These whiners will never be happy. Sure RedHat does good for the community, many people heralded them when they hired GNOME programmers. But it's commercial, therefore it is Microsoft. Hell, everything about GNOME caters to commercial folks. Seeing how you need a license to make commercial Qt apps, Troll would be the perfect company and KDE based distributions would be their savior. Yet, somehow they aren't happy and continue whining, and whining, and whining...
The LAST thing they want is diversity, choice in applications or distributions, or anything like that. It's sad, but it's the way for too many people. And they help paint the poor images Microsoft just loves to hand out about "Linux people."
It certainly wasn't because it's a "bad" post or anything. It was oh so inciteful, adds to the discussion of Mandrake. Sure, they're just out to get you my man. We all believe ya.
Hey, until everyone uses the one true distribution/desktop/etc, they'll never be happy. I find this more disturbing Microsoft-like behavior than some group making a program that puts an X in the upper right corner or has a pull down menu coming from a rectangular bar at the bottom of the screen.
Oh yeah, that's the reason. Lord knows it's certainly not because they've had six major releases...
By the same token, GNOME went 1.0 because KDE had a 1.0. Hmm, well that one's probably true.:)
Re:I still don`t like QPL
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So, your point is, owners are evil?
Who owns sendmail? Um, I forget his name now, but sendmail is commercial now too. Who owns apache? The Apache Group. Who owns ncftp? Ncftp Software.
... all of which are usually included in a distribution. So they are all evil?
Hell if RMS accepts the QPL, what more is there? Is he now a fringe luncatic to GNOMErs, replaced by Miguel as head guru?
Re:KDE is not a corporate body!
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As for the python bindings, there are two sets. One isn't maintained anymore, the other is pyKDE and is still maintained. I compiled pyKDE the other day with no trouble (it just takes forever). Let me know if that's the one you had trouble with, I can send you the.spec I made to compile it via rpm (pretty simple, just the standard configure/make/make install I think, not at home right now), or the binary rpm if you'd like (I make my own rpms).
Re:What is the ratio 1:8 ???
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Actually there is some discussions on the kde-devel list about this sort of thing, arrising from Miguel's BBC interview. KDE doesn't put out a whole lot of press releases or versions of programs and the like, so there's less coverage. And KDE developers keep things fairly quiet (in the public, feel free to brows the mail lists at lists.kde.org) until things are working very well. KDE 1.0 was a decent release, with many programs in a nice solid, stable state.
KOffice works for the most part right now, but not completely usable for the general public. So, rather than releasing anything like a version 0.1.93; they just leave it in CVS for developers/testers that know how to work CVS and there's no mentions of it on Freshmeat and the like. Some people want more releases (like Mozilla's releases), others prefer the current model.
In part, it's the modest way many KDE developers are that causes the lack of stories on KDE. They just want a solid program before going completely public.
As well as the CVS others have mentioned, the good folks at Troll package snapshots every night. Ftp over to ftp.troll.no, it's easy to find, something like/qt/snapshots/.
Re:I guess KDE is ok if you really want MS Windows
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It's not bastardized with KDE 2.0 really. Everything is replaced exept the 1 or 2 pixel frame around the window; I think the title bar also reflects the new app running. Come to think of it, the Konquerer toolbar is probably still there (it's been a few days since I played with KDE 2.0 cvs). But the point is you are running whatever application (kword, kspread, etc), no features are lost. Only a toolbar for Konq or minimal amount of the parent app remains, so you get kspread plus a little more.
For what it's worth, I pronounce it Kay-Oh-Emm and not comm. On the other hand, I pronounce Konqueror as well, conqueror, not Kay-Oh-En-Queue-Ewe-etc (I'm too tired to do the whole thing:)).
