hahahaha you still haven't fixed that bug on line 5... can you at least indent it so you don't look like a total douchebag rather than pasting the same bug-ridden formatting in every one of these posts
there's a lot of people who misuse formatting features of both OpenOffice and Microsoft Office, and slight differences in each package will likely always result in quirks (perhaps this is why Word doesn't read ODF so as not to look bad when ODF document formatting gets all screwy - the reverse of your complaint).
for example, using spaces to align text, with a Microsoft proprietary font, and then opening the same Word document in OpenOffice and wondering why the alignment is off (because the font substitution doesn't match exactly). these people shouldn't be hired for word processing anyway, and if a document must be sent to someone with the assurance that the layout is the same, then the document should be exported to PDF anyway (OpenOffice handles PDF but Word requires a plugin or external Acrobat/CutePDF/etc). i'm an engineer and a lot of my reports have specific formatting and layout requirements to be met, but i've been trained to use the right features (such as tabs, indents, line spacing, etc). the types of issues you are complaining about would be the same between any two different word processors (such as WordPerfect and Word) and has more to do with font substitution and formatting laziness/ignorance on the part of the user than the software.
if everyone you deal with uses Microsoft Word and formatting/layout of your documents is important and you are lazy/ignorant of proper formatting techniques and you need to use Microsoft proprietary fonts, then sure it makes more sense for you to go with Microsoft Word, but the likelihood that the german city council meets all of those conditions in low, and even if they did it still looks bad for them anyway and their priorities are still wrong (they should be investing in training and looking at why they need proprietary fonts).
Spreadsheets shouldn't be much of an issue though, as formatting is much more limited (if you use a spreadsheet for word processing you're already doing it wrong).
and finally, this is slashdot, so i can accuse anyone of anything. it is obviously my opinion that there is corruption. if you disagree, that's fine, but i don't need to convince you with evidence or anything. if you're interested in past business practices of microsoft, try groklaw, otherwise google is your friend.
Linux does all the things you mention and more.... oh hang on you're a M$ fanboi so you're stuck using Windows.
don't let me interrupt your dreaming then...
depends how genralised your assumptions are... i can assume you are a moron or i could assume you are young and ignorant, which therefore means you are a moron... the former has fewer assumptions but is no more useful than the latter, except that i do actually think you are a moron
except you need sales to fund the new product development... anyone can build new things if someone else is paying, but a viable capitalist enterprise must hand over a decent percentage of its income to shareholders, which limits the available funds for development/expansion
otherwise they would already be doing what you are suggesting
The only time I've ever felt oppressed by things MS does
most people feel oppressed when they have to hand over an exorbitant amount of money when they feel they have no choice, and for most people that perceived lack of choice stems from microsoft's business tactics over the past 20-odd years (OEM bribery and extortion, monopolization, spreading FUD about FOSS, baseless lawsuits, rediculous software patents, etc).
its not that there is any demand that the german city council use FOSS. its that the actual users likely have absolutely no say and that the whole process it likely being corrupted by Microsoft, because that's what it does.
People don't not use OpenOffice because it sucks (it isn't "objectively inferior", which is itself an oxymoron, and it does plenty of things better than MS Office). Ribbons suck, which Means Microsoft Office 2007+ sucks, and more people would use and appreciate OpenOffice if they had a chance to use it. If anything, the german city council staff are being demanded that they switch to Microsoft products because of inflences they have no control over, but of course you wouldn't have anything against that sort of oppression would you.
yes... they type with special "government fonts" and use "government layouts" which are impossible for us plebs to comprehend, but there is a special department in Microsoft that has been specifically trained to understand the special needs of beureaucratic government processes (especially "word processes"), and they are here to save the poor German council from itself.
its too bad the only excuse apparent from the summary is the "divergence of the development community", which seems like a piss poor excuse for switching from free software to paid.
and TFA is even worse...
using OpenOffice for word processing alone is not possible, the council said, adding that they estimated that only 80 percent of the word processing could be done using the open source suite. "With spreadsheets and presentations this percentage is significantly lower,"
if they can't get word processing done in OpenOffice, perhaps they should check their keyboard connections or hire staff that aren't complete morons because they will likely also have difficulties with Microsoft Word
i wonder if they have actually compared the number of developers working on either of LibreOffice or OpenOffice with Microsoft Office. i would think that either of the free office development teams would be comparable to Microsoft's, especially given the lack of financial or geographic restrictions for involvement in FOSS projects.
