>>>And hence why i do not and cannot respect him.. Either you believe in free information or not. Hes holding secrets for political gain, jsut like anyone else in the game
As I opposed to someone who doesn't play and just sits on his fat ass. Teddy Roosevelt said something about liking those who try and fail to reach their lofty goals, more than those who don't try and fail through default.
I've met some who are Christians, Jews, et cetera but not creationists and believed in the Big Bang theory, but their number is only about 0.5%
So that means the other 99.5% of Christians, Jews, etc are creationists..... whom you hate ("bigoted against and proud of it"). Still makes you look bad.
You left-out the State government itself (say Texas for example). And Texas could borrow money from other states, in the same fashion that Italy borrowed money from the other EU states.
The EU doesn't have a FEMA and yet they seem to get along just fine. The Member states take care of themselves.
As for the people claiming I'm "ignorant" that's really so sad, especially when those people say ridiculous crap like "The troops hate Ron Paul and would overthrow his government."
Come on. It only takes 30 minutes to visit Paul's website and quickly discover that the troops have given twice as much money (millions of dollars) than all the other candidates. I've been educating myself on Paul's policies and bills since the year 2000, and politics in general, and these sad sacks can't even take half-an-hour to look at the Troops Donations. I weep for the ignorance of our voters.
No wonder we just keep getting the same policies over-and-over. 8 years of Bush. Then 4 more years of Bush (Obama). And soon another 4 years of Bush (obama or romney). People don't bother to do any research before they vote, and keep electing the same pro-war, anti-freedom candidate again and again.
>>>And that worked really so last time you did it, at the end of the Cold War...
We never withdrew troops. We started another war. We STILL have bases in Germany and Japan and Italy, 60 years after WW2 ended. Also bases in South Korea, Somalia, Bosnia, France, England, and 130 other countries.
We occupied the world during the 1945-90 timespan and never left.
>>>He could issue the order, but if the military hates him enough - they would disobey him, and possibly overthrow the government.
One of the stupidist sentences ever. Especially since the troops WANT to end the war and come home. Ron Paul has received twice as many contributions as all other candidates combined. The troops love Paul and want him as their president.
Good Good people.
Don't you do ANY research before you badmouth the candidates? All it would take is half-an-hour to read Paul's website and learn these things (like how the troops love him & gave him millions of dollars out their OWN money).
No I don't. I merely need to show why Ron Paul is better than Banker Billionaire Romney and Lobbyist Sellout Gingrich.
I think I've already done that. (1) Balance the budget and start paying down the debt that, if we don't do something, will cause a Greece or Italy-style collaapse. (2) End the killing of innocent foreigners. (3) Bring the troops home (as they have requested) to defend our shores. (4) Repeal the indignity and 1984-like tyranny of the Patriot Act, NDAA, and TSA.
Neither Romney or Gingrich will do either of those things, so I consider them no better than Obama. I will not vote for them. I will vote for Ron Paul who I have supported since the year 2000 when I first heard of him.
Maybe if a better candidate came-along, like a Thomas Jefferson, then I'd vote for that guy.
The number of regulations has increased by 60,000 pages since 2000 (Clinton's last year) to 2008 (Bush's last year). That is not de-regulation. You've been washed by the media into believing a lie.
Jeez. I was giving an *example*. I'll adjust it to better reflect the real spending increases these last few years:
- But you increased spending by 15%! - "Right. But we had originally planned to increase spending by 25%, so we've cut our original goals. We made cuts. You should reelect us."
Okay setting aside the "crazy" here's what I predict:
- Mitt Romney will be president
- 1 or 2 years from now we'll be at War with Iran. And *possibly* Russia (who have pledged to defend them).
- And then I'll sit here and say, "Told you should have voted for the peaceful Republican who wanted to dismantle 900 based in 130 foreign occupied countries, and bring the troops home to guard our own borders."
Okay setting aside the "crazy" here's what I predict:
- Mitt Romney will be president - 1 or 2 years from now we'll be at War with Iran. And also Russia (who have pledged to come o their assistance). - And then I'll sit here and say, "Told you should have voted for the peaceful Republican who wanted to dismantle 900 based in 130 foreign occupied countries, and bring the troops home to guard our own borders."
>>>"1) This alone shows how fucking ignorant you are. Congress can override a veto"
Yeah but how easily? Not easy at all. My original point that he can keep vetoing a budget he doesn't like still stands.
(2) Why don't we just ask the Afghans? "Leave. Now." is what they say. Maybe we should listen to them. As Ghandi told the Brits several decades ago: "You are masters in somebody else's home. It is time for you to leave. And yes we wll have problems but they will be OUR problems and OUR solutions. Not yours."
