No, WO does handle this. EOF can handle it, and it can distribute updates between the caches across many machines.
If/. were written in WO (And running on the same number of machines it runs on now, etc.) it would be better performing.
Course, its easier to start a site like this in perl or whatever, and grow it like crazy-- it would take 6 months to learn WO first if you didn't already know WO.
But once you did, you could do it. (I'm not taking into account time to create art, and content, just the code.)
Its not a stupid idea, especially if you put more than just pair programming into practice. It sounded stupid to me before I realized we were already doing it without thinking about it, and when we started doing it more (not all the time) it made more sense. Our group did much better.
To call it the "touchstone" seems silly, it was only partly done by the last XP shop I worked at-- I'd say there the touchstone was test/code and the extensive use of unit tests.
Every single one of these "problems" is an area where pc weenies are stupid and sadled with a worse solution, but they THINK its better! And so they complain and complain and complain and complain.
WebObjects is Web Applications done right.
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Ok, you can use WO in collaboration with the J2EE way of doing things. They have built in support for tomcat etc. I haven't used it, and you shouldn't either, though.
You see, WebObjects predates the web by a couple years-- it started out as EOF and enterirpise object foundation that allows you to deal with any RDMS as objects. When the web came about they added a webfrontend, and really did it right (The WOF).
Here's an example. I could create all of the functionality of slashdot, from scratch, including users, moderation, friend/foe, story posting, etc. in about 3 weeks. FROM SCRATCH. Oh, and it would have a hell of a lot better performance and scalability than slasdot has now.
When you want to list the comments on a story, that is merely a query on the DB passed to a repeating object, which has a template in HTML, and thus you have story comments- 20 minutes of work. The query handles ranking, the links are automagically generated, etc.
It simply is the easiest, most effective, and best product ever put out by Apple or anyone in the web applications / database backed website space.
It looses, just like the Mac did, because its competition is very difficult to implement, requires consultants, and the sell the $5 million with consultants included solution, and so everybody tries to sell that cause they get a huge markup. (And the companies that uses htese products never can get their sites updated in time, and thus we had part of what caused the dot-com crash.)
If you're doing any kind of a dynamic or DB backed website, you should learn WO-- at $700 its cheaper than anything that's not free, and if you include your time, its still a LOT cheaper than the free stuff.
It really is the best kept secret in apple's product line.
Meaning that computer science teaches you nothing about computer science?
Anybody graduating college these days with a BS in CS who has not at least read one XP book as part of a class, has wasted his money and should demand a refund.
Whether you use XP on the job or not, XP is one of the things you have to learn before you can call yourself a CS graduate-- otherwise college degrees have no value. (I believe college degrees have no value because those who teach them and set up the curriculum have never developed software in a real environment, and fancy themselves "Above" actually teaching the skills necessary to be a productive software developer. Which is why we get all these kids with BSCSs who can't engineer worth a damn!
Don't feel bad. You're not the only one-- probably less than %1 of the slashdot crowd has heard of extreme programming. After all, perl hackers and other non-programmers have no need for it.
Slashdot is not a technology or programming site-- it is a linux fan site. Unfortunately, a surprisingly small number of linux fans are programmers.
If you do decide to start programming (And that kid who's in his 5th year of CS had better get up to speed!) then XP is something very much worth learning, even if you put none of it into practice.
I think a federal internet sales tax would be of tremendous benefit for all parties concerned.
Yes, thieves would love to get their hands on even more taxes.
There is no justification for this new tax other than "we want more money". Well, tough. I hope, if they implement this, we see a mass exodus of companies out of the country to avoid the complication and hassle of yet another immoral tax. Or, more likely, the corporate lobbyists will kill it in congress-- there is one good thing about lobbyists.
The government took over %70 of my income in direct taxes (And another %25 in indirect ones) last time I checked-- and they haven't returned squat to me-- just more laws preventing pilots from carrying guns, which caused 9/11 and a lot of hot air in congress.
