Jefferson was wrong on a few things, but very few, and his idea on the copyright not being a Natural, inalienable right was spot on. It is a government-created privilege of monopoly, just like the government monopoly granted to Comcast (locally) or Baltimore Gas & Electric (statewide in maryland) or AT&T/Bell (nationwide, circa 1940-1980).
Other examples of government-created privileges are welfare checks, food stamps, and retirement SSI checks.
There is not, in nature, any such thing as a right to stop your ideas from being copied by others. (Unless you lock those ideas away in a safe or your head.) On the contrary nature designed ideas to be shared, as a person can light his lamp by my fire, without diminishing my own utility.
And I'm sorry for your friend but I don't think photos should be copyrighted. Nature and images of same belong to all the people. Otherwise I could take a photo of my house, and then try to sue anyone else (like googlemaps) who tries to publish another image of my house.
I can see copy-protected paintings, which are an expression of the artist, but not photos of real world objects.
Spoken like a person who hasn't taken even 1 class in natural rights philosophy. Nature has given you a body, which means you have innate rights that come with that body (the right to think, the right to speak, the right to defend yourself from harm, and so on().
The law is the law - you must have insurance in your EU or US state. Whether that law is enforced with human eyes or camera eyes really makes no difference (IMHO). I have to waste ~$300 a year to insure other drivers & their cars in case I hit them..... I don't see why anyone else thinks they shouldn't have to pay the bill too.
It doesn't look like the warrant was issued yet. The judge may turn it down, or severely limit its scope (only require Google to provide the passgesture, if they have it).
You don't need government. Even if government did not exist you have a natural right to defend yourself from my attack (i.e. kill me). That body was given to you by Nature and you have the right to protect it from harm.
You forgot the work is boring. Who wants to do a boring job? Good thing I can stream RT.com or radio or audiobooks to take my mind off the mind-numbingly dull work. I tell my family the more boring the job, the more you get paid, because few others want to do it.
By the way my pay has gone up. It's about 2.3 times larger than in 2001, though it requires moving around the country (no settling-down and raising a family). I'm surprised to hear people say their pay has stagnated.
>>>Facebook friends list is 80% men
Aside - Someone actually *criticized* me because most of my facebook friends are girls. I'm sorry but how is that a drawback??? He answered it's probably because I'm stalking women. (sigh). I pointed-out to this induhvidual that my liberal arts college had 2 girls for every guy... hence lots of classmates who are female and still friends today. (He then disappeared.)
Facebook flamewars are the worst - tons of dummies.
>>> Imagine, a typical Wal-Mart shopper saving money for their kids... for COLLEGE! HA ha ha ha
My parents did it. (Except in their day the discount chain was called K-Mart... same difference.) Not everyone is rich enough to afford a $10 coffee at Starbucks, or other overpriced goods. Discount stores help people stretch their money.
ATT (and others) didn't arbitrarily add the 3 gig cap. They did it because customers were complaining about slow connections or dropped connections (like my hotel Wifi). Their network had reached max capacity.
Oh and I agree about the false-advertising "unlimited". I hope the government nails them to the wall with a class-action lawsuit. But if you expect wireless internet to always be unlimited, forever, then you're fooling yourself. There is only one spectrum and it is shared with ~1000 other people per cell.
Plus TV and radio and emergency band. There's not enough room for everyone to be watching Bluray quality videos at the same time.
Rights are not revocable. Nor do they expire. Therefore the monopoly granted to authors, which is both revocable and fixed time, is not a right. It's a temporary monopoly privilege granted by government, in the same way Comcast is granted a temporary monopoly privilege by local cities or counties.
Thomas Jefferson argued very eloquently that so-called "copyright" is not in fact a natural right:
"If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it.
"He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his tapir at mine, receives light without darkening me. Ideas cannot then, in nature, be an exclusive right of property." i.e. Not a natural right but a government-created privilege. And why he argued the Bill of Rights should limit copyright to a fixed time limit of 17 years. (The Congress later set it at 14 years with possibility of renewal by the original author, if he were still alive.)
