But look on the bright side - you are much bigger than you were yesterday. Ah, so that's the reason for so many overweight people. Thanks for clearing that up.
Now if only Microsoft could develop a system for delivering electric shocks to users who run untrusted executables they receive in email, that would be something. That's Microsoft's fault to begin with. Running arbitrary code like that has always been considered bad practice. Is anyone else old enough to remember all the controversy on USENET over executable shell archives? At least with a shar file you could read it first before running it to get at the files inside.
The company will also be extending its alliances with Linux-focused business partners such as TurboLinux and Intel. TurboLinux is now shipping a Linux based data server using IBM's DB2 Universal database. "Looking forward," said Ted Liu, Vice President Marketing, Alliance & Business Development, TurboLinux. "TurboLinux will work with IBM to continue the development of the Linux market."
I'm not sure that the transition to BeOpen.com of the development effort is altogether a good thing. If this results in extra resources and they are focussed on enhancing Python, Python may become too complex and featureful; a number of other languages that started out like Python have gone down that road and become marginalized. Or Python may simply end up being a side-line for some other business, just like what seems to have happened with Scriptics and Tcl.
I don't think there's any danger in Python being coopted by BeOpen. They have provided funding for XEmacs for some years now and continue to provide funding with the current GTK graphics port. I have found them reasonable people to work with.
P.S. If osm cares to write a `natalie-portman.el' that does something interesting I'll put it in XEmacs and InfoDock.
There was one, of a sort. Once upon a time, vi read a.exrc file in the directiory it was invoked in. There were many amusing possibilities for.exrc attacks. My favorite was:!kill -8 $PPID. Modern vi's don't allow this any more.
Emacs and XEmacs still have the potential for macro-type viruses as they can be configured to run arbitrary lisp code in files being edited. It isn't the default to do this any more, but it used to be.
Win2k allows each "application" to have private versions of shared libaries, ie to improve overall reliability and resilience by not allowing applications to update common files.
This is not innovation. This `capability' has been standard for every Unix I've used with multiple shared library capability.
With proper manipulation of LD_LIBRARY_PATH, this has been doable on Unix and Unix-like systems for almost 15 years now.
Then isn't 15 years enough for someone to come along and improve upon it? Or should we wait for an open source guy to just get around to it?
I thought it was an ugly system at the time I was using it, I think it's an ugly system to this day. After further reading here, I believe that the problem that Microsoft is solving was better solved by Sun Microsystems (also) in the '80s and the fact that it never became widespread in the Unix community is proof (IMO) of its ultimate usefulness.
what is being developed is not a symbolic link but a way of transparently and automatically controlling redundency.
Correct. This goes beyond symlinks or hardlinks, but it is hardly new technology. I know of at least one revision control system that used something exactly like this and it was developed in the late 1980's.
Who moderated this up? This post is wrong. The -R and -L flags are used for tunneling, not specifying a port to connect to on the remote machine. The -p flag specifies a port to connect to, however, it requires an sshd to be connected to it. There is no ssh equivalent for 'telnet host port'.
$ telnet ftp.xemacs.org ftp Trying 207.96.122.8... Connected to gwyn.tux.org(207.96.122.8). Escape character is '^]'. 220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre8 Server (ProFTPD on ftp.tux.org) [gwyn.tux.org]
$ ssh -p 21 ftp.xemacs.org Bad remote protocol version identification: '220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre8 Server (ProFTPD on ftp.tux.org) [gwyn.tux.org]
I don't do (MS) windows. In DOS 2.0 there were several vital system calls that weren't documented. These included:
return DOS entrancy flag
(Useful when writing add-on software that responded to hardware interrupts. If this flag wasn't set, it was safe to make a DOS system call.)
load program but do not execute
(Useful for writing debuggers.)
set/get option/path separator character
Undocumented API calls used by standard Microsoft utilities are patently unfair and create an unlevel playing field. I would agree with you if they weren't being used, but I suspect little has changed over the years.
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It been a while since I've done any lisp programming, and I have to say, EMACS almost makes it tolerable, but I have yet to see anyone use it outside an academic environment.
Lisp has been used in smart weapons by the US military. One I remember specifically was a robotic, pilotless airplane that computed a safe flight pattern over terrain with various kinds of antiaircraft weapons shooting at it. I don't know whether this got beyond the prototype stage, but it made a great demonstration.
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This seems like an insanely stupid stunt. Why is this not simply going to provide the key escrow crowd with more ammunition?
Key escrow would have done what? Who are they going to punish for not escrowing the key? Jack Straw?
Sadly though, I see the encryption type on their SSL.. 40 bit RSA, 40 bit key.
That's not what I got. Either you're not running a full strength Netscape or you need to go into your security configuration and disable all the insecure ciphers.
I bet if an error like this cropped up due to a patch in the linux kernel everyone would be bitching about how crappy Notes is, not the kernel.
This did happen, but it was different. In the 2.1 experimental series, a bug fix was made that broke rvplayer. Alan Cox informed the vendor of the problem before the bug fix was formally released in a test Linux kernel, and workarounds that allowed rvplayer to continue working even with the kernel bug fix were available almost immediately. By the time it was released in a stable Linux kernel it was pretty much a non-issue.
I don't know about what they're using for firewalls, but their whole public network used to be BSDI based. It is only fairly recently they started using their own software.
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The XEmacs spook.lines contains "David John Oates" who is the guy who listens to tapes of people speaking backwards and finds hidden messages that he claims are what they are really thinking about. M-x spook is a joke. You're supposed to laugh...
I once started something like this, using NetHack instead of Doom.
That would be pretty cool, I wish someone would. There are some pretty fun things you could do with it.
