, and cleaning up the destruction that these cheap-ass-unregulated pollution machines create will take thousands of years, so you are correct: the damage is done.
You totally buy into the fallacy. "By attacking the ones that offer the better situation for workers".../bangs head on table/ Don't you get it? They are the ones who made it WORSE by destroying the ability for agrarians to live sustainable by poisoning their air and water. It's happening all over china. peasant towns being destroyed by industry that feeds rich westerners. they can no longer manage their way of life so they have to work in a factory. so that the american economy can continue its cycle of consumption so the country doesn't collapse. brilliant strategy.
sustenance living is impossible when a big factory comes to town and shits on your farmland and pollutes your water supply, as is happening all over china. so unregulated industry destroys the way of life for millions of people, and they have no choice but to go work in that factory.
it is fucking tragic.
it is even MORE tragic that privileged americans completely understand this, but are too embarrassed to own it, and fight to deny it.
even more, more (?) tragic, i'm sure every electronic doodad i own was made in some southeast-asian factory just like this, so i'm directly related to the problem but it is unavoidable! Can I buy a car WITHOUT electronics? yeah, probably something pre 1970's. Can I buy a fridge/oven/washing machine/HVAC without chinese made electronics? i could ditch all that and live off the land by burning wood for energy and hunting, but that's totally unsustainable too. it's a trap! my only hope is for my FedEx plane to crash on christmas eve so I can live on my own island and become friends with a volleyball.
It is difficult, but motivation is already a big part of how our justice system works: manslaughter vs. premediated murder is the good example. I think the "hate crime" idea sends a clear message that we as a society think a crime is "worse" (big quotes there) if it is done out hatred of an entire race/orientation/religion of people. I've come to be support this idea.
"Targeting someone for a crime specifically because they are different than you" is a good place to start trying to understand. Its a new concept. America has a long history of segregation and punishing "different" people, so it makes sense that our culture largely doesn't get the "hate crime" concept yet. And I agree that with all laws there are fuzzy areas (hence: juries and appeals).
Unfortunately a lot of people clearly understand hate crimes, they just get butt-hurt because they are guilty of them, and it is easier to bitch about a system that points out your flaws then it is to be humble and improve yourself. I'm still a racist. Not a flag burning hood wearing swastika racist, but I subconsciously judge people, and its something I've worked on for over 20 years. I'm not sure I'll ever see clear from my white privilege, but I realize I do have blindspots. I'm not beating myself up over it, just trying to see the world with less bias.
You are having trouble because you don't understand hate crimes, or someone explained it to you ass backwards. Here's a post from above the spells it out quite nicely:
"Yes, but if you stole one stop sign, another person stole a 10km/h sign just before it and another person stole the 50km/h sign before that one and so on... who is to blame? The last person or them all?.. It's wrong to put all the blame on one person in a case like this.."
Oooh, a language discussion! Have I missed all the folks who put down functional programming (and LISP), when their experience is limited to the Wikipedia article, or a week or two of exposure in their CS101 class?
Good point! I enjoyed U4 a lot. A whole lot. Especially the music. But I never finished it, I must have been too young or easily bored, because it was a very dense game. I spent the entire summer of '85 playing it, I didn't have a job because I was 14 so it was the last of the "awesome kid summers."
Come to think if it, I never finished ANY Ultima games!/sadface But you are right, U4 was definitely a giant step forward in terms of story and plot. Huge. I finally watched the ending to U4 on YouTube recently. I felt like it was closure after nearly 3 decades.:-)
MM4 was definitely more polished, but I finished it really fast: I was kinda bummed by how easy it was compared to mm3. I didn't play mm5, but jumped back in for mm6. While the realtime/turn-based mix was nice, the graphics were kinda stinky. I loved the soundtrack though.
Can't wait to spend all summer playing U4 again! Oh wait... I'm 41.. with responsibilities. Crap.
