You said you voted for both Gore and Kerry. If you are not a Democrat, you are at least supporting them by your voting record. When was the last time you didn't vote Democrat?
Anyways, the point is that we can't get rid of them* even if we catch them with bribe money in the freezer or a crack whore in the motel room. I'm actually reinforcing your point, but you appear to be too busy defending yourself from perceived slights on the internet to actually read a post.
*Or at least, the blind public who vote along party lines won't get rid of them.
I voted for Gore and Kerry because their opponent was clearly unqualified the first time and even more so the second time. That's not to say that either Gore or Kerry were any great shakes either, but were clearly the better choice over Dubya and Darth Cheney.
In any case, perhaps I did overreact a bit. My apologies. You're still welcome to come over and fuck my wife (if I had one). I really dislike many of the political choices I've had to make over the years, but until we have full public funding of elections (with free airtime for candidates) and zero contributions to candidates or parties (all monies for elections managed, disbursed and audited by an impartial NGO), we will continue to see this race to the bottom. It disgusts me.
Just to clarify, you raised my dander by suggesting that those thrice-damned corrupt scumbags (of both parties) feeding at the lobbyists trough were somehow affiliated with me. I take umbrage to that. Again, my apologies if I was rude.
Help me out here. What is the big difference between the two?
Why I prefer Obama:
Supports marriage equality (half-heartedly at least)
Ended "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
Recognizes that immigrants make this country a better place
Was willing to at least tackle health care reform, even if the result wasn't wonderful
Energy policy not as successful as GWB (probably the most successful policy* of GWB's administration)
Doesn't pander (as much) to his political base (unlike another presidential candidate I can think of) with downright dotty campaign rhetoric
[those are enough for me, but here's a less serious one]
Doesn't have a Sith lord for a VP as his predecessor did
I have plenty of issues with the Obama administration, with Congress (both houses) and with our corrupt political system. As my father used to say, "I treat politicians with the contempt they deserve."
*GWB Energy policy: Line the pockets of the energy companies
But we can't get rid of those folks . . . unless we catch them with cold cash in the freezer (a democrat)
Not to put too fine a point on it, but your party nominated William Jefferson in the 2008 primary after he was indicted. It took the Republicans and Independents and Others to kick him out in the general election, and even then by less than 3 points.
And Marion Berry (another democrat) while he was Mayor of DC, was caught smoking crack in a hotel room with a hooker. He was convicted, served his time and was then re-elected Mayor of DC. Your point?
Oh, and thank you so very much for telling me who my political party was. I didn't know. Seeing as you're so much more knowledgeable than I am about my thoughts and philosophy, why don't you come over to the house to play with my kids and fuck my wife too? Not my party, jackass. As has been pointed out many times, there's only one party -- the party beholden to the monied interests.
I wonder how far I can get with that jar of change on my fridge?
You still got it backwards, and just can't admit facts. And, for your further edification, It is the public that rewards corruption, cronyism and bad governance (usually for a perceived piece of the action) that is the problem. Until you make the first step, you are doomed to eternal suffering and angst.
Clearly I'm wearing the blinders of ignorance. Because the rivers of filthy lucre in our political system is clearly my fault. I regularly write to my representatives to make sure they're getting enough money from special interests. Especially those that hold positions that directly contradict my beliefs and notions of fairness and ethics.
Please enlighten me to those "facts" I can't admit. I am but a humble learner a your wizened feet, learned one! Please free me from the shackles of ignorance and the tyranny of self-deception.
Perhaps I misread section 5.2e when they were talking about the use of private communications. They can claim it's needed and just grab it. It's not like we don't have other examples of that happening with Eminent domain (for example)
"(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;"
It seems I'm not the only one who's reading this into the order
As has been pointed out several times, use != seizure. But you're right. This whole thing is a power grab. God forbid we should have our favorite TV show interrupted to have the evil government tell us that a tornado has touched down near our houses or that some wacko has released sarin into the subway system. No that just won't do. Power hungry scum! who the hell do they think they are?
So you are suggesting the government is all rainbows and bubbles when it comes to doing the right thing for our safety and interests. Thank goodness. I had it all wrong;-)
So EPIC had it wrong too. Glad to hear it. I guess next you're going to tell us you trust your politicians and the government would never do anything inappropriate.
