if the US refuses to pay China back for its debt, the rest of the world will abandon the almight greenback, and think of where most manufactured goods in the US come from
I'm not sure if my education was wrong, but I'd have to stretch to the point of lying to say that ~$6 trillion was about equal to ~$15 trillion.
i've seen sources that say anything between 2015 to 2020... we're already at 2013, so based on predictions he is actually correct that the GDP of China is almost equal to that of the US... why? because of the difference in the rate of increase between the two countries... the rate of increase in the Chinese GDP is much higher than the US... and if you look at GDP by PPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29), China is actually 11.3b vs 15b for the US, so it depends how GDP is measured. in any case, China is easily catching up to the US and its not a question of "if" it will overtake but "when".
Yeah, because less money circulating is a great way to stimulate the economy.
if the money was circulating in the US you would be right, but if US workers are too expensive the money circulates overseas
Vietnam, hahaha. You have either been trolled, crutchy my friend, or you are bat-shit insane and didn't read his steaming shitpile of a post.
Vietnam is close to China, so while I can't be as sure about this one as the previous points, I wouldn't count it out merely because it seems a little far fetched
the good thing about the english language is that it has become so bastardized with exceptions to the various rules that you can pretty much do as you like and few would question... i'm sure there are plenty of sources that say you are right about the misuse of an apostrophe in a possessive pronoun, but there are also probably as many sources that claim you're full of shit, so at what point does some old rule become so fucked up by exceptions that is't no longer a rule?
"i before e, except after c, except for the exceptions"... or when you don't feel like it or you forget
Of course, there is the espionage aspect as well which both Russia and China are champions with.
just think of all those "made in china" microchips that could be remotely disabled in a western world that wouldn't function without them... sun tzu would be proud
without Stalin the whole world would be speaking German and saluting Nazi flags... plenty of people outside the US would say that the US is governed by one of the most tyrannical regimes in history, and it has nothing to do with the President or Congress, which would be seen as mere puppets for the corporate lobbyists who fund and manipulate all levels of the US government for their own greedy purpose
You really think China will be there to help them? China has had the ability to put a nuclear icbm on any point on the earth for 30 years. They won't give NK a missile, but you think they'll risk destabilizing their own country for them?
China could pretty much disable the US economy with sanctions so it wouldn't need to waste any nukes
the US depends on China a lot more than China depends on the US
no actually your argument is pitful because you're talking about "terrorists" and "nationalists".... not the same thing by any measure
a terrorist action isn't akin to an act of war by a sovereign nation
if the pakistani or irish governments bombed india and ireland, there would be no doubts that pakistan and ireland would be smoking holes in the ground (and if you think india and england just ignore attacks by terrorist or nationalist groups you're just an idiot)
the middle east is a better example... what happens when palestinians send rockets into israel (palestine being closer to a fledgling nation than a terrorist or nationalist group), israel sends in tanks... the difference is that there is a clear and obvious target (palestine/gaza), whereas terrorist groups can't just be bombed like any country.
can you imagine what would happen if a sovereign nation (such as NK) was even suspected of an act of war against the US (lets not even worry about whether it could be proven by the ICC, which the US isn't a party to anyway); the US would smash the absolute crap out of it, being sure to make up all sorts of false intelligence about WMDs and whatnot along the way.
the ONLY way to have any level of military operational success against the warmongering US with its massive arsenal of multi-trillion dollar weapons of mass destruction (don't worry about whether your citizens are impoverished or that the national debt is unsustainable)... is to strike first with nuclear weapons in a way as to inflict maximum casualties and hide in your bunker while your citizens are assured a fiery death from a second strike. most nuclear nations are too "civilized" to allow this, hence why MAD has been successful in the past, but you get a country like NK or Iran where citizens are treated like cattle, and the US has a reason to really shit its pants.
any country that attacks the US is guaranteed total annihilation... the only question is what country would fire nuclear weapons at the US without any regard for that consequence? I would bet the Pentagon fears NK more than any other country (Iran would be a close second), not because they either have or want nukes, but because of the possibility of their use.
sounds more like the real worry is that if the US pisses NK off enough, NK may actually have the balls (and a sufficient lack of concern for self-preservation) to unleash cans of nuclear whoop ass across the pacific.
