Real programmers don't eat quiche. Real programmers don't even know how to spell quiche; they eat Twinkies, Coke and palate-scorching Szechwan food.
A comparison of Linux IDEs
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KDE Wins 3 awards
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· Score: 2, Insightful
I like quiche.
IDE's can help find and resolve some problems a hell of a lot quicker than CLI tools. It can also generate quality code or program templates.
Before trolling again in such a cute manner, why don't you check out this and this.
Quick summary of the 2nd link:
How do some of the integrated development environments (IDEs) for Linux rate, especially when compared with old favorites like Emacs? And does Linux need IDEs at all? Sam Mikes dons his flameproof suit as he investigates this controversial topic, comparing Metrowerks's CodeWarrior, Cygnus's GNUPro Toolkit, and John Lindal's Code Crusader with XEmacs and Microsoft Visual Studio. (6,000 words)
I've used kdevelop for some string-parsing stuff, and the walk-through debugging facilities are just superb - dare I say it's a bit like using the Visual C++ IDE on Linux;)
IRELANDOFFLINE PRESSURE GROUP ANNOUNCES "BLACKOUT" PROTEST
DUBLIN, IRELAND -- November 5, 2001 -- IrelandOffline, an independent organisation working to bring affordable Internet access services to Ireland, has announced the "IrelandOffline Blackout", a multipronged protest scheduled to take place on Friday, November the 16th, 2001. The protest has been organised to highlight the non-existence of flat-rate and broadband Internet access services in Ireland - services that make Internet access affordable and so promote the growth of Internet use, e-commerce, and competition.
"This case is about the freedom of technologists to innovate and the public's right to communicate," said Fred von Lohmann, senior intellectual property attorney for the EFF.
This sounds chillingly like what Bill Gates said a few days ago...:)
jeffy: I thought you were being quite sarcastic, glad to see you're not;)
BTW have you noticed how hard it is to find the news articles related to that New York announcement. IIRC it was about 10 - 15 states, and the announcement was around Sept 4th. Google, AV, CNET, etc all fail to turn up results.
"Of course, MS still has to face Europe, and we all know how rough and tough they are gonna be."
Just wondering if you meant that as irony or at face value: personally I think that Europe won't be the easy push over that the US (or more particularly GW's administration) has been.
Also, before September 11th happened, I remember reading an article where NY state and some other heavy hitters said that they would step up to the plate and persue the case if the DoJ did what they've just done. I hope that despite the terrible attrocity, that NY will still lead the way in this cause.
Anyone got any links to articles from around Sept 4th or so when that was mentioned?
btw there's some good info on differing international laws on antitrust over at: http://www.hg.org/antitrust.html
Yes, simplification, which will end up with a simple workaround if the courts take that view: all that Warner has to do is include some crappy DVD player s/w with every film.
I'm wondering what the wholesale vs retail prices are for videos, is the gap as wide?
From article:
Warner simultaneously releases DVDs to the retail and rental market. They are color coded - silver for retail at
a wholesale price of $24, and blue for rental, wholesaling at $55.
When Warner threatened to sue video shops caught renting the retail-designated DVD, the association -
representing 55 per cent of Australian video shops - took the offensive. It argues that under the Copyright Act,
Warner cannot restrict the rental of DVD movies.
Re:Messing things up or using Perl for what it fit
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Perl6 for Mortals
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· Score: 2, Informative
"as an integrated, improved replacement of the classical shell/sed/awk/grep etc. toolchain"
Agreed, that's very true in some situations. I don't want to reinvent the wheel when the sed faq ( http://www.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr/~george/sed/sedfaq.tx t ) answers this so well:
6.5. When should I ignore sed and use Awk or Perl instead?
If you can write the same script in Awk or Perl and do it in less
time, then use Perl or Awk. There's no reason to spend an hour
writing and debugging a sed script if you can do it in Perl in 10
minutes (assuming that you know Perl already) and if the processing
time or memory use is not a factor. Don't hunt pheasants with a.22
if you have a shotgun at your side . . . unless you simply enjoy
the challenge!
Specifically, if you need to:
- heavily comment what your scripts do. Use GNU sed, awk, or perl.