Re:~/.kde/share/apps/kpanel/pics/go.xpm
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That's still too much hacking for him, traversing directories, making your own xpms, etc. Sure the source exists, blah blah blah, but until these people can just shout at their monitor, "Put a penguin there!!" and make it work they won't be too pleased. Granted voice recognition isn't too prevelent in Linux, let alone thought recognition (for the "there" part), but still, until it does have it, Linux just isn't a real OS...
And by the time Linux does get complete mind/body/spirit recognition, it should be able to predict everything I will think/do/want to do/etc and just go with it...
:) That's the obligatory smiley for those not recognizing the sarcasm. But imagine a computer like that; would it just be a user simulator, sending out emails to your friends about the picnic planned for the next fourth of July or whatever...
You aren't "required" to use anything in this world. If you want to use KDE apps, then with that you must have appropriate libs. The same goes for GNOME. You can still even elect to use only the console modes and no graphics.
KDE things work fine in non-KDE compliant window managers, you just lose some minor functions. For the most part, you can still use the applications themselves, play KMahjongg to your heart's content. I'm sure GNOME's the same way; I just haven't spent enough time with GNOME to know just what it is dependent on.
I keep seeing this crop up every now and then. I just am not quite sure where the trouble lies? After reviewing a couple docs that come with Samba, it says somehting like "See ENCRYPTION.txt." Then looking at that revealed to set encryption = yes, maybe one or two other things, and voila...
But then again, I'm one of those that finds man pages useful, your mileage may vary.
The Windows client has two settings, run as screensaver or when the pretty window is frontmost, or always run.
I've left the window up, but not frontmost and it still is displaying graphics, so who knows how reliable that is. But I think when it's minimized it doesn't run, or is terribly slowed down.
When I read some of this stuff on Slashdot, I ask myself, why are people so bitchy?
The project was for a scavenger hunt, only $500 for first place, and this is just one item on the list. Their goal was not to power all of Chicago or the world, or to produce bombs with this device. And with this fact, people bitch and moan because it isn't a "real" reactor, or they didn't make enough plutonium...
There's plenty of room to cut these out of date classes. More room needs to be put in place for Saving the Rain Forest 101, I Like Me, Guns are Bad mm'K, and the like.
Smart kids are put down/ostrisized, recognition for valedictorians (or other intelligence related things) are being eliminated, normal classes are being wiped out, the liberals want more touchy feely crap, etc. And congressmen wonder why we suck in all those world-wide tests...
I know Transport Tycoon did work at one time under dosemu. I had a whole lotta fun back then. Of course that was long before they even thought of putting sound in dosemu, and I loved it.
My only requirement for many of these games is that they at least have an option to run windowed, not full screen. That makes them so much easier to hide when the boss comes up to my desk...
It is a worthy successor to the original. The original had some complaints from me, but expansion pack takes care of most of them. I have had some random crashes with the pack, but autosaving make it tolerable...
See this for my prediction on Railroad Tycoon 2, almost two weeks ago.
Anyway, I wonder if it's purely coincidence that my application for the beta of CTP included suggestions to port these two (along with HalfLife/TF2, I'm keeping my fingers crossed).
The first step in legitimizing Linux apps is the porting of these popular games. Once they see how many thousands are bought up, the issue of "not enough users" can be put to rest. Hell, I'll even buy the solitaire game just to support Loki.
There's more to VMWare than running MS products. I've often wondered what other distributions were like, or maybe try FreeBSD someday. With VMWare I can (and have in some instances).
... until it decides to overly autocomplete a site. Like typing "slash" then it fills in the dot.org/comments.pl?sid=... So I continue typing to the.org, then hit delete to remove everything after the/. Then if I don't hit return withing 1 second, it re-completes the whole freakin URL deep into comments. Personally, I have no problem just typing "slashdot.org" and being done with it. I know where I'm going, and how to type it;).
If it were added, I'd allow it if it was shutoff-able in preferences...