(3) I said repeal the Patriot spying/warrantless searches Act and repeal the Indefinite Detention NDAA (or the relevant portions thereof). I never said anything about deregulating corporations (who I hate). You committed a strawman (stupid) argument.
I'm not an economics person but there are plenty of people who do (like Ph.D. Walter E Williams and Thomas Sowell), and they are warning us of the current danger.
Or you could just look at Iceland, Greece and Italy. The U.S. has almost the same debt-to-GDP load they have. We are not immune to the same collapse as they did.
Already China and Russia are abandoning the dollar in order to trade directly with gold (or gold-backed SDRs). It's time to wake up. http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/
>>>The idea of a perfectly-balanced budget makes little sense for a government.
Clinton and the Democrats bargged about it in 1998 and 99. They said it would enable them to pay down some of the debt, and they were correct.
Our current national + state government debt is 18 trillion, or about $180,000 per American home. Add another $110,000 in personal mortgage/credit card debt per household.
Almost $300,000 of debt per American household is NOT a sustainable policy. Even if your "some liquid cash needs to be available" theory was correct, almost 300K/home worth of debt is a Greece or Italy-like situation. It is NOT good.
We need a balanced budget as soon as possible, so we can pay down some of that debt load.
Wow. You are the perfect example of somone who has been programmed by the media.
(1) You are bigoted against creationists? Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Hindus? Wiow. (2) And no he's not a racist. Here's video to prove it - http://youtu.be/i3EADdr-5AY
(3) >>>kill off all social programs
"We made a promise to our citizens to provide Medicare and Social Security, and we must honor that promise. I will make no cuts to those benefits, though people 25 and younger will have the option to opt-out. The cuts will be made through offering early retirement to government workers and soldiers. 1 trillion dollars cut by 2014/" - Ron Paul at his Budget Meeting
>>>"if we stand still, that's actually going forward! (head asplodes)."
You think like a Congressman! "We made significant cuts in the budget."
But you increased spending by 2%! "Right. But we had originally planned to increase spending by 5%, so we've cut our original goals. We made cuts. You should reelect us."
(1) He can veto, and veto, and veto again any budgets that increase spending. He can just sit tight until the Congress finally he gives him a balanced budget (or close to one).
(2) As Commander-in-Chief he could end the slaughter of innocent men, women, and children in Afghanistan almost immediately. He's simply order them to withdraw and come home.
(3) Also Ron Paul founded the Liberty Caucus in the Congress. It has about 100 members. All they need to do is swing a few Republicans and Democrats to join their cause, in order to get the 51% majority needed to pass laws. (Such as a repeal of the NDAA and Patriot Act.)
Not true. States have the power to regulate any commerce within their borders. If Hawaii wants to tell the Hawaiian branch of Comcast Cable to turn-over its records, they can do so. Their authority does not extend outside of that island state, but does include everything inside it.
Aside - Take unpasteurized milk for example.
It's perfectly legal to sell in the state of Pennsylvania, but not across the border (otherwise the U.S. will arrest the farmer). Right now idiot Washington bureaucrats are trying to punish some poor Amish farmer, because he sold some milk to Maryland tourists. (How was he supposed to know they were non-residents???)
So U.S. law says it's illegal, but PA says its legal. Unpasteurized milk can be sold within the PA borders and the U.S. can't do anything to stop it. (This is somewhat similar to how the EU can not overrule UK or French or German rule over their own terrotory.)
Yeah we need to stop being a poor debtor nation. The only person willing to balance the budget is Ron Paul.
But he's unelectable. And a kook. I'm not sure WHY he's either of those things, but CNN, FOX, NBC keep telling me it's true therefore I believe them.
Also those guys Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity on the Romney Radio network also say it, so that's double verification. (Who am to think on my own? I just do what the authorities tell me.)
"Flee? Where in the entire world does Rome's power not reach? There is No place to hide." - Senator Cicero when he was trying to flee from the tyranny of the Empire. We've now reached that same stage with the American Empire.
>>>I suspect citizens are an also ran
There's a 16 year old boy waiting to get extradited to the U.S. His crime? He linked to piratebay, megaupload, and other stires from his personal site. He's fighting it but so far the UK judges keep siding with the U.S. so I figure it's only a matter of time until he gets shipped across the Iron Curtain to the non-free America.
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>>>And hence why i do not and cannot respect him.. Either you believe in free information or not. Hes holding secrets for political gain, jsut like anyone else in the game
As I opposed to someone who doesn't
play and just sits on his fat ass.
Teddy Roosevelt said something about liking those who try and fail to reach their lofty goals, more than those who don't try and fail through default.
I've met some who are Christians, Jews, et cetera but not creationists and believed in the Big Bang theory, but their number is only about 0.5%
So that means the other 99.5% of Christians, Jews, etc are creationists..... whom you hate ("bigoted against and proud of it"). Still makes you look bad.