But the really sad thing is so many of you enjoy being slaves-- you wouldn't have it any other way!
Too many americans are completely ignorant of economics (thanks to a public school system that didn't teach them squat) and of the intentions of the founding fathers, and thus we start to follow europe down spiraling down the socialism drain.
FAIR couldn't care less about "fairness" "Accuracy" or "reporting"
Their idea of fair is anything with a decidedly leftist slant, that conforms to all 145 points of the official party agenda.
There's nothing but leftist propaganda on the otherside of the link you sent-- and of course, its worth noting that leftists only believe in freedom of speech if you conform to the official party position.
FAIR has less integrity than Rush Limbaugh, Richard Nixon or Michael Milkin.
EVERY cable company everywhere is already a monopoly.
This action clearly protects that monopoly interest.
The FCC created the situation to begin with by preventing competion on the ground, by blocking sat companies from carrying signals that terrestrial stations wanted to sell them, and by ensuring that in any given area there is only one cable company to choose from.
More often than not, it is the government that created whatever monopoly is in question.
The ironic thing, of course, is that there would be only one satellite provider because the FCC prevented any others from being launched!
This is literally the government deciding how many people can compete in the market, and then exactly how they are allowed to compete. Contrary to popular usage, this is the definition of fascism (As opposed to socialism where no private companies are allowed.)
If you wanted competition, you would oppose this flagrantly unethical ruling by the DOJ and FCC and lobby for the elimination of the FCC altogether.
THEY limited it to only 2 companies in obit. THEY make it so that hte local cable monopoly is a monopoly. and THEY blocked the satellite companies from competing effectively against cable.
They told terrestrial stations that they Weren't ALLOWED To sell their own signal to the satellite providers!
This is total inanity.
The reason you have crappy service from Cable is because the FCC has mandated that there be a monopoly.
If you had a free market, you'd have 3-4 satellite providers and 4-6 local cable providers and the best service would win-- not the one that paid off the FCC.
Its pathetic that americans oppose a free market, and then think they are getting one when the FCC and DOJ block a merger.
The purpose of the government is to protect human rights. So when they violate them, then they need a damn good reason.
Or do you want to live in russia where you have to get government approval to have a car?
Sheesh. The owners of these businesses have the unequivocal right to merge.
The government has NO RIGHT to prevent it-- and in this case is even violating their own illegal guidelines.
It never ceases to amaze me how willingly so many americans just want to be enslaved-- you want that, go live in russia and see the results of what you advocate first hand.
Furthermore, its idiotic-- how can a company competing with thousands of cable companies around the country be a "monopoly"?
I think MS deserves to be punished for stealing apple's technology and defrauding linux and other users who never used windows but were forced to pay for it.
but the FCC has no business being in existance in the first place, and if this is the result of a republican DOJ, then the republicans really are no different from the democrats.
And somehow, I suspect the leftist slashdot crowd is happy to see that human rights have, once again, taken it up the a$%
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Most people don't realize this but Mac users started the fad of case mods. I'm not kidding. Long before there were any companies catering to PC case modders, back when all PCs came in original IBM AT style cases, Mac users were modifying their cases. Not as fancy as these days, but I especially remember the case mods coming out of japan.
Just as PC manufacturers have started emulating the more stylish, and then more colorful Mac cases, so has the PC mod community emulated the Mac mod community.
Nothing wrong with that, just want to head off at the pass any idea that MAc users are copying PC users. Apple also puts out some of the most modifiable cases in the market.
Oh, and that washtech lawsuit against MS? I was a party to that lawsuit and I GOT SCREWED ROYALLY. MS should owe me a around $200,000 in back wages, but the union stabbed me and other workers in my class in the back
I was not cheated by MS-- MS cheated the IRS, and because of it, we got leverage to get part of what MS got out of the deal, but I was cheated by the union
This is part of the reason I know unions suck.
They ALWAYS do whats best for the union, and not what's best for the workers.
Its extortion, plain and simple, and only a fool signs himself up to pay off guido every payday.