the reason why this could become a real possibility is that the NK leadership would all be hiding in their nuclear-proof bunkers and would likely not give a rats about its citizens on the surface, so the traditional concept of MAD wouldn't apply to NK
what i find baffling is that companies pay amazon and google to advertise, whilst even if i spend all my time on truck forums the likelihood of me clicking on any truck tires banner ad is 0.000%
"shit fit"? please... i used similar theme to the message i was replying to, which means you're actually admitting YOU had a shit fit before me
just because you don't believe me doesn't mean its not true, and indicating my professional status was part of a reply to a thread so it must be taken into context with that thread.... in which justification was not required (i probably didn't even have to indicate my professional status so it doesn't really matter either way).
unfortunately (for anyone else reading this), apk has an apparently uncontrollable tendency to ignore context and spread his lies and filth all over slashdot (as you may already be well aware of). he is slashdot's most infamous troll, and is known for destroying entire conversations with his rediculous pastes containing links to articles that he has never understood or even read fully (often the articles he links to don't actually support the claims he makes).
apk's spew of garbage, as much as it can be quite entertaining, is still garbage and should not be taken seriously. simply reading his posts will probably make this pretty obvious anyway because his posts read like they're written by somone in grade school.
he tries his best to spread FUD about linux and open source (he tries soooo hard with all his repetitious pasting) but alas nobody really cares or even reads it all so even his FUD isn't FUD because nobody takes it seriously. he's like a toothless tiger, desperate for credibility and acknowledgement in a forum where everyone knows how rediculous, childish and stupid he is because he continually displays evidence of it in the permant record that is/.
anyway, if you ever come across his garbage in threads, don't be too concerned to say "hi douchebag, fixed that python bug yet?".
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if the US refuses to pay China back for its debt, the rest of the world will abandon the almight greenback, and think of where most manufactured goods in the US come from
have another go
I'm not sure if my education was wrong, but I'd have to stretch to the point of lying to say that ~$6 trillion was about equal to ~$15 trillion.
i've seen sources that say anything between 2015 to 2020... we're already at 2013, so based on predictions he is actually correct that the GDP of China is almost equal to that of the US... why? because of the difference in the rate of increase between the two countries... the rate of increase in the Chinese GDP is much higher than the US... and if you look at GDP by PPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29), China is actually 11.3b vs 15b for the US, so it depends how GDP is measured. in any case, China is easily catching up to the US and its not a question of "if" it will overtake but "when".
Yeah, because less money circulating is a great way to stimulate the economy.
if the money was circulating in the US you would be right, but if US workers are too expensive the money circulates overseas
Vietnam, hahaha. You have either been trolled, crutchy my friend, or you are bat-shit insane and didn't read his steaming shitpile of a post.
Vietnam is close to China, so while I can't be as sure about this one as the previous points, I wouldn't count it out merely because it seems a little far fetched
...like to try again "friend"?
yeah cos Russia, China, India, etc are just full of famers with sticks and stones...
you've obviously never seen the DreamWorks film "Antz"
i'm pretty sure they have a decent swathe of US debt as well... but why let minor facts get in the way of a good story....
"cos weee got the bomb.... ok"
the rich merely have further to fall if the economy collapses
i bet that's what the morons in charge of the US treasury would think too... ignorance really is bliss
actually he made some good points... too bad they all apparently whooshed you
nah fuck that... how about "survival of the fittest"
...which means we'll all be speaking chinese in less than 20 years
beam me up scotty!
the good thing about the english language is that it has become so bastardized with exceptions to the various rules that you can pretty much do as you like and few would question... i'm sure there are plenty of sources that say you are right about the misuse of an apostrophe in a possessive pronoun, but there are also probably as many sources that claim you're full of shit, so at what point does some old rule become so fucked up by exceptions that is't no longer a rule?
"i before e, except after c, except for the exceptions"... or when you don't feel like it or you forget
South Korean cyborgs pwning Starcraft 7 world tournaments because of their mechanically-enhanced megaclicks-per-second micromanagement skills
how do i get outta this chicken shit outfit
Of course, there is the espionage aspect as well which both Russia and China are champions with.
just think of all those "made in china" microchips that could be remotely disabled in a western world that wouldn't function without them... sun tzu would be proud
China already has more than enough access to unlimited supplies of uranium in Australia
without Stalin the whole world would be speaking German and saluting Nazi flags... plenty of people outside the US would say that the US is governed by one of the most tyrannical regimes in history, and it has nothing to do with the President or Congress, which would be seen as mere puppets for the corporate lobbyists who fund and manipulate all levels of the US government for their own greedy purpose
the OP didn't say "weaker"... they said "weak" (implying near the bottom of the food chain... kind of like Afghanistan and Iraq)
I always thought their greatest weapons were fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.
