It should be illegal for these companies to keep user generated content once the user deletes it.
It's legal because the user agreed to let them keep it. I'm sure it's somewhere in those 6000 words nobody reads...probably something along the lines of "content uploaded by the user of the system becomes the sole property of the system" only more legalese sounding.
Funny...all these years I thought it had something to do with the drastically reduced coefficient of friction of ice (especially at just-below-freezing temps where there is a thin layer of liquid water present).
I agree, and I think random is the wrong choice of word for TFA. Network packet flow isn't random at all, but nonetheless it's quite unpredictable, quite chaotic, and constantly changing. In other words there are no easily (by humans at least) discernible patterns, which makes it great for injecting into something with a strictly defined pattern (music) to disrupt it enough that it tricks the human brain.
No, the money is a testament to the success of their business/marketing/etc. managers. It has little to do with the actual "artist" or, as more would likely refer to them, performer.
Perhaps the less random nature of what he calls natural randomness gives him more natural sounding results. Or, what's more likely, this is the equivalent of buying $500 cat5 cables because they cause less destortion in the 1s and 0s.
Yeah, those $500 cat8 cords are no good, they reduce the randomness in your network packets, which in turn reduces the quality of your computer synthesized music. Buy cheap network cables, that is the point of TFA.
As a function of their programming computers will always do what they are told to do - to suggest otherwise also suggests that computers have some form of intelligence.
The ocean does not do what it is told, but it is not intelligent.
Congratulations, you have just proven that the ocean is not a computer. What's next, proving that your pet rock is not a toaster?
Here's an idea. Just give everyone a degree for a specific price. Fuck the learning. If we're going to devalue the meaning of a college education, let's go for broke. We can figure out how to fix the problem later.
They have that...I keep getting ads all the time by email. In case you are interested, just contact: 8x6rqq@hares26wagonwheel.info
Fair enough... there was a time all the usenet binaries could have fit on a thumb drive, when binaries were small. I should have said feature length pornographic video.
Nah, the first thumbdrives were in 2000 at like 8MB, hardly enough to encompass all of usenet... especially the usenet of 2000!
> average "I always top off my tank" bone head Explain this one.
Attempting to put more gas into your tank after the pump auto-stops because the liquid has filled up to the point of the nozzle (aka, it's full). At this point, that extra gas goes out of a little overflow hole, and typically runs down and onto the ground where it becomes your very own little $3.899/gal environmental mini-disaster.
"Topping off" is a bit of a misleading term, but that's what they call it, even on the stickers at the pump. Tell me you have pumped gas into your car 100s of times and not see "do not top off" warning labels? If not, you must be from NJ.
If it's the same system my wife was working on a couple of years ago (they keep changing the name, but I THINK this is the same one) then yes, heavy encryption is in there, as are anonymity considerations, including extra care for low-density data (i.e., when you're the only car on the road).
Of course it's been years, and while cheap, that stuff isn't free, so I can't guarantee if it'll still be in the production version.
Exactly...it's all there during design, because the engineers actually care about those aspects. But when it comes to mass production and marketing (aka the bottom line) it all gets tossed out in favor of lower cost to the consumer.
I assume they will include an override (at least for the trials) that cuts the automated systems out of the loop (returning full control to the drivers) in case the automation fails or someone starts interfering with it. I would be surprised if their lawyers didn't insist upon it.
I sure wouldn't buy a car that didn't allow it to be disabled temporarily. Some times the systems are "too smart for their own good"... even simpler such things already in mass deployment like traction control demonstrate that.
Perhaps a better car analogy would be a planar transistor is a two-cylinder single-port injector engine and the intel 3d-tri-gate is a six-cylinder multiport injector engine...
No, the snow tires + dirt was better. You can return to the basement now.
Used cars have always been part of the market, and always will be. Some people can afford and/or want new cars, and they get them. Others are quite alright with a used car, which is not the same as the new one.
It's different with software though, because other than perhaps some missing packaging (that is of no real value anyway), the used item is equally as good as the new one. So people aren't "settling" for used software by compromising on features/cleanliness/etc. by going used...they are just simply paying less and getting the same end result.
