I work for the school and yes we do save that much money becuase we buy less kit, thin clients running on £30 machines (linux + citrix) and get more out of the servers we do have, and get more productive use out of our staff
- Actually I am Tim Fletcher as mentioned in the article
Just to clear up any confusion or misinformation about use of the smoothwall irc server, please look at: http://www.smoothwall.org/gpl/interact/irc.html as the current discusion in the chan is how unfair it is for some to post their irc logs to slashdot as #smoothwall is to quote:
dickmorrell: this is our private channel
dickmorrell: created for OUR team
dickmorrell: not a window on the world
Sometime ago I helped my younger brother with a smoothwall install (I had to bolt on a pnp init script for an NE2000 isa card). I read through the docs and mailing list stuff to see if this has:
Been done before
Being worked on now
It didn't apper tobe the case so I joined the irc chan and asked about the problem I had had, result: kickban
I was actually going to offer to write the pnp stuff I had done properly and then submit it to them, not any more thank you:)
I am the network manager for a large secondary school (Parrs Wood High School) in the UK. We have ~30 major servers in the school running various parts of the network but only 7 of them run windows (6 citrix desktop servers and an MSSQL / IIS box for the information management system, yes yes I know we are working on it), all the rest run linux. We also have about 50 printerservers running linux, all our 300 thin clients do and our full clients offer a windows / linux dual boot option. All auth is handled via samba-tng, webfiltering is via squidguard+dansguardian, file and print serving is done via samba, mail via Qmail.
I am now talking to the city council's eduction department about getting major deployments of linux city wide (Manchester in the UK)
We are widely acknowlaged as the most advanced in terms of computer and network use in the city, and one of the most advanced in the UK and the headtecher says that "This would not have been posible without linux it has saved me money"
People who are interested in this sort of thing please contact me we are more than happy to act as a referance site for linux and open source in schools.
My my that is annoying, but it does apper that it works with mozilla 0.9.7 and flash 5 from www.shockware.com, it does explain the random apperence of snowflakes on some pages recently. I hope that the next version of mozilla has a way to turn these things off (hint hint)
The school I am network manager for has a deployment of 250 linux based thin clients running citrix desktop software off 6 NT servers.
The linux client software is a heavierly customised RedHat 6.2 with an ext3 root fs (which is great not a single ext3 related fault on any of them and no fsck's) that basically boots an X session with a full screen citrix client on them.
All the full clients that we have (50 or so) have a dual boot option to a full RedHat 7.1 + Ximian 1.4 desktop that is used by some pupils and also the art department for Gimp and Blender work.
While these aren't true linux "desktops" they run run linux and sit on desks:).
All the back end servers are linux baring the 6 NT desktop servers. All filestore, mail, web, dns, auth, etc is run on linux.
I have the new Nokia 7110 with built in modem, which chats to linux irda quite happy, cuts down on the cables / cards needed and lets you do Matrix impresions:). It is a dual (not tri) band phone, so is europe only (not US), I mainly use it with my Palm V and I have had no problems. It also supports 14400Kbps / ISDN in the right area (It works in Manchester where I live) but not in more out of the way places. My girlfriend has a Motarola LT7089 (I think thats the number) it isn't a WAP phone but is Tri-band and has IR / modem. The problem is that in the docs it says the IR in windows only:( I haven't had time to test this as my laptop doesn't have an IR port. Anyone reading this have any info on this could you drop me a line please. I agree with the other poster who said about getting a cheap / 2nd hand laptop to take with you, I think that would be a much better bet. I would also take some sort of backup medium, cdr or 2nd hdd if you can. Or keep the hdd / laptop seperate (my laptop has a removable hdd)
There is nothing so organised as this planned, but I try to help interested 6th Formers to take a first look at Linux, and get it setup on there machines so they can experiment
I work for the school mentioned in this article (Parrs Wood), the full boxed set is useful for 2 things: 1. We have 3 33.6 modem lines and 1 64k ISDN line (currently b0rked) 2. Management like to see nice boxes from big companies
I am the network admin at Parrs Wood, I started work in the summer and set up a number of small networks running slackware, doing samba servering and masq'd modem connections.
Late last year we were looking for commerial funding for the school and I suggested we approched Redhat, they have agreed to £15,000 worth of sponsorship.
The other part of this deal is that we run Redhat linux on our servers (free support, training, etc) and provid a number of dual boot work stations.
This basically boils down to the fact that the backend is run on linux, the users never see it, it just works:).
I am very interested in hering from any linux folks in the north west of the UK, as we _may_ be looking for more staff / consulancy in the next 3-6 months
I am the network admin at Parrs Wood, the web site is hree its rubbish (not my fault:) but is gives you an idea We currently run a number of mini networks off Slackware (I set them up over the summer) We are inking a £15,000 deal with Redhat for sonsorship and training.
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That is entirely the corrct way, mention that it was disigned with Redhat in maind (and say what is need to install on a differant distro ie gtk+ 1.2 or above and glibc 2.1 and gadget lib 32.4523:)
I use Slackware 4.0 but I also have RH6.0 installed so that I can run rpms and other redhat gadgets via chroot. It works nicely,
I can run winamp which needs the threaded redhat xlibs that I cant be bothered to compile myself.
