If you go through http://www.netscape.com, click on download, etc, etc you'll find NS6.0 preview release. I guess the FTP server only allows connections through the web site.
> America(by this I mean most english speaking countries...
Since when does America mean the English-speaking world. Is it the same reasoning that induces people to refer to Bill Clinton as the President of the Free World? Or whatever the title is.
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I have my home machine powered down most of the time (it's a Laptop) so I miss jobs. But I think the last thing I want when switching it on to quickly check something is for updatedb to hog all my disk & CPU access. How intelligent are these cron replacements?
This article reminds me of a posting someone made a week or two back criticizing the fact that Linux comes in many distributions. MS doesn't only ship their OS in 2 flavours, they ship 2 completely different OSs!
Okay, so they are similar in terms of their interface, but no-one would seriously use a Win9x box as a file server or web server would they? NT for servers, WIn9x for clients. So we have Debian, Slackware, maybe RH for serious serving and Caldera, and others for serious click-here-dummy client machines. And they are a heck-of-a-lot more compatable with each other than NT and Win9x!
I also think RedHat is great. I just don't like using it. But I don't like S.u.S.E (which I'm planning to switch to next upgrade) for same reason: (Almost) all RPMs want to install in/. I hate this. (That's / fullstop, btw, not slashdot)
Why must everything including the kitchen sink go in/? Isn't that the whole idea of/usr/local (or/opt,/vol,/your-preference)? I'm sick of having to grow my / partition, repartitioning my drive, each upgrade. Currently standing at 450Mb and proving too small. I like to keep / small.
Anyone else feel like this? An RPM format with a selectable destination would be nice, even if it means putting soft links back to/.
Actually this would make a good AskSlashdot if it hasn't been done before: How do other distributions compare on this? I've only used RH, S.u.S.E, Caldera and Slackware in the old days. All (except Slackware which does/didn't have RPMs) suffer from the same problem. What's debian like on this point?
On a related note, has there ever been an objective comparison of Linux dists? Not opinions on their quality, just what they are good/bad at, eg ease of installation, size of/, configurability, software bundled, etc.
Sounds like most ppl think LOC is a bad measure. Must say I'm inclined to agree. Personally I wouldn't have a clue how many lines I wrote last year - I measure my productivity in functionality I've implemented. And whether the client is happy. As a project leader my measure is how much revenue I've raised in new contracts.
Sooo..... who's got suggestions for a productivity measure that's more reliable than LOC but more quantitative than mine above??? Could make a good/. poll too. I'd say/. readers are among the most productive programmers out there and we probably represent a fair swag of countries.
Well guys, if this upgrade is bad publicity for Linux, sounds like we should do something. How about getting together and writing some hotel management software? Sounds to me like we've got a knowledgable poster in the field who could give us some specs. Could be a real coup if we pull it off. Goal: stop people wanting to `upgrade' to Win95!
BTW, I'm actually moderately serious. Anyone interested in setting up some a workgroup, reply to this or drop me a line.
I've just installed a version of Caldera for my hitherto Windows using in-laws. The version I got hold of isn't completely CLI-free but it came with a very cute easy-to-read glossy book covering just about everything I can think of that a newbie would want to use - Netscape, Star Office, kde, gimp, adding users, printers, setting up ppp, all of which come on the CD.
Okay, it's not brilliant and I'll be sticking with RH or S.u.S.E. for myself but then again I'm not a newbie. I set the machine up as a dual boot Caldera/Win98 box (hey, they're newbies afterall) and the proof as to whether Caldera are successful will be in how much time they spend in Linux and how much time they spend in Win98. I'll be interested in seeing how Caldera's dist develops.
The book, btw, is H ow to use Linux by Bill Ball, published by SAMS.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not being paid to advertise this book - I just found it helpful
The readlink() function tells you both whether a given file is a symlink and where the symlink goes, so testing whether something is a symlink could indeed be a possibility.
It would have to be called recursively, wouldn't it? A symlink might point to another symlink inside the exported area which points outside the exported area. Or does readlink() recurse?
>I love radio. Radio DJs are cool, and I want cool jingles in between my songs!:)
This is my third posting today. I must feel strongly or something. Or maybe I can't be stuffed working:)
Anywho, I agree. I gladly concede that a good DJ is better at mixing than I am. And on the subject of the music industry changing, the DJ is where it's at now. People don't make music anymore - they mix it.
Presumably if only crap music is coming out, then only crap mp3s are coming out. Just about everything is coming out these days. Get beyond the mainstream (which is, almost by definition, crap).
Hate to disagree with the venerable CmdrTaco but, well, I disagree. I like radio cos of the sense of community. Well actually no - radio where I live is **** but music TV here is good. I can talk about programs that were on the previous evening with friends.
Even more importantly, I hear stuff on the radio/TV that I never would have known about otherwise or never would have chosen to listen to. And anyway, I like the randomness of it. I have a CD collection to rival anyones MP3 collection but most of the time I listen to the radio or music TV.
All this bickering about licence? Those ppl who painfully point out that QPL is not GPL,
a) Who cares? If that's how you think then presumbaly you only write free software, in which case there is nothing wrong with QPL
b) Troll Tech is actually a company, and need income if they are going to feed and clothe their children, etc. There income is from selling Qt and, to their credit, they've decided they can do without the income from the free-software sector.
I use Qt. So far only for free stuff. However if I want to use it for my employer, my employer will pay for it. I think that is reasonable.
And while I'm having my 2c worth, those RedHat users who are dissapointed by RH's decision, well, don't use KDE. No reason to stop buying RedHat.
How 'bout the Japanese version (subtitled or
unsubtitled)? Is/will it be released on DVD? Does MGM have its rights too?
