I'm a member of the Cornell team. I've decided not to post our site, knowing that it would receive a brutal Slashdotting, but here are a couple of the off-site press releases.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041216/sfth012_1.htm l http://www.cornellsun.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2 005/03/02/42255e9b352d0 http://www.cornellsun.com/vn ews/display.v/ART/2005/02/24/421d88d386293 http://www.automotive.com/ne ws/25/7487/
I'm not saying don't look at the US... but cripes, I'm very inumpressed when someone will seriously bark at me about how China is a better world citizen than the US. Somehow, between North Korea, China, India, Egypt, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, France, Germany... we end up in a thread, on a post about how Australia let us extradite one of their citizens, blaming the US.
For goodness sake, it was Australia's job to protect the guy. It's not like Australia wouldn't have processed an extradition request.
While we're at it, Bush might not be the world's greatest President, but he's taking the windfall for us having not found WMDs. Lets quit this bull. Congress had their hand in this war. To vote for the war, then turn your back when it's unpopular, and blame the President. That's pretty lame. To then go and say "the President tricked us!" That's worse. That's saying that the Presidency has much more power than it does. The Hill saw the intelligence. Bush didn't just put it together for them. That's not how this stuff works.
If you really want to look and see what's putting our reputation in the toilet, it's people on the Hill trying to get re-elected dragging the our country through the mud. Stop it. You're going to start another war trying to get re-elected. Fess up to your actions.
I do get sick of reading about how lousy all Americans are.
I get tired of reading how we're all braindead.
I don't care much for being told that because I'm male, I'm sexist either.
What I would like, in short, is to just be left alone. I hold the door open whether you're a guy or a girl. I've never told a woman she can't enter computer science. I voted for Badnarick. I have nothing to do with Bush's presence in the White House. Kerry wouldn't do a much better job either though. I'm a well educated person. I'm not a red neck, though you should think about that term before using it to describe someone.
I just read a LOT of posts saying how bad I was because I'm male. I've walked into another thread of reading how bad I am because I'm American. I'm not supposed to defend myself. That's not politically correct. I get to let you run over me, and with luck, I'll die as a result.
What can I say? What am I supposed to say? Should I just fall off the face of the earth because I was born in a place that isn't popular at the moment? Am I supposed to join those stupid sounding people who insult their own country
Would that make me look smart? "Look at me, I'm an American, I must be a total ass?"
In the days after 9/11, I read on K5 more sickeningly anti-American posts than I care to mention. People posted stories saying that my country got what we deserved. Other people decried the praise that NY police were getting because they were, "the sworn enemy of the black man." I was angry. I posted counter remarks then.
How am I supposed to react? What am I supposed to do to make you happy?
In the years since, I've watched stories on TV asking why the muslims hate us. To say that they have a nazi-esque hatred of the US isn't politically correct. After all, we'd be marginalizing their voice. No, it's us. We suck. Us, with our televisions and computers and capitalism and sex. Oh, no, it's because of the first Iraq war. Bin Laden never would have attacked if not for that.
What is it that you want me to do that would rectify my status? How can I possibly not be part of this group that is to be effaced from the Earth?
It's not that computer crime is lesser, it's that it's treated as greater.
Do you really equate this act to shooting kiddie porn or murder? There are war criminals who get away by hiding in foreign countries. The US picked up flack for invading Afghanistan to track down Usama Bin Laden, but picking up a copyright violator is a-ok?
Ok, before/. gets all in an uproar. Lets go ahead and explain this.
This is marketspeak. Marketspeak is nonsense. There is no such thing as well thought out marketspeak.
I'm sure that when the programmers heard this idea, they sat in a room and just collectively went "duh?!?" to themselves, then realized that marketting execs get paid more than they do, and laughed about it later around the water cooler.
Quit telling me how much my country sucks. If you hate us that much, find a/. in France. Go on, boycott/.
After all, they're an American company with revenues going into the US paid for by banner ads for mostly American companies./. would have to be included in such a boycott.
2) Is this really true... or is this just something we're told?
I mean, I look older than I am, and when I was in college, I heard all sorts of girls tell me that they were only interested in older guys because of a gap in maturity... of course, they were talking to me, and I wasn't older, they just thought I was.
So, is this real, or percieved? Am I just much more mature than my male peers?
Then take into account the high school freshman who only wants to date guys over 18... this doesn't seem like a "mature" decision.
This sounds like she doesn't know what an 18 year old guy is looking for in a relationship. I haven't had a relationship since high school where I didn't have sex with the girl, are high school freshman females really thinking in these terms? I never got that impression when I was in high school, or from talking to high school girls.
