That being said, I have a modded Xbox 1, just for XBMC, but I'm not dumb enough to try to get on the Live network with it.
If you're smart enough to run and write your own code for the 360, you're probably smart enough to know not to plug it into Live, or be surprised what happens when it goes ON live.
Microsoft sold these guys a console which they said could be used to play online games, and now these console can't be used to so much as send a private message.
I reached over and pulled out a random 360 game with online play(Word to the wise: If you're planning on picking up Guilty Gear 2: Overture, don't). On the box, it states that Online play is ONLY available through Xbox Live with paid subscription. it's in tiny print, but, anyone who picks up an Xbox and thinks, "I'm going to play Online through Xlink Kai, fuck Live!" is going to be in for a shock. LAN play isn't even offered on a lot of games, and it's not even LAN play that's offered, it's "System Link."
Is it right? No. But I didn't get an xbox 360 except begrudgingly.
You're right, it's not illegal to mod your Xbox. It's legal though, to ban modded Xboxes off of Live. They're no longer using the service in good faith. A lot of cheating happens on Xbox Live because of modded consoles.
The lynch pin to the whole case is that functionality was disabled that wasn't made apparent during the update process. I'm guessing Microsoft is going to pull some sort of trade secret argument if this manages to go to court. Xbox is now compromised, so is the creamy DRM filling in the middle from Windows Media Center PCs. I don't think it's necessarily cogent, but, IANAL.
Is this model sustainable? With the number of expansions, absorbed companies and conquest, it looks like EA is turning into the GM of gaming. they may be healthy now but what about in a year? 5 years? 10 years? It's like cutting off your pinky to lose weight. It's gone, and never coming back.
The fact is, a lot of developers suck. They make pretty lousy decisions, period. There's a reason why a lot of software is garbage.
If it was about monopolizing and monetizing the entire experience, it'd cost you five bucks per app submission and $500 a year for an app store developer license.
No shit. I don't even know how to get twinkle or twitterific setup on my phone. It should be a pretty fucking simple setup process. Username, password. easy! I don't know why EchoFon gets it right but other twitter apps don't.
Apple's going pro-user experience, which is contrary to the aims of developers. There's a fine difference. If they were anti-developer, they wouldn't have put out an SDK at all for the iPhone, or even an app store.
She's a professional. Psystar has probably been an exciting case to watch because it's going to set lots of precedent concerning EULA and case law. EULA hasn't been tested in court like this in this manner before.
Most of the Western world, DMCA-like laws apply concerning circumvention devices.
Considering we're talking about an American casein a Californian court, this is certainly illegal in America and certainly in California.
EULAs are rarely worth the paper they are written on, so while Pystar may break the terms of the EULA, with some clever lawyering they should be able to pass this technicality on to end user, forcing apple to go after Pystar customers not Pystar.
EULAs aren't. They're what got Psystar in trouble. If you want to peg a dollar amount on what an EULA's worth, look at how much Psystar's going to have to pay in legal fees to apple. That's how much an EULA's worth.
Hackintosh users break the EULA just as much as Pystar, the only difference is that fanboys seam to like hackintosh. By going after Pystar Apple have made it clear that they think hackintoshes are illegal and they have the right to sue you for using them (even if they choose not to)
No, they don't. Hackintosh users break some parts of the EULA. Psystar breaks way more provisions.
I just read the OSX10.6 EULA. While one hand it was trite and full of legalese, it was the lightest, thinnest OS EULA on the market today. I think it can fit into a manila envelope.
I'm not allowed to throw a mod chip on my Xbox and sell it.
Alternatively, if I'm not allowed to say, install OSX by EULA on something other than Apple hardware, I'm not allowed to sell OSX by EULA on something other than Apple hardware. The EULA has this provision, I suspect, is to prevent someone from pulling a psystar but not a hackintosh.
The difference here is that Barbara Streisand was making a rational claim of privacy. It was legally wrong, and the distinction has to be be made, it was a rational claim.
The reason why this distinction has to be made is the fact that it has to be made very clear, Glenn Beck has never made a rational claim in his life.
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Second hand smoke is rarely a personal choice.
That being said, I have a modded Xbox 1, just for XBMC, but I'm not dumb enough to try to get on the Live network with it.
If you're smart enough to run and write your own code for the 360, you're probably smart enough to know not to plug it into Live, or be surprised what happens when it goes ON live.
if my highschool days are anything to go by, cheating online and piracy were hobbies!
Microsoft sold these guys a console which they said could be used to play online games, and now these console can't be used to so much as send a private message.