i know that the real reasons have nothing to do with the software and everything to do with bribery, but surely there should be a trigger at some point for a higher level investigation of corruption
excuses yes, but only on the part of the idiots in the city of Freiburg council
oh and i wasn't comparing the effects of gun laws in australia and america, i was comparing gun owners (there is no fundamental difference between a gun owner in america and in australia)... they are both morons... there is a difference in gun laws though... it might be possible to compare similar sized cities in australia and the USA, and i'm sure in that case you would find that australians are inherently safer, not because of any difference in people (we are all much the same underneath), but the difference in what people are permitted to get away with. any cultural or attitude difference with respect to guns would have no doubt stemmed from the long time differences in gun laws
in other words, for you to assess the impact of gun law introduction, it would only be worth comparing statistics for the same place before and after, and it would be completely useless to compare washington and tucson at any point because they are fundamentally different... but anyway time to troll elsewhere:)
If you banned guns in Tucson, the streets would still be pretty safe. If you legalized guns in Washington, the streets would still be quite dangerous
you're previous post arguing that gun bans don't make washington safer and liberal gun laws don't make tucson any more dangerous was pretty pointless if you're now saying the danger level has more to do with factors other than gun laws
no, simply that IE (big dick) works (feels) better in Windows (limited pussy) than in other OS's (pussy that's too small for it)
the analogy wasn't about size of the browser - it was an (albeit lame) attempt to highlight that a browser doesn't have to work for all OS's to make it a good browser for one OS
and as far as number of available pussies for IE (or any other Windows-only browser), there are still more than enough to make it viable
agree... i feel sorry for the foolish op who assumed he has technical knowledge.
ahh that explains it... he's apparently a Senior System Engineer/Architect (inferiority complex much)
who qualifies themself on slashdot anyway? qualifications aren't required for trolling or pointless arguments... maybe he got confused and thought this was where intelligent conversation occurs
that's like trying to argue that you can fuck pussies of all sizes because you have a small dick, whereas a guy with a big dick is limited... it may be technically true but...
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hahahaha you still haven't fixed that bug on line 5... can you at least indent it so you don't look like a total douchebag rather than pasting the same bug-ridden formatting in every one of these posts
how many providers of any cloud service actually reach anywhere near their advertised 5 or 6 nine availability?
QOS in terms of availability is mostly just marketing hype
there's a lot of people who misuse formatting features of both OpenOffice and Microsoft Office, and slight differences in each package will likely always result in quirks (perhaps this is why Word doesn't read ODF so as not to look bad when ODF document formatting gets all screwy - the reverse of your complaint).
for example, using spaces to align text, with a Microsoft proprietary font, and then opening the same Word document in OpenOffice and wondering why the alignment is off (because the font substitution doesn't match exactly). these people shouldn't be hired for word processing anyway, and if a document must be sent to someone with the assurance that the layout is the same, then the document should be exported to PDF anyway (OpenOffice handles PDF but Word requires a plugin or external Acrobat/CutePDF/etc). i'm an engineer and a lot of my reports have specific formatting and layout requirements to be met, but i've been trained to use the right features (such as tabs, indents, line spacing, etc). the types of issues you are complaining about would be the same between any two different word processors (such as WordPerfect and Word) and has more to do with font substitution and formatting laziness/ignorance on the part of the user than the software.
if everyone you deal with uses Microsoft Word and formatting/layout of your documents is important and you are lazy/ignorant of proper formatting techniques and you need to use Microsoft proprietary fonts, then sure it makes more sense for you to go with Microsoft Word, but the likelihood that the german city council meets all of those conditions in low, and even if they did it still looks bad for them anyway and their priorities are still wrong (they should be investing in training and looking at why they need proprietary fonts).
Spreadsheets shouldn't be much of an issue though, as formatting is much more limited (if you use a spreadsheet for word processing you're already doing it wrong).
and finally, this is slashdot, so i can accuse anyone of anything. it is obviously my opinion that there is corruption. if you disagree, that's fine, but i don't need to convince you with evidence or anything. if you're interested in past business practices of microsoft, try groklaw, otherwise google is your friend.
google perpetual motion and maybe you'll begin to understand my sig... not that i'll hold my breath
you obviously don't know a lot about the laws of physics
engineers take responsibility for the work they do (and cop the flak when it goes wrong)
scientists just make shit up and if it goes wrong... well its all in the name of science
NO FUCKING RIBBONS.
why are you using anything but Linux then?