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These whiners will never be happy. Sure RedHat does good for the community, many people heralded them when they hired GNOME programmers. But it's commercial, therefore it is Microsoft. Hell, everything about GNOME caters to commercial folks. Seeing how you need a license to make commercial Qt apps, Troll would be the perfect company and KDE based distributions would be their savior. Yet, somehow they aren't happy and continue whining, and whining, and whining...
The LAST thing they want is diversity, choice in applications or distributions, or anything like that. It's sad, but it's the way for too many people. And they help paint the poor images Microsoft just loves to hand out about "Linux people."
It certainly wasn't because it's a "bad" post or anything. It was oh so inciteful, adds to the discussion of Mandrake. Sure, they're just out to get you my man. We all believe ya.
Hey, until everyone uses the one true distribution/desktop/etc, they'll never be happy. I find this more disturbing Microsoft-like behavior than some group making a program that puts an X in the upper right corner or has a pull down menu coming from a rectangular bar at the bottom of the screen.
But that's just me.
Oh yeah, that's the reason. Lord knows it's certainly not because they've had six major releases...
:)
By the same token, GNOME went 1.0 because KDE had a 1.0. Hmm, well that one's probably true.
So, your point is, owners are evil?
Who owns sendmail? Um, I forget his name now, but sendmail is commercial now too.
Who owns apache? The Apache Group.
Who owns ncftp? Ncftp Software.
... all of which are usually included in a distribution. So they are all evil?
Hell if RMS accepts the QPL, what more is there? Is he now a fringe luncatic to GNOMErs, replaced by Miguel as head guru?
As for the python bindings, there are two sets. One isn't maintained anymore, the other is pyKDE and is still maintained. I compiled pyKDE the other day with no trouble (it just takes forever). Let me know if that's the one you had trouble with, I can send you the .spec I made to compile it via rpm (pretty simple, just the standard configure/make/make install I think, not at home right now), or the binary rpm if you'd like (I make my own rpms).
Actually there is some discussions on the kde-devel list about this sort of thing, arrising from Miguel's BBC interview. KDE doesn't put out a whole lot of press releases or versions of programs and the like, so there's less coverage. And KDE developers keep things fairly quiet (in the public, feel free to brows the mail lists at lists.kde.org) until things are working very well. KDE 1.0 was a decent release, with many programs in a nice solid, stable state.
KOffice works for the most part right now, but not completely usable for the general public. So, rather than releasing anything like a version 0.1.93; they just leave it in CVS for developers/testers that know how to work CVS and there's no mentions of it on Freshmeat and the like. Some people want more releases (like Mozilla's releases), others prefer the current model.
In part, it's the modest way many KDE developers are that causes the lack of stories on KDE. They just want a solid program before going completely public.
As well as the CVS others have mentioned, the good folks at Troll package snapshots every night. Ftp over to ftp.troll.no, it's easy to find, something like /qt/snapshots/.
It's not bastardized with KDE 2.0 really. Everything is replaced exept the 1 or 2 pixel frame around the window; I think the title bar also reflects the new app running. Come to think of it, the Konquerer toolbar is probably still there (it's been a few days since I played with KDE 2.0 cvs). But the point is you are running whatever application (kword, kspread, etc), no features are lost. Only a toolbar for Konq or minimal amount of the parent app remains, so you get kspread plus a little more.
For what it's worth, I pronounce it Kay-Oh-Emm and not comm. On the other hand, I pronounce Konqueror as well, conqueror, not Kay-Oh-En-Queue-Ewe-etc (I'm too tired to do the whole thing :)).
That's still too much hacking for him, traversing directories, making your own xpms, etc. Sure the source exists, blah blah blah, but until these people can just shout at their monitor, "Put a penguin there!!" and make it work they won't be too pleased. Granted voice recognition isn't too prevelent in Linux, let alone thought recognition (for the "there" part), but still, until it does have it, Linux just isn't a real OS...
And by the time Linux does get complete mind/body/spirit recognition, it should be able to predict everything I will think/do/want to do/etc and just go with it...
