on the secret US missile bases on the far side of the moon, they have embedded computers inside the manhole cover that was shot into space mid last century to monitor the aliens on alpha centauri. but the germans sent the jews to pakistan to revive the supreme commander of the ewoks and dig out the ancient solaco spaceship that contained the dreaded mr hanky.
Amen brother! this is his shoe... which is way more apologetic than the sacred gord.
but in any case, as long as i.n.t.e.l.i.g.e.n.c.e stays of the shitty wall, the mongorians will be able to restore peace and order to the galaxy, and lieutenant coffee might ease off the button a little.
on the other hand, microsoft bankruptsy is impractical due to limitations of the T-virus and 30+ suntan lotion, so the only motorvehicle suitable for faster than light travel would be a volkswagon beetle because the nazi party was the major sponsor of mr spocks jaba juice.
has anyone tried a little sql injection in the unxis contact form? might make for some more/. entertainment if any sign of it succeeding emerges. or better yet, may a ddos attack by Anonymous
that's like saying that windows doesn't get viruses except when it does. pretty meaningless. when repository packages flag insecure (hey, at least they are flagged), it is usually because the package index is out of date (gosh its hard to type "apt-get update").
it is quite difficult to detect tampering when you actually don't control the source code
you're right, but doesn't that make windows and windows software look even worse? at least there is a contingent of developers and power users (that do have access to the source code) looking after debian repositories. you can make all sorts of rediculous arguments against the security of debian stable repos, but you'll always manage to make windows and associated crapware look much worse for it.
Stop buying crappy hardware
ummm, maybe you missed the bit about me not having to buy hardware? i do work with free linux programs using free ex-windows hardware. i use a windows workstation at work (Autodesk Inventor mainly), but engineering data from out finite element package is uploaded to a intranet app developed and hosted on a linux server... again using second-hand hardware.
That's probably because people buy new computers because they need to do some actual work.
erm... i don't even think you really believe that do you? surely you can't be that ignorant. if you're gunna make dumb ass arguments like that, we aren't going to have much of a discussion
Go ahead, install your favourite distro on a 486DX with 4Mb of ram with X, and tell me how awesome your experience is
i bet you think you're smart, but i'm actually talking about pentium 4s with 512 Mb RAM or more. windows vista and 7 don't run on these, but the tasks that people normally do in windows that they can't do with this "older" hardware (even web browsing with XP with SP3 is notoriously slow on a pentium 4 if you're also running a virus monitoring program like AVG or Avast in the background).
I use Windows since v2.6, and the last virus I got was around 1995 - and it was a DOS virus
its funny how often i hear this sort of thing. unfortunately it doesn't tell me anything. do you visit porn sites or software crack sites? have you even connected your windows computer to the internet? my father went years without getting a windows virus, and he knows nothing about computers; and then one day he did and it crippled his system. that you have avoided them so far doesn't mean you won't get infected tomorrow. you can avoid viruses with windows, but with linux you don't have to.
Operating systems are tools, all of them have strengths and weaknesses
[sco army stands at the bottom of a hill with their bows and arrows at the ready. ibm rep rides down from top of hill to meet sco rep]
ibm to sco: "i want you to leave this land and never return"
sco to ibm: "oh yeah, you and what army!?"
[cut to entire ibm behemoth, linux community and other corporations with any vested interest in linux marching over the hill top armed with minguns and bazookas]
that's because windows software is often bloated, whereas linux offers a lot of cli tools or libs with optional gui layers (google "unix philosophy"). there are some nicely written windows tools out there, but they seem to be the exception rather than the norm, and microsoft isn't exactly a good software development role model.
my three year old daughter was "helping my pyewta" one day, and she plugged a network cable through an open pci card spot in the back of the case. i was hopeful when i turned it on afterward, but alas i didn't get any connection. she's so smart though.
The biggest fallacy is that you usually don't have a "single one that does everything" in oss. Not even "one that does most of things". You usually have 3 or 4 competing, uncomplete and often bug-ridden applications to do the same basic tasks, and none that provides advanced tasks. And with field-specific applications, you're often way better off with a commercial product than with a community "hack" (with all respect for those who dedicated their time to develop). Just because it works and produces it doesn't mean it works well, or does its function correctly.
if i hadn't followed the thread i could have sworn you were talking about all the virus-infected, malware-prone, buggy, useless insecure shitware available on the internet for windows.
all my linux apps come out of the distro's official secured package repository, so its as easy as opening synaptic, double-clicking whatever apps I want (nicely categorized and searchable) and click the "apply" button. dependencies are all sorted out for me, and i think the only packages i've ever downloaded off the unsecure interweb is draftsight and the latest version of adobe flash player (fucking youtube).
i'm thankful not to have to worry about my machine being bogged down by antivirus and adware programs, having to trawl the web for drivers (such as ac'97) and basic programs like pdf readers (why the hell a pdf reader needs to be more than a couple of hundred kb is beyond me), and having to buy office and graphics packages separately and install them with CDs/DVDs. why is windows always so bloated and slow? people keep upgrading their hardware in an endless effort to achieve reasonable performance out of their existing programs, but when the programs "need" to be updated, they are full of even more bloat, and the vicious cycle continues ad infinitum. i get "old" computers for free because linux runs fine on them, but i do feel sorry for those poor suckers stuck with windows.