You left-out the State government itself (say Texas for example). And Texas could borrow money from other states, in the same fashion that Italy borrowed money from the other EU states.
The EU doesn't have a FEMA and yet they seem to get along just fine. The Member states take care of themselves.
Exactly.
As for the people claiming I'm "ignorant" that's really so sad, especially when those people say ridiculous crap like "The troops hate Ron Paul and would overthrow his government."
Come on. It only takes 30 minutes to visit Paul's website and quickly discover that the troops have given twice as much money (millions of dollars) than all the other candidates. I've been educating myself on Paul's policies and bills since the year 2000, and politics in general, and these sad sacks can't even take half-an-hour to look at the Troops Donations. I weep for the ignorance of our voters.
No wonder we just keep getting the same policies over-and-over. 8 years of Bush. Then 4 more years of Bush (Obama). And soon another 4 years of Bush (obama or romney). People don't bother to do any research before they vote, and keep electing the same pro-war, anti-freedom candidate again and again.
>>>And that worked really so last time you did it, at the end of the Cold War...
We never withdrew troops. We started another war. We STILL have bases in Germany and Japan and Italy, 60 years after WW2 ended. Also bases in South Korea, Somalia, Bosnia, France, England, and 130 other countries.
We occupied the world during the 1945-90 timespan and never left.
MAP - http://www.ppu.org.uk/pm/US-military-bases-2001-03.jpg
IRAN surrounded - http://wemeantwell.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/us-bases-in-the-middle-east-a.jpg
Relative U.S. verses Iran spending (I can see why we're scared) - http://dixienet.org/rebellion/images/MilSpending.jpg
>>>He could issue the order, but if the military hates him enough - they would disobey him, and possibly overthrow the government.
One of the stupidist sentences ever.
Especially since the troops WANT to end the war and come home. Ron Paul has received twice as many contributions as all other candidates combined. The troops love Paul and want him as their president.
Good Good people.
Don't you do ANY research before you badmouth the candidates? All it would take is half-an-hour to read Paul's website and learn these things (like how the troops love him & gave him millions of dollars out their OWN money).
No I don't. I merely need to show why Ron Paul is better than Banker Billionaire Romney and Lobbyist Sellout Gingrich.
I think I've already done that. (1) Balance the budget and start paying down the debt that, if we don't do something, will cause a Greece or Italy-style collaapse. (2) End the killing of innocent foreigners. (3) Bring the troops home (as they have requested) to defend our shores. (4) Repeal the indignity and 1984-like tyranny of the Patriot Act, NDAA, and TSA.
Neither Romney or Gingrich will do either of those things, so I consider them no better than Obama. I will not vote for them. I will vote for Ron Paul who I have supported since the year 2000 when I first heard of him.
Maybe if a better candidate came-along, like a Thomas Jefferson, then I'd vote for that guy.
But Jefferson isn't here. Paul is it.
The number of regulations has increased by 60,000 pages since 2000 (Clinton's last year) to 2008 (Bush's last year). That is not de-regulation. You've been washed by the media into believing a lie.
Jeez. I was giving an *example*. I'll adjust it to better reflect the real spending increases these last few years:
- But you increased spending by 15%!
- "Right. But we had originally planned to increase spending by 25%, so we've cut our original goals. We made cuts. You should reelect us."
Okay setting aside the "crazy" here's what I predict:
- Mitt Romney will be president
- 1 or 2 years from now we'll be at War with Iran. And *possibly* Russia (who have pledged to defend them).
- And then I'll sit here and say, "Told you should have voted for the peaceful Republican who wanted to dismantle 900 based in 130 foreign occupied countries, and bring the troops home to guard our own borders."
>>>That's what life without FEMA looked like.
That's what life WITH fema looked like (Orleans a few years ago, and the recent floods in Vermont/New Hampshire).
Okay setting aside the "crazy" here's what I predict:
- Mitt Romney will be president
- 1 or 2 years from now we'll be at War with Iran. And also Russia (who have pledged to come o their assistance).
- And then I'll sit here and say, "Told you should have voted for the peaceful Republican who wanted to dismantle 900 based in 130 foreign occupied countries, and bring the troops home to guard our own borders."
>>>"1) This alone shows how fucking ignorant you are. Congress can override a veto"
Yeah but how easily?
Not easy at all. My original point that he can keep vetoing a budget he doesn't like still stands.
(2) Why don't we just ask the Afghans? "Leave. Now." is what they say. Maybe we should listen to them. As Ghandi told the Brits several decades ago: "You are masters in somebody else's home. It is time for you to leave. And yes we wll have problems but they will be OUR problems and OUR solutions. Not yours."