Got it. Thanks for the clarify:-)
Don't put words in my mouth. In several posts just on this thread I made the point that it's stupid to be getting all up in arms about this when the government is doing so many illegal/unconstitutional/unethical things. Why not rail against a real issue, not some trumped up crap meant to make *planning* for government communications in emergency situations look like some sort of secret plot to nationalize the communications infrastructure. Sigh!
Which part exactly is that? I read the order *three* times and couldn't find what you claim is there. Are you lying or just reading the lie in TFS?
Perhaps I misread section 5.2e when they were talking about the use of private communications. They can claim it's needed and just grab it. It's not like we don't have other examples of that happening with Eminent domain (for example)
"(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;"
It seems I'm not the only one who's reading this into the order
As has been pointed out several times, use != seizure. But you're right. This whole thing is a power grab. God forbid we should have our favorite TV show interrupted to have the evil government tell us that a tornado has touched down near our houses or that some wacko has released sarin into the subway system. No that just won't do. Power hungry scum! who the hell do they think they are?
Nice fancy talk there, but it amounts to little more than fanboiism. I've been watching this back and forth since Eisenhower. The OP is correct. And we can get rid of them by voting for somebody else. But everybody's afraid to take a chance. We are the cause and solution to all our problems.
Fanboiism? Please. Read some of my other posts on this thread.
In any case, I did vote for somebody else. Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004. Look what that got me.
You are under the common delusion that we actually have a chance to affect our national government. Until we get the money sewer out of our political system, our strings are going to be pulled by the super-rich, big corporations and other moneyed interests. The saddest part is that those empowered to change the system are the folks who derive lots of benefit from it.
Government is not the problem. Corruption, cronyism and bad governance is the problem.
I don't know. 8 Years of GW Bush was proof enough for me.
How convenient of you to forget Lieberman and all the other democrats who backed him up. Nobody can do this alone. The population should take a good look in the mirror as their enablers. But noooooo...
I'm not letting those guys off the hook. the OP was saying that there was no proof that Obama would be better than Romney. I elucidated. All the other hangers on (Lieberman included) help fuck us over too. But we can't get rid of those folks (have you looked at the record of incumbent advantage for re-election in both houses of Congress?) unless we catch them with cold cash in the freezer (a democrat) or tapping toes in an airport bathroom with a cop (a republican).
In any case, your point is, while an interesting and valid one, wholly tangential to the topic at hand. Thanks for playing.
I personally think we have MORE religion than we need in this country. repubs think just the opposite.
on that, alone, I will never ever vote R. those scumbags would do whatever they can to make this an american taliban country.
no matter what the D's do, they are not hell bent (heh) on turning us into a 'christian nation'. again, that, alone, is enough to keep me from supporting any R. and once you get people who think they have a god connection giving them permission to fuck you, OH BOY will they fuck you (and I'm not just talking about catholics and little boys...)
The USA is so enormous, and so numerous are its schools, colleges and religious
seminaries, many devoted to special religious beliefs ranging from the
unorthodox to the dotty, that we can hardly wonder at its yielding a more
bounteous harvest of gobbledegook than the rest of the world put together.
-- Sir Peter Medawar
AFAICT, the order applies *only* to government operated communications infrastructure.
Then you should work on your reading comprehension. See, for one example, Section 5.2(e):
[The Secretary of Homeland Security shall] satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;
Perhaps you should work on yours. Several others (and in another post I wrote) have pointed out *exactly* what that means. But I imagine that you can't be bothered to get the facts. That would get in the way of your bias. I'd also point out again that I don't understand why you feel the need to make stuff up. The government is already doing plenty of objectionable things without your AC ass going along with made up shit. Why don't you start taking your meds?
It's JEWS who control your Congress, and JEWS who are behind this - and all so that they can prevent people like me from telling people like YOU that it's JEWS who are behind it all. Oh what a tangled web they weave, when first they practice to deceive...
Your country is not a democracy, it is ruled by unelected Jews who decide EVERYTHING that happens. They control your entire media, they control your government, they run the Federal Reserve and most of the fraudulent, fractional reserve banks, i.e. they print money from nothing and then YOU have to pay it back with REAL labour and REAL assets, and they get your children to fight their wars for 'precious' Israel.
Had enough yet? Why don't you mod me down, like you idiots usually do... Soon you won't need to- because your unelected Jewish 'masters' will have taken over the entire internet and deleted the word 'Jew' from every website that uses it...
[I know. Don't feed the trolls. But this amuses me.]