Oh, and I do have a friend who was fired because he didn't join the union. you can say its made up, fine, I don't consider you to be rational to begin with.
After all, you're spouting off about unions, but clearly you've never dealt with them, or if you have, you've been too stupid to see that you were getting taken.
When you get a job, you sign whatever paperwork they tell you too. They have it printed in advance, you can read it (or not), but if you don't sign it, you don't get the job.
Thats just stupid. I have yet to sign one of these without making changes, and I have yet to have someone retract a job offer because of it. And I didn't need to get a lawyer or give up %15 of my income to a union to do it-- I am a competent individual who is able to read contracts and write changes. Its not that difficult.
Unions don't level the playing field, they make it so that incompetent bofoons get paid just as much as competent people-- which drives down job satisfaction.
On top of that, a union better beat my deal by %20 to even break even, since they are taking such a large cut of ones salary.
The labor movement did not bring you weekends.
The labor movement is what brought the mafia into the mainstream of business.
Governments have never protected the weak. The purpose of government should be to protect human rights.
If you wanted governments to protect the people, you WOULD be a libertarian.
To quote:
"Nine tenths of everything is tax. Everything you buy has a complicated history of robbery: land, raw materials, energy, tools, buildings, transport, storage, sales, profits. Don't for get the share you contribute toward the personal income tax of every worker who has anything to do with the process.
Inflation by taxation: there are a hundred taxes on a loaf of bread. What kind of living standard would we enjoy if everything cost a tenth of what it does? What kind of world? Think of your home, your car, your TV, your shoes, your supper-- all at %90 discount!
Government can't fight poverty-- poverty is its poudest achievement!"
Basically you have an irrational hatred of corporations, which is quite silly.
And sad, actually, given that it is government that has no accountability and has defrauded people out of trillions of dollars at gun piont.
You say you don't have control over who profits from your labor? That's absurd-- you don't like the corporation, don't work there.
Corporations have relationships with people based on free consent. IF you don't invest or buy or work for the company they have no power over you.
The government, however is coersive. Despite the fact that neither of us will ever see a dime from the social security "retirement" program, we are still forced at gunpoint to give them %15 of our income every year.
You get mugged every pay day, and you're mad at the company? That's a shame-- they are paying you, they're not the ones confiscating half of your income.
Don't get me wrong- I agree with the right to organize.
but you're much better off getting ten of you together and putting your needs before management that way than inviting the mafia in to extort from you and the company for the rest of time.
That's why I say suckers join unions. If you have a legitimate need, form your own among your coworkers and produce a memo (anonymous if need be).
Funny, I've never been fired for telling my boss that some aspect of the employment situation was problematic.
Sometimes I've left when they didn't rectify the issue- but even then they were promising they would (that one was a poorly managed company.)
No, when employees have an issue it almost always affects productivity one way or another (Why do you think health care is provided by employers? Its not because of unions!!!) and management tries to rectify it to keep productivity up. And that also keeps employees happy.
Where does the union fit in? It just sours this relationship, destroyes productivity and profitability.
A workforce unionizing is the death toll for the company-- you should just shut down now, or offer the employees whatever it takes to reject the union.
Thats another detriment-- you're having your salary forcibly extracted from you to pay for lobbying for things you don't believe in, and you call that a benefit?
Union lobbying is solidly against human rights-- remember they make their money by having government protect their extortion racket so they can force employees to "join" in order to keep their jobs.
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The only time I've ever seen any trouble connecting to apple was when there was trouble at MY ISP.
And I've gone to the store during Macworld keynotes and seen sluggishness, but not "totally unresponsive"
That's the thing about net performance- everyone assumes its the site, when it may well be a MAE dropping packets on you.
No, WO does handle this. EOF can handle it, and it can distribute updates between the caches across many machines.
If
Course, its easier to start a site like this in perl or whatever, and grow it like crazy-- it would take 6 months to learn WO first if you didn't already know WO.
But once you did, you could do it. (I'm not taking into account time to create art, and content, just the code.)