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Unless you don't mind hitting non-military tagets, or if you don't mind hitting non-military targets?
If you go through http://www.netscape.com, click on download, etc, etc you'll find NS6.0 preview release. I guess the FTP server only allows connections through the web site.
Dunno.
It's there though.
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> America(by this I mean most english speaking countries...
Since when does America mean the English-speaking world. Is it the same reasoning that induces people to refer to Bill Clinton as the President of the Free World? Or whatever the title is.
I have my home machine powered down most of the time (it's a Laptop) so I miss jobs. But I think the last thing I want when switching it on to quickly check something is for updatedb to hog all my disk & CPU access. How intelligent are these cron replacements?
This article reminds me of a posting someone made a week or two back criticizing the fact that Linux comes in many distributions. MS doesn't only ship their OS in 2 flavours, they ship 2 completely different OSs!
Okay, so they are similar in terms of their interface, but no-one would seriously use a Win9x box as a file server or web server would they? NT for servers, WIn9x for clients. So we have Debian, Slackware, maybe RH for serious serving and Caldera, and others for serious click-here-dummy client machines. And they are a heck-of-a-lot more compatable with each other than NT and Win9x!
I also think RedHat is great. I just don't like using it. But I don't like S.u.S.E (which I'm planning to switch to next upgrade) for same reason: (Almost) all RPMs want to install in /. I hate this. (That's / fullstop, btw, not slashdot)
Why must everything including the kitchen sink go in /? Isn't that the whole idea of /usr/local (or /opt, /vol, /your-preference)? I'm sick of having to grow my / partition, repartitioning my drive, each upgrade. Currently standing at 450Mb and proving too small. I like to keep / small.
Anyone else feel like this? An RPM format with a selectable destination would be nice, even if it means putting soft links back to /.
Actually this would make a good AskSlashdot if it hasn't been done before: How do other distributions compare on this? I've only used RH, S.u.S.E, Caldera and Slackware in the old days. All (except Slackware which does/didn't have RPMs) suffer from the same problem. What's debian like on this point?
On a related note, has there ever been an objective comparison of Linux dists? Not opinions on their quality, just what they are good/bad at, eg ease of installation, size of /, configurability, software bundled, etc.
Sounds like most ppl think LOC is a bad measure. Must say I'm inclined to agree. Personally I wouldn't have a clue how many lines I wrote last year - I measure my productivity in functionality I've implemented. And whether the client is happy. As a project leader my measure is how much revenue I've raised in new contracts.
Sooo..... who's got suggestions for a productivity measure that's more reliable than LOC but more quantitative than mine above??? Could make a good /. poll too. I'd say /. readers are among the most productive programmers out there and we probably represent a fair swag of countries.
Well guys, if this upgrade is bad publicity for Linux, sounds like we should do something. How about getting together and writing some hotel management software? Sounds to me like we've got a knowledgable poster in the field who could give us some specs. Could be a real coup if we pull it off. Goal: stop people wanting to `upgrade' to Win95!
BTW, I'm actually moderately serious. Anyone interested in setting up some a workgroup, reply to this or drop me a line.
I've just installed a version of Caldera for my hitherto Windows using in-laws. The version I got hold of isn't completely CLI-free but it came with a very cute easy-to-read glossy book covering just about everything I can think of that a newbie would want to use - Netscape, Star Office, kde, gimp, adding users, printers, setting up ppp, all of which come on the CD.
Okay, it's not brilliant and I'll be sticking with RH or S.u.S.E. for myself but then again I'm not a newbie. I set the machine up as a dual boot Caldera/Win98 box (hey, they're newbies afterall) and the proof as to whether Caldera are successful will be in how much time they spend in Linux and how much time they spend in Win98. I'll be interested in seeing how Caldera's dist develops.
The book, btw, is H ow to use Linux by Bill Ball, published by SAMS.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not being paid to advertise this book - I just found it helpful
The readlink() function tells you both whether a given file is a symlink and where the symlink goes, so testing whether something is a symlink could indeed be a possibility.
It would have to be called recursively, wouldn't it? A symlink might point to another symlink inside the exported area which points outside the exported area. Or does readlink() recurse?
>I love radio. Radio DJs are cool, and I want cool jingles in between my songs! :)
This is my third posting today. I must feel strongly or something. Or maybe I can't be stuffed working :)
Anywho, I agree. I gladly concede that a good DJ is better at mixing than I am. And on the subject of the music industry changing, the DJ is where it's at now. People don't make music anymore - they mix it.
Presumably if only crap music is coming out, then only crap mp3s are coming out. Just about everything is coming out these days. Get beyond the mainstream (which is, almost by definition, crap).
Hate to disagree with the venerable CmdrTaco but, well, I disagree. I like radio cos of the sense of community. Well actually no - radio where I live is **** but music TV here is good. I can talk about programs that were on the previous evening with friends.
Even more importantly, I hear stuff on the radio/TV that I never would have known about otherwise or never would have chosen to listen to. And anyway, I like the randomness of it. I have a CD collection to rival anyones MP3 collection but most of the time I listen to the radio or music TV.
All this bickering about licence? Those ppl who painfully point out that QPL is not GPL,
a) Who cares? If that's how you think then presumbaly you only write free software, in which case there is nothing wrong with QPL
b) Troll Tech is actually a company, and need income if they are going to feed and clothe their children, etc. There income is from selling Qt and, to their credit, they've decided they can do without the income from the free-software sector.
I use Qt. So far only for free stuff. However if I want to use it for my employer, my employer will pay for it. I think that is reasonable.
And while I'm having my 2c worth, those RedHat users who are dissapointed by RH's decision, well, don't use KDE. No reason to stop buying RedHat.
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