well, i'm shocked as to why america has to use brute force to get anywhere in the world, being as friendy and understanding you obviously are:)
when the greenback loses its global reserve status (it will eventually), you may find that america literally becomes a mud infested shit hole, because your debt is the only thing keeping you afloat.
no actually i visited wikipedia before posting to find out what proportional representation is, which i found out is assigning of seats based on percentage of votes the party has won (which is another way of saying what you said in your first sentence "representation in the legislature is proportional to the support for particular views in the electorate". i don't care how popular a party is overall, i only care about who represents me in my electorate, so if the majority of voters in my electorate vote for a particular candidate, but that candidate doesn't get elected due to some bullshit excuse for democracy, then it aint democracy.
also how the hell do you figure my idea would be a violation of the HTML spec?
all google would be doing is constructing valid http requests based on an index of IP addresses and virtual host names
do you even know what a http request looks like? try websniffer.net
the bit about eventually changing the URL scheme was actually a proposal to eventually revise the HTML spec. it is unlikely that browser vendors (except maybe microsoft) would ever support non-standard URL schemes
and the "inherent security vulnerabilities" that got lost in the rest of your bullshit... i can't even think of what you might be trying to get at there. maybe phishing, but that already happens; phishing an IP address would be no more plausible than phishing http://login.mybank.com.dfh.it/ (probably less plausible actually because of increased difficulty in getting a similar IP address to the target). i would be interested to hear your explanation:)
concentrates it in the hands of several profit oriented corporations
last time i checked profit driven competition was kind of the back bone of western economies, so privatisation of a simple internet addressing scheme won't cause total chaos and anarchy. also, google and bing are already the primary internet addressing system for most internet users anyway. to by far most users, nothing would change.
a gigantic namespace collision fault
really!? this almost made me laugh. unfortunately your bullshit was kinda overshadowed by the fact that IP addresses and virtual host names are the infrastructure underneath the DNS already. if there were any (even remote) possibility of any kind of collision as a result of the use of IP addresses and virtual host names, the internet would already be fucked.
people being able to remember the IP addresses of every site they ever visit, or to rely on a profit oriented search engine to remember it for them
except that people already use favourites and search engines. how many internet users do you think remember any DNS addresses beyond google.com, facebook.com and goatse.cx? maybe their bank address if they are really security conscious (though I would bet that many have a favorite for that too). have you looked at the URLs of many pages and sites on the net lately? much of the web is driven by CMSs, with a myriad of GET and POST parameters. to get to this thread for example, I would have to remember "http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3015393". pfft! yeah right. maybe you can remember jibberish like that, but most would have better luck remembering their social security number. how many people remember all their mates phone numbers? what about passwords? do you really think that internet users are so inept that they wouldn't be able to figure out to use any new numerical internet addressing system? you are truly a moron
ICANN isn't a non-profit organisation. all they care about is profit.
all you seem to care about is sounding like the dipshit that you are
So when people make blanket claims about "The Corporations"
... they are referring to legally separate entities (many of which consist of a pyramid of subsidiaries and shell companies) that excel at shielding their employees and shareholders from liability. its the whole reason why corporations exist at all... to limit liability.
its not irrational fear or blanket statements. its just basic business. corporations exist to enable people to make money and flout the law without being personally sued. just look at what happens when a company files for bankruptsy... usually the CEO gets a nice big fat golden handshake. ok he may not be the most popular guy in town, but he can merely move to a new town where money talks. credibiliy, ethics and morals aren't prerequisites for making money in this day and age. in fact as the old saying goes (and is still so true), "nice guys finish last".
the parent brought up hate laws in a compleyly transparent attempt to change the subject
i sort of got the impression that what was said in the op (perhaps not clearly worded) was that it was invalid to compare corporations with [insert race here] because of corporations being impersonal as they are, or in other words corporations don't deserve any protection from racial descrimination type arguments (or laws) because they don't represent anything that could be discriminated against
there's almost no technological development resulting from it
that's what a lot of bong smoking hippies thought about apollo too - during the apollo program. it was only after apollo that many ofthe benefits trickled out into society.
there will be technological developments being made as a result of the current wars, it's just that society isn't privy to them yet (due to their military/corporate value, classification, etc). think telecommunications, satellite technology, surveillance/cameras, computer software and hardware, materials, etc.