In this global age, imposing artificial price differences is wrong. If they can afford to sell something cheaply somewhere they can afford to do it everywhere.
While I agree with your first sentance, your second one fails completely.
The whole reason they can "afford" to sell it cheaply in the third world countries is because it is being subsidized by the high prices in the higher income locations.
Equal pricing globally would probably turn that $150/$15 discrepancy into a mean price of something like $80. And then more people in the higher income area would buy it, but nobody in the third world country would. Overall the company selling the product sells about the same amount (maybe less) and gets less revenue for it. Not to mention the third world country misses out on the benefits -- unless of course they priate, which is what TFA is about anyway.
P.S. The price differences aren't artificial, they are (should be at least) based on market conditions. Think about real estate...same house in two different cities could be $100k vs. $650k for the same thing. Same house in a third world country might only be $30k, and would probably be considered a palace of the gods.
Why buy a computer with Windows when you want a computer without Windows? I buy lots of things and throw out part of it. I don't expect a refund on the skin of an onion that gets peeled and promptly thrown away.
I am pretty sure that the skin of an onion doesn't cost 100 bucks:)
Car engines are not interchangeable parts. Operating systems are. A better analogy would be that the Chevy dealer shouldn't be allowed to force you to pay $1000 for a stereo system when you know you can have an even better aftermarket system installed for $200.
And to continue your analogy, making it a bit more relevant here...
And if you buy a new Chevy, you cannot remove the stereo system and return it to the dealer for a refund of that $1000 it supposedly costs.
I could probably buy a new car for $20k and get at least $5-10k back in "returned parts" that I don't need or could find better/cheaper aftermarket replacements for. But you just can't do that because the deal is that it's a package deal.
price of ( sum of parts ) != sum of ( price of parts ).
The statement This comes a week after Trend Micro released a mobility security app for Android. is pure fact.
There is no opinion in there, only the one you inferred in your head. And at least it was a fact, not some leading rhetorical question that is obviously known to be false by the asker (think TV news stations and their "Could XXX be the YYY that kills you? More at 11." bullshit).
And that's pretty much what T linked FA did with their title... Either The Trend Micro Chairman Is Completely Clueless Or He Is Spreading FUD
The problem is when editorials are submitted as "news" instead of spending 10 seconds googling for the actual source.
Now here's some editorializing for you, since I'm a proud member in this gallery of peanuts:
Yes, it's damn fishy and damn obvious that TM is using this as a "free" marketing ploy. It's a press release, you know where those things usually come from? Marketing departments. I would bet that that Mr. Chang himself didn't even make the statement, but maybe approved it be released under his name during some board meeting.
...I'm sure there are some downsides, like this might not work for violent criminals, etc.
That would explain why the GP said:
A much better punishment for nonviolent crimes...
I realize that this is/. and we can't be bothered to RTFA, but you can at least have the decency to RTFR before replying. It's too bad I posted this, now I can't mod you -1 Obvilious:(
Well, you need to memorize a ton of shit, and MATH is 100% fiction and it takes a lot of knowledge to understand that. So is software.
No, I'd say math is only approximately 50% fiction. And here's my mathematical reasoning...
In math you have real numbers such as 2.548, 8.62943, 3.1415926 and so on... And you also have imaginary nubmers such as sqrt(-1), commonly known as i and so on. Well there are infinitely many of each, so averaging them out it's about a 50/50 mix.
* Disclaimer: Although many will argue that INF / INF = 0 by using examples involving limits, but that suggests that math doesn't even exist. That's no good though, because using something itself to prove that it doesn't exist creates a paradox.
Reminds me of a joke from the days of programming in Turbo Pascal... God is Real, unless declared Integer.
Slashdot Mirror
It should be illegal for these companies to keep user generated content once the user deletes it.
It's legal because the user agreed to let them keep it. I'm sure it's somewhere in those 6000 words nobody reads...probably something along the lines of "content uploaded by the user of the system becomes the sole property of the system" only more legalese sounding.
Yeah...I read that part and was thinking...what exactly about airport operations is appealing to customers?