As a life-long member of the International Jewish Conspiracy (yes, my dues are paid up), I can tell you that the annual reports don't bear out your claims. It all goes back to Yuri Avram Fooliscz, the administrator of our vast conspiracy in the 1970s. We were well on our way to total world domination when Yuri read 'Dianetics" by L. Ron Hubbard. This convinced him (and that "Jews In Space" skit in "History of The World, Part I") that the best way to dominate the earth was from secret bases in the asteroid belt and a command and control center at a LaGrange point on the far side of the sun. Unfortunately, our Judo-nauts kept getting their peyas caught in the equipment on our spacecraft and this never really happened.
Ever since then, we've been wasting our power, money and influence to make this happen. So, instead of getting fat quarterly checks and a smug sense of self importance from ruling the world, all I get is a dreidel at Chanukkah. Sigh.
The first thing that came to mind was a classic Cold War movie called Seven Days in May (1964). There was a shadowy group within the Pentagon called ECOMCON. Watched the movie and see if any parallels jump out at you.
A great movie. Kirk Douglas is fabulous in that one. But I don't see any parallels.
The movie details a *secret* military coup plot in the US, with the military seizing the communications infrastructure through subterfuge during a military preparedness mobilization. How does preparing a report on how to make government communications more secure and survivable compare? Not at all IMHO.
The only parallel I really see is a group of right wing crazies trying to force the president out of office because they don't like his policies.
(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;
How is that not "seizing" private resources?
First off, the government has *always* had the ability to pre-empt communications in the event of an emergency. Have you ever heard of "The Emergency Broadcast System?" This is nothing new. The order says nothing about seizing or shutting down communications. It talks about being able to marshal resources in the case of an interruption in government communications. Have you taken your halo-peridol today?
You forgot to quote the part where they are empowered to seize civilian facilities. I'm guessing that was just an oversight or you didn't want to mention it. Whatever the reason. That sent a chill in the air. Sounds a lot LIKE other countries during THEIR instances of 'maintaining the integrity of the communication network' doesn't it.
Which part exactly is that? I read the order *three* times and couldn't find what you claim is there. Are you lying or just reading the lie in TFS?
has also granted the Department the authority to seize private facilities when necessary, effectively shutting down or limiting civilian communications
When the U.S. President does it, it's to make your kids safer.
I just re-read section 5.2 (which deals with DHS) for the *third* time. I don't see that anywhere in the order. This is astroturfing, and not a very good example of it either.
Geez! The US government is already doing enough stupid/illegal/unethical things already. No need to fake up any more. Unless, of course, the goal is to discredit the Obama administration in advance of the election. I mean, it's one thing to say the the gov't is spying on *everyone*, killing civilians, wiping their asses with the bill of rights, etc, etc, etc. The problem is that this is nothing new -- the Republicans are just as guilty of all of these things as are the Democrats.
Because I'm not cranky or old, but the forefathers would've absolutely despised a measure such as this. It's more or less a Quartering Act on the communication network, giving them the right to seize for their own purposes in the state of an emergency.
Um, did you actually bother to read the Executive Order? Or did you just rely on the misleading summary? Then again, why let facts get in the way of a good mad, eh?
The US government (and especially the Executive Branch) has been doing unconstitutional things for a long time. On the whole, I find it disheartening and an affront to the ideals this nation was founded upon. In this case, it's not really anything other than an administrative board to review and recommend changes in the government's emergency preparedness. Perhaps it's a waste of money and resources, but it's not some master plan to nationalize all communications. I'm not sure why they would bother anyway -- they can (and likely do) already monitor all our communications and have an impressive stranglehold on the press. What more do they need?
This is just one of your standard election year misrepresentations designed to rile up the Republican base. Nothing to see here.
When someone else posted it in a different forum. I read it again just now in case I missed something.
AFAICT, the order applies *only* to government operated communications infrastructure. I'm not sure, but I think it's within the Executive Branch's purview to manage and harden the communications infrastructure *that it already controls* It is the *Executive* branch after all? Who is supposed to do this? The Judicial branch?
You guys need to go outside and get some fresh air or something. Or maybe stop drinking so much coffee.
The question may sound a bit naive, but what is a court order other than a form of routine rubberstamping by some low paid pot-bellied DMV style clerk?
That your co-workers aren't very motivated to do their jobs. I'm old enough to be your father and I'm constantly learning. Intellectual curiosity is not an age-related thing.