And what good does another cold war do?
well, the first cold war gave rise to the apollo and soyuz programs. i guess that was good. if i had to guess, the next cold war (perhaps between china and the US) may serve up another space race, with all its associated scientific and technological spinoffs. if you think about it, for all the good that apollo gave rise to, it was ended fairly abruptly after the russians were beaten. the kind of money that was spent going to the moon just doesn't get spent on solely scientific endevours. look at the US defense budget. wars always get fully funded, and the next cold war will be no different. if you hypothesized a cure for cancer, you would get more money to develop it by proposing it to the military as a biological weapon.
tons of valuable minerals in asteroids
there are valuable minerals under my house too (i live on top of the world's largest lignite reserve, a critical ingredient in currently economically viable base load electricity generation and used to generate about 6500 MW of base load electricity within line of sight of my house) but it doesn't imply the sort of gold rush that occurred in the americas, or the sort of investment in oil that we see in the middle east. the key is that the minerals must be guaranteed to make the investor a crapload of profit (as in revenue less expenses, including those for mining and hauling it). in space, gold may not be enough, but eventually there will be something (in the remotely predictable future it many be uranium). if asteroids were known to have a mineral that could make bags of money that couldn't be more easily made from known deposits here on earth, there would already be asteroids being mined.
regarding energy, there is also potentially enough sources of energy here on earth for a great many years yet. the problem isn't availability, its investment. it costs millions of dollars to build a power station, and many power stations don't get built without significant government backing, and lately governments seem to be pretty crappy at anything related to finances, so leaving the prospect of spending megabucks for new power stations to the next elected government seems like a more politically profitable (however shortsighted) policy. unfortunately the end result is not many new power stations get built.
if push really came to shove, every house (in Australia at least) could be outfitted with solar panels for electricity and hot water and many of our energy woes would be reduced significantly. Australia has some of the largest supplies of uranium, coal, sunlight, etc in the world, so if you find yourself running out of energy perhaps you should come visit:)
Criminals look for the biggest target they can find
problem with argument is that linux represents a decent portion of the biggest fish... including corporate datacenters and web services, and this has been the case for a long time
so what if there is a few million consumer boxes with windows on them?
at best they represent botnet hosts that can be used to attack more worthy targets
hacking is more of an important issue for linux admins because of its prolific use in server applications. an idiot managing a linux server could easily open himself up to a hacker, but he would still be fairly safe from viruses
His comment was about irrational fear, stereotyping, stupid generalizations and other small minded ways ol looking at things
if you're talking about radiumsoup's comment "ah, yes... "the" corporations, much like "the" [insert racial stereotype here]", his comment is actually pretty stupid and pointless. maybe it could even be implied that he thought Nyder was taking a poke at Jews, but from his comment I doubt radiumsoup gave it that much thought.
small mindedness is honestly believing that corporations don't have US politics by the balls. corporations aren't people and they can't vote, but they don't need to vote because they just buy what they wanted from elected representatives... its called lobbying (with bribery thrown in for good measure)
there is plenty of irrational fear, stereotyping, etc in the world, but there is also abundance of ignorance and gullibility
ever heard the phrase "money talks and bullshit walks"? that pretty much sums up american politics
if a candidate running for my electorate really sucks, and nobody voted for him, but other people in his party elsewhere got voted in, why the hell should some moron get to govern a district in which nobody voted for him?
"proportional representation" isn't democracy, it's just a fancy name for mob rule
not necessarily in space though. they may turn out to be a friendly totalitarian regime in space
i actually think there is a remote possibility that the chinese may open up access to space for the rest of us. not in the next 10 years, but eventually. while the rest of the world struggles with corporate gluttony and government financial incompetence, china with its cheap, smart and hardworking minions (in their billions) may just have the capacity, tenacity and resources to overcome the obstacles of space access
as much as the "free world" may criticise china for being a totalitarian regime, can you imagine trying to govern a population of over a billion people with anything less than at least a somewhat iron fist? the rest of the world most likely can't even imagine such a population. as a simple example, how hard it would be to look after 50 toddlers in a daycare center if you couldn't discipline them without going through a tribunal process? i'm not saying chinese are like toddlers, and i'm not trying to justify inhumane treatment or anything, but there is no doubt keeping control of a nation of 1.3 billion people is no mean feat.
a totalitarian regime government is more likely to achieve results in space than a government which changes its priorities after every election. i'm sure democracy has its pros, but unfortunately achieving long term objectives isn't really one of them. you might think the moon landings contradicts this, but the moon landing was merely a propaganda weapon in a cold war, and was never meant to achieve any long term objectives in space science or exploration.
apollo was a military program. if you really want technological development, start a new cold war with the russians or chinese. you don't even have to go to space.
even from the measly conventional wars going on there is technological development, but as for apollo there is a bit of a delay till such developments make it into consumer goods.
if you ever want to get humans into space, there must be a financial incentive. if anyone ever discovers a valuable mineral on the moon (analgous to gold in the americas or oil in the middle east), you will get corporations and governments alike scambling to get machines there to mine it, and cheap disposable labor to operate those machines. till then, keep dreaming.
as far as aeronautics goes, nasa is pwned by the faa, who would be sure to drive up the cost of any aeronautics project 100 fold with regulatory red tape. red tape is what the faa does best.