Have you ever done pair programming?
Its not a stupid idea, especially if you put more than just pair programming into practice. It sounded stupid to me before I realized we were already doing it without thinking about it, and when we started doing it more (not all the time) it made more sense. Our group did much better.
To call it the "touchstone" seems silly, it was only partly done by the last XP shop I worked at-- I'd say there the touchstone was test/code and the extensive use of unit tests.
There are two classes of programmers these days. People who write html, perl, etc.
And people who program with formal languages such as java, c, etc.
The former never really have to learn how to program.
Every single one of these "problems" is an area where pc weenies are stupid and sadled with a worse solution, but they THINK its better! And so they complain and complain and complain and complain.
Ok, you can use WO in collaboration with the J2EE way of doing things. They have built in support for tomcat etc. I haven't used it, and you shouldn't either, though.
You see, WebObjects predates the web by a couple years-- it started out as EOF and enterirpise object foundation that allows you to deal with any RDMS as objects. When the web came about they added a webfrontend, and really did it right (The WOF).
Here's an example. I could create all of the functionality of slashdot, from scratch, including users, moderation, friend/foe, story posting, etc. in about 3 weeks. FROM SCRATCH. Oh, and it would have a hell of a lot better performance and scalability than slasdot has now.
When you want to list the comments on a story, that is merely a query on the DB passed to a repeating object, which has a template in HTML, and thus you have story comments- 20 minutes of work. The query handles ranking, the links are automagically generated, etc.
It simply is the easiest, most effective, and best product ever put out by Apple or anyone in the web applications / database backed website space.
It looses, just like the Mac did, because its competition is very difficult to implement, requires consultants, and the sell the $5 million with consultants included solution, and so everybody tries to sell that cause they get a huge markup. (And the companies that uses htese products never can get their sites updated in time, and thus we had part of what caused the dot-com crash.)
If you're doing any kind of a dynamic or DB backed website, you should learn WO-- at $700 its cheaper than anything that's not free, and if you include your time, its still a LOT cheaper than the free stuff.
It really is the best kept secret in apple's product line.
Meaning that computer science teaches you nothing about computer science?
Anybody graduating college these days with a BS in CS who has not at least read one XP book as part of a class, has wasted his money and should demand a refund.
Whether you use XP on the job or not, XP is one of the things you have to learn before you can call yourself a CS graduate-- otherwise college degrees have no value. (I believe college degrees have no value because those who teach them and set up the curriculum have never developed software in a real environment, and fancy themselves "Above" actually teaching the skills necessary to be a productive software developer. Which is why we get all these kids with BSCSs who can't engineer worth a damn!
Don't feel bad. You're not the only one-- probably less than %1 of the slashdot crowd has heard of extreme programming. After all, perl hackers and other non-programmers have no need for it.
Slashdot is not a technology or programming site-- it is a linux fan site. Unfortunately, a surprisingly small number of linux fans are programmers.
If you do decide to start programming (And that kid who's in his 5th year of CS had better get up to speed!) then XP is something very much worth learning, even if you put none of it into practice.
I think a federal internet sales tax would be of tremendous benefit for all parties concerned.
Yes, thieves would love to get their hands on even more taxes.
There is no justification for this new tax other than "we want more money". Well, tough. I hope, if they implement this, we see a mass exodus of companies out of the country to avoid the complication and hassle of yet another immoral tax. Or, more likely, the corporate lobbyists will kill it in congress-- there is one good thing about lobbyists.
The government took over %70 of my income in direct taxes (And another %25 in indirect ones) last time I checked-- and they haven't returned squat to me-- just more laws preventing pilots from carrying guns, which caused 9/11 and a lot of hot air in congress.
But the really sad thing is so many of you enjoy being slaves-- you wouldn't have it any other way!
Too many americans are completely ignorant of economics (thanks to a public school system that didn't teach them squat) and of the intentions of the founding fathers, and thus we start to follow europe down spiraling down the socialism drain.
