I was just wondering, I remember seeing 2.0.37 prepatches for a while, but a final 37 never came out. Have they officially retired the 2.0 line, or are people still working on making it stabler?
Too free, or too much of a free thing? I too don't really understand these people. I guess they are just conditioned from Windows type OSes where there are NEVER fixes to anything (games sometimes put out patches quickly, but stop after say 2 months of the game being released:)). Do people really equate never releasing a fix as, "This software is completely stable and perfect?"
It's one thing to want Linux perfect, but holding back fixes isn't in our nature...
A quick trip to Google revealled the Linux Router FAQ (http://www.linuxrouter.org/faq/LRP-FAQ-2.html) has some links at question 2.21 to the software and all. A few clicks around them, I wound up at www.linuxcentral.com which has them starting at $58.95 for a 8 character wide, 2 line display.
I picture this author like Tweak from that South Park episode with the underpants gnomes, just shaking there letting out a scream every once in a while. "There's secretly spying on us! Ahhh! Must stop Sony gnomes!"
Ugh, why do accidental backs now delete this text box?
Ok, here's a little more of the quote from Salon:
The various Linux distributions continue to morph into distinctly different identities. Does this mean that the Linux market is fulfilling the predictions of open-source skeptics by beginning to fragment into incompatibility, just as Unix did efore it?
Obviously, since there is multiple distributions, and they all aren't identical (by definition), nothing is compatible, right? And until we have just one distribution, we can never achieve the utopia that is Windows. That is the only reason Linux exists, right?
Now, to put a distribution in its perspective, one must understand the target audience for it. In OpenLinux 2.2's case, the hard core hacker isn't their target. So there isn't things like rxvt, many console editors, etc. They chose the KDE route and most likely the newer people that try OL will stick with GUI programs for a long time. For optimum performance, you probably don't want to muck with RPMs from other distros, but stick with whatever Caldera puts on their FTP site.
But, after the play around in COAS and what-not for a bit they may want to learn more about the underlying things. Just realize that without proper studying up on what you're doing, you can cause things to get messed up. In a worse case scenario, you'll have to reinstall, though I'd urge you to first research why what you did wreaked havoc. You can usually find a simpler solution (restore a default config file and re-edit or whatever).
This is where the beauty of Linux comes in. If you want to dig deep into just about anything, you can. There is no one company saying, "No! You cannot know what all the keys in the registry do (or any undocumented "feature")! Now go back home and use IE!" (not to point any one company out:)). Or when you call a tech support line because a card stopped working, "Have you installed any other software since the card's drivers? Yes. Well, we can't guarantee performance then. Reinstall Windows and see if it works." (Happened to me once, the moral of the story, never install anything.)
Let's face it. The vast majority of the media doesn't care. It's about entertainment, not news. They want hits, viewers, listeners, etc. So they have to do what they can to win people to their medium. I basically gave up on them when a local TV station's teaser for the news was something like, "10 ways your kids will kill themselves with household items. Tune in tonite for part one of our weeklong special." Shocker headlines is what advances a career, not journalism. Their job isn't to hunt down the story, look into allegations, discover the truth, etc. That's all just folklore of days long ago. Now it's just repeating what a "source" told them and ending there.
So here we are. This fringe group, coding in dark basements with piles of Fritos, that doesn't behave like Windows, programs aren't identical to Windows, etc. Until we pack up our bags and work to make Windows perfect (like one of them put it), we will never be well represented in the mass media. And they'll keep churning out this drivel that gets 100,000 hits in it's first day on the 'net and think nothing is wrong...
There is a Perl module that can do this; I just forget it's name, check CPAN. I had made a small program that would send out packets, for a sniffer program I was working on. The trouble I ran into was that since the kernel wasn't aware of these packets, it kept sending back reset packets. So I could send out one or two before the other server caught them and ignored everything else...
Coincidentally, there was a bit on TV this weekend by a guy said he created this prorgam that does this. It was on either those CNet style shows on SciFi before MST3K, or maybe Discovery channel's Discovery News. It just takes an archive of pictures, gives them like an average color value, then takes a big picture and starts plopping the pics in place roughly matching the colors. It's a neat idea, but I don't think it'd be too hard to re-make it as say a Gimp plugin...
Well, you can always leave negative feedback for someone who renigs...