That said, it doesn't necessarily mean that your co-workers are intellectually lazy. They may well just not care. Do you work for a company that treats its people poorly? Are people not rewarded for their good work? Do people just do the minimum to collect a paycheck and not get fired? All of those are usually symptoms of crappy management. If that's the case, get a couple more years experience there and then find a better environment for yourself.
People who enjoy (or who are at least recognized for it) their work generally tend to have the attitude that "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing properly."
Don't live by their example, young paduan.:) When I was just a little older than you, a mentor gave me the best advice I've ever received: "Although you may not be required to do so, you should be willing to bet your job on the work that you do." That concept has served me very well in the more than twenty years I've been in the IT business.
Maybe some very technical people don't trust spam email headers to be true, let alone TEXT IN THE SPAM BODY.
Huh? Yeah. You mean guys like me. That was my point. By looking at the email headers you can (usually) get a pretty good idea about the source of the email.
Just to make sure your reading comprehension is at least third grade, I'll repeat myself:
It Shouldn't Be Too Hard To Verify Or to disprove the claim if we can look at the mail headers
Was there something in there you didn't understand? I hope you're an ESL person.
Or to disprove the claim if we can look at the mail headers. Especially if we have multiple samples.
The claim, on its face, is plausible. However if you're a spammer, you want to send out as many emails as quickly as you can. Sending emails via a wireless device (either WiFi or cellular) seems like wasted effort when there are so many cable/dsl/fiber connected PCs (running whatever OS, but usually Windows) out there that can send many more spam emails in the same amount of time -- Usually without alerting non-technical users who don't review their router/firewall logs often, if ever.
All that said, I suppose it's possible. It just seems a little strange that this should come out of Microsoft -- especially since there are many very technical people out there who are rolling their own Android -- you'd think they'd have found it first.
Exactly. It's as if MS' management are deliberately trying to prevent anyone from actually having an all-star team. They're also completely failing to understand that psychologically, for most people rewarding top performers will produce better results than punishing low performers, even though if you look at it as a math equation, they can be identical.
This stupid way of managing people is one of the main reasons I would never in a million years work at Microsoft, or other companies that use similar methods (Amazon, etc.).
I've been reading these critiques of "stack ranking" and, as a former MS employee, I understand why MS does "stack ranking" even though it's ultimately detrimental to the organization. Microsoft is a sales focused organization, not a technology focused one. When managing sales people, you want to keep the highest performers happy (and selling as much as possible). Nothing motivates a salesman more than knowing that if they don't produce, out the door they go.
Since Microsoft has always been run by salespeople (Billy G. included and Ballmer is the quintessential salesjerk), it makes sense that they should use sales management techniques within the organization. the problem, of course, is that just because you're not one of the top developers on a dev team, it doesn't mean that you suck. It means that you have colleagues that you can learn from and improve your skills -- potentially making a good developer a great developer.
Stack ranking is a piss-poor way to evaluate development groups. It has also created an atmosphere at MS where personal relationships are more important than performance. It has also created an environment where being seen as being involved in "the next big thing(TM)" causes employees to ride the waves of high-profile projects and then jump ship when their visibility is reduced. I saw so many good ideas die while I was at MS just because something newer and shinier appeared and those upwardly mobile types just dropped the ball without looking back. It was kind of sad to watch, actually.
That's why I build my own from a very basic Debian install. Since most of the routers out there are just embedded Linux boxes using iptables, why would I pay for what I can build for free. If I'm looking for high capacity stuff like Cisco's real offerings, I doubt I'll be running up against his problem anyways.
I've been running a similar (Fedora based) setup on a low-end box since 1996. First with ipchains and now with iptables. It works like a champ and I can configure it as I like without interference from vendors.
What's even better (at least for the less technical) is that there are a number of Live CDs that provide similar functionality *and* they have easy to use GUI configuration tools.
However, the TFA says that Cisco has backed off of their power grab. I guess we'll see if they try it again
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Wow... sensitive much?
You said you voted for both Gore and Kerry. If you are not a Democrat, you are at least supporting them by your voting record. When was the last time you didn't vote Democrat?
Anyways, the point is that we can't get rid of them* even if we catch them with bribe money in the freezer or a crack whore in the motel room. I'm actually reinforcing your point, but you appear to be too busy defending yourself from perceived slights on the internet to actually read a post.
