Oh, oh, the gullibles sure were as worried then as they are now, alarmed by the same quality of pseudo-scientists as the current CAGW crop. It just didn't become that "big", because post-normality had not taken hold, science was not yet so deeply infested by public-teat-sucking watermelons, and reasonable minds still prevailed.
Why do the current alarmists deny that old scare and try to swipe it under the carpet and rewrite history ? Do they count on the lack of memory and perspective of the general public ? Is the analogy hitting home too closely ? Is it an excercise for the serious backpedalling they'll have to do shortly, now that their pseudo-science is falsified ?
I'm Norwegian and I can inform you otherwise. What you're describing was before islam arrived (2nd generation fanatics) and helped throw massive amounts of grit into the system, a system of homogeneous societal trust that was never built to survive massive intentional abuse and violence. Now we're as fucked as everyone else even though the numbers on paper look prettier than elsewhere (as long as you squint just right and pretend not to know this or that). The last two years it has started to become plainly visible to just about any and all Norwegians and even the mainstream media is writing about the serious deficiencies (but not yet the root causes).
Some people have even stopped caring enough about their own well-being to bluntly admit to their own "nasty" thoughts! Even among the socialists! Ten more years of this and Europeans will make Hitler look like a lackadaisical pansy (I can't decide whether that's for better or worse but it would be nice to avoid it and still get rid of all the "cultural enrichments").
There are probably hundreds of studies that try to estimate the climate sensitivity. Most get numbers between 2 and 4 degrees per doubling........... So?
These studies are falsified by recent observations, and so far as they did so correctly (they were peer reviewed, right ?), so are the theories they rely on. So.
They're not that expensive - about 700€/h/y - if you own or can rent sufficient meadowage (I coined that term, didn't I ?) and care for them yourself. If you have to feed them all year round, or worse, stable them elsewhere, then yes, it gets expensive and the horses are none the happier nor healthier.
Cats and dogs are carnivores and on top of the food chain where the less than healthy stuff gets concentrated. All herbivores are good to eat, unless they're fed odd diets or medicated.
Seconded. Riding and owning horses for over 30 years, I just don't understand where the beef is in not wanting to eat horse meat. Eating your own horses is, well, too psychologically challenging but anonymous meat from a herbivore is fine.
With the gradual closing down of the nuclear power stations, Germany is increasingly relying on dirty coal or even dirtier lignite for electricity generation.
Heavily subsidised solar was just appeasement of ignorants who can't tell W from J and had their day in the sun while the economy was booming and money could be pissed away.
There is a remarkable coincidence between the economic downfall of Europe and the effects of unwise energy choices...
That would be my country, which is as socialist, potty trained, self righteous and politically correct as possible.
Gun laws are very strict. I had to have a rare family heirloom gun destroyed because at a certain point there was no legal way to keep it due to haphazard legislation by bedwetting socialists.
Yet a misfit managed to slay several infants with a knife in a small town. Another emprisoned, raped and murdered several children. A teacher killed several other youngsters.
For all its laws and regulations and little gun owership, there are way more incidents per inhabitant than in the US. For now. Lest assured that as the US goes down the socialist idiocracy path, things will not improve. Dumb as fuck gets you everytime.
For very low values of nice. Curious and interesting in a "my gosh, didn't know you could" fashion, yes, but nice, no.
I prefer a ripe, warm and velvet bouquet from better climes over the thin, sour and tart local produce from the same latitude just a few hektokliks east of you.
In the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter, more locally neither unless you have some dangling obligations causing untold trouble if not fulfilled.
Were it not for humans being emotionally wired for grief and fear of abandon, your decision to slit your wrists would just raise a "Well, she probably got what she wanted now."
Please toe the party line. Global warming is always and everywhere, per definition, bad. It cannot possibly have any positive effects anywhere. It does its deeds in such a way that evil is maximized. That's how nefarious it it.
If you still don't understand, an example: if you are cold and your friend next door is hot, global warming will freeze you as dry as a funeral pyre and boil your friend in his flooded home. At the same time.
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Oh, oh, the gullibles sure were as worried then as they are now, alarmed by the same quality of pseudo-scientists as the current CAGW crop.
It just didn't become that "big", because post-normality had not taken hold, science was not yet so deeply infested by public-teat-sucking watermelons, and reasonable minds still prevailed.
Why do the current alarmists deny that old scare and try to swipe it under the carpet and rewrite history ?
Do they count on the lack of memory and perspective of the general public ?
Is the analogy hitting home too closely ?
Is it an excercise for the serious backpedalling they'll have to do shortly, now that their pseudo-science is falsified ?
Australia had to come up with a new colour for their frickin' weather map it was so hot
Wrong. They just had to use the same color they used in the seventies, when it was equally hot.