I almost thought you were talking about the US, except for the bits about surprise and efficiency
You really think China will be there to help them? China has had the ability to put a nuclear icbm on any point on the earth for 30 years. They won't give NK a missile, but you think they'll risk destabilizing their own country for them?
China could pretty much disable the US economy with sanctions so it wouldn't need to waste any nukes
the US depends on China a lot more than China depends on the US
no actually your argument is pitful because you're talking about "terrorists" and "nationalists".... not the same thing by any measure
a terrorist action isn't akin to an act of war by a sovereign nation
if the pakistani or irish governments bombed india and ireland, there would be no doubts that pakistan and ireland would be smoking holes in the ground (and if you think india and england just ignore attacks by terrorist or nationalist groups you're just an idiot)
the middle east is a better example... what happens when palestinians send rockets into israel (palestine being closer to a fledgling nation than a terrorist or nationalist group), israel sends in tanks... the difference is that there is a clear and obvious target (palestine/gaza), whereas terrorist groups can't just be bombed like any country.
can you imagine what would happen if a sovereign nation (such as NK) was even suspected of an act of war against the US (lets not even worry about whether it could be proven by the ICC, which the US isn't a party to anyway); the US would smash the absolute crap out of it, being sure to make up all sorts of false intelligence about WMDs and whatnot along the way.
the ONLY way to have any level of military operational success against the warmongering US with its massive arsenal of multi-trillion dollar weapons of mass destruction (don't worry about whether your citizens are impoverished or that the national debt is unsustainable)... is to strike first with nuclear weapons in a way as to inflict maximum casualties and hide in your bunker while your citizens are assured a fiery death from a second strike. most nuclear nations are too "civilized" to allow this, hence why MAD has been successful in the past, but you get a country like NK or Iran where citizens are treated like cattle, and the US has a reason to really shit its pants.
any country that attacks the US is guaranteed total annihilation... the only question is what country would fire nuclear weapons at the US without any regard for that consequence? I would bet the Pentagon fears NK more than any other country (Iran would be a close second), not because they either have or want nukes, but because of the possibility of their use.
sounds more like the real worry is that if the US pisses NK off enough, NK may actually have the balls (and a sufficient lack of concern for self-preservation) to unleash cans of nuclear whoop ass across the pacific.
the reason why this could become a real possibility is that the NK leadership would all be hiding in their nuclear-proof bunkers and would likely not give a rats about its citizens on the surface, so the traditional concept of MAD wouldn't apply to NK
not saying much for yourself then, since the supposed noob found a bug in your code... you're not really doing yourself any favors
sore loser
what i find baffling is that companies pay amazon and google to advertise, whilst even if i spend all my time on truck forums the likelihood of me clicking on any truck tires banner ad is 0.000%
just unplug the blue cord when you locate kiddy porn movies on your hdd
"shit fit"? please... i used similar theme to the message i was replying to, which means you're actually admitting YOU had a shit fit before me
/.
just because you don't believe me doesn't mean its not true, and indicating my professional status was part of a reply to a thread so it must be taken into context with that thread.... in which justification was not required (i probably didn't even have to indicate my professional status so it doesn't really matter either way).
unfortunately (for anyone else reading this), apk has an apparently uncontrollable tendency to ignore context and spread his lies and filth all over slashdot (as you may already be well aware of). he is slashdot's most infamous troll, and is known for destroying entire conversations with his rediculous pastes containing links to articles that he has never understood or even read fully (often the articles he links to don't actually support the claims he makes).
apk's spew of garbage, as much as it can be quite entertaining, is still garbage and should not be taken seriously. simply reading his posts will probably make this pretty obvious anyway because his posts read like they're written by somone in grade school.
he tries his best to spread FUD about linux and open source (he tries soooo hard with all his repetitious pasting) but alas nobody really cares or even reads it all so even his FUD isn't FUD because nobody takes it seriously. he's like a toothless tiger, desperate for credibility and acknowledgement in a forum where everyone knows how rediculous, childish and stupid he is because he continually displays evidence of it in the permant record that is
anyway, if you ever come across his garbage in threads, don't be too concerned to say "hi douchebag, fixed that python bug yet?".
cheers