FAIR couldn't care less about "fairness" "Accuracy" or "reporting"
Their idea of fair is anything with a decidedly leftist slant, that conforms to all 145 points of the official party agenda.
There's nothing but leftist propaganda on the otherside of the link you sent-- and of course, its worth noting that leftists only believe in freedom of speech if you conform to the official party position.
FAIR has less integrity than Rush Limbaugh, Richard Nixon or Michael Milkin.
EVERY cable company everywhere is already a monopoly.
This action clearly protects that monopoly interest.
The FCC created the situation to begin with by preventing competion on the ground, by blocking sat companies from carrying signals that terrestrial stations wanted to sell them, and by ensuring that in any given area there is only one cable company to choose from.
More often than not, it is the government that created whatever monopoly is in question.
The ironic thing, of course, is that there would be only one satellite provider because the FCC prevented any others from being launched!
This is literally the government deciding how many people can compete in the market, and then exactly how they are allowed to compete. Contrary to popular usage, this is the definition of fascism (As opposed to socialism where no private companies are allowed.)
If you wanted competition, you would oppose this flagrantly unethical ruling by the DOJ and FCC and lobby for the elimination of the FCC altogether.
THEY limited it to only 2 companies in obit. THEY make it so that hte local cable monopoly is a monopoly. and THEY blocked the satellite companies from competing effectively against cable.
They told terrestrial stations that they Weren't ALLOWED To sell their own signal to the satellite providers!
This is total inanity.
The reason you have crappy service from Cable is because the FCC has mandated that there be a monopoly.
If you had a free market, you'd have 3-4 satellite providers and 4-6 local cable providers and the best service would win-- not the one that paid off the FCC.
Its pathetic that americans oppose a free market, and then think they are getting one when the FCC and DOJ block a merger.
Idiots, all.
No, the question, slave, is why SHOULDN'T.
The purpose of the government is to protect human rights. So when they violate them, then they need a damn good reason.
Or do you want to live in russia where you have to get government approval to have a car?
Sheesh. The owners of these businesses have the unequivocal right to merge.
The government has NO RIGHT to prevent it-- and in this case is even violating their own illegal guidelines.
It never ceases to amaze me how willingly so many americans just want to be enslaved-- you want that, go live in russia and see the results of what you advocate first hand.
Speicfically, the right to free association.
Furthermore, its idiotic-- how can a company competing with thousands of cable companies around the country be a "monopoly"?
I think MS deserves to be punished for stealing apple's technology and defrauding linux and other users who never used windows but were forced to pay for it.
but the FCC has no business being in existance in the first place, and if this is the result of a republican DOJ, then the republicans really are no different from the democrats.
And somehow, I suspect the leftist slashdot crowd is happy to see that human rights have, once again, taken it up the a$%
Most people don't realize this but Mac users started the fad of case mods. I'm not kidding. Long before there were any companies catering to PC case modders, back when all PCs came in original IBM AT style cases, Mac users were modifying their cases. Not as fancy as these days, but I especially remember the case mods coming out of japan.
Just as PC manufacturers have started emulating the more stylish, and then more colorful Mac cases, so has the PC mod community emulated the Mac mod community.
Nothing wrong with that, just want to head off at the pass any idea that MAc users are copying PC users. Apple also puts out some of the most modifiable cases in the market.
The union did not create the 8 hour work day.
They did not create weekends.
Oh, and that washtech lawsuit against MS? I was a party to that lawsuit and I GOT SCREWED ROYALLY. MS should owe me a around $200,000 in back wages, but the union stabbed me and other workers in my class in the back
I was not cheated by MS-- MS cheated the IRS, and because of it, we got leverage to get part of what MS got out of the deal, but I was cheated by the union
This is part of the reason I know unions suck.
They ALWAYS do whats best for the union, and not what's best for the workers.
Its extortion, plain and simple, and only a fool signs himself up to pay off guido every payday.
Oh, and I do have a friend who was fired because he didn't join the union. you can say its made up, fine, I don't consider you to be rational to begin with.