Hah! Thanks for reminding me! I totally re-imagined the "glorious past" of DOS games and forgot so many details. Same to the person above who reminded me of Sound Card compatibility. Forgot _all_ about IRQ overlaps. Ugh...
I picked up all the Ultimas during a sale they had recently. Just for the record, some things don't always translate well from memory: U3 is tough grind, and unlike the grinding in WoW, staring at 3D wireframe dungeons is nowhere near as fun.
I also picked up the entire M&M pack. Might and Magic 3, despite the robots, really kicked ass (it came out in '91).
"I think you don't remember the early days of gaming on the PC. Diversity of product, thousands of different combinations of software/hardware, "
Can you give an example? I don't think this became a problem until "the late days" of pc gaming: the early days of gaming were a virtual Panacea!
I seem to recall PC gaming was all DOS and maybe you needed 6.22 because of a new himem.sys that id software required. No problems there at all, we were still 320x200 256-color VGA and happy.
Back then (=1995) gaming was DOS under windows, which was still VGA for ages, and new games needed CDROMS (Myst, 7th Guest) which was a hassle. But not thousands of different products. Hexen, Descent, Command & Conquer: all DOS.
The first shift in the landscape (besides CDROM) was the 3D revolution with Quake in 1996, which had a native version for the Riva128, and Tomb Raider, which had a 3dfx tie-in. That was the first time people started needed new video hardware, everything was DOS BLTs prior.
Fortunately DX3.0 and DX5 appeared, but they sucked, and all the games were crap (remember Gillian Anderson voicing "Hellbender"?)
id went to OGL, and people starting buying 3d cards. ATI was king, nVIdia was still shipping quaternion based hardware. ATI Rage 2 -- hot stuff!
It wasn't until around, oh, 1999? when Intel released the i815 chipset that suddenly there was a HUGE base of low quality graphics (815), and a tiny base if HIGH quality graphics (3DFx, and the re-"new" comer nVidia, ATI). That's what caused the clusterfuck. Suddenly the graphics market went all Cambrian and shit, and game developers had to support lots of different DX releases, capabilities, incompatible non-whql hardware, and OGL. Yee-gads!
Thanks to this huge delta between highvolume/lowperf and lowvol/highperf that started in the early 2000's, developers need huge validation teams today.
I was thinking about California: all those malls that have lights on 24/7 for security wasting electricity while the AC blasts away to keep the malls cool when they are empty (to avoid having to cycle them hard in the morning). If they can scale this up a factor of... 1x10^(12+2)... ugh... Nevermind.
even the website doesn't say. i'm wondering if this is part of a new strategy... there is just "ipad"... no version numbers anymore. hmmm... my theory doesn't even make sense to me.
I seem to remember an application like this back in '96/'97 timeframe that did the same thing with the fledgling WWW, around the same time as the Mersienne prime # search app. Did that happen?
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My heart goes out to the intelligent youth in TN.
It gets better.
Backend server *Nix is growing.
Mac is *Nix.
Every Linux desktop sucks.
However Linux OS will eventually be the underpinning of all OSes. It is already happening. Mark my words, M$ will one day switch to a *nix kernel. (I'm laughing at me right now, but part of me believes it).
Desktop window dressing will tone down (see: iOS, Metro) even more in the coming years, and the interface will change more and more dramatically.
But ultimately the *Nix will win the O/S war. Leave the UE/Desktop to the artists and the context/usage-model. /endrambling
"They don't need any such effort, because the Chinese people are flocking to factory life as fast as they can possibly manage. Subsistence agriculture sucks."
Huh. I never thought of that. I don't know exact #s of people that were boned by business, but I know it is more than just a few thousand, there are thousands of villages, not people, that have been fucked over, and are trying to organize and sending "delegates" to bitch about the pollution. Sorry, no sources, all hearsay from articles I've read and unfortunately cannot reproduce on the spot here.