I reached over and pulled out a random 360 game with online play(Word to the wise: If you're planning on picking up Guilty Gear 2: Overture, don't). On the box, it states that Online play is ONLY available through Xbox Live with paid subscription. it's in tiny print, but, anyone who picks up an Xbox and thinks, "I'm going to play Online through Xlink Kai, fuck Live!" is going to be in for a shock. LAN play isn't even offered on a lot of games, and it's not even LAN play that's offered, it's "System Link."
Is it right? No. But I didn't get an xbox 360 except begrudgingly.
You're right, it's not illegal to mod your Xbox. It's legal though, to ban modded Xboxes off of Live. They're no longer using the service in good faith. A lot of cheating happens on Xbox Live because of modded consoles.
The lynch pin to the whole case is that functionality was disabled that wasn't made apparent during the update process. I'm guessing Microsoft is going to pull some sort of trade secret argument if this manages to go to court. Xbox is now compromised, so is the creamy DRM filling in the middle from Windows Media Center PCs. I don't think it's necessarily cogent, but, IANAL.
Is this model sustainable? With the number of expansions, absorbed companies and conquest, it looks like EA is turning into the GM of gaming. they may be healthy now but what about in a year? 5 years? 10 years? It's like cutting off your pinky to lose weight. It's gone, and never coming back.
The fact is, a lot of developers suck. They make pretty lousy decisions, period. There's a reason why a lot of software is garbage.
If it was about monopolizing and monetizing the entire experience, it'd cost you five bucks per app submission and $500 a year for an app store developer license.
No shit. I don't even know how to get twinkle or twitterific setup on my phone. It should be a pretty fucking simple setup process. Username, password. easy! I don't know why EchoFon gets it right but other twitter apps don't.
Clearly you're not aware of the state of modern software.
No matter what the platform, no matter what the OS. About 95% of software is garbage.
Is that app the most popular because Hewitt is a fucking genius or is it because... Everyone loves Facebook?
Apple's going pro-user experience, which is contrary to the aims of developers. There's a fine difference. If they were anti-developer, they wouldn't have put out an SDK at all for the iPhone, or even an app store.
can I get this analogy in a term I can understand? Like perhaps Cars per Library of Congress?
Feature set.
I'm out of the PC Gaming scene(in fact, my computer is Grape.).
But I do understand the idea of building a sub 500 dollar PC that supports Windows 7 and nearly any game you awnt to throw at it though.
you must surely agree that compared to Visual Studio, paper tape IS a superior option.
Then reading Final fantasy VII faqs and Meterology websites would get really strange.
Why do you think he was asking for help?
She's a professional. Psystar has probably been an exciting case to watch because it's going to set lots of precedent concerning EULA and case law. EULA hasn't been tested in court like this in this manner before.
so what does this have to do with PJ?
Okay skippy, you take out ads on Craigslist and in the local paper saying you sell modded Xboxes and PS2s and let's see how far YOU get. :)
Most of the Western world, DMCA-like laws apply concerning circumvention devices.
Considering we're talking about an American casein a Californian court, this is certainly illegal in America and certainly in California.
EULAs are rarely worth the paper they are written on, so while Pystar may break the terms of the EULA, with some clever lawyering they should be able to pass this technicality on to end user, forcing apple to go after Pystar customers not Pystar.
EULAs aren't. They're what got Psystar in trouble. If you want to peg a dollar amount on what an EULA's worth, look at how much Psystar's going to have to pay in legal fees to apple. That's how much an EULA's worth.
Hackintosh users break the EULA just as much as Pystar, the only difference is that fanboys seam to like hackintosh. By going after Pystar Apple have made it clear that they think hackintoshes are illegal and they have the right to sue you for using them (even if they choose not to)
No, they don't. Hackintosh users break some parts of the EULA. Psystar breaks way more provisions.
I just read the OSX10.6 EULA. While one hand it was trite and full of legalese, it was the lightest, thinnest OS EULA on the market today. I think it can fit into a manila envelope.
You mean to tell me that Apple doesn't have offices and officers who work in Germany?
I suspect that PearC isn't as brazen as Psystar though.
I'm not allowed to throw a mod chip on my Xbox and sell it.
Alternatively, if I'm not allowed to say, install OSX by EULA on something other than Apple hardware, I'm not allowed to sell OSX by EULA on something other than Apple hardware. The EULA has this provision, I suspect, is to prevent someone from pulling a psystar but not a hackintosh.
are you seriously comparing vendor lock in on software to the Soviet Union?
It's a PHONE. you're free to jail break and Apple won't zap your phone dead. Christ.
The difference here is that Barbara Streisand was making a rational claim of privacy. It was legally wrong, and the distinction has to be be made, it was a rational claim.
The reason why this distinction has to be made is the fact that it has to be made very clear, Glenn Beck has never made a rational claim in his life.
Those sure are neat talking points. Where did you copy and paste them from?