What's with Tux in the Uncle Sam hat? I thought Linux developers/users came from all over the world. I know Slashdot is rather U.S.-centric, they even say so in the FAQ, but they didn't put the stars and stripes in their logo.
Don't need to force my provider, they're going to be selling it off in bits and pieces soon enough.
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http://riverwalk.ebaseinteractive.com/
They're a web design company. I would think that they should realize nothing is quite as annoying as not having any text but in the ALT tags, so you have to hover over every graphic to find out if it's a link, and if so, where to.
"We'd very much like corporations to think about their obligations to respect the intellectual property rights of our artists and labels," he said. "Some of these corporations, we are told, have their own little networks--that is very clearly illegal.
So corporate networks are illegal now thanks to the RIAA. Guess I better sell all those spools of CAT5 on eBay and stock up on floppies.
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SELF MODERATION IN EFFECT: WARNING!!! ETHNIC FLAMING!!!
Pascal programmer from outside the US. Tell me, are you part of the newsgroup posters that ask the most basic questions like how to open a file, or are you part of the group that post questions asking people to write the entire application for you?
But I program in pascal so I'm used to "if x = y then". Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it was to learn Perl when I erroneously coded all my comparisons that way and I couldn't figure out why nothing was working because it was setting everything to valid numbers, just the wrong numbers. I'll admit that after I realized my stupidity I've been able to quickly find those buggers.
I program in Delphi and there's nothing quite like getting a resize event for no apparent reason before an object has been created in the constructor or after it's been freed in the destructor.
The article didn't say it was dead. They said it hasn't made a dent in the home market yet. For it to have failed it would have needed to be adopted and then abandoned and I didn't see where the article claimed that tons of people were dumping Linux.
They also plug MS products so it's definitely biased and more advertising for MS shrouded in a Linux article in an attempt to get geeks to read it.
I think the poster deserves to me marked as flamebait more than the MSNBC article. After all, who reads MSNBC tech news anyways?
I didn't have to read the whole bible to discard it an nonsense. You can go ahead and be one of the sheep if you want but I'll continue using my own brain regardless of what you think of my conclusions.
You can't really say I'm wrong either unless you read the whole 309 page study. The point is that these studies are ALWAYS innacurate. It's all just a guess using small samples of the population and extending those values out to cover the entire population. It's going to be about as accurate as those claims on how much the Code Red virus cost.
I'm sorry, but one of my pet peeves is armchair analysts that are willing to knock down any comments that show any skepticism about written material and assume such material must be treated as though it is correct until proven wrong by a college professor or industry giant.
Well, unless a software package specifically declares it will save you 2 hours per day without any fine print at the bottom saying the user must know how to use the software then it can't really be a cost.
If you buy a system and find out the first week it takes 2 hours less to do payroll than it used to, and you expect that figure to remain constant that's fairly unrealistic. Software is really a tool in the business sense. A carpenter wouldn't expect a hammer to last forever. So businesses should expect some downtime for tool maintenance. They do so with servers. Just because the bits and bytes don't change within the EXE file doesn't mean the bits and bytes in RAM remain constant.
I hope you're not serious. If I sold my software on a console like a game system that could not be modified or have anything else plugged into it then maybe I'd be more liable if the thing crashed. But I'd also have a warranty period just like car manufacturers do. They know how long their materials are going to last and make sure that they guarantee them for less than that.
Besides, software is not physical, it really doesn't "exist". There is no guarantee that those bits will be interpretted in the exact same way and order every single time.
I skimmed through the article and I didn't see any place where it said how much it would cost to actually produce bug free code. I'm betting much more than the $60 billion arbitrary figure they came up with. And any additional cost in such a task would be passed on to the customer anyway, so they'd still foot the bill.
In any case, there's "good enough" software. If you lose 5 minutes to bugs per day, but overall the software saves you 2 hours a day vs. your previous way of performing the task, then you're coming out ahead anyways.
"That any development disclosed by the associate to a third person within six months following the period of employment with the company shall be presumed to have been conceived or made during the period of employment with the company unless proved to have been conceived and made following the termination of employement with the company."
Technically it's meaningless because my current employer wouldn't know if I gave secrets to a new employer but it's all that legal crapola.
Of course it also boils down to your own personal ethics. You should know where to draw the line. Now if you've created some incredible 500:1 lossless compression technology and you start at a new company that's try to create compression alogorithms then obviously you can't give them that formula. It all depends on a variety of variables that the poster didn't elaborate on so I don't think anybody here can give a definite answer.
I agree. I remember them way back then. The ads that bug me the most now are the ones that have cars honking or sirens going off. It makes me look in my rear view mirror every time.
The ClearChannel station I listen to is The Nerve 95.1 out of Rochester, NY. I don't mind the ads so much, but I can't stand the neverending playing of Guns N' Roses and Pink Floyd. Actually, over 50% of what they play seems to be from bands that aren't together anymore. Is it cheaper to play songs that are from extinct bands?
I live in a small town of about 5,000. There's a junk dealer that turned into a full time e-bay seller. He makes money by handling all the e-bay stuff for people in the area. People drop off the stuff they want to sell, and he takes pictures of it and handles the shipping, all for a percentage of the sale price.
Hehe, I was actually being serious but I guess most people took that as funny. Thanks. I should probably have known that existed but I'm sure I missed a/. discussion about it during one of my cable providers week long outages.
What's with Tux in the Uncle Sam hat? I thought Linux developers/users came from all over the world. I know Slashdot is rather U.S.-centric, they even say so in the FAQ, but they didn't put the stars and stripes in their logo.
