You dont see Walmart, Target, et al. Making this argument with the iPad and iPod products for media. Probably only a matter of time.
To be fair though, games sellers ONLY sell games. I think they have a point but I don't think that it's compelling enough to merit worth listening to. Steam is nice and all, but game shops still aren't obsolete yet. Never under estimate the bandwidth of a bag full of DVDs and a car versus any home Internet connection. Even if it is 100mbps. Plus are there any PC only shops?
Well, no. It's not open to the endusers. Rooting is a mess.
Google screwed the pooch, big, with their licensing terms.
Yes, I am an iOS fanboy, but Steve Jobs and other Apple employees aren't tweeting about rebuilding iOS from source. They've set my expectations correctly.
The N900 is by far the most tweakable device I've ever used, and the most open. How many smartphones out there can run a custom kernel that allows overclocking, shh-ing into the phone, and editing text config files? How about upgrading, downgrading and replacing individual packages?
These are great features I want in a computer, but not a phone. The last thing I need is for my phone to stop booting because I got some config all wrong and now I can't even make calls on it.
Nokia phones -suck- from a usability standpoint. There's a reason why Nokia's not seen as a hot brand in their own back yard, Finland, and why iOS and Android are quickly gaining ground.
Or maybe there's more nuanced reasons why Nokia smart phones didn't sell well in this country, including the reluctance of consumers to buy into expensive data plans and phones that were difficult to use? American carriers did carry nokia smart phones until about the 2003 or so, then carriers realized no one was buying them.
This is proof positive to me that Nokia's definitely a hardware company that doesn't know when it needs to give up it's software side. Maemo/Meego's been delayed, they're still using their awful Symbian OS. They're past the point of needing to shore up their software and just push something usable out.
How do you go from 70% market share to 40% with an all time low of 35%? Being an iOS fanboy, I've got a lot of criticism for the Android platform, but as a consumer, it looks more and more viable than Nokia's offerings. No matter how nice the camera or the hardware is on the N8, the software is still obscenely subpar.
When are FroYo devices running 10.1 getting the update? When's HTC and Sprint, HTC and AT&T, HTC and TMobile and HTC and Verizon planning on doing an OTA? When's Motorola? Samsung? etc. etc. etc.
There's precedent for what I'm advocating though, and that's the dock port remote interface. I've got an iTrip that talks to both my iPod classic and my iPhone 3GS.
Having an official API would make it easier to adopt than releasing an API and spec sheet. as a gamer, I want consistency. I plug it in, and it works.
The customer always wants *something*, they want more, more and more.
Between the options of merely lacking a first party stylus and instead lacking something like say, multitouch or smooth UI effects, or a real app infrastructure, or...
Given the options of satisfying an angry mob or an angry madman, I'd say that the angry mad man is more correct. Developers and managers suck at telling me what a good UI is. This is how we get shit like Symbian, Windows Mobile 6.5 and the inconsistent madness of Android(Although Android is leaps and bounds beyond Symbian and Windows Mobile, it's still got massive UI problems; notably the UI API SUCKS).
I think Steve Jobs was absolutely 100% correct when he said styluses suck as a primary input source.
However, I think Steve Jobs was wrong in not *offering* a stylus as an addon accessory first party. I know about the pogo stylus, i wish apple had put out a first party solution.
While people are decrying the pointlessness of a serial controller on the iPad/iPhone, instead imagine a tiny smd 8 to 1 or 16 to 1 multiplexer feeding this thing digital input from some connected switches.
Yes. I'm talking about a snap on joypad device. While people here are going to yell and scream about Apple's locked down nature, I'm going to yell about their short sightedness. Apple screwed the pooch with iPhone OS 3. When they announced compatibility with attaching devices to it's dock connector, they should've also written up a serial API for joypad like devices with a set number of buttons and released a joypad accessory.
Then again I thought the iPad could benefit greatly from a stylus, just because of it's sheer size and annotating pages with a pen is easier than typing, but, that's just my POV.
I agree. i'm a little uneasy charging someone for what amounts to a thought crime, but if you smash a synagogue's window in, vandalize the place, and spray paint swastikas all over the place or you kill a transvestite and carve "FAG" into their chest, it's *very* clear, then let's call it what it is, terrorism.
They have a marketcap that exceeds Microsoft's right now. You don't have to sell #1, just be profitable. It's what got Nintendo through the N64 and GC days.
If instead of looking at the numbers of iOS devices sold versus Android, look at the number of Apple devices sold versus any other vendor. Right now, in the desktop and mobile computing markets, Apple is in the top 5 of all OEMs.
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the ribbon is godawful.
Outlook 2010 on a laptop monitor is a pain in the ass. entirely too much screen realestate is being used by overly verbose, confusing buttons.
You dont see Walmart, Target, et al. Making this argument with the iPad and iPod products for media. Probably only a matter of time.
To be fair though, games sellers ONLY sell games. I think they have a point but I don't think that it's compelling enough to merit worth listening to. Steam is nice and all, but game shops still aren't obsolete yet. Never under estimate the bandwidth of a bag full of DVDs and a car versus any home Internet connection. Even if it is 100mbps. Plus are there any PC only shops?
I couldn't agree more.
Google's flogging "OPEN OPEN OPEN!"
Well, no. It's not open to the endusers. Rooting is a mess.
Google screwed the pooch, big, with their licensing terms.
Yes, I am an iOS fanboy, but Steve Jobs and other Apple employees aren't tweeting about rebuilding iOS from source. They've set my expectations correctly.