Recently I saw the Star Wars HMMV being re-sold on ebay, so apparently whoever bid on it like a year ago never bought it. Or that Cool Site of the Year award, last I looked it was up to like $100k.
My votes for what I want ported: - HalfLife would be nice, but with TF2 coming around soon, that may be a better choice. The TFC addon has been plenty of fun. - RailRoad Tycoon II. What more is there to say? The expansion pack demo really improves on the original game, allowing cargo storage, etc. It's a great game that you can come back to anytime. - For RTS, of course Tiberium Sun would be perfect, but this demo for Wazone 2100 is pretty nice too.
Also in the annoying category are these "news" pages that format everything so it's 5 words wide. I guess they want it to look like a newspaper, but they only have one column. THen they fill all the extra space with junk, ads, etc on the left/right sides of the article. With that they still aren't satisfied, and stretch it out for several pages as well.
Ebay's feedback deal is about the only way to judge a person's trustworthyness. I sure wouldn't fork over several hundred for anything to someone that's just created a new account and has a zero rating. For computer stuff, there's many people/stores that sell on ebay full time and have scores of 1000 or more. I've had no trouble when dealing with them, for the most part.
After browsing the Ultima Online auctions, most of them are by sellers with very low feedback scores. So, I'd certainly be wary. Only try it if you don't mind losing the money.
I remember when Slashdot had a story about someone selling his UO character on ebay many months ago. It was cute and all, but I quickly forgot about it. Then today, I did a search on there for "Ultima Online" and wow, hundreds of items.
So, I wonder just how much you can get off something like this. I see several people selling for instance, just gold (100k is going for $30-50) or other pieces. I don't have the time/patience for these sort of games, but how long does it take to earn that much? You may be able to at least recoup the monthly fee this way, though I doubt you could make enough for it to be your profession... yet.
I did a search for "EFnet" and it came back with #cisco. It has one bid at $250, but apparently has been cancelleed. But that #aggies seems like a nicer deal, includes a t-shirt, three channels.
It's still there. Click on the Services link (http://www.mindcraft.com/company/services.html), second paragraph under Performance Testing & Capacity Planning.
Maybe if I was a huge corporation I could get attention from them, but I'm not...
Trust me, since no company is the size of MS, they don't care who you are (unless you're a competitor:)). A company I work at, very, very large, has been struggling with MS for about two years just to get a bit shaved off the price for Office 97 (many thousands of licenses needed), and a deal like having employees be able to install it at home as well as at work (Lotus was very accomidating here). MS just recently budged, saying they'd take off a few dollars (I forget, but like 20%, not much) when we buy a second license for them. And that's just for Office Standard (no Access), it's regular full price for Professional.
And don't even get me started on tech support for anything Windows. We only have a 1-900 number to call, even then it's useless. Everybody has just become accustomed to frequent reloading of NT. A three year lease on the hardware would expect two to three reloads during that time. I just find it amazing they are so pro-MS through all this. And it amazes me how much money the throw into ways of more "efficiently" reloading the OS, since many problems are hopeless to try and resolve.
I've recently gotten a bttv card and have been playing with it on a Windows machine for now to judge whether it'll suit my needs in a "native" environment, before I put it in my Linux box. Anyway, is there any utils, commercial or free, to do minor editing of video files, like concat mpegs into bigger ones, strip off the leading/trailing X number of frames, etc? It doesn't have to be as fancy as Adobe Premiere (but that would be a nice port for Adobe to start with:)).
I have found a handful of older mpeg/avi utils. But so far, they haven't liked the files my card outputs, different codecs and the like.
Well, in theory Microsoft themselves would be this repository. It's certainly a reasonable assumption, after all, they made the OS, right?
Getting any information out of it is a whole other matter. I'm sure they give preference, though, if you're an "indepedant" testing firm that consistently proves every other product in the world is horrible compared to Microsoft products.
But notice what it says right by the Y2K link? "...make your computer year 2000 compliant." Take the heat off Windows and blame the computer. But go ahead and click on that link.
Then you see that the fix takes up 10mb. But wait, you also need IE 4.01 SP 2, which needs 72mb. So, 82 megs for, as they put it, "several minor Year 2000 issues within Windows® 95."