Linux does all the things you mention and more.... oh hang on you're a M$ fanboi so you're stuck using Windows.
don't let me interrupt your dreaming then...
hahahahaha "significant minority"... could possibly make sense but still sounds funny
depends how genralised your assumptions are... i can assume you are a moron or i could assume you are young and ignorant, which therefore means you are a moron... the former has fewer assumptions but is no more useful than the latter, except that i do actually think you are a moron
except you need sales to fund the new product development... anyone can build new things if someone else is paying, but a viable capitalist enterprise must hand over a decent percentage of its income to shareholders, which limits the available funds for development/expansion
otherwise they would already be doing what you are suggesting
The only time I've ever felt oppressed by things MS does
most people feel oppressed when they have to hand over an exorbitant amount of money when they feel they have no choice, and for most people that perceived lack of choice stems from microsoft's business tactics over the past 20-odd years (OEM bribery and extortion, monopolization, spreading FUD about FOSS, baseless lawsuits, rediculous software patents, etc).
its not that there is any demand that the german city council use FOSS. its that the actual users likely have absolutely no say and that the whole process it likely being corrupted by Microsoft, because that's what it does.
People don't not use OpenOffice because it sucks (it isn't "objectively inferior", which is itself an oxymoron, and it does plenty of things better than MS Office). Ribbons suck, which Means Microsoft Office 2007+ sucks, and more people would use and appreciate OpenOffice if they had a chance to use it. If anything, the german city council staff are being demanded that they switch to Microsoft products because of inflences they have no control over, but of course you wouldn't have anything against that sort of oppression would you.
yes... they type with special "government fonts" and use "government layouts" which are impossible for us plebs to comprehend, but there is a special department in Microsoft that has been specifically trained to understand the special needs of beureaucratic government processes (especially "word processes"), and they are here to save the poor German council from itself.
Heil Microsoft!
and TFA is even worse...
using OpenOffice for word processing alone is not possible, the council said, adding that they estimated that only 80 percent of the word processing could be done using the open source suite. "With spreadsheets and presentations this percentage is significantly lower,"
if they can't get word processing done in OpenOffice, perhaps they should check their keyboard connections or hire staff that aren't complete morons because they will likely also have difficulties with Microsoft Word
i wonder if they have actually compared the number of developers working on either of LibreOffice or OpenOffice with Microsoft Office. i would think that either of the free office development teams would be comparable to Microsoft's, especially given the lack of financial or geographic restrictions for involvement in FOSS projects.
i know that the real reasons have nothing to do with the software and everything to do with bribery, but surely there should be a trigger at some point for a higher level investigation of corruption
excuses yes, but only on the part of the idiots in the city of Freiburg council
oh and i wasn't comparing the effects of gun laws in australia and america, i was comparing gun owners (there is no fundamental difference between a gun owner in america and in australia)... they are both morons... there is a difference in gun laws though... it might be possible to compare similar sized cities in australia and the USA, and i'm sure in that case you would find that australians are inherently safer, not because of any difference in people (we are all much the same underneath), but the difference in what people are permitted to get away with. any cultural or attitude difference with respect to guns would have no doubt stemmed from the long time differences in gun laws
in other words, for you to assess the impact of gun law introduction, it would only be worth comparing statistics for the same place before and after, and it would be completely useless to compare washington and tucson at any point because they are fundamentally different... but anyway time to troll elsewhere :)
If you banned guns in Tucson, the streets would still be pretty safe. If you legalized guns in Washington, the streets would still be quite dangerous
you're previous post arguing that gun bans don't make washington safer and liberal gun laws don't make tucson any more dangerous was pretty pointless if you're now saying the danger level has more to do with factors other than gun laws
no, simply that IE (big dick) works (feels) better in Windows (limited pussy) than in other OS's (pussy that's too small for it)
the analogy wasn't about size of the browser - it was an (albeit lame) attempt to highlight that a browser doesn't have to work for all OS's to make it a good browser for one OS
and as far as number of available pussies for IE (or any other Windows-only browser), there are still more than enough to make it viable
if both ends ping each other at the same time the pings might collide and form a black hole... it is 2012 after all
there's this exiled prince from Gliese 317 who's asking for my help regarding some sort of currency transfer
what!!! i've already patented interplanetary money laundering... expect a visit from my attorney
i think your karma just dropped
agree... i feel sorry for the foolish op who assumed he has technical knowledge.
ahh that explains it... he's apparently a Senior System Engineer/Architect (inferiority complex much)
who qualifies themself on slashdot anyway? qualifications aren't required for trolling or pointless arguments... maybe he got confused and thought this was where intelligent conversation occurs
if IE was open sourced the world would see how much of Firefox is really ripped off... not gunna happen
well stop using it then or you'll wear it out
that's like trying to argue that you can fuck pussies of all sizes because you have a small dick, whereas a guy with a big dick is limited... it may be technically true but...