Why does written history only go back 10,000 years? Our ice age ancestors were smart enough to write - did the literature get lost over time? (Like greek and roman music was lost.)
Saying Mosaddeq was communist is like the idiots who claim Obama is communist. There's no truth to it. (And even if either of those 2 things were true, that's what elections are for: So the people can remove the president. No need for outside military interference.)
It doesn't bother me that my ISP has my private information. Because they aren't the real danger. The real danger is the Department of Homeland Security or other cop going to the ISP and demanding a printout of every website I've ever visited.
And even the most-protective of corporations can't turn down a Patriot Act request (aka warrantless search). They must comply. So why bother paying for extra security that doesn't really exist?
>>>Fixing banks with less regulation is like fixing Lindsay Lohan with more cocaine.
I agree. But the truth is the number of regulations during the Bush era increased from 110,000 to 150,000 pages. To say he "deregulated", or that it caused the housing bubble, is so far from the truth it's ridiculous.
BTW most of those regulations are god-awful stupid, like saying a banana must have at least 15 degrees of curvature or else it must be destroyed. And labeling water bottles with, "Drinking water does not cure dehydration."
I'm not against regulations (especially the top regulations like the Constittuion and Bill of rights which block the government from harming us). I'm against stupid regulations that drive small business owners into bankruptcy and favor the consolidation of megacorp' power. That's what Congress has been busy passing these last several years.
The U.S. during the Cold War overthrew more countries than I can keep track of (or propped-up tyrants like Saddam Hussein).
But since this topic is about Iran..... we overthrew their democratically-elected government in the 1950s and replaced it with a dictator (or king but that's the same difference). Why? We wanted their oil and a puppet to ensure we'd have it. Those old enough to remember the hell of living under that dictator have hated us ever since. And I don't blame them one bit.
Oh and yes we started Desert Storm. We encouraged our long-time friend Saddam to invade Kuwait (document revealed by wikileaks & read on the floor by Congressman Paul). And then we acted surprised and attacked Saddam. We set it up. We executed it.
Same way we set-up Libya. And Syria (we have troops there now). Time to wake up. Do some research on Senator McCain and his pals.
Therefore we should cut-off food and starve 1 million Iranians just like we starved 1 million Iraqis during the 1990s embargo. And when that doesn't work (because it won't), we should bomb the hell out of them and kill (or maim) another 1 million innocent men, women, and children like we did in Iraq in 2002 to 2011.
Why don't we listen to the head of Israel's Mossad who said, "Iran is not an existential threat to us." Therefore there's no need for us to go over there and start starving or outright killing people. I don't understand this desire of the U.S. or its people to hold the record for the most corpses created during the last three decades. It reminds me of how another nation circa 1931 to 39. (No not Germany..... Japan in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam because they needed oil and natural resources.)
Was it Iran or someone else? It appears most of the hacking (and killing of nuclear power plant scientists) has been done by Israel, Britain, and the U.S.. The more I read the more I think Iran is being used as a patsy by Western warhawks:
It's typical for them to not bother with small claims cases. They don't even send a lawyer, so it's just the customer and the judge in the room, and the customer usually wins that first round. (Then the corporation will either appeal the case, or just let the decision stand.)
Yes true but there's a limit to how many towers you can add per cell, unless you intend there to be 1 tower for every block. At that point you might as well just forget the tower & run fiber optics to each home (cheaper with faster throughput).
I thought the reason GPL existed was because if it was not copyrighted, somebody like Microsoft or Google might copyright and claim the Linux Kernal and other OSS programs belonged to them? In other words a defensive measure.
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Jefferson was wrong on a few things, but very few, and his idea on the copyright not being a Natural, inalienable right was spot on. It is a government-created privilege of monopoly, just like the government monopoly granted to Comcast (locally) or Baltimore Gas & Electric (statewide in maryland) or AT&T/Bell (nationwide, circa 1940-1980).
Other examples of government-created privileges are welfare checks, food stamps, and retirement SSI checks.
There is not, in nature, any such thing as a right to stop your ideas from being copied by others. (Unless you lock those ideas away in a safe or your head.) On the contrary nature designed ideas to be shared, as a person can light his lamp by my fire, without diminishing my own utility.