Oh, but never forget:
EACH MICROSOFT YEAR 2000 STATEMENT IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. CONSEQUENTLY, MICROSOFT DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. MOREOVER, MICROSOFT DOES NOT WARRANT OR MAKE ANY REPRESENTATIONS REGARDING THE USE OR THE RESULTS OF THE USE OF ANY MICROSOFT YEAR 2000 STATEMENT IN TERMS OF ITS CORRECTNESS, ACCURACY, RELIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE. NO ORAL OR WRITTEN INFORMATION OR ADVICE GIVEN BY MICROSOFT OR ITS AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES SHALL CREATE A WARRANTY OR IN ANY WAY DECREASE THE SCOPE OF THIS WARRANTY DISCLAIMER. IN NO EVENT SHALL MICROSOFT OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER REGARDING ANY MICROSOFT YEAR 2000 STATEMENT INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS, PUNITIVE OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF MICROSOFT OR ITS SUPPLIERS HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
Of course, they bury that in that huge paragraph of all caps text. But in other words, it's not their problem if it still isn't fixed, you lose business, etc from these "minor issues." Enjoy, and don't forget to fork over several more hundred dollars for the latest, greatest, unguaranteed piece of software from your friends at Microsoft.
As others have said, that way of thinking is what got us where we are today. But, once they fix the uptime bug, I could see someone setting up a simple firewall sort of box (ala the Qube) for a small company and dropping it into a closet or something. Then 30 years later, they have forgotten about it because it just works. Then come that fateful day in December, 2038, the whole building explodes in a nuclear-type explosion.
What, even if they did release a patch you think it would cover everything? I'm sure a couple weeks later someone will fine a new Y2K problem and we're back at square one.
But the bit about EDS was interesting. After Microsoft's "advice" they suddenly decide to upgrade to Win98, and the CIO quits. I like to fantasize that he was pushing for Linux instead.:)
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whatever you don't, don't go and write one. Instead put AC posts on various web sites, whine, moan, etc. That'll get something done. Yeah...
I was just wondering, I remember seeing 2.0.37 prepatches for a while, but a final 37 never came out. Have they officially retired the 2.0 line, or are people still working on making it stabler?
Too free, or too much of a free thing? I too don't really understand these people. I guess they are just conditioned from Windows type OSes where there are NEVER fixes to anything (games sometimes put out patches quickly, but stop after say 2 months of the game being released :)). Do people really equate never releasing a fix as, "This software is completely stable and perfect?"
It's one thing to want Linux perfect, but holding back fixes isn't in our nature...
A quick trip to Google revealled the Linux Router FAQ (http://www.linuxrouter.org/faq/LRP-FAQ-2.html) has some links at question 2.21 to the software and all. A few clicks around them, I wound up at www.linuxcentral.com which has them starting at $58.95 for a 8 character wide, 2 line display.
I picture this author like Tweak from that South Park episode with the underpants gnomes, just shaking there letting out a scream every once in a while. "There's secretly spying on us! Ahhh! Must stop Sony gnomes!"
Is it just me, or is there no description for this and the next article? This seems to be about burnout or something...
Ugh, why do accidental backs now delete this text box?
:)). Or when you call a tech support line because a card stopped working, "Have you installed any other software since the card's drivers? Yes. Well, we can't guarantee performance then. Reinstall Windows and see if it works." (Happened to me once, the moral of the story, never install anything.)
Ok, here's a little more of the quote from Salon:
The various Linux distributions continue to morph into distinctly different identities. Does this mean that the Linux market is fulfilling the predictions of open-source skeptics by beginning to fragment into incompatibility, just as Unix did efore it?
Obviously, since there is multiple distributions, and they all aren't identical (by definition), nothing is compatible, right? And until we have just one distribution, we can never achieve the utopia that is Windows. That is the only reason Linux exists, right?
Now, to put a distribution in its perspective, one must understand the target audience for it. In OpenLinux 2.2's case, the hard core hacker isn't their target. So there isn't things like rxvt, many console editors, etc. They chose the KDE route and most likely the newer people that try OL will stick with GUI programs for a long time. For optimum performance, you probably don't want to muck with RPMs from other distros, but stick with whatever Caldera puts on their FTP site.