NASA has sucked at anything space-related since the collapse of the USSR
their measly budget is wasted trying to maintain a hugely overpopulated bureaucracy and academia
there's a lot of oil money in the muslim world, so why not reach out to muslims?
this overreaction is typical american hypocracy, where dropping bombs on other countries is perfectly acceptable, but dropping a religious comment is considered a capital offence
i am just so impressed with how much a virus-infested malware magnet windows has become, whilst linux users don't even need a virus scanner. i'm so glad that microsoft got rid of that pesky start menu, i mean why would they want to retain such a familiar interface element that has been a fairly consistent part of the windows user experience for nearly twenty years? microsoft's training partners must be creaming their pants at the prospect of the whole world needing to be retrained to use a computer all over again. the new metro ui may be the best thing ever invented for the pc, since it may lead to companies reevaluating their dependence on windows and office and giving more consideration to linux and openoffice.org. who wants to keep paying for software when they don't have to? i sure dont!
was there anything in my op that was factually incorrect? just because you may not like the idea of not using DNS doesn't make it stupid or insane, but maybe its just because dumbshits like you don't even comprehend the idea in the original post and are merely criticizing my ability to dumb it down to your level of understanding
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US politicians can be bought easily enough. the stupid morons just don't realise it doesn't work the other way around
the cloud is just a fad. cloud morons are just lazy IT staff intent on duckshoving their responsibility onto someone else.
hardware is cheap. people are more expensive. contracting and outsourcing is the most expensive, and the cloud is part of the latter.
being dense appears to come naturally for you
well, i'm shocked as to why america has to use brute force to get anywhere in the world, being as friendy and understanding you obviously are :)
when the greenback loses its global reserve status (it will eventually), you may find that america literally becomes a mud infested shit hole, because your debt is the only thing keeping you afloat.
no actually i visited wikipedia before posting to find out what proportional representation is, which i found out is assigning of seats based on percentage of votes the party has won (which is another way of saying what you said in your first sentence "representation in the legislature is proportional to the support for particular views in the electorate". i don't care how popular a party is overall, i only care about who represents me in my electorate, so if the majority of voters in my electorate vote for a particular candidate, but that candidate doesn't get elected due to some bullshit excuse for democracy, then it aint democracy.
websniffer.net
obviously i mean web-sniffer.net
perfect example of the fallability of DNS right there
also how the hell do you figure my idea would be a violation of the HTML spec?
:)
all google would be doing is constructing valid http requests based on an index of IP addresses and virtual host names
do you even know what a http request looks like? try websniffer.net
the bit about eventually changing the URL scheme was actually a proposal to eventually revise the HTML spec. it is unlikely that browser vendors (except maybe microsoft) would ever support non-standard URL schemes
and the "inherent security vulnerabilities" that got lost in the rest of your bullshit... i can't even think of what you might be trying to get at there. maybe phishing, but that already happens; phishing an IP address would be no more plausible than phishing http://login.mybank.com.dfh.it/ (probably less plausible actually because of increased difficulty in getting a similar IP address to the target). i would be interested to hear your explanation
concentrates it in the hands of several profit oriented corporations
last time i checked profit driven competition was kind of the back bone of western economies, so privatisation of a simple internet addressing scheme won't cause total chaos and anarchy. also, google and bing are already the primary internet addressing system for most internet users anyway. to by far most users, nothing would change.
a gigantic namespace collision fault
really!? this almost made me laugh. unfortunately your bullshit was kinda overshadowed by the fact that IP addresses and virtual host names are the infrastructure underneath the DNS already. if there were any (even remote) possibility of any kind of collision as a result of the use of IP addresses and virtual host names, the internet would already be fucked.