I've in fact had several girls say what gentlemen their bfs in college were... when I knew that their bfs were frustrated that their gfs had not "put out" yet.
Is there some real psychology behind this, or is this just pop psychobull.
Come now, is it any more fair to say "men are juvenile," than it is to say "women are useless in the IT industry?"
Why is it ok to make a blanket statement like that as long as it's about men? I don't behave that way, so why should I have to put up with that sort of talk any more than a woman should have to put up with the latter statement?
It's good to see that without any empirical study performed, we can always return to the lowest common demoninator of saying that men are swine, and that's why women are leaving an industry that was nearly 50% women at one point.
Women wouldn't have been leaving a nearly sexually balanced industry because of the attitudes of men, unless there were a tertiary factor (ie, all of the positions of power were held by men).
Also, please don't follow up with a post saying that all of the positions of power were held by men without some substantiating evidence. Put a link with a stat in it or something.
According to the article, women made up 41% of the I.T workforce in 1996.
No, that can't be true. Women are afraid to enter IT, that's why we have school programs encouraging them into IT, which is clearly a male dominated field.
While I find your comment funny, just once, I'd like to go about reading a web site without hearing what a bunch of retards my countrymen are.
*Looks around*
It sure looks like plenty of foreign nationals chose to attend Cornell. You'd think that they would avoid my country altogether as far as education is concerned, if Americans were really that stupid. While I'm glad to have them in my presence, it is a bit disheartening to turn on the radio, and hear yet another disparaging remark about my country. Their presence here is a counterexample to the argument that all American's are severely retarded. If you disbelieve me, ask a student from outside the US what the "brain drain" is.
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Where do you live that you can hurl stones from?
I'm not saying that I won't take any responsibility, though all of that was before I could vote.
I will say that coming onto a messasge board and calling all of my countrymen asses is taking it a bit far.
I'm a member of the Cornell team. I've decided not to post our site, knowing that it would receive a brutal Slashdotting, but here are a couple of the off-site press releases.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041216/sfth012_1.ht
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People focus on the US.
Look at China.
I'm not saying don't look at the US... but cripes, I'm very inumpressed when someone will seriously bark at me about how China is a better world citizen than the US. Somehow, between North Korea, China, India, Egypt, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, France, Germany... we end up in a thread, on a post about how Australia let us extradite one of their citizens, blaming the US.
For goodness sake, it was Australia's job to protect the guy. It's not like Australia wouldn't have processed an extradition request.
While we're at it, Bush might not be the world's greatest President, but he's taking the windfall for us having not found WMDs. Lets quit this bull. Congress had their hand in this war. To vote for the war, then turn your back when it's unpopular, and blame the President. That's pretty lame. To then go and say "the President tricked us!" That's worse. That's saying that the Presidency has much more power than it does. The Hill saw the intelligence. Bush didn't just put it together for them. That's not how this stuff works.
If you really want to look and see what's putting our reputation in the toilet, it's people on the Hill trying to get re-elected dragging the our country through the mud. Stop it. You're going to start another war trying to get re-elected. Fess up to your actions.
Ok, so, aren't you supposed to be boycotting /. instead of pumping funds into my evil country?
You know, we're all coming to get you.
I still think that Hitler was worse... even if few people protested him.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're kidding right?
Yeah, protect the world from the dangerous Americans by investing in a nice peaceful neutral world citizen like *cough* China.
Good thing too. That would protect the Aussie's whose government hands them over to whoever asks for whatever reason.
Australia won't protect its citizens...
Stop America.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Another response.
I perhaps overreacted earlier.
I don't particularly care for GW.
I do get sick of reading about how lousy all Americans are.
I get tired of reading how we're all braindead.
I don't care much for being told that because I'm male, I'm sexist either.
What I would like, in short, is to just be left alone. I hold the door open whether you're a guy or a girl. I've never told a woman she can't enter computer science. I voted for Badnarick. I have nothing to do with Bush's presence in the White House. Kerry wouldn't do a much better job either though. I'm a well educated person. I'm not a red neck, though you should think about that term before using it to describe someone.
I just read a LOT of posts saying how bad I was because I'm male. I've walked into another thread of reading how bad I am because I'm American. I'm not supposed to defend myself. That's not politically correct. I get to let you run over me, and with luck, I'll die as a result.
What can I say? What am I supposed to say? Should I just fall off the face of the earth because I was born in a place that isn't popular at the moment? Am I supposed to join those stupid sounding people who insult their own country
Would that make me look smart? "Look at me, I'm an American, I must be a total ass?"