*Or at least, the blind public who vote along party lines won't get rid of them.
I voted for Gore and Kerry because their opponent was clearly unqualified the first time and even more so the second time. That's not to say that either Gore or Kerry were any great shakes either, but were clearly the better choice over Dubya and Darth Cheney.
In any case, perhaps I did overreact a bit. My apologies. You're still welcome to come over and fuck my wife (if I had one). I really dislike many of the political choices I've had to make over the years, but until we have full public funding of elections (with free airtime for candidates) and zero contributions to candidates or parties (all monies for elections managed, disbursed and audited by an impartial NGO), we will continue to see this race to the bottom. It disgusts me.
Just to clarify, you raised my dander by suggesting that those thrice-damned corrupt scumbags (of both parties) feeding at the lobbyists trough were somehow affiliated with me. I take umbrage to that. Again, my apologies if I was rude.
Help me out here. What is the big difference between the two?
Why I prefer Obama:
Supports marriage equality (half-heartedly at least)
Ended "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
Recognizes that immigrants make this country a better place
Was willing to at least tackle health care reform, even if the result wasn't wonderful
Energy policy not as successful as GWB (probably the most successful policy* of GWB's administration)
Doesn't pander (as much) to his political base (unlike another presidential candidate I can think of) with downright dotty campaign rhetoric
[those are enough for me, but here's a less serious one]
Doesn't have a Sith lord for a VP as his predecessor did
I have plenty of issues with the Obama administration, with Congress (both houses) and with our corrupt political system. As my father used to say, "I treat politicians with the contempt they deserve."
*GWB Energy policy: Line the pockets of the energy companies
But we can't get rid of those folks . . . unless we catch them with cold cash in the freezer (a democrat)
Not to put too fine a point on it, but your party nominated William Jefferson in the 2008 primary after he was indicted. It took the Republicans and Independents and Others to kick him out in the general election, and even then by less than 3 points.
And Marion Berry (another democrat) while he was Mayor of DC, was caught smoking crack in a hotel room with a hooker. He was convicted, served his time and was then re-elected Mayor of DC. Your point?
Oh, and thank you so very much for telling me who my political party was. I didn't know. Seeing as you're so much more knowledgeable than I am about my thoughts and philosophy, why don't you come over to the house to play with my kids and fuck my wife too? Not my party, jackass. As has been pointed out many times, there's only one party -- the party beholden to the monied interests.
I wonder how far I can get with that jar of change on my fridge?
You still got it backwards, and just can't admit facts. And, for your further edification, It is the public that rewards corruption, cronyism and bad governance (usually for a perceived piece of the action) that is the problem. Until you make the first step, you are doomed to eternal suffering and angst.
Clearly I'm wearing the blinders of ignorance. Because the rivers of filthy lucre in our political system is clearly my fault. I regularly write to my representatives to make sure they're getting enough money from special interests. Especially those that hold positions that directly contradict my beliefs and notions of fairness and ethics.
Please enlighten me to those "facts" I can't admit. I am but a humble learner a your wizened feet, learned one! Please free me from the shackles of ignorance and the tyranny of self-deception.
Perhaps I misread section 5.2e when they were talking about the use of private communications. They can claim it's needed and just grab it. It's not like we don't have other examples of that happening with Eminent domain (for example)
"(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;"
It seems I'm not the only one who's reading this into the order
http://epic.org/2012/07/executive-order-grants-authori.html
As has been pointed out several times, use != seizure. But you're right. This whole thing is a power grab. God forbid we should have our favorite TV show interrupted to have the evil government tell us that a tornado has touched down near our houses or that some wacko has released sarin into the subway system. No that just won't do. Power hungry scum! who the hell do they think they are?
So you are suggesting the government is all rainbows and bubbles when it comes to doing the right thing for our safety and interests. Thank goodness. I had it all wrong ;-)
So EPIC had it wrong too. Glad to hear it. I guess next you're going to tell us you trust your politicians and the government would never do anything inappropriate.
Got it. Thanks for the clarify :-)
Don't put words in my mouth. In several posts just on this thread I made the point that it's stupid to be getting all up in arms about this when the government is doing so many illegal/unconstitutional/unethical things. Why not rail against a real issue, not some trumped up crap meant to make *planning* for government communications in emergency situations look like some sort of secret plot to nationalize the communications infrastructure. Sigh!