people being able to remember the IP addresses of every site they ever visit, or to rely on a profit oriented search engine to remember it for them
except that people already use favourites and search engines. how many internet users do you think remember any DNS addresses beyond google.com, facebook.com and goatse.cx? maybe their bank address if they are really security conscious (though I would bet that many have a favorite for that too). have you looked at the URLs of many pages and sites on the net lately? much of the web is driven by CMSs, with a myriad of GET and POST parameters. to get to this thread for example, I would have to remember "http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3015393". pfft! yeah right. maybe you can remember jibberish like that, but most would have better luck remembering their social security number. how many people remember all their mates phone numbers? what about passwords? do you really think that internet users are so inept that they wouldn't be able to figure out to use any new numerical internet addressing system? you are truly a moron
ICANN isn't a non-profit organisation. all they care about is profit.
all you seem to care about is sounding like the dipshit that you are
wow! do you over react like this to everything? i feel sorry for you
i could pick apart your bullshit piece by piece, but i fear i may cause you to have an aneurysm
the difference is that in the case of proportional representation, the mob is the political party, whereas in a democracy the mob is the people
i'll take democracy over proportional representation anyday
if you want your local representative to be decided by government, maybe you should try living in china
So when people make blanket claims about "The Corporations"
its not irrational fear or blanket statements. its just basic business. corporations exist to enable people to make money and flout the law without being personally sued. just look at what happens when a company files for bankruptsy... usually the CEO gets a nice big fat golden handshake. ok he may not be the most popular guy in town, but he can merely move to a new town where money talks. credibiliy, ethics and morals aren't prerequisites for making money in this day and age. in fact as the old saying goes (and is still so true), "nice guys finish last".
the parent brought up hate laws in a compleyly transparent attempt to change the subject
i sort of got the impression that what was said in the op (perhaps not clearly worded) was that it was invalid to compare corporations with [insert race here] because of corporations being impersonal as they are, or in other words corporations don't deserve any protection from racial descrimination type arguments (or laws) because they don't represent anything that could be discriminated against
there's almost no technological development resulting from it
that's what a lot of bong smoking hippies thought about apollo too - during the apollo program. it was only after apollo that many ofthe benefits trickled out into society.
there will be technological developments being made as a result of the current wars, it's just that society isn't privy to them yet (due to their military/corporate value, classification, etc). think telecommunications, satellite technology, surveillance/cameras, computer software and hardware, materials, etc.
And what good does another cold war do?
well, the first cold war gave rise to the apollo and soyuz programs. i guess that was good. if i had to guess, the next cold war (perhaps between china and the US) may serve up another space race, with all its associated scientific and technological spinoffs. if you think about it, for all the good that apollo gave rise to, it was ended fairly abruptly after the russians were beaten. the kind of money that was spent going to the moon just doesn't get spent on solely scientific endevours. look at the US defense budget. wars always get fully funded, and the next cold war will be no different. if you hypothesized a cure for cancer, you would get more money to develop it by proposing it to the military as a biological weapon.
tons of valuable minerals in asteroids
there are valuable minerals under my house too (i live on top of the world's largest lignite reserve, a critical ingredient in currently economically viable base load electricity generation and used to generate about 6500 MW of base load electricity within line of sight of my house) but it doesn't imply the sort of gold rush that occurred in the americas, or the sort of investment in oil that we see in the middle east. the key is that the minerals must be guaranteed to make the investor a crapload of profit (as in revenue less expenses, including those for mining and hauling it). in space, gold may not be enough, but eventually there will be something (in the remotely predictable future it many be uranium). if asteroids were known to have a mineral that could make bags of money that couldn't be more easily made from known deposits here on earth, there would already be asteroids being mined.
:)
regarding energy, there is also potentially enough sources of energy here on earth for a great many years yet. the problem isn't availability, its investment. it costs millions of dollars to build a power station, and many power stations don't get built without significant government backing, and lately governments seem to be pretty crappy at anything related to finances, so leaving the prospect of spending megabucks for new power stations to the next elected government seems like a more politically profitable (however shortsighted) policy. unfortunately the end result is not many new power stations get built.
if push really came to shove, every house (in Australia at least) could be outfitted with solar panels for electricity and hot water and many of our energy woes would be reduced significantly. Australia has some of the largest supplies of uranium, coal, sunlight, etc in the world, so if you find yourself running out of energy perhaps you should come visit
Criminals look for the biggest target they can find
problem with argument is that linux represents a decent portion of the biggest fish... including corporate datacenters and web services, and this has been the case for a long time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Servers
so what if there is a few million consumer boxes with windows on them?