(3) I said repeal the Patriot spying/warrantless searches Act and repeal the Indefinite Detention NDAA (or the relevant portions thereof). I never said anything about deregulating corporations (who I hate). You committed a strawman (stupid) argument.
Ooops wrong link.
Correct link - http://rt.com/programs/capital-account/
Are these course free?
I'm bored and looking for some free college-level education. Maybe I should sign-up.
I'm not an economics person but there are plenty of people who do (like Ph.D. Walter E Williams and Thomas Sowell), and they are warning us of the current danger.
Or you could just look at Iceland, Greece and Italy. The U.S. has almost the same debt-to-GDP load they have. We are not immune to the same collapse as they did.
Already China and Russia are abandoning the dollar in order to trade directly with gold (or gold-backed SDRs). It's time to wake up. http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/
>>>The idea of a perfectly-balanced budget makes little sense for a government.
Clinton and the Democrats bargged about it in 1998 and 99. They said it would enable them to pay down some of the debt, and they were correct.
Our current national + state government debt is 18 trillion, or about $180,000 per American home. Add another $110,000 in personal mortgage/credit card debt per household.
Almost $300,000 of debt per American household is NOT a sustainable policy. Even if your "some liquid cash needs to be available" theory was correct, almost 300K/home worth of debt is a Greece or Italy-like situation. It is NOT good.
We need a balanced budget as soon as possible, so we can pay down some of that debt load.
Wow.
You are the perfect example of somone who has been programmed by the media.
(1) You are bigoted against creationists? Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Hindus? Wiow. (2) And no he's not a racist. Here's video to prove it - http://youtu.be/i3EADdr-5AY
(3) >>>kill off all social programs
"We made a promise to our citizens to provide Medicare and Social Security, and we must honor that promise. I will make no cuts to those benefits, though people 25 and younger will have the option to opt-out. The cuts will be made through offering early retirement to government workers and soldiers. 1 trillion dollars cut by 2014/" - Ron Paul at his Budget Meeting
>>>"if we stand still, that's actually going forward! (head asplodes)."
You think like a Congressman!
"We made significant cuts in the budget."
But you increased spending by 2%!
"Right. But we had originally planned to increase spending by 5%, so we've cut our original goals. We made cuts. You should reelect us."
A president has more power than you think.
(1) He can veto, and veto, and veto again any budgets that increase spending. He can just sit tight until the Congress finally he gives him a balanced budget (or close to one).
(2) As Commander-in-Chief he could end the slaughter of innocent men, women, and children in Afghanistan almost immediately. He's simply order them to withdraw and come home.
(3) Also Ron Paul founded the Liberty Caucus in the Congress. It has about 100 members. All they need to do is swing a few Republicans and Democrats to join their cause, in order to get the 51% majority needed to pass laws. (Such as a repeal of the NDAA and Patriot Act.)
IMHO :-)
Bummer.
LINK - http://youtu.be/wfcTHFC1DII
American version - http://youtu.be/Sx6Gy4jUu0E
>>>"only the feds can pass this type of law."
Not true. States have the power to regulate any commerce within their borders. If Hawaii wants to tell the Hawaiian branch of Comcast Cable to turn-over its records, they can do so. Their authority does not extend outside of that island state, but does include everything inside it.
Aside - Take unpasteurized milk for example.
It's perfectly legal to sell in the state of Pennsylvania, but not across the border (otherwise the U.S. will arrest the farmer). Right now idiot Washington bureaucrats are trying to punish some poor Amish farmer, because he sold some milk to Maryland tourists. (How was he supposed to know they were non-residents???)
So U.S. law says it's illegal, but PA says its legal. Unpasteurized milk can be sold within the PA borders and the U.S. can't do anything to stop it. (This is somewhat similar to how the EU can not overrule UK or French or German rule over their own terrotory.)
Yeah we need to stop being a poor debtor nation. The only person willing to balance the budget is Ron Paul.
But he's unelectable. And a kook. I'm not sure WHY he's either of those things, but CNN, FOX, NBC keep telling me it's true therefore I believe them.
Also those guys Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity on the Romney Radio network also say it, so that's double verification. (Who am to think on my own? I just do what the authorities tell me.)
(goes back to watching tv)
"Flee? Where in the entire world does Rome's power not reach? There is No place to hide." - Senator Cicero when he was trying to flee from the tyranny of the Empire. We've now reached that same stage with the American Empire.
>>>I suspect citizens are an also ran
There's a 16 year old boy waiting to get extradited to the U.S. His crime? He linked to piratebay, megaupload, and other stires from his personal site. He's fighting it but so far the UK judges keep siding with the U.S. so I figure it's only a matter of time until he gets shipped across the Iron Curtain to the non-free America.
It didn't have enough room to display the 8000x8000 image and froze.
May be time for an upgrade.