And I'm sorry for your friend but I don't think photos should be copyrighted. Nature and images of same belong to all the people. Otherwise I could take a photo of my house, and then try to sue anyone else (like googlemaps) who tries to publish another image of my house.
I can see copy-protected paintings, which are an expression of the artist, but not photos of real world objects.
Spoken like a person who hasn't taken even 1 class in natural rights philosophy. Nature has given you a body, which means you have innate rights that come with that body (the right to think, the right to speak, the right to defend yourself from harm, and so on().
The law is the law - you must have insurance in your EU or US state. Whether that law is enforced with human eyes or camera eyes really makes no difference (IMHO). I have to waste ~$300 a year to insure other drivers & their cars in case I hit them..... I don't see why anyone else thinks they shouldn't have to pay the bill too.
It doesn't look like the warrant was issued yet. The judge may turn it down, or severely limit its scope (only require Google to provide the passgesture, if they have it).
You don't need government. Even if government did not exist you have a natural right to defend yourself from my attack (i.e. kill me). That body was given to you by Nature and you have the right to protect it from harm.
You forgot the work is boring. Who wants to do a boring job? Good thing I can stream RT.com or radio or audiobooks to take my mind off the mind-numbingly dull work. I tell my family the more boring the job, the more you get paid, because few others want to do it.
By the way my pay has gone up. It's about 2.3 times larger than in 2001, though it requires moving around the country (no settling-down and raising a family). I'm surprised to hear people say their pay has stagnated.
>>>Facebook friends list is 80% men
Aside - Someone actually *criticized* me because most of my facebook friends are girls. I'm sorry but how is that a drawback??? He answered it's probably because I'm stalking women. (sigh). I pointed-out to this induhvidual that my liberal arts college had 2 girls for every guy... hence lots of classmates who are female and still friends today. (He then disappeared.)
Facebook flamewars are the worst - tons of dummies.
>>>My god you are such and incredible faggot
Why thank you Anon. Coward!
I'm sharing this with my boyfriend.
>>> Imagine, a typical Wal-Mart shopper saving money for their kids... for COLLEGE! HA ha ha ha
My parents did it. (Except in their day the discount chain was called K-Mart... same difference.) Not everyone is rich enough to afford a $10 coffee at Starbucks, or other overpriced goods. Discount stores help people stretch their money.
ATT (and others) didn't arbitrarily add the 3 gig cap. They did it because customers were complaining about slow connections or dropped connections (like my hotel Wifi). Their network had reached max capacity.
Oh and I agree about the false-advertising "unlimited". I hope the government nails them to the wall with a class-action lawsuit. But if you expect wireless internet to always be unlimited, forever, then you're fooling yourself. There is only one spectrum and it is shared with ~1000 other people per cell.
Plus TV and radio and emergency band. There's not enough room for everyone to be watching Bluray quality videos at the same time.
Or more to the point:
Rights are not revocable. Nor do they expire. Therefore the monopoly granted to authors, which is both revocable and fixed time, is not a right. It's a temporary monopoly privilege granted by government, in the same way Comcast is granted a temporary monopoly privilege by local cities or counties.
Thomas Jefferson argued very eloquently that so-called "copyright" is not in fact a natural right:
"If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it.
"He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his tapir at mine, receives light without darkening me. Ideas cannot then, in nature, be an exclusive right of property." i.e. Not a natural right but a government-created privilege. And why he argued the Bill of Rights should limit copyright to a fixed time limit of 17 years. (The Congress later set it at 14 years with possibility of renewal by the original author, if he were still alive.)
Why does written history only go back 10,000 years? Our ice age ancestors were smart enough to write - did the literature get lost over time? (Like greek and roman music was lost.)
They lasted til the end of the ice age and then died-out when the earth grew warmer. I wonder why? Any idea what they looked like?
(shrug). People make mistakes in life, and then later regret their actions. I'm not going to get all incensed at Andy Baio.
>>>who had a growing influense over Mosaddeq.
False.
Saying Mosaddeq was communist is like the idiots who claim Obama is communist. There's no truth to it. (And even if either of those 2 things were true, that's what elections are for: So the people can remove the president. No need for outside military interference.)