You quaff a potion called "chmod 0."... You are blind! You read a scroll labelled "/etc/passwd"... This scroll is too hard to read!
Somebody wrote a full adventure shell back in the '80s. Each directory was a room, executable programs were monsters. To edit something, for example, you had to pick up the file, then throw it at the vi monster. As I recall, the author of the script said that he knew people who actually preferred using it to csh or sh.
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Yeah and who cares anyway since time_t rolls over a few years earlier.
Google was at the top of every one of your searches, including the last one, when I tried it.
Yes, I do. I do not think they'll have any problems crewing a mission like that.
This isn't about not distributing source. It is about using GPL'ed software linked with proprietary code, in this case, the Solaris kernel.
You people who are always complaining about the viral properties of the GPL should be rejoicing, I believe.
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I don't think there's any danger in Python being coopted by BeOpen. They have provided funding for XEmacs for some years now and continue to provide funding with the current GTK graphics port. I have found them reasonable people to work with.
P.S.
If osm cares to write a `natalie-portman.el' that does something interesting I'll put it in XEmacs and InfoDock.
There is an Open Source Unix Virus Project already. The mailing list seems to be dead at the moment, the last message I got said in part:
Anyway, onto the beef of the matter.. News.. I've written a new Linux ELF Virus which brings the current virus technology to a new level.
There was one, of a sort. Once upon a time, vi read a
Emacs and XEmacs still have the potential for macro-type viruses as they can be configured to run arbitrary lisp code in files being edited. It isn't the default to do this any more, but it used to be.
Strange. nslookup shows the plex86.org nameservers to be ns1.fastxs.net and ns2.fastxs.net.
www.plex86.org isn't a pointer to their home page, it is their home page.
This is not innovation. This `capability' has been standard for every Unix I've used with multiple shared library capability.
With proper manipulation of LD_LIBRARY_PATH, this has been doable on Unix and Unix-like systems for almost 15 years now.
I thought it was an ugly system at the time I was using it, I think it's an ugly system to this day. After further reading here, I believe that the problem that Microsoft is solving was better solved by Sun Microsystems (also) in the '80s and the fact that it never became widespread in the Unix community is proof (IMO) of its ultimate usefulness.
Correct. This goes beyond symlinks or hardlinks, but it is hardly new technology. I know of at least one revision control system that used something exactly like this and it was developed in the late 1980's.
The -p flag specifies a port to connect to, however, it requires an sshd to be connected to it. There is no ssh equivalent for 'telnet host port'.
$ telnet ftp.xemacs.org ftp
Trying 207.96.122.8...
Connected to gwyn.tux.org(207.96.122.8).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre8 Server (ProFTPD on ftp.tux.org) [gwyn.tux.org]
$ ssh -p 21 ftp.xemacs.org
Bad remote protocol version identification: '220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre8 Server (ProFTPD on ftp.tux.org) [gwyn.tux.org]
I don't do (MS) windows. In DOS 2.0 there were several vital system calls that weren't documented. These included:
Undocumented API calls used by standard Microsoft utilities are patently unfair and create an unlevel playing field. I would agree with you if they weren't being used, but I suspect little has changed over the years.
Lisp has been used in smart weapons by the US military. One I remember specifically was a robotic, pilotless airplane that computed a safe flight pattern over terrain with various kinds of antiaircraft weapons shooting at it. I don't know whether this got beyond the prototype stage, but it made a great demonstration.
Key escrow would have done what? Who are they going to punish for not escrowing the key? Jack Straw?
If anything, it's fodder for banning encryption.
That's not what I got. Either you're not running a full strength Netscape or you need to go into your security configuration and disable all the insecure ciphers.
This did happen, but it was different. In the 2.1 experimental series, a bug fix was made that broke rvplayer. Alan Cox informed the vendor of the problem before the bug fix was formally released in a test Linux kernel, and workarounds that allowed rvplayer to continue working even with the kernel bug fix were available almost immediately. By the time it was released in a stable Linux kernel it was pretty much a non-issue.
I want the dash too.
export I_WANT_A_BROKEN_PS=t
is your friend.
The Asian Language support in TurboLinux isn't completely free software. It includes OMRON's Wnn6 and a Japanese Dictionary CD ROM.
I don't know about what they're using for firewalls, but their whole public network used to be BSDI based. It is only fairly recently they started using their own software.
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From: nickkral@caa32.alumni.berkeley.edu (Nick Kralevich)
Date: 1995/08/24
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Check this out:
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diamonds:~> telnet www.windows.microsoft.com
Trying...
Connected to www.windows.microsoft.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
BSDI BSD/OS 2.0 (wl6.windows.microsoft.com) (ttyp1)
login:
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Or download.windows.microsoft.com.
Apparently Microsoft put up a much of WWW servers for the Win95 stuff. And guess what those servers are running!
I guess Microsoft really does suck! Long live Linux and Unix!
Thanks to wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul) for pointing this out on
Take care,
-- Nick Kralevich
nickkral@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu
The XEmacs spook.lines contains "David John Oates" who is the guy who listens to tapes of people speaking backwards and finds hidden messages that he claims are what they are really thinking about. ...
M-x spook is a joke. You're supposed to laugh
That would be pretty cool, I wish someone would. There are some pretty fun things you could do with it.
You quaff a potion called "chmod 0
You are blind!
You read a scroll labelled "/etc/passwd"
This scroll is too hard to read!
Somebody wrote a full adventure shell back in the '80s. Each directory was a room, executable programs were monsters. To edit something, for example, you had to pick up the file, then throw it at the vi monster. As I recall, the author of the script said that he knew people who actually preferred using it to csh or sh.