Which part exactly is that? I read the order *three* times and couldn't find what you claim is there. Are you lying or just reading the lie in TFS?
Perhaps I misread section 5.2e when they were talking about the use of private communications. They can claim it's needed and just grab it. It's not like we don't have other examples of that happening with Eminent domain (for example)
"(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;"
It seems I'm not the only one who's reading this into the order
http://epic.org/2012/07/executive-order-grants-authori.html
As has been pointed out several times, use != seizure. But you're right. This whole thing is a power grab. God forbid we should have our favorite TV show interrupted to have the evil government tell us that a tornado has touched down near our houses or that some wacko has released sarin into the subway system. No that just won't do. Power hungry scum! who the hell do they think they are?
Nice fancy talk there, but it amounts to little more than fanboiism. I've been watching this back and forth since Eisenhower. The OP is correct. And we can get rid of them by voting for somebody else. But everybody's afraid to take a chance. We are the cause and solution to all our problems.
Fanboiism? Please. Read some of my other posts on this thread.
In any case, I did vote for somebody else. Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004. Look what that got me.
You are under the common delusion that we actually have a chance to affect our national government. Until we get the money sewer out of our political system, our strings are going to be pulled by the super-rich, big corporations and other moneyed interests. The saddest part is that those empowered to change the system are the folks who derive lots of benefit from it.
Government is not the problem. Corruption, cronyism and bad governance is the problem.
Oh, and I've got your fanboi right here, bud.
I don't know. 8 Years of GW Bush was proof enough for me.
How convenient of you to forget Lieberman and all the other democrats who backed him up. Nobody can do this alone. The population should take a good look in the mirror as their enablers. But noooooo...
I'm not letting those guys off the hook. the OP was saying that there was no proof that Obama would be better than Romney. I elucidated. All the other hangers on (Lieberman included) help fuck us over too. But we can't get rid of those folks (have you looked at the record of incumbent advantage for re-election in both houses of Congress?) unless we catch them with cold cash in the freezer (a democrat) or tapping toes in an airport bathroom with a cop (a republican).
In any case, your point is, while an interesting and valid one, wholly tangential to the topic at hand. Thanks for playing.
as bad as O is, it would be worse with republicans in charge. I truly do believe that.
That is quite a strong belief system you have with no solid proof to back it up.
I personally think we have MORE religion than we need in this country.
Hmmmm.....
I don't know. 8 Years of GW Bush was proof enough for me.
I personally think we have MORE religion than we need in this country. repubs think just the opposite.
on that, alone, I will never ever vote R. those scumbags would do whatever they can to make this an american taliban country.
no matter what the D's do, they are not hell bent (heh) on turning us into a 'christian nation'. again, that, alone, is enough to keep me from supporting any R. and once you get people who think they have a god connection giving them permission to fuck you, OH BOY will they fuck you (and I'm not just talking about catholics and little boys...)
The USA is so enormous, and so numerous are its schools, colleges and religious seminaries, many devoted to special religious beliefs ranging from the unorthodox to the dotty, that we can hardly wonder at its yielding a more bounteous harvest of gobbledegook than the rest of the world put together.
-- Sir Peter Medawar
AFAICT, the order applies *only* to government operated communications infrastructure.
Then you should work on your reading comprehension. See, for one example, Section 5.2(e):
[The Secretary of Homeland Security shall] satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;
Perhaps you should work on yours. Several others (and in another post I wrote) have pointed out *exactly* what that means. But I imagine that you can't be bothered to get the facts. That would get in the way of your bias. I'd also point out again that I don't understand why you feel the need to make stuff up. The government is already doing plenty of objectionable things without your AC ass going along with made up shit. Why don't you start taking your meds?
It's JEWS who control your Congress, and JEWS who are behind this - and all so that they can prevent people like me from telling people like YOU that it's JEWS who are behind it all. Oh what a tangled web they weave, when first they practice to deceive...
Your country is not a democracy, it is ruled by unelected Jews who decide EVERYTHING that happens. They control your entire media, they control your government, they run the Federal Reserve and most of the fraudulent, fractional reserve banks, i.e. they print money from nothing and then YOU have to pay it back with REAL labour and REAL assets, and they get your children to fight their wars for 'precious' Israel.
Had enough yet? Why don't you mod me down, like you idiots usually do... Soon you won't need to- because your unelected Jewish 'masters' will have taken over the entire internet and deleted the word 'Jew' from every website that uses it...