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Actually we support 7 other primary schools and a secondary special school
I work for the school and yes we do save that much money becuase we buy less kit, thin clients running on £30 machines (linux + citrix) and get more out of the servers we do have, and get more productive use out of our staff
- Actually I am Tim Fletcher as mentioned in the article
however if you make the effort to look you'll find that sendmail is only listening on loca loopback 127.0.0.1 (lo in linux speak)
LDAP and how to make it work for the things I want ie auth for 2000 users plus updating from samba and pam
Samba and NT/2000/XP the docs are far far behind the code which we actually run thou we have had a lot of trial and error stuff to get through
Just to clear up any confusion or misinformation about use of the smoothwall irc server, please look at: http://www.smoothwall.org/gpl/interact/irc.html as the current discusion in the chan is how unfair it is for some to post their irc logs to slashdot as #smoothwall is to quote:
dickmorrell: this is our private channel
dickmorrell: created for OUR team
dickmorrell: not a window on the world
Hint: Thats not what your website says
It didn't apper tobe the case so I joined the irc chan and asked about the problem I had had, result: kickban
I was actually going to offer to write the pnp stuff I had done properly and then submit it to them, not any more thank you :)
I am now talking to the city council's eduction department about getting major deployments of linux city wide (Manchester in the UK)
We are widely acknowlaged as the most advanced in terms of computer and network use in the city, and one of the most advanced in the UK and the headtecher says that "This would not have been posible without linux it has saved me money"
People who are interested in this sort of thing please contact me we are more than happy to act as a referance site for linux and open source in schools.
My my that is annoying, but it does apper that it works with mozilla 0.9.7 and flash 5 from www.shockware.com, it does explain the random apperence of snowflakes on some pages recently. I hope that the next version of mozilla has a way to turn these things off (hint hint)
The school I am network manager for has a deployment of 250 linux based thin clients running citrix desktop software off 6 NT servers.
:).
The linux client software is a heavierly customised RedHat 6.2 with an ext3 root fs (which is great not a single ext3 related fault on any of them and no fsck's) that basically boots an X session with a full screen citrix client on them.
All the full clients that we have (50 or so) have a dual boot option to a full RedHat 7.1 + Ximian 1.4 desktop that is used by some pupils and also the art department for Gimp and Blender work.
While these aren't true linux "desktops" they run run linux and sit on desks
All the back end servers are linux baring the 6 NT desktop servers. All filestore, mail, web, dns, auth, etc is run on linux.
I have the new Nokia 7110 with built in modem, which chats to linux irda quite happy, cuts down on the cables / cards needed and lets you do Matrix impresions :). It is a dual (not tri) band phone, so is europe only (not US), I mainly use it with my Palm V and I have had no problems. It also supports 14400Kbps / ISDN in the right area (It works in Manchester where I live) but not in more out of the way places. My girlfriend has a Motarola LT7089 (I think thats the number) it isn't a WAP phone but is Tri-band and has IR / modem. The problem is that in the docs it says the IR in windows only :( I haven't had time to test this as my laptop doesn't have an IR port. Anyone reading this have any info on this could you drop me a line please. I agree with the other poster who said about getting a cheap / 2nd hand laptop to take with you, I think that would be a much better bet. I would also take some sort of backup medium, cdr or 2nd hdd if you can. Or keep the hdd / laptop seperate (my laptop has a removable hdd)
There is nothing so organised as this planned, but I try to help interested 6th Formers to take a first look at Linux, and get it setup on there machines so they can experiment
I work for the school mentioned in this article (Parrs Wood), the full boxed set is useful for 2 things:
1. We have 3 33.6 modem lines and 1 64k ISDN line (currently b0rked)
2. Management like to see nice boxes from big companies
I am the network admin at Parrs Wood, I started work in the summer and set up a number of small networks running slackware, doing samba servering and masq'd modem connections.
:).
Late last year we were looking for commerial funding for the school and I suggested we approched Redhat, they have agreed to £15,000 worth of sponsorship.
The other part of this deal is that we run Redhat linux on our servers (free support, training, etc) and provid a number of dual boot work stations.
This basically boils down to the fact that the backend is run on linux, the users never see it, it just works
I am very interested in hering from any linux folks in the north west of the UK, as we _may_ be looking for more staff / consulancy in the next 3-6 months
I am the network admin at Parrs Wood, the web site is hree its rubbish (not my fault :) but is gives you an idea We currently run a number of mini networks off Slackware (I set them up over the summer) We are inking a £15,000 deal with Redhat for sonsorship and training.
That is entirely the corrct way, mention that it was disigned with Redhat in maind (and say what is need to install on a differant distro ie gtk+ 1.2 or above and glibc 2.1 and gadget lib 32.4523 :)
I use Slackware 4.0 but I also have RH6.0 installed so that I can run rpms and other redhat gadgets via chroot. It works nicely,
I can run winamp which needs the threaded redhat xlibs that I cant be bothered to compile myself.