But, after the play around in COAS and what-not for a bit they may want to learn more about the underlying things. Just realize that without proper studying up on what you're doing, you can cause things to get messed up. In a worse case scenario, you'll have to reinstall, though I'd urge you to first research why what you did wreaked havoc. You can usually find a simpler solution (restore a default config file and re-edit or whatever).
This is where the beauty of Linux comes in. If you want to dig deep into just about anything, you can. There is no one company saying, "No! You cannot know what all the keys in the registry do (or any undocumented "feature")! Now go back home and use IE!" (not to point any one company out
Let's face it. The vast majority of the media doesn't care. It's about entertainment, not news. They want hits, viewers, listeners, etc. So they have to do what they can to win people to their medium. I basically gave up on them when a local TV station's teaser for the news was something like, "10 ways your kids will kill themselves with household items. Tune in tonite for part one of our weeklong special." Shocker headlines is what advances a career, not journalism. Their job isn't to hunt down the story, look into allegations, discover the truth, etc. That's all just folklore of days long ago. Now it's just repeating what a "source" told them and ending there.
So here we are. This fringe group, coding in dark basements with piles of Fritos, that doesn't behave like Windows, programs aren't identical to Windows, etc. Until we pack up our bags and work to make Windows perfect (like one of them put it), we will never be well represented in the mass media. And they'll keep churning out this drivel that gets 100,000 hits in it's first day on the 'net and think nothing is wrong...
There is a Perl module that can do this; I just forget it's name, check CPAN. I had made a small program that would send out packets, for a sniffer program I was working on. The trouble I ran into was that since the kernel wasn't aware of these packets, it kept sending back reset packets. So I could send out one or two before the other server caught them and ignored everything else...
They've already cancelled both auctions, so what was the other auction about?
Coincidentally, there was a bit on TV this weekend by a guy said he created this prorgam that does this. It was on either those CNet style shows on SciFi before MST3K, or maybe Discovery channel's Discovery News. It just takes an archive of pictures, gives them like an average color value, then takes a big picture and starts plopping the pics in place roughly matching the colors. It's a neat idea, but I don't think it'd be too hard to re-make it as say a Gimp plugin...
Well, you can always leave negative feedback for someone who renigs...
Recently I saw the Star Wars HMMV being re-sold on ebay, so apparently whoever bid on it like a year ago never bought it. Or that Cool Site of the Year award, last I looked it was up to like $100k.
It's cute though.
revision 2? The place I saw that had them labeled them as v1.1.
My votes for what I want ported:
- HalfLife would be nice, but with TF2 coming around soon, that may be a better choice. The TFC addon has been plenty of fun.
- RailRoad Tycoon II. What more is there to say? The expansion pack demo really improves on the original game, allowing cargo storage, etc. It's a great game that you can come back to anytime.
- For RTS, of course Tiberium Sun would be perfect, but this demo for Wazone 2100 is pretty nice too.
Also in the annoying category are these "news" pages that format everything so it's 5 words wide. I guess they want it to look like a newspaper, but they only have one column. THen they fill all the extra space with junk, ads, etc on the left/right sides of the article. With that they still aren't satisfied, and stretch it out for several pages as well.
Ebay's feedback deal is about the only way to judge a person's trustworthyness. I sure wouldn't fork over several hundred for anything to someone that's just created a new account and has a zero rating. For computer stuff, there's many people/stores that sell on ebay full time and have scores of 1000 or more. I've had no trouble when dealing with them, for the most part.
After browsing the Ultima Online auctions, most of them are by sellers with very low feedback scores. So, I'd certainly be wary. Only try it if you don't mind losing the money.
I remember when Slashdot had a story about someone selling his UO character on ebay many months ago. It was cute and all, but I quickly forgot about it. Then today, I did a search on there for "Ultima Online" and wow, hundreds of items.
So, I wonder just how much you can get off something like this. I see several people selling for instance, just gold (100k is going for $30-50) or other pieces. I don't have the time/patience for these sort of games, but how long does it take to earn that much? You may be able to at least recoup the monthly fee this way, though I doubt you could make enough for it to be your profession... yet.
I did a search for "EFnet" and it came back with #cisco. It has one bid at $250, but apparently has been cancelleed. But that #aggies seems like a nicer deal, includes a t-shirt, three channels.
It's still there. Click on the Services link (http://www.mindcraft.com/company/services.html), second paragraph under Performance Testing & Capacity Planning.