at best they represent botnet hosts that can be used to attack more worthy targets
hacking is more of an important issue for linux admins because of its prolific use in server applications. an idiot managing a linux server could easily open himself up to a hacker, but he would still be fairly safe from viruses
linux malware still manages to fit neatly in a small section of a wikipedia page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Viruses#Threats
His comment was about irrational fear, stereotyping, stupid generalizations and other small minded ways ol looking at things
if you're talking about radiumsoup's comment "ah, yes... "the" corporations, much like "the" [insert racial stereotype here]", his comment is actually pretty stupid and pointless. maybe it could even be implied that he thought Nyder was taking a poke at Jews, but from his comment I doubt radiumsoup gave it that much thought.
small mindedness is honestly believing that corporations don't have US politics by the balls. corporations aren't people and they can't vote, but they don't need to vote because they just buy what they wanted from elected representatives... its called lobbying (with bribery thrown in for good measure)
there is plenty of irrational fear, stereotyping, etc in the world, but there is also abundance of ignorance and gullibility
ever heard the phrase "money talks and bullshit walks"? that pretty much sums up american politics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Myers_(politician)
if a candidate running for my electorate really sucks, and nobody voted for him, but other people in his party elsewhere got voted in, why the hell should some moron get to govern a district in which nobody voted for him?
"proportional representation" isn't democracy, it's just a fancy name for mob rule
you only need to worry about getting your family out of the country if they start spraypainting yellow stars on houses
opponent of the United States on Earth
not necessarily in space though. they may turn out to be a friendly totalitarian regime in space
i actually think there is a remote possibility that the chinese may open up access to space for the rest of us. not in the next 10 years, but eventually. while the rest of the world struggles with corporate gluttony and government financial incompetence, china with its cheap, smart and hardworking minions (in their billions) may just have the capacity, tenacity and resources to overcome the obstacles of space access
as much as the "free world" may criticise china for being a totalitarian regime, can you imagine trying to govern a population of over a billion people with anything less than at least a somewhat iron fist? the rest of the world most likely can't even imagine such a population. as a simple example, how hard it would be to look after 50 toddlers in a daycare center if you couldn't discipline them without going through a tribunal process? i'm not saying chinese are like toddlers, and i'm not trying to justify inhumane treatment or anything, but there is no doubt keeping control of a nation of 1.3 billion people is no mean feat.
a totalitarian regime government is more likely to achieve results in space than a government which changes its priorities after every election. i'm sure democracy has its pros, but unfortunately achieving long term objectives isn't really one of them. you might think the moon landings contradicts this, but the moon landing was merely a propaganda weapon in a cold war, and was never meant to achieve any long term objectives in space science or exploration.
inspirational leader through international cooperation
america is already a great inspiration... it is the perfect example of what other nations should aim to avoid becoming like
war is competition; it just happens to be a little more interactive for the competitors, and there's a little more incentive to not lose
apollo was a military program. if you really want technological development, start a new cold war with the russians or chinese. you don't even have to go to space.
even from the measly conventional wars going on there is technological development, but as for apollo there is a bit of a delay till such developments make it into consumer goods.
if you ever want to get humans into space, there must be a financial incentive. if anyone ever discovers a valuable mineral on the moon (analgous to gold in the americas or oil in the middle east), you will get corporations and governments alike scambling to get machines there to mine it, and cheap disposable labor to operate those machines. till then, keep dreaming.
as far as aeronautics goes, nasa is pwned by the faa, who would be sure to drive up the cost of any aeronautics project 100 fold with regulatory red tape. red tape is what the faa does best.
NASA has sucked at anything space-related since the collapse of the USSR
their measly budget is wasted trying to maintain a hugely overpopulated bureaucracy and academia
there's a lot of oil money in the muslim world, so why not reach out to muslims?
this overreaction is typical american hypocracy, where dropping bombs on other countries is perfectly acceptable, but dropping a religious comment is considered a capital offence
i am just so impressed with how much a virus-infested malware magnet windows has become, whilst linux users don't even need a virus scanner. i'm so glad that microsoft got rid of that pesky start menu, i mean why would they want to retain such a familiar interface element that has been a fairly consistent part of the windows user experience for nearly twenty years? microsoft's training partners must be creaming their pants at the prospect of the whole world needing to be retrained to use a computer all over again. the new metro ui may be the best thing ever invented for the pc, since it may lead to companies reevaluating their dependence on windows and office and giving more consideration to linux and openoffice.org. who wants to keep paying for software when they don't have to? i sure dont!
dude, nobody likes you. you're a douchebag, and you're repetitive garbage isn't even worth reading
was there anything in my op that was factually incorrect? just because you may not like the idea of not using DNS doesn't make it stupid or insane, but maybe its just because dumbshits like you don't even comprehend the idea in the original post and are merely criticizing my ability to dumb it down to your level of understanding