:) That's the obligatory smiley for those not recognizing the sarcasm. But imagine a computer like that; would it just be a user simulator, sending out emails to your friends about the picnic planned for the next fourth of July or whatever...
You aren't "required" to use anything in this world. If you want to use KDE apps, then with that you must have appropriate libs. The same goes for GNOME. You can still even elect to use only the console modes and no graphics.
KDE things work fine in non-KDE compliant window managers, you just lose some minor functions. For the most part, you can still use the applications themselves, play KMahjongg to your heart's content. I'm sure GNOME's the same way; I just haven't spent enough time with GNOME to know just what it is dependent on.
I keep seeing this crop up every now and then. I just am not quite sure where the trouble lies? After reviewing a couple docs that come with Samba, it says somehting like "See ENCRYPTION.txt." Then looking at that revealed to set encryption = yes, maybe one or two other things, and voila...
But then again, I'm one of those that finds man pages useful, your mileage may vary.
The Windows client has two settings, run as screensaver or when the pretty window is frontmost, or always run.
I've left the window up, but not frontmost and it still is displaying graphics, so who knows how reliable that is. But I think when it's minimized it doesn't run, or is terribly slowed down.
When I read some of this stuff on Slashdot, I ask myself, why are people so bitchy?
The project was for a scavenger hunt, only $500 for first place, and this is just one item on the list. Their goal was not to power all of Chicago or the world, or to produce bombs with this device. And with this fact, people bitch and moan because it isn't a "real" reactor, or they didn't make enough plutonium...
Sheesh.
There's plenty of room to cut these out of date classes. More room needs to be put in place for Saving the Rain Forest 101, I Like Me, Guns are Bad mm'K, and the like.
Smart kids are put down/ostrisized, recognition for valedictorians (or other intelligence related things) are being eliminated, normal classes are being wiped out, the liberals want more touchy feely crap, etc. And congressmen wonder why we suck in all those world-wide tests...
I know Transport Tycoon did work at one time under dosemu. I had a whole lotta fun back then. Of course that was long before they even thought of putting sound in dosemu, and I loved it.
My only requirement for many of these games is that they at least have an option to run windowed, not full screen. That makes them so much easier to hide when the boss comes up to my desk...
It is a worthy successor to the original. The original had some complaints from me, but expansion pack takes care of most of them. I have had some random crashes with the pack, but autosaving make it tolerable...
Isn't OpenGL easier to port? I don't recall if BattleZone had it, but it is possible they'd support it now, with enough encouragement...
So remember, there's still time to speculate on the other four...
.. RT2/Myth2 would have been up there.
My wishlist:
Team Fortress 2
Tiberium Sun (of course)
Battlezone 2 (if it gets released this year, though I doubt it)
That's about it for current games
See this for my prediction on Railroad Tycoon 2, almost two weeks ago.
Anyway, I wonder if it's purely coincidence that my application for the beta of CTP included suggestions to port these two (along with HalfLife/TF2, I'm keeping my fingers crossed).
The first step in legitimizing Linux apps is the porting of these popular games. Once they see how many thousands are bought up, the issue of "not enough users" can be put to rest. Hell, I'll even buy the solitaire game just to support Loki.
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There's more to VMWare than running MS products. I've often wondered what other distributions were like, or maybe try FreeBSD someday. With VMWare I can (and have in some instances).
Check out the pricing page. There is an introductory offer if you buy it in the next couple months.
... until it decides to overly autocomplete a site. Like typing "slash" then it fills in the dot.org/comments.pl?sid=... So I continue typing to the .org, then hit delete to remove everything after the /. Then if I don't hit return withing 1 second, it re-completes the whole freakin URL deep into comments. Personally, I have no problem just typing "slashdot.org" and being done with it. I know where I'm going, and how to type it ;).
If it were added, I'd allow it if it was shutoff-able in preferences...