In the days after 9/11, I read on K5 more sickeningly anti-American posts than I care to mention. People posted stories saying that my country got what we deserved. Other people decried the praise that NY police were getting because they were, "the sworn enemy of the black man." I was angry. I posted counter remarks then.
How am I supposed to react? What am I supposed to do to make you happy?
In the years since, I've watched stories on TV asking why the muslims hate us. To say that they have a nazi-esque hatred of the US isn't politically correct. After all, we'd be marginalizing their voice. No, it's us. We suck. Us, with our televisions and computers and capitalism and sex. Oh, no, it's because of the first Iraq war. Bin Laden never would have attacked if not for that.
What is it that you want me to do that would rectify my status? How can I possibly not be part of this group that is to be effaced from the Earth?
Or is it perhaps, really not my fault afterall?
I don't have any problem with disliking the war in Iraq. I have a problem with just calling us all braindead morons.
I retreated to academia for graduate school, after working a few years as a programmer.
Please tell me on my American message board how much America sucks again.
It's not that computer crime is lesser, it's that it's treated as greater.
Do you really equate this act to shooting kiddie porn or murder? There are war criminals who get away by hiding in foreign countries. The US picked up flack for invading Afghanistan to track down Usama Bin Laden, but picking up a copyright violator is a-ok?
Ok, before /. gets all in an uproar. Lets go ahead and explain this.
This is marketspeak. Marketspeak is nonsense. There is no such thing as well thought out marketspeak.
I'm sure that when the programmers heard this idea, they sat in a room and just collectively went "duh?!?" to themselves, then realized that marketting execs get paid more than they do, and laughed about it later around the water cooler.
Quit telling me how much my country sucks. If you hate us that much, find a /. in France. Go on, boycott /.
/. would have to be included in such a boycott.
After all, they're an American company with revenues going into the US paid for by banner ads for mostly American companies.
Come on, I dare you.
Can you please tell me how much my country sucks again?
I mean, Australia gave the guy to us, but we're the bad guys here?
Come on, Australia would send us an extradition request too, it's just that we wouldn't grant it.
You're equating a copyright violation to an act of war.
You work for the RIAA/MPAA/BSA right?
2) Is this really true... or is this just something we're told?
I mean, I look older than I am, and when I was in college, I heard all sorts of girls tell me that they were only interested in older guys because of a gap in maturity... of course, they were talking to me, and I wasn't older, they just thought I was.
So, is this real, or percieved? Am I just much more mature than my male peers?
Then take into account the high school freshman who only wants to date guys over 18... this doesn't seem like a "mature" decision.
This sounds like she doesn't know what an 18 year old guy is looking for in a relationship. I haven't had a relationship since high school where I didn't have sex with the girl, are high school freshman females really thinking in these terms? I never got that impression when I was in high school, or from talking to high school girls.
I've in fact had several girls say what gentlemen their bfs in college were... when I knew that their bfs were frustrated that their gfs had not "put out" yet.
Is there some real psychology behind this, or is this just pop psychobull.
Come now, is it any more fair to say "men are juvenile," than it is to say "women are useless in the IT industry?"
Why is it ok to make a blanket statement like that as long as it's about men? I don't behave that way, so why should I have to put up with that sort of talk any more than a woman should have to put up with the latter statement?
*sigh*
It's good to see that without any empirical study performed, we can always return to the lowest common demoninator of saying that men are swine, and that's why women are leaving an industry that was nearly 50% women at one point.
Women wouldn't have been leaving a nearly sexually balanced industry because of the attitudes of men, unless there were a tertiary factor (ie, all of the positions of power were held by men).
Also, please don't follow up with a post saying that all of the positions of power were held by men without some substantiating evidence. Put a link with a stat in it or something.
According to the article, women made up 41% of the I.T workforce in 1996.
No, that can't be true. Women are afraid to enter IT, that's why we have school programs encouraging them into IT, which is clearly a male dominated field.
Didn't you read this article?
While I find your comment funny, just once, I'd like to go about reading a web site without hearing what a bunch of retards my countrymen are.
*Looks around*
It sure looks like plenty of foreign nationals chose to attend Cornell. You'd think that they would avoid my country altogether as far as education is concerned, if Americans were really that stupid. While I'm glad to have them in my presence, it is a bit disheartening to turn on the radio, and hear yet another disparaging remark about my country. Their presence here is a counterexample to the argument that all American's are severely retarded. If you disbelieve me, ask a student from outside the US what the "brain drain" is.
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Funny. Someone HAS to have planned that one.