But what I haven't read a lot about is people deciding subsistence agriculture sucks and flocking to factories, in fact this is the first time I've heard it.
It sounds like a reasonable argument, I just haven't heard it before.
Well, it appears we "snapped our fingers" and made life horrible for millions of farmers, and cleaning up the destruction that these cheap-ass-unregulated pollution machines create will take thousands of years, so you are correct: the damage is done.
You totally buy into the fallacy. "By attacking the ones that offer the better situation for workers"... /bangs head on table/ Don't you get it? They are the ones who made it WORSE by destroying the ability for agrarians to live sustainable by poisoning their air and water. It's happening all over china. peasant towns being destroyed by industry that feeds rich westerners. they can no longer manage their way of life so they have to work in a factory. so that the american economy can continue its cycle of consumption so the country doesn't collapse. brilliant strategy.
Do you get it now?
exactly exactly exactly.
sustenance living is impossible when a big factory comes to town and shits on your farmland and pollutes your water supply, as is happening all over china. so unregulated industry destroys the way of life for millions of people, and they have no choice but to go work in that factory.
it is fucking tragic.
it is even MORE tragic that privileged americans completely understand this, but are too embarrassed to own it, and fight to deny it.
even more, more (?) tragic, i'm sure every electronic doodad i own was made in some southeast-asian factory just like this, so i'm directly related to the problem but it is unavoidable! Can I buy a car WITHOUT electronics? yeah, probably something pre 1970's. Can I buy a fridge/oven/washing machine/HVAC without chinese made electronics? i could ditch all that and live off the land by burning wood for energy and hunting, but that's totally unsustainable too. it's a trap! my only hope is for my FedEx plane to crash on christmas eve so I can live on my own island and become friends with a volleyball.
Actually, nevermind, I follow.
But as the below poster stated, motivation has always been part of the penal system.
"the difference between manslaughter and murder isn't why you did it (the motivation), but whether you set out to kill someone in the first place."
I don't follow how there is a difference between those statements.
It is difficult, but motivation is already a big part of how our justice system works: manslaughter vs. premediated murder is the good example. I think the "hate crime" idea sends a clear message that we as a society think a crime is "worse" (big quotes there) if it is done out hatred of an entire race/orientation/religion of people. I've come to be support this idea.
"Targeting someone for a crime specifically because they are different than you" is a good place to start trying to understand. Its a new concept. America has a long history of segregation and punishing "different" people, so it makes sense that our culture largely doesn't get the "hate crime" concept yet. And I agree that with all laws there are fuzzy areas (hence: juries and appeals).
Unfortunately a lot of people clearly understand hate crimes, they just get butt-hurt because they are guilty of them, and it is easier to bitch about a system that points out your flaws then it is to be humble and improve yourself. I'm still a racist. Not a flag burning hood wearing swastika racist, but I subconsciously judge people, and its something I've worked on for over 20 years. I'm not sure I'll ever see clear from my white privilege, but I realize I do have blindspots. I'm not beating myself up over it, just trying to see the world with less bias.
You are having trouble because you don't understand hate crimes, or someone explained it to you ass backwards. Here's a post from above the spells it out quite nicely:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2730083&cid=39381299
Well put.
"Yes, but if you stole one stop sign, another person stole a 10km/h sign just before it and another person stole the 50km/h sign before that one and so on... who is to blame? The last person or them all?.. It's wrong to put all the blame on one person in a case like this.."
They all should get the same penalty.
Next question?
Oooh, a language discussion! Have I missed all the folks who put down functional programming (and LISP), when their experience is limited to the Wikipedia article, or a week or two of exposure in their CS101 class?
Don't start without me!
Good point! I enjoyed U4 a lot. A whole lot. Especially the music. But I never finished it, I must have been too young or easily bored, because it was a very dense game. I spent the entire summer of '85 playing it, I didn't have a job because I was 14 so it was the last of the "awesome kid summers."