Don't need to force my provider, they're going to be selling it off in bits and pieces soon enough.
http://riverwalk.ebaseinteractive.com/
They're a web design company. I would think that they should realize nothing is quite as annoying as not having any text but in the ALT tags, so you have to hover over every graphic to find out if it's a link, and if so, where to.
Let me apologize for making a sarcastic comment you were too stupid to identify. Next time I'll use tags to help you out.
"We'd very much like corporations to think about their obligations to respect the intellectual property rights of our artists and labels," he said. "Some of these corporations, we are told, have their own little networks--that is very clearly illegal.
So corporate networks are illegal now thanks to the RIAA. Guess I better sell all those spools of CAT5 on eBay and stock up on floppies.
I hope my wife dies before I get old.
SELF MODERATION IN EFFECT: WARNING!!! ETHNIC FLAMING!!!
Pascal programmer from outside the US. Tell me, are you part of the newsgroup posters that ask the most basic questions like how to open a file, or are you part of the group that post questions asking people to write the entire application for you?
But I program in pascal so I'm used to "if x = y then". Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it was to learn Perl when I erroneously coded all my comparisons that way and I couldn't figure out why nothing was working because it was setting everything to valid numbers, just the wrong numbers. I'll admit that after I realized my stupidity I've been able to quickly find those buggers.
I program in Delphi and there's nothing quite like getting a resize event for no apparent reason before an object has been created in the constructor or after it's been freed in the destructor.
The article didn't say it was dead. They said it hasn't made a dent in the home market yet. For it to have failed it would have needed to be adopted and then abandoned and I didn't see where the article claimed that tons of people were dumping Linux.
They also plug MS products so it's definitely biased and more advertising for MS shrouded in a Linux article in an attempt to get geeks to read it.
I think the poster deserves to me marked as flamebait more than the MSNBC article. After all, who reads MSNBC tech news anyways?
You're right, "usually" or "alleged" would have been more politically correct. But that's ok, I was responding to a personal attack anyways.
I didn't have to read the whole bible to discard it an nonsense. You can go ahead and be one of the sheep if you want but I'll continue using my own brain regardless of what you think of my conclusions.
You can't really say I'm wrong either unless you read the whole 309 page study. The point is that these studies are ALWAYS innacurate. It's all just a guess using small samples of the population and extending those values out to cover the entire population. It's going to be about as accurate as those claims on how much the Code Red virus cost.
I'm sorry, but one of my pet peeves is armchair analysts that are willing to knock down any comments that show any skepticism about written material and assume such material must be treated as though it is correct until proven wrong by a college professor or industry giant.
I'm too lazy to go find the link but somebody has a patent on using a laser pointing device to get a cat to move around. Sadly, I am being serious.
Well, unless a software package specifically declares it will save you 2 hours per day without any fine print at the bottom saying the user must know how to use the software then it can't really be a cost.
If you buy a system and find out the first week it takes 2 hours less to do payroll than it used to, and you expect that figure to remain constant that's fairly unrealistic. Software is really a tool in the business sense. A carpenter wouldn't expect a hammer to last forever. So businesses should expect some downtime for tool maintenance. They do so with servers. Just because the bits and bytes don't change within the EXE file doesn't mean the bits and bytes in RAM remain constant.
I hope you're not serious. If I sold my software on a console like a game system that could not be modified or have anything else plugged into it then maybe I'd be more liable if the thing crashed. But I'd also have a warranty period just like car manufacturers do. They know how long their materials are going to last and make sure that they guarantee them for less than that.
Besides, software is not physical, it really doesn't "exist". There is no guarantee that those bits will be interpretted in the exact same way and order every single time.
I skimmed through the article and I didn't see any place where it said how much it would cost to actually produce bug free code. I'm betting much more than the $60 billion arbitrary figure they came up with. And any additional cost in such a task would be passed on to the customer anyway, so they'd still foot the bill.
In any case, there's "good enough" software. If you lose 5 minutes to bugs per day, but overall the software saves you 2 hours a day vs. your previous way of performing the task, then you're coming out ahead anyways.
Personally I had to sign a contract stating:
"That any development disclosed by the associate to a third person within six months following the period of employment with the company shall be presumed to have been conceived or made during the period of employment with the company unless proved to have been conceived and made following the termination of employement with the company."
Technically it's meaningless because my current employer wouldn't know if I gave secrets to a new employer but it's all that legal crapola.
Of course it also boils down to your own personal ethics. You should know where to draw the line. Now if you've created some incredible 500:1 lossless compression technology and you start at a new company that's try to create compression alogorithms then obviously you can't give them that formula. It all depends on a variety of variables that the poster didn't elaborate on so I don't think anybody here can give a definite answer.
If the other stations only play 10% of what I like then you do the math. I bought a riovolt for the car though so now I'm all set for the most part.
I agree. I remember them way back then. The ads that bug me the most now are the ones that have cars honking or sirens going off. It makes me look in my rear view mirror every time.
The ClearChannel station I listen to is The Nerve 95.1 out of Rochester, NY. I don't mind the ads so much, but I can't stand the neverending playing of Guns N' Roses and Pink Floyd. Actually, over 50% of what they play seems to be from bands that aren't together anymore. Is it cheaper to play songs that are from extinct bands?
I live in a small town of about 5,000. There's a junk dealer that turned into a full time e-bay seller. He makes money by handling all the e-bay stuff for people in the area. People drop off the stuff they want to sell, and he takes pictures of it and handles the shipping, all for a percentage of the sale price.
Don't forget the eye in the pyramid reminding us that they're watching us!
Or a single 4 year old that isn't any good at the games but want to play them anyways.
Hehe, I was actually being serious but I guess most people took that as funny. Thanks. I should probably have known that existed but I'm sure I missed a /. discussion about it during one of my cable providers week long outages.