- do case insensitive searching. Use gsed302, sedmod, awk or perl.
- count fields (words) in a line. Use awk.
- count lines in a block or objects in a file. Use awk.
- check lengths of strings or do math operations. Use awk or perl.
- handle very long lines or need very large buffers. Use gsed or perl.
- handle binary data (control characters). Use perl (binmode).
- loop through an array or list. Use awk or perl.
- test for file existence, filesize, or fileage. Use perl or shell.
- treat each paragraph as a line. Use awk.
- indicate/alternate|options/ in regexes. Use gsed, awk or perl.
- use syntax like \xNN to match hex codes. Use perl.
- use (nested (regexes)) with backreferences. Use perl.
Perl lovers: I know that perl can do everything awk can do, but
please don't write me to complain. Why heft a shotgun when a.45
will do? As we all know, "There is more than one way to do it."
He seemed to make quite a deal of the fact that the guy wrote it one session (and I am in no way suggestion that's not a major feat), and also having sat down with him for a couple of beers to discuss it also helps colour the tone of the article.
I'd like to see what the author (Moshe)'s opinion was after talking to Rik for the same period.
I think he meant that they would soon be posted on the Byte website:
The results were very interesting indeed. Since this benchmark is too much to be handled in this article, Byte.com will post it here soon for you to read.
Excellent news... looks like a) the big boys (corps) have come in and had a word in their ear, or b) all your letters and lobbying of representatives has worked... I'm with the former:)
Yeah, don't forget they also have a nice banner free
text-only search. It used to be at av.com/?text which was dead handy to type when bookmarks weren't around...
They'd always been my favourite until they put a banner on their text-only page, that really pissed me off, but thankfully it's gone again.
I think I'll still be using the above link for quite some time to come (except when searching for obviously post-July info), unless Google come up with a decent implementation of AVs boolean capabilities as mentioned above.
Like the article says, it'd be impossible to get people to use that in the office... I certainly wouldn't.
As well as that, if this did take off, can you imagine the implications for language: grunts, moans and sighs would become ubiquitous in everyday conversation...:)
What's really sad is that people of this skill level have rooted so many boxes.
I think there's a major lack of interest from management in allocating resource and budgets to prevention - a well trained admin could probably close off at least 99% of these holes given enough time.
I think that we need to promote awareness of these issues to a much greater degree than it currently is.
So what we need is a way to easily configure a machine as secured workstation with practically all services off... don't the Linux distro's have something like this already? Al.
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IDE's can help find and resolve some problems a hell of a lot quicker than CLI tools. It can also generate quality code or program templates.
Before trolling again in such a cute manner, why don't you check out this and this.
Quick summary of the 2nd link:
rgds,
Al.
Agreed on the 2 points.
;)
I've used kdevelop for some string-parsing stuff, and the walk-through debugging facilities are just superb - dare I say it's a bit like using the Visual C++ IDE on Linux
Al.
"This case is about the freedom of technologists to innovate and the public's right to communicate," said Fred von Lohmann, senior intellectual property attorney for the EFF.
:)
This sounds chillingly like what Bill Gates said a few days ago...
Al.
Who didn't see this coming: http://alive.znep.com/~marcs/passport/ ? :)
Al.
jeffy: I thought you were being quite sarcastic, glad to see you're not ;)
BTW have you noticed how hard it is to find the news articles related to that New York announcement. IIRC it was about 10 - 15 states, and the announcement was around Sept 4th. Google, AV, CNET, etc all fail to turn up results.
"Of course, MS still has to face Europe, and we all know how rough and tough they are gonna be."
Just wondering if you meant that as irony or at face value: personally I think that Europe won't be the easy push over that the US (or more particularly GW's administration) has been.
Also, before September 11th happened, I remember reading an article where NY state and some other heavy hitters said that they would step up to the plate and persue the case if the DoJ did what they've just done. I hope that despite the terrible attrocity, that NY will still lead the way in this cause.
Anyone got any links to articles from around Sept 4th or so when that was mentioned?
btw there's some good info on differing international laws on antitrust over at: http://www.hg.org/antitrust.html
Al.
Yes, simplification, which will end up with a simple workaround if the courts take that view: all that Warner has to do is include some crappy DVD player s/w with every film.