[I know. Don't feed the trolls. But this amuses me.]
As a life-long member of the International Jewish Conspiracy (yes, my dues are paid up), I can tell you that the annual reports don't bear out your claims. It all goes back to Yuri Avram Fooliscz, the administrator of our vast conspiracy in the 1970s. We were well on our way to total world domination when Yuri read 'Dianetics" by L. Ron Hubbard. This convinced him (and that "Jews In Space" skit in "History of The World, Part I") that the best way to dominate the earth was from secret bases in the asteroid belt and a command and control center at a LaGrange point on the far side of the sun. Unfortunately, our Judo-nauts kept getting their peyas caught in the equipment on our spacecraft and this never really happened.
Ever since then, we've been wasting our power, money and influence to make this happen. So, instead of getting fat quarterly checks and a smug sense of self importance from ruling the world, all I get is a dreidel at Chanukkah. Sigh.
The first thing that came to mind was a classic Cold War movie called Seven Days in May (1964). There was a shadowy group within the Pentagon called ECOMCON. Watched the movie and see if any parallels jump out at you.
A great movie. Kirk Douglas is fabulous in that one. But I don't see any parallels.
The movie details a *secret* military coup plot in the US, with the military seizing the communications infrastructure through subterfuge during a military preparedness mobilization. How does preparing a report on how to make government communications more secure and survivable compare? Not at all IMHO.
The only parallel I really see is a group of right wing crazies trying to force the president out of office because they don't like his policies.
This.
I just like to piss off the guy who gets annoyed when people use "This" ;-)
Better to be pissed off than pissed on, no? Unless you're into that kind of thing of course. :)
Go ahead. Mod me offtopic. I just couldn't resist.
(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate; How is that not "seizing" private resources?
First off, the government has *always* had the ability to pre-empt communications in the event of an emergency. Have you ever heard of "The Emergency Broadcast System?" This is nothing new. The order says nothing about seizing or shutting down communications. It talks about being able to marshal resources in the case of an interruption in government communications. Have you taken your halo-peridol today?
You forgot to quote the part where they are empowered to seize civilian facilities. I'm guessing that was just an oversight or you didn't want to mention it. Whatever the reason. That sent a chill in the air. Sounds a lot LIKE other countries during THEIR instances of 'maintaining the integrity of the communication network' doesn't it.
Which part exactly is that? I read the order *three* times and couldn't find what you claim is there. Are you lying or just reading the lie in TFS?
has also granted the Department the authority to seize private facilities when necessary, effectively shutting down or limiting civilian communications
When the U.S. President does it, it's to make your kids safer.
I just re-read section 5.2 (which deals with DHS) for the *third* time. I don't see that anywhere in the order. This is astroturfing, and not a very good example of it either.
Geez! The US government is already doing enough stupid/illegal/unethical things already. No need to fake up any more. Unless, of course, the goal is to discredit the Obama administration in advance of the election. I mean, it's one thing to say the the gov't is spying on *everyone*, killing civilians, wiping their asses with the bill of rights, etc, etc, etc. The problem is that this is nothing new -- the Republicans are just as guilty of all of these things as are the Democrats.
Whatever. Trolls are gonna troll.
Because I'm not cranky or old, but the forefathers would've absolutely despised a measure such as this. It's more or less a Quartering Act on the communication network, giving them the right to seize for their own purposes in the state of an emergency.
Um, did you actually bother to read the Executive Order? Or did you just rely on the misleading summary? Then again, why let facts get in the way of a good mad, eh?
The US government (and especially the Executive Branch) has been doing unconstitutional things for a long time. On the whole, I find it disheartening and an affront to the ideals this nation was founded upon. In this case, it's not really anything other than an administrative board to review and recommend changes in the government's emergency preparedness. Perhaps it's a waste of money and resources, but it's not some master plan to nationalize all communications. I'm not sure why they would bother anyway -- they can (and likely do) already monitor all our communications and have an impressive stranglehold on the press. What more do they need?
This is just one of your standard election year misrepresentations designed to rile up the Republican base. Nothing to see here.
When someone else posted it in a different forum. I read it again just now in case I missed something.
AFAICT, the order applies *only* to government operated communications infrastructure. I'm not sure, but I think it's within the Executive Branch's purview to manage and harden the communications infrastructure *that it already controls* It is the *Executive* branch after all? Who is supposed to do this? The Judicial branch?