DraftSight is compatible with AutoCAD dwg, and its developed by Dassault Systems (developers of Catia) so it should definitely be considered "professional grade".
also, many of the 3D animated Hollywood blockbusters are produced and rendered using Linux
nice guys finish last
money talks and bullshit walks
golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules
etc.
unfortunately we have human nature to contend with, and that is the Achilles heel of our very existence... humanity is literally its own worst enemy. just as there will be those who do good, there will be those that take advantage. the seven sins have more authority over humankind than the ten commandments will ever have.
regarding energy of the future, i think permanent magnetism may hold the key. it is after all one of the fundamental forces of the universe, and permanent magnet "perpetual motion" needn't defy the laws of physics any more than nuclear fission or fusion reactions. the only way to completely stop the infinite number of tiny perpetual motion machines that are electrons spinning around their nuclei is to freeze them to absolute zero. the problem with permanent magnet motors is that there are so many kooks blathering their ill-conceived and unproven contraptions all over the internet in the hope for patent royalties that any promising technology in the field will be drowned out. it would also face a direct assault from the full might of all the mega corporations with vested interest in the status quo.
nah don't pick on the poor guy. fortran was all he had
plurbum snotus blowis my nosis.
on the secret US missile bases on the far side of the moon, they have embedded computers inside the manhole cover that was shot into space mid last century to monitor the aliens on alpha centauri. but the germans sent the jews to pakistan to revive the supreme commander of the ewoks and dig out the ancient solaco spaceship that contained the dreaded mr hanky.
Amen brother! this is his shoe... which is way more apologetic than the sacred gord.
but in any case, as long as i.n.t.e.l.i.g.e.n.c.e stays of the shitty wall, the mongorians will be able to restore peace and order to the galaxy, and lieutenant coffee might ease off the button a little.
on the other hand, microsoft bankruptsy is impractical due to limitations of the T-virus and 30+ suntan lotion, so the only motorvehicle suitable for faster than light travel would be a volkswagon beetle because the nazi party was the major sponsor of mr spocks jaba juice.
timmah!!!!
they have plenty of pu from their uranusum mines
i just inherited 6,000,000,000 bytes of porn from my late torrent software, and i need help getting myself off.
6 trillion US dollars doesn't seem like much for some reason. pre-hyperinflationary hyperinflation maybe?
dirka dirka dirka... ah dirka dirka jihad.
he has balls... i like his balls
just don't get on his shitty wall
but could he be the new apk?
or pultominam
why would you need real fake bonds for a nigerian scam? even a pic of such "bonds" could be doctored from pics off the net.
has anyone tried a little sql injection in the unxis contact form? might make for some more /. entertainment if any sign of it succeeding emerges. or better yet, may a ddos attack by Anonymous
Except when they don't
that's like saying that windows doesn't get viruses except when it does. pretty meaningless. when repository packages flag insecure (hey, at least they are flagged), it is usually because the package index is out of date (gosh its hard to type "apt-get update").
it is quite difficult to detect tampering when you actually don't control the source code
you're right, but doesn't that make windows and windows software look even worse? at least there is a contingent of developers and power users (that do have access to the source code) looking after debian repositories. you can make all sorts of rediculous arguments against the security of debian stable repos, but you'll always manage to make windows and associated crapware look much worse for it.
Stop buying crappy hardware
ummm, maybe you missed the bit about me not having to buy hardware? i do work with free linux programs using free ex-windows hardware. i use a windows workstation at work (Autodesk Inventor mainly), but engineering data from out finite element package is uploaded to a intranet app developed and hosted on a linux server... again using second-hand hardware.
That's probably because people buy new computers because they need to do some actual work.
erm... i don't even think you really believe that do you? surely you can't be that ignorant. if you're gunna make dumb ass arguments like that, we aren't going to have much of a discussion
Go ahead, install your favourite distro on a 486DX with 4Mb of ram with X, and tell me how awesome your experience is
i bet you think you're smart, but i'm actually talking about pentium 4s with 512 Mb RAM or more. windows vista and 7 don't run on these, but the tasks that people normally do in windows that they can't do with this "older" hardware (even web browsing with XP with SP3 is notoriously slow on a pentium 4 if you're also running a virus monitoring program like AVG or Avast in the background).