It doesn't bother me that my ISP has my private information. Because they aren't the real danger. The real danger is the Department of Homeland Security or other cop going to the ISP and demanding a printout of every website I've ever visited.
And even the most-protective of corporations can't turn down a Patriot Act request (aka warrantless search). They must comply. So why bother paying for extra security that doesn't really exist?
"Point zero zero two cents per kilobyte."
Okay. So that's that same as point zero zero two pennies, right?
"Yes sir."
Okay. So point zero zero two pennies times 35,500 kilobytes == 71 pennies. I owe you 71 pennies. And I'm not paying a penny more asshole Verizon.
"We'll cancel your account."
I don't give a shit. I'm switching to Sprint. Where I can hear a pin drop. ;-)
>>>Fixing banks with less regulation is like fixing Lindsay Lohan with more cocaine.
I agree. But the truth is the number of regulations during the Bush era increased from 110,000 to 150,000 pages. To say he "deregulated", or that it caused the housing bubble, is so far from the truth it's ridiculous.
BTW most of those regulations are god-awful stupid, like saying a banana must have at least 15 degrees of curvature or else it must be destroyed. And labeling water bottles with, "Drinking water does not cure dehydration."
I'm not against regulations (especially the top regulations like the Constittuion and Bill of rights which block the government from harming us). I'm against stupid regulations that drive small business owners into bankruptcy and favor the consolidation of megacorp' power. That's what Congress has been busy passing these last several years.
The U.S. during the Cold War overthrew more countries than I can keep track of (or propped-up tyrants like Saddam Hussein).
But since this topic is about Iran..... we overthrew their democratically-elected government in the 1950s and replaced it with a dictator (or king but that's the same difference). Why? We wanted their oil and a puppet to ensure we'd have it. Those old enough to remember the hell of living under that dictator have hated us ever since. And I don't blame them one bit.
Oh and yes we started Desert Storm. We encouraged our long-time friend Saddam to invade Kuwait (document revealed by wikileaks & read on the floor by Congressman Paul). And then we acted surprised and attacked Saddam. We set it up. We executed it.
Same way we set-up Libya.
And Syria (we have troops there now).
Time to wake up.
Do some research on Senator McCain and his pals.
Therefore we should cut-off food and starve 1 million Iranians just like we starved 1 million Iraqis during the 1990s embargo. And when that doesn't work (because it won't), we should bomb the hell out of them and kill (or maim) another 1 million innocent men, women, and children like we did in Iraq in 2002 to 2011.
Why don't we listen to the head of Israel's Mossad who said, "Iran is not an existential threat to us." Therefore there's no need for us to go over there and start starving or outright killing people. I don't understand this desire of the U.S. or its people to hold the record for the most corpses created during the last three decades. It reminds me of how another nation circa 1931 to 39. (No not Germany..... Japan in China, Taiwan, and Vietnam because they needed oil and natural resources.)
Was it Iran or someone else? It appears most of the hacking (and killing of nuclear power plant scientists) has been done by Israel, Britain, and the U.S.. The more I read the more I think Iran is being used as a patsy by Western warhawks:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/world/middleeast/16stuxnet.html?_r=2&hp
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/230303.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet#Speculations_about_the_target_and_origin
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1334001/Iranian-nuclear-scientist-killed-wounded-separate-bomb-attacks.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/11/washington/11iran.html?scp=1&sq=january 2009 sanger bush natanz&st=cse
Hardly. I hate corporations.
It's typical for them to not bother with small claims cases. They don't even send a lawyer, so it's just the customer and the judge in the room, and the customer usually wins that first round. (Then the corporation will either appeal the case, or just let the decision stand.)
Yes true but there's a limit to how many towers you can add per cell, unless you intend there to be 1 tower for every block. At that point you might as well just forget the tower & run fiber optics to each home (cheaper with faster throughput).
I thought the reason GPL existed was because if it was not copyrighted, somebody like Microsoft or Google might copyright and claim the Linux Kernal and other OSS programs belonged to them? In other words a defensive measure.