You guys need to go outside and get some fresh air or something. Or maybe stop drinking so much coffee.
The question may sound a bit naive, but what is a court order other than a form of routine rubberstamping by some low paid pot-bellied DMV style clerk?
Not exactly
Very good. You got me to do your googling for you -- lazy bastard!
That your co-workers aren't very motivated to do their jobs. I'm old enough to be your father and I'm constantly learning. Intellectual curiosity is not an age-related thing.
That said, it doesn't necessarily mean that your co-workers are intellectually lazy. They may well just not care. Do you work for a company that treats its people poorly? Are people not rewarded for their good work? Do people just do the minimum to collect a paycheck and not get fired? All of those are usually symptoms of crappy management. If that's the case, get a couple more years experience there and then find a better environment for yourself.
People who enjoy (or who are at least recognized for it) their work generally tend to have the attitude that "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing properly."
Don't live by their example, young paduan. :) When I was just a little older than you, a mentor gave me the best advice I've ever received: "Although you may not be required to do so, you should be willing to bet your job on the work that you do." That concept has served me very well in the more than twenty years I've been in the IT business.
Maybe some very technical people don't trust spam email headers to be true, let alone TEXT IN THE SPAM BODY.
Huh? Yeah. You mean guys like me. That was my point. By looking at the email headers you can (usually) get a pretty good idea about the source of the email.
Just to make sure your reading comprehension is at least third grade, I'll repeat myself:
It Shouldn't Be Too Hard To Verify Or to disprove the claim if we can look at the mail headers
Was there something in there you didn't understand? I hope you're an ESL person.
Or to disprove the claim if we can look at the mail headers. Especially if we have multiple samples.
The claim, on its face, is plausible. However if you're a spammer, you want to send out as many emails as quickly as you can. Sending emails via a wireless device (either WiFi or cellular) seems like wasted effort when there are so many cable/dsl/fiber connected PCs (running whatever OS, but usually Windows) out there that can send many more spam emails in the same amount of time -- Usually without alerting non-technical users who don't review their router/firewall logs often, if ever.
All that said, I suppose it's possible. It just seems a little strange that this should come out of Microsoft -- especially since there are many very technical people out there who are rolling their own Android -- you'd think they'd have found it first.
Exactly. It's as if MS' management are deliberately trying to prevent anyone from actually having an all-star team. They're also completely failing to understand that psychologically, for most people rewarding top performers will produce better results than punishing low performers, even though if you look at it as a math equation, they can be identical.
This stupid way of managing people is one of the main reasons I would never in a million years work at Microsoft, or other companies that use similar methods (Amazon, etc.).
I've been reading these critiques of "stack ranking" and, as a former MS employee, I understand why MS does "stack ranking" even though it's ultimately detrimental to the organization. Microsoft is a sales focused organization, not a technology focused one. When managing sales people, you want to keep the highest performers happy (and selling as much as possible). Nothing motivates a salesman more than knowing that if they don't produce, out the door they go.
Since Microsoft has always been run by salespeople (Billy G. included and Ballmer is the quintessential salesjerk), it makes sense that they should use sales management techniques within the organization. the problem, of course, is that just because you're not one of the top developers on a dev team, it doesn't mean that you suck. It means that you have colleagues that you can learn from and improve your skills -- potentially making a good developer a great developer.
Stack ranking is a piss-poor way to evaluate development groups. It has also created an atmosphere at MS where personal relationships are more important than performance. It has also created an environment where being seen as being involved in "the next big thing(TM)" causes employees to ride the waves of high-profile projects and then jump ship when their visibility is reduced. I saw so many good ideas die while I was at MS just because something newer and shinier appeared and those upwardly mobile types just dropped the ball without looking back. It was kind of sad to watch, actually.
That's why I build my own from a very basic Debian install. Since most of the routers out there are just embedded Linux boxes using iptables, why would I pay for what I can build for free. If I'm looking for high capacity stuff like Cisco's real offerings, I doubt I'll be running up against his problem anyways.
I've been running a similar (Fedora based) setup on a low-end box since 1996. First with ipchains and now with iptables. It works like a champ and I can configure it as I like without interference from vendors.
What's even better (at least for the less technical) is that there are a number of Live CDs that provide similar functionality *and* they have easy to use GUI configuration tools.
However, the TFA says that Cisco has backed off of their power grab. I guess we'll see if they try it again