The N900 is by far the most tweakable device I've ever used, and the most open. How many smartphones out there can run a custom kernel that allows overclocking, shh-ing into the phone, and editing text config files? How about upgrading, downgrading and replacing individual packages?
These are great features I want in a computer, but not a phone. The last thing I need is for my phone to stop booting because I got some config all wrong and now I can't even make calls on it.
Bullshit.
Nokia phones -suck- from a usability standpoint. There's a reason why Nokia's not seen as a hot brand in their own back yard, Finland, and why iOS and Android are quickly gaining ground.
Or maybe there's more nuanced reasons why Nokia smart phones didn't sell well in this country, including the reluctance of consumers to buy into expensive data plans and phones that were difficult to use? American carriers did carry nokia smart phones until about the 2003 or so, then carriers realized no one was buying them.
My first two phones were Nokia feature phones.
Nokia is no stranger to locking users out of their hardware at the whims of carriers. Nokia knows what side it's bread is buttered on.
This is proof positive to me that Nokia's definitely a hardware company that doesn't know when it needs to give up it's software side. Maemo/Meego's been delayed, they're still using their awful Symbian OS. They're past the point of needing to shore up their software and just push something usable out.
How do you go from 70% market share to 40% with an all time low of 35%? Being an iOS fanboy, I've got a lot of criticism for the Android platform, but as a consumer, it looks more and more viable than Nokia's offerings. No matter how nice the camera or the hardware is on the N8, the software is still obscenely subpar.
yet Zynga and Farmville march on...
No, but the Flash infrastructure means that implementing a battery draining technology rather than force content providers to move on with the future.
When are FroYo devices running 10.1 getting the update? When's HTC and Sprint, HTC and AT&T, HTC and TMobile and HTC and Verizon planning on doing an OTA? When's Motorola? Samsung? etc. etc. etc.
There's precedent for what I'm advocating though, and that's the dock port remote interface. I've got an iTrip that talks to both my iPod classic and my iPhone 3GS.
Having an official API would make it easier to adopt than releasing an API and spec sheet. as a gamer, I want consistency. I plug it in, and it works.
the main issue with everyone else:
The customer always wants *something*, they want more, more and more.
Between the options of merely lacking a first party stylus and instead lacking something like say, multitouch or smooth UI effects, or a real app infrastructure, or...
Given the options of satisfying an angry mob or an angry madman, I'd say that the angry mad man is more correct. Developers and managers suck at telling me what a good UI is. This is how we get shit like Symbian, Windows Mobile 6.5 and the inconsistent madness of Android(Although Android is leaps and bounds beyond Symbian and Windows Mobile, it's still got massive UI problems; notably the UI API SUCKS).
I'll take missing a first party stylus.
YES.
Reform the Senate and reform campaign finance.
The filibuster and unlimited external donations are the most harmful thing to happen to reasonable Governance in this century.
I think Steve Jobs was absolutely 100% correct when he said styluses suck as a primary input source.
However, I think Steve Jobs was wrong in not *offering* a stylus as an addon accessory first party. I know about the pogo stylus, i wish apple had put out a first party solution.
While people are decrying the pointlessness of a serial controller on the iPad/iPhone, instead imagine a tiny smd 8 to 1 or 16 to 1 multiplexer feeding this thing digital input from some connected switches.
Yes. I'm talking about a snap on joypad device. While people here are going to yell and scream about Apple's locked down nature, I'm going to yell about their short sightedness. Apple screwed the pooch with iPhone OS 3. When they announced compatibility with attaching devices to it's dock connector, they should've also written up a serial API for joypad like devices with a set number of buttons and released a joypad accessory.
Then again I thought the iPad could benefit greatly from a stylus, just because of it's sheer size and annotating pages with a pen is easier than typing, but, that's just my POV.
i wish I could mod this '-1, Victim blaming'
I agree. i'm a little uneasy charging someone for what amounts to a thought crime, but if you smash a synagogue's window in, vandalize the place, and spray paint swastikas all over the place or you kill a transvestite and carve "FAG" into their chest, it's *very* clear, then let's call it what it is, terrorism.
Clearly someone doesn't remember their history very well. This is precisely what happened in the late 19th century.
That doesn't refute my assertation. If GM, Ford, et al, didn't have to play fair, would there even be a Nissan, Toyota, Mini, etc?
7th.
Oops. I thought it was 5th.
They have a marketcap that exceeds Microsoft's right now. You don't have to sell #1, just be profitable. It's what got Nintendo through the N64 and GC days.
Sounds about right for a reason to pull the app.
call me paranoid, but, I'm not comfortable with the idea of ANY userland app having even read-only access to the iOS filesystem.
Do you know anyone who would be able to raise the kind of startup capital that it would take to topple say, GM, Intel, Pfizer, et al?
Has it ever worked in the past that in the absence of regulation, large businesses were toppled in favor of smaller ones?
OR, has history shown instead, that very rich players in the market can and will use it's economic leverage to force smaller players out?
It's like saying, "If poker had no rules, any schmo would be able to beat Phil Ivey."
If instead of looking at the numbers of iOS devices sold versus Android, look at the number of Apple devices sold versus any other vendor. Right now, in the desktop and mobile computing markets, Apple is in the top 5 of all OEMs.
I simply cannot see how Apple will retain their lead in this fight.
Easy. They sell more hardware than any given OEM.
Apple doesn't need to pick fights with Google, they need to pick fights with RIM, HTC, Samsung, Motorola, et al.