Funny...all these years I thought it had something to do with the drastically reduced coefficient of friction of ice (especially at just-below-freezing temps where there is a thin layer of liquid water present).
I agree, and I think random is the wrong choice of word for TFA. Network packet flow isn't random at all, but nonetheless it's quite unpredictable, quite chaotic, and constantly changing. In other words there are no easily (by humans at least) discernible patterns, which makes it great for injecting into something with a strictly defined pattern (music) to disrupt it enough that it tricks the human brain.
No, the money is a testament to the success of their business/marketing/etc. managers. It has little to do with the actual "artist" or, as more would likely refer to them, performer.
Perhaps the less random nature of what he calls natural randomness gives him more natural sounding results. Or, what's more likely, this is the equivalent of buying $500 cat5 cables because they cause less destortion in the 1s and 0s.
Yeah, those $500 cat8 cords are no good, they reduce the randomness in your network packets, which in turn reduces the quality of your computer synthesized music. Buy cheap network cables, that is the point of TFA.
As a function of their programming computers will always do what they are told to do - to suggest otherwise also suggests that computers have some form of intelligence.
The ocean does not do what it is told, but it is not intelligent.
Congratulations, you have just proven that the ocean is not a computer. What's next, proving that your pet rock is not a toaster?
Here's an idea. Just give everyone a degree for a specific price. Fuck the learning. If we're going to devalue the meaning of a college education, let's go for broke. We can figure out how to fix the problem later.
They have that...I keep getting ads all the time by email. In case you are interested, just contact: 8x6rqq@hares26wagonwheel.info
...they say "only install apps from trusted publishers"...yeah...ok...so, no one? If I did that, I'd have only the pre-loaded apps.
And I'd have zero.
I'm not, yet, but it's definitely a limited resource that is on the verge of depletion!
Fair enough... there was a time all the usenet binaries could have fit on a thumb drive, when binaries were small. I should have said feature length pornographic video.
Nah, the first thumbdrives were in 2000 at like 8MB, hardly enough to encompass all of usenet ... especially the usenet of 2000!
> average "I always top off my tank" bone head
Explain this one.
Attempting to put more gas into your tank after the pump auto-stops because the liquid has filled up to the point of the nozzle (aka, it's full). At this point, that extra gas goes out of a little overflow hole, and typically runs down and onto the ground where it becomes your very own little $3.899/gal environmental mini-disaster.
"Topping off" is a bit of a misleading term, but that's what they call it, even on the stickers at the pump. Tell me you have pumped gas into your car 100s of times and not see "do not top off" warning labels? If not, you must be from NJ.
C'mon, nothing new about this study, the poster for it came out years and years ago. Move along.
If it's the same system my wife was working on a couple of years ago (they keep changing the name, but I THINK this is the same one) then yes, heavy encryption is in there, as are anonymity considerations, including extra care for low-density data (i.e., when you're the only car on the road).
Of course it's been years, and while cheap, that stuff isn't free, so I can't guarantee if it'll still be in the production version.
Exactly...it's all there during design, because the engineers actually care about those aspects. But when it comes to mass production and marketing (aka the bottom line) it all gets tossed out in favor of lower cost to the consumer.
I assume they will include an override (at least for the trials) that cuts the automated systems out of the loop (returning full control to the drivers) in case the automation fails or someone starts interfering with it. I would be surprised if their lawyers didn't insist upon it.
I sure wouldn't buy a car that didn't allow it to be disabled temporarily. Some times the systems are "too smart for their own good" ... even simpler such things already in mass deployment like traction control demonstrate that.
Perhaps a better car analogy would be a planar transistor is a two-cylinder single-port injector engine and the intel 3d-tri-gate is a six-cylinder multiport injector engine...
No, the snow tires + dirt was better. You can return to the basement now.
Car analogy fail.
Used cars have always been part of the market, and always will be. Some people can afford and/or want new cars, and they get them. Others are quite alright with a used car, which is not the same as the new one.
It's different with software though, because other than perhaps some missing packaging (that is of no real value anyway), the used item is equally as good as the new one. So people aren't "settling" for used software by compromising on features/cleanliness/etc. by going used...they are just simply paying less and getting the same end result.