Al.
I'm wondering what the wholesale vs retail prices are for videos, is the gap as wide?
From article:
Warner simultaneously releases DVDs to the retail and rental market. They are color coded - silver for retail at
a wholesale price of $24, and blue for rental, wholesaling at $55.
When Warner threatened to sue video shops caught renting the retail-designated DVD, the association -
representing 55 per cent of Australian video shops - took the offensive. It argues that under the Copyright Act,
Warner cannot restrict the rental of DVD movies.
"as an integrated, improved replacement of the classical shell/sed/awk/grep etc. toolchain"
x t ) answers this so well:
.22
/alternate|options/ in regexes. Use gsed, awk or perl.
.45
Agreed, that's very true in some situations. I don't want to reinvent the wheel when the sed faq ( http://www.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr/~george/sed/sedfaq.t
6.5. When should I ignore sed and use Awk or Perl instead?
If you can write the same script in Awk or Perl and do it in less
time, then use Perl or Awk. There's no reason to spend an hour
writing and debugging a sed script if you can do it in Perl in 10
minutes (assuming that you know Perl already) and if the processing
time or memory use is not a factor. Don't hunt pheasants with a
if you have a shotgun at your side . . . unless you simply enjoy
the challenge!
Specifically, if you need to:
- heavily comment what your scripts do. Use GNU sed, awk, or perl.
- do case insensitive searching. Use gsed302, sedmod, awk or perl.
- count fields (words) in a line. Use awk.
- count lines in a block or objects in a file. Use awk.
- check lengths of strings or do math operations. Use awk or perl.
- handle very long lines or need very large buffers. Use gsed or perl.
- handle binary data (control characters). Use perl (binmode).
- loop through an array or list. Use awk or perl.
- test for file existence, filesize, or fileage. Use perl or shell.
- treat each paragraph as a line. Use awk.
- indicate
- use syntax like \xNN to match hex codes. Use perl.
- use (nested (regexes)) with backreferences. Use perl.
Perl lovers: I know that perl can do everything awk can do, but
please don't write me to complain. Why heft a shotgun when a
will do? As we all know, "There is more than one way to do it."
Hi John,
What do you think of XP, particularly with regard to Passport and privacy concerns?
Thanks,
Al.
He seemed to make quite a deal of the fact that the guy wrote it one session (and I am in no way suggestion that's not a major feat), and also having sat down with him for a couple of beers to discuss it also helps colour the tone of the article.
I'd like to see what the author (Moshe)'s opinion was after talking to Rik for the same period.
Al.
Please insert sense of humour into drive a:
(L)augh, (R)etry, (F)ail.
Excellent news... looks like a) the big boys (corps) have come in and had a word in their ear, or b) all your letters and lobbying of representatives has worked... I'm with the former :)
Al.
Yeah, don't forget they also have a nice banner free text-only search. It used to be at av.com/?text which was dead handy to type when bookmarks weren't around...
They'd always been my favourite until they put a banner on their text-only page, that really pissed me off, but thankfully it's gone again.
I think I'll still be using the above link for quite some time to come (except when searching for obviously post-July info), unless Google come up with a decent implementation of AVs boolean capabilities as mentioned above.
Al.
Yeah, and we all know how good their services are!
What a joke...
Al.
Like the article says, it'd be impossible to get people to use that in the office... I certainly wouldn't.
:)
As well as that, if this did take off, can you imagine the implications for language: grunts, moans and sighs would become ubiquitous in everyday conversation...
Al.
What's really sad is that people of this skill level have rooted so many boxes.
I think there's a major lack of interest from management in allocating resource and budgets to prevention - a well trained admin could probably close off at least 99% of these holes given enough time.
I think that we need to promote awareness of these issues to a much greater degree than it currently is.
Al.
Highly recommended.
Al.
Why can't we have an OS that looks like either, along the lines of the Java look-and-feel stuff.
Because that's not Linux and it's not stable.
Here's a question:
Does the community feel that the Linux UIs are as user-friendly as the commercial ones?
Al.
Al.
So what we need is a way to easily configure a machine as secured workstation with practically all services off... don't the Linux distro's have something like this already? Al.