After all, you're spouting off about unions, but clearly you've never dealt with them, or if you have, you've been too stupid to see that you were getting taken.
When you get a job, you sign whatever paperwork they tell you too. They have it printed in advance, you can read it (or not), but if you don't sign it, you don't get the job.
Thats just stupid. I have yet to sign one of these without making changes, and I have yet to have someone retract a job offer because of it. And I didn't need to get a lawyer or give up %15 of my income to a union to do it-- I am a competent individual who is able to read contracts and write changes. Its not that difficult.
Unions don't level the playing field, they make it so that incompetent bofoons get paid just as much as competent people-- which drives down job satisfaction.
On top of that, a union better beat my deal by %20 to even break even, since they are taking such a large cut of ones salary.
The labor movement did not bring you weekends.
The labor movement is what brought the mafia into the mainstream of business.
Governments have never protected the weak. The purpose of government should be to protect human rights.
If you wanted governments to protect the people, you WOULD be a libertarian.
To quote:
"Nine tenths of everything is tax. Everything you buy has a complicated history of robbery: land, raw materials, energy, tools, buildings, transport, storage, sales, profits. Don't for get the share you contribute toward the personal income tax of every worker who has anything to do with the process.
Inflation by taxation: there are a hundred taxes on a loaf of bread. What kind of living standard would we enjoy if everything cost a tenth of what it does? What kind of world? Think of your home, your car, your TV, your shoes, your supper-- all at %90 discount!
Government can't fight poverty-- poverty is its poudest achievement!"
Basically you have an irrational hatred of corporations, which is quite silly.
And sad, actually, given that it is government that has no accountability and has defrauded people out of trillions of dollars at gun piont.
You say you don't have control over who profits from your labor? That's absurd-- you don't like the corporation, don't work there.
Corporations have relationships with people based on free consent. IF you don't invest or buy or work for the company they have no power over you.
The government, however is coersive. Despite the fact that neither of us will ever see a dime from the social security "retirement" program, we are still forced at gunpoint to give them %15 of our income every year.
You get mugged every pay day, and you're mad at the company? That's a shame-- they are paying you, they're not the ones confiscating half of your income.
No, it IS a bad thing because an employee who wants to work there but doesn't want to join the union gets fired.
It is this monopoly that lets them extort a cut of every employee's salary.
The funny thing is that the republicans end up doing more for the poor by creating jobs than the democrats do by destroying them.
Helping the rich is helping the poor- we're all in the boat together and you guys are trying to drill a hole thru the bottom to get at the water.
Idiocy.
Nope. Once the union is htere, it has too much power and will never disappear.
All the employees hired have to be union members, so there is no "free market". The employees can't choose to not be union members.
Remember, a friend got fired by the UNION because he wouldn't join!
Now that is corrupt.
Don't get me wrong- I agree with the right to organize.
but you're much better off getting ten of you together and putting your needs before management that way than inviting the mafia in to extort from you and the company for the rest of time.
That's why I say suckers join unions. If you have a legitimate need, form your own among your coworkers and produce a memo (anonymous if need be).
Funny, I've never been fired for telling my boss that some aspect of the employment situation was problematic.
Sometimes I've left when they didn't rectify the issue- but even then they were promising they would (that one was a poorly managed company.)
No, when employees have an issue it almost always affects productivity one way or another (Why do you think health care is provided by employers? Its not because of unions!!!) and management tries to rectify it to keep productivity up. And that also keeps employees happy.
Where does the union fit in? It just sours this relationship, destroyes productivity and profitability.
A workforce unionizing is the death toll for the company-- you should just shut down now, or offer the employees whatever it takes to reject the union.
It will be cheaper in the long run.
Thats another detriment-- you're having your salary forcibly extracted from you to pay for lobbying for things you don't believe in, and you call that a benefit?
Union lobbying is solidly against human rights-- remember they make their money by having government protect their extortion racket so they can force employees to "join" in order to keep their jobs.