Maybe if I was a huge corporation I could get attention from them, but I'm not...
:)). A company I work at, very, very large, has been struggling with MS for about two years just to get a bit shaved off the price for Office 97 (many thousands of licenses needed), and a deal like having employees be able to install it at home as well as at work (Lotus was very accomidating here). MS just recently budged, saying they'd take off a few dollars (I forget, but like 20%, not much) when we buy a second license for them. And that's just for Office Standard (no Access), it's regular full price for Professional.
Trust me, since no company is the size of MS, they don't care who you are (unless you're a competitor
And don't even get me started on tech support for anything Windows. We only have a 1-900 number to call, even then it's useless. Everybody has just become accustomed to frequent reloading of NT. A three year lease on the hardware would expect two to three reloads during that time. I just find it amazing they are so pro-MS through all this. And it amazes me how much money the throw into ways of more "efficiently" reloading the OS, since many problems are hopeless to try and resolve.
I've recently gotten a bttv card and have been playing with it on a Windows machine for now to judge whether it'll suit my needs in a "native" environment, before I put it in my Linux box. Anyway, is there any utils, commercial or free, to do minor editing of video files, like concat mpegs into bigger ones, strip off the leading/trailing X number of frames, etc? It doesn't have to be as fancy as Adobe Premiere (but that would be a nice port for Adobe to start with :)).
I have found a handful of older mpeg/avi utils. But so far, they haven't liked the files my card outputs, different codecs and the like.
Well, in theory Microsoft themselves would be this repository. It's certainly a reasonable assumption, after all, they made the OS, right?
Getting any information out of it is a whole other matter. I'm sure they give preference, though, if you're an "indepedant" testing firm that consistently proves every other product in the world is horrible compared to Microsoft products.
But notice what it says right by the Y2K link? "...make your computer year 2000 compliant." Take the heat off Windows and blame the computer. But go ahead and click on that link.
Then you see that the fix takes up 10mb. But wait, you also need IE 4.01 SP 2, which needs 72mb. So, 82 megs for, as they put it, "several minor Year 2000 issues within Windows® 95."
Oh, but never forget:
EACH MICROSOFT YEAR 2000 STATEMENT IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. CONSEQUENTLY, MICROSOFT DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. MOREOVER, MICROSOFT DOES NOT WARRANT OR MAKE ANY REPRESENTATIONS REGARDING THE USE OR THE RESULTS OF THE USE OF ANY MICROSOFT YEAR 2000 STATEMENT IN TERMS OF ITS CORRECTNESS, ACCURACY,
RELIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE. NO ORAL OR WRITTEN INFORMATION OR ADVICE GIVEN BY MICROSOFT OR ITS AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES SHALL CREATE A WARRANTY OR IN ANY WAY DECREASE THE SCOPE OF THIS WARRANTY DISCLAIMER. IN NO EVENT SHALL MICROSOFT OR ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER REGARDING ANY MICROSOFT YEAR 2000 STATEMENT INCLUDING DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, LOSS OF BUSINESS PROFITS, PUNITIVE
OR SPECIAL DAMAGES, EVEN IF MICROSOFT OR ITS SUPPLIERS HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
Of course, they bury that in that huge paragraph of all caps text. But in other words, it's not their problem if it still isn't fixed, you lose business, etc from these "minor issues." Enjoy, and don't forget to fork over several more hundred dollars for the latest, greatest, unguaranteed piece of software from your friends at Microsoft.
As others have said, that way of thinking is what got us where we are today. But, once they fix the uptime bug, I could see someone setting up a simple firewall sort of box (ala the Qube) for a small company and dropping it into a closet or something. Then 30 years later, they have forgotten about it because it just works. Then come that fateful day in December, 2038, the whole building explodes in a nuclear-type explosion.
I'd be interested in knowing the reason they DO recommend going to the latest versions..
That would have to be, like they are always screaming, "But users what it!!" If you scream loudly and often enough, people start to believe.
What, even if they did release a patch you think it would cover everything? I'm sure a couple weeks later someone will fine a new Y2K problem and we're back at square one.
:)
But the bit about EDS was interesting. After Microsoft's "advice" they suddenly decide to upgrade to Win98, and the CIO quits. I like to fantasize that he was pushing for Linux instead.