Come to think if it, I never finished ANY Ultima games! /sadface But you are right, U4 was definitely a giant step forward in terms of story and plot. Huge. I finally watched the ending to U4 on YouTube recently. I felt like it was closure after nearly 3 decades. :-)
MM4 was definitely more polished, but I finished it really fast: I was kinda bummed by how easy it was compared to mm3. I didn't play mm5, but jumped back in for mm6. While the realtime/turn-based mix was nice, the graphics were kinda stinky. I loved the soundtrack though.
Can't wait to spend all summer playing U4 again! Oh wait... I'm 41.. with responsibilities. Crap.
Hah! Thanks for reminding me! I totally re-imagined the "glorious past" of DOS games and forgot so many details. Same to the person above who reminded me of Sound Card compatibility. Forgot _all_ about IRQ overlaps. Ugh...
I picked up all the Ultimas during a sale they had recently. Just for the record, some things don't always translate well from memory: U3 is tough grind, and unlike the grinding in WoW, staring at 3D wireframe dungeons is nowhere near as fun.
I also picked up the entire M&M pack. Might and Magic 3, despite the robots, really kicked ass (it came out in '91).
Playing MYST right now.
GOG is awesome.
"I think you don't remember the early days of gaming on the PC. Diversity of product, thousands of different combinations of software/hardware, "
Can you give an example? I don't think this became a problem until "the late days" of pc gaming: the early days of gaming were a virtual Panacea!
I seem to recall PC gaming was all DOS and maybe you needed 6.22 because of a new himem.sys that id software required. No problems there at all, we were still 320x200 256-color VGA and happy.
Back then (=1995) gaming was DOS under windows, which was still VGA for ages, and new games needed CDROMS (Myst, 7th Guest) which was a hassle. But not thousands of different products. Hexen, Descent, Command & Conquer: all DOS.
The first shift in the landscape (besides CDROM) was the 3D revolution with Quake in 1996, which had a native version for the Riva128, and Tomb Raider, which had a 3dfx tie-in. That was the first time people started needed new video hardware, everything was DOS BLTs prior.
Fortunately DX3.0 and DX5 appeared, but they sucked, and all the games were crap (remember Gillian Anderson voicing "Hellbender"?)
id went to OGL, and people starting buying 3d cards. ATI was king, nVIdia was still shipping quaternion based hardware. ATI Rage 2 -- hot stuff!
It wasn't until around, oh, 1999? when Intel released the i815 chipset that suddenly there was a HUGE base of low quality graphics (815), and a tiny base if HIGH quality graphics (3DFx, and the re-"new" comer nVidia, ATI). That's what caused the clusterfuck. Suddenly the graphics market went all Cambrian and shit, and game developers had to support lots of different DX releases, capabilities, incompatible non-whql hardware, and OGL. Yee-gads!
Thanks to this huge delta between highvolume/lowperf and lowvol/highperf that started in the early 2000's, developers need huge validation teams today.
I was thinking about California: all those malls that have lights on 24/7 for security wasting electricity while the AC blasts away to keep the malls cool when they are empty (to avoid having to cycle them hard in the morning). If they can scale this up a factor of ... 1x10^(12+2) ... ugh ... Nevermind.
yes, we need EVERYONE to be content creators. because if there's one thing i learned from teaching guitar lessons for 5 years, EVERYONE is a rockstar.
even the website doesn't say. i'm wondering if this is part of a new strategy... there is just "ipad"... no version numbers anymore. hmmm... my theory doesn't even make sense to me.
Hipsters have moved to 'droid. Where have you been, man?
I seem to remember an application like this back in '96/'97 timeframe that did the same thing with the fledgling WWW, around the same time as the Mersienne prime # search app. Did that happen?
Thanks for the incorrect grammar advice, Comic Book Guy.
Can the lasers penetrate the insides too, or is the 3D object just a convex hull?
So 140-145million hard drives will end up buried in landfill in Q1-2012! Yay!!!!