Yes, I've had this before...at some sno-cone stand in California in the early 1990s even...lol.
It was actually a really good flavor.
In this global age, imposing artificial price differences is wrong. If they can afford to sell something cheaply somewhere they can afford to do it everywhere.
While I agree with your first sentance, your second one fails completely.
The whole reason they can "afford" to sell it cheaply in the third world countries is because it is being subsidized by the high prices in the higher income locations.
Equal pricing globally would probably turn that $150/$15 discrepancy into a mean price of something like $80. And then more people in the higher income area would buy it, but nobody in the third world country would. Overall the company selling the product sells about the same amount (maybe less) and gets less revenue for it. Not to mention the third world country misses out on the benefits -- unless of course they priate, which is what TFA is about anyway.
P.S. The price differences aren't artificial, they are (should be at least) based on market conditions. Think about real estate...same house in two different cities could be $100k vs. $650k for the same thing. Same house in a third world country might only be $30k, and would probably be considered a palace of the gods.
Why buy a computer with Windows when you want a computer without Windows? I buy lots of things and throw out part of it. I don't expect a refund on the skin of an onion that gets peeled and promptly thrown away.
I am pretty sure that the skin of an onion doesn't cost 100 bucks :)
It does on $300 onions!!
Which is why Boot Camp does not exist.
It exists because other OSs can run, not because they run better...duh!
Mod parent -1 for making me look like an apple fan boy ... lol.
Car engines are not interchangeable parts. Operating systems are. A better analogy would be that the Chevy dealer shouldn't be allowed to force you to pay $1000 for a stereo system when you know you can have an even better aftermarket system installed for $200.
And to continue your analogy, making it a bit more relevant here...
And if you buy a new Chevy, you cannot remove the stereo system and return it to the dealer for a refund of that $1000 it supposedly costs.
I could probably buy a new car for $20k and get at least $5-10k back in "returned parts" that I don't need or could find better/cheaper aftermarket replacements for. But you just can't do that because the deal is that it's a package deal.
price of ( sum of parts ) != sum of ( price of parts ).
The statement This comes a week after Trend Micro released a mobility security app for Android. is pure fact.
There is no opinion in there, only the one you inferred in your head. And at least it was a fact, not some leading rhetorical question that is obviously known to be false by the asker (think TV news stations and their "Could XXX be the YYY that kills you? More at 11." bullshit).
And that's pretty much what T linked FA did with their title...
Either The Trend Micro Chairman Is Completely Clueless Or He Is Spreading FUD
The problem is when editorials are submitted as "news" instead of spending 10 seconds googling for the actual source.
Now here's some editorializing for you, since I'm a proud member in this gallery of peanuts:
Yes, it's damn fishy and damn obvious that TM is using this as a "free" marketing ploy. It's a press release, you know where those things usually come from? Marketing departments. I would bet that that Mr. Chang himself didn't even make the statement, but maybe approved it be released under his name during some board meeting.
...I'm sure there are some downsides, like this might not work for violent criminals, etc.
That would explain why the GP said:
A much better punishment for nonviolent crimes...
I realize that this is /. and we can't be bothered to RTFA, but you can at least have the decency to RTFR before replying. It's too bad I posted this, now I can't mod you -1 Obvilious :(
Well, you need to memorize a ton of shit, and MATH is 100% fiction and it takes a lot of knowledge to understand that. So is software.
No, I'd say math is only approximately 50% fiction. And here's my mathematical reasoning...
In math you have real numbers such as 2.548, 8.62943, 3.1415926 and so on...
And you also have imaginary nubmers such as sqrt(-1), commonly known as i and so on.
Well there are infinitely many of each, so averaging them out it's about a 50/50 mix.
* Disclaimer: Although many will argue that INF / INF = 0 by using examples involving limits, but that suggests that math doesn't even exist. That's no good though, because using something itself to prove that it doesn't exist creates a paradox.
Reminds me of a joke from the days of programming in Turbo Pascal... God is Real, unless declared Integer.