I use Windows since v2.6, and the last virus I got was around 1995 - and it was a DOS virus
its funny how often i hear this sort of thing. unfortunately it doesn't tell me anything. do you visit porn sites or software crack sites? have you even connected your windows computer to the internet? my father went years without getting a windows virus, and he knows nothing about computers; and then one day he did and it crippled his system. that you have avoided them so far doesn't mean you won't get infected tomorrow. you can avoid viruses with windows, but with linux you don't have to.
Operating systems are tools, all of them have strengths and weaknesses
at least we agree on one thing
Because I also know how to make a google search
apparently not
...and flick over to the groklaw channel
...to be continued...
[sco army stands at the bottom of a hill with their bows and arrows at the ready. ibm rep rides down from top of hill to meet sco rep]
ibm to sco: "i want you to leave this land and never return"
sco to ibm: "oh yeah, you and what army!?"
[cut to entire ibm behemoth, linux community and other corporations with any vested interest in linux marching over the hill top armed with minguns and bazookas]
that's because windows software is often bloated, whereas linux offers a lot of cli tools or libs with optional gui layers (google "unix philosophy"). there are some nicely written windows tools out there, but they seem to be the exception rather than the norm, and microsoft isn't exactly a good software development role model.
never had that problem. maybe you should avoid experimental and testing repos and stick with stable (if using Debian anyway)
maybe you mean "workspaces" (in Gnome). i so wish windows had those (where i work i have no choice). unfortunately windows doesn't benefit from X.
my three year old daughter was "helping my pyewta" one day, and she plugged a network cable through an open pci card spot in the back of the case. i was hopeful when i turned it on afterward, but alas i didn't get any connection. she's so smart though.
me too, but its nice to hear when things are getting tougher for the good folks at redmond
it will even make you feel like a lazy idiot and a sore loser if you are one (and apparently you are)
problem is if you haven't learned how to install it, you may be screwed when it breaks
The biggest fallacy is that you usually don't have a "single one that does everything" in oss. Not even "one that does most of things". You usually have 3 or 4 competing, uncomplete and often bug-ridden applications to do the same basic tasks, and none that provides advanced tasks. And with field-specific applications, you're often way better off with a commercial product than with a community "hack" (with all respect for those who dedicated their time to develop). Just because it works and produces it doesn't mean it works well, or does its function correctly.
if i hadn't followed the thread i could have sworn you were talking about all the virus-infected, malware-prone, buggy, useless insecure shitware available on the internet for windows.
all my linux apps come out of the distro's official secured package repository, so its as easy as opening synaptic, double-clicking whatever apps I want (nicely categorized and searchable) and click the "apply" button. dependencies are all sorted out for me, and i think the only packages i've ever downloaded off the unsecure interweb is draftsight and the latest version of adobe flash player (fucking youtube).
i'm thankful not to have to worry about my machine being bogged down by antivirus and adware programs, having to trawl the web for drivers (such as ac'97) and basic programs like pdf readers (why the hell a pdf reader needs to be more than a couple of hundred kb is beyond me), and having to buy office and graphics packages separately and install them with CDs/DVDs. why is windows always so bloated and slow? people keep upgrading their hardware in an endless effort to achieve reasonable performance out of their existing programs, but when the programs "need" to be updated, they are full of even more bloat, and the vicious cycle continues ad infinitum. i get "old" computers for free because linux runs fine on them, but i do feel sorry for those poor suckers stuck with windows.
DraftSight is compatible with AutoCAD dwg, and its developed by Dassault Systems (developers of Catia) so it should definitely be considered "professional grade".
also, many of the 3D animated Hollywood blockbusters are produced and rendered using Linux
a decent CAD suite (2D and 3D) with full AutoCad compatibility and plotter support
google DraftSight by Dassault Systems (makers of Catia)
because it would be impossible for someone to make a gui or a bash script for it if there was enough demand
nice guys finish last
money talks and bullshit walks
golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules
etc.
unfortunately we have human nature to contend with, and that is the Achilles heel of our very existence... humanity is literally its own worst enemy. just as there will be those who do good, there will be those that take advantage. the seven sins have more authority over humankind than the ten commandments will ever have.
regarding energy of the future, i think permanent magnetism may hold the key. it is after all one of the fundamental forces of the universe, and permanent magnet "perpetual motion" needn't defy the laws of physics any more than nuclear fission or fusion reactions. the only way to completely stop the infinite number of tiny perpetual motion machines that are electrons spinning around their nuclei is to freeze them to absolute zero. the problem with permanent magnet motors is that there are so many kooks blathering their ill-conceived and unproven contraptions all over the internet in the hope for patent royalties that any promising technology in the field will be drowned out. it would also face a direct assault from the full might of all the mega corporations with vested interest in the status quo.