I'm Norwegian and I can inform you otherwise. What you're describing was before islam arrived (2nd generation fanatics) and helped throw massive amounts of grit into the system, a system of homogeneous societal trust that was never built to survive massive intentional abuse and violence. Now we're as fucked as everyone else even though the numbers on paper look prettier than elsewhere (as long as you squint just right and pretend not to know this or that). The last two years it has started to become plainly visible to just about any and all Norwegians and even the mainstream media is writing about the serious deficiencies (but not yet the root causes).
Some people have even stopped caring enough about their own well-being to bluntly admit to their own "nasty" thoughts! Even among the socialists! Ten more years of this and Europeans will make Hitler look like a lackadaisical pansy (I can't decide whether that's for better or worse but it would be nice to avoid it and still get rid of all the "cultural enrichments").
Anders, is that you ?
There are probably hundreds of studies that try to estimate the climate sensitivity. Most get numbers between 2 and 4 degrees per doubling. .......... So?
These studies are falsified by recent observations, and so far as they did so correctly (they were peer reviewed, right ?), so are the theories they rely on. So.
Let this be an object lesson, but really you should have learned this in elementry school with "Peter and the Wolf".
At this point, we don't know whether the boy who cried wolf was called Peter. Could be, but the story doesn't say so explicitly.
Probably the other way round, it might grab sense from the jaws of his hard-to-understand utterings...
They're not that expensive - about 700€/h/y - if you own or can rent sufficient meadowage (I coined that term, didn't I ?) and care for them yourself. If you have to feed them all year round, or worse, stable them elsewhere, then yes, it gets expensive and the horses are none the happier nor healthier.
MPU, please.
Cats and dogs are carnivores and on top of the food chain where the less than healthy stuff gets concentrated. All herbivores are good to eat, unless they're fed odd diets or medicated.
Seconded. Riding and owning horses for over 30 years, I just don't understand where the beef is in not wanting to eat horse meat. Eating your own horses is, well, too psychologically challenging but anonymous meat from a herbivore is fine.
Because the late A123 didn't want to sell to Boeing unless they committed to buying a million units.
The right side would be the east side I guess.
And where do you guess the wrong side to be ?
With the gradual closing down of the nuclear power stations, Germany is increasingly relying on dirty coal or even dirtier lignite for electricity generation.
Heavily subsidised solar was just appeasement of ignorants who can't tell W from J and had their day in the sun while the economy was booming and money could be pissed away.
There is a remarkable coincidence between the economic downfall of Europe and the effects of unwise energy choices...
There's this crazy period called night when even millions of square miles of solar panels will produce zilch.
That would be my country, which is as socialist, potty trained, self righteous and politically correct as possible.
Gun laws are very strict. I had to have a rare family heirloom gun destroyed because at a certain point there was no legal way to keep it due to haphazard legislation by bedwetting socialists.
Yet a misfit managed to slay several infants with a knife in a small town. Another emprisoned, raped and murdered several children. A teacher killed several other youngsters.
For all its laws and regulations and little gun owership, there are way more incidents per inhabitant than in the US. For now. Lest assured that as the US goes down the socialist idiocracy path, things will not improve. Dumb as fuck gets you everytime.
Global warming has already caused untold damages. Not from direct effects - there are none - but from its secondaries: politicians and profiteers.
Fighting strawmen much, aren't you ? GP isn't stating the whole of Greenland was green.
For very low values of nice. Curious and interesting in a "my gosh, didn't know you could" fashion, yes, but nice, no.
I prefer a ripe, warm and velvet bouquet from better climes over the thin, sour and tart local produce from the same latitude just a few hektokliks east of you.
My goodness, it's an unavoidable disaster, go kill yourself already before it strikes you !
Where's the other 4/5th coming from?
Out of the weeping eyes of the crybabies.
In the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter, more locally neither unless you have some dangling obligations causing untold trouble if not fulfilled.
Were it not for humans being emotionally wired for grief and fear of abandon, your decision to slit your wrists would just raise a "Well, she probably got what she wanted now."
Cartesian ice, yummy !
You insensitive clod ? My grandmother, sitting in her rocker, got water up to her nose and drowned. One inch lower, and she wouldn't.
(I'll tell you another sad bedtime story tomorrow if you're nice.)
Lies, damn lies and statistics come to mind.
Please toe the party line. Global warming is always and everywhere, per definition, bad. It cannot possibly have any positive effects anywhere. It does its deeds in such a way that evil is maximized. That's how nefarious it it.
If you still don't understand, an example: if you are cold and your friend next door is hot, global warming will freeze you as dry as a funeral pyre and boil your friend in his flooded home. At the same time.