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>>>There were others before Debian [April 1993]: RedHat, Slackware, etc..... I had been used to RedHat, where you'd try to install a package, it would complain about dependencies..... you'd have to surf the web for someone who had an RPM for that dependency...
The web? In 1992? Hmmm. Maybe you met the Usenet or Fidonet or online BBSes.
It would be nice if some of these distributions that are basically identical would merge together. Linux would likely be less confusing to Windows users if they didn't look and see 50 different versions of it.
>>>IMHO you should seek alternatives to Kindle, if you are not prepared to read your books on a kindle device/app.
I am. I bought the kindle because of its e-ink design. I don't like looking at backlit screens, whereas the kindle is more like reading a paper, but it would ne nice to download the DRM-free books to my hard drive.
>>>Calm down, scared old man. You can still use your mouse, but if you can type, and are not scared by this paradigm, you can find anything you want by pressing the Windows key, then typing, then pressing enter.
Wow cool. Typing commands. It's like I've returned to my roots on an old Commodore 64! How primitive. Next I bet Microsoft will come-out a Model T and call it "progress". Damn idjits
>>>Posting to remove ability to mod story I submitted.
Bullshit. If you don't want to mod your own story, just don't mod it. It's that simple dummy.
As for apple "smoking crak" I'm not sure why this is news. Apple's bigest fans are non-computer artistic types, and all artists experiment with mind-enhancing drugs for an extra boost of creativity.
>>>>>Whether the EM waves you are emitting are visible or not makes no difference. >> >>What if a device is invented that can detect the minute changes in gravity
I was discussing ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES dumb fuck. What the hell are you talking about?!?!? Gravity waves have nothing to do with what I was discussing (the police intercepting the EM that you are giving off).
Way to invoke a strawman argument (inserting words into my mouth I never said). Shit head.
>>>>>You shouldn't need to ever use the keyboard just to open programs. >> >>I always wondered who put this into law?
It's a Graphical user interface. It is meant to be used with a mouse. If you have to reach for a keyboard just to open a fucking program, then you might as well dump the GUI and go back to a blinking cursor on a damn-text screen.
For me everytime I HAVE to reach for a keyboard, I consider that an example of poor implementation by a lazy programmer (and not user friendly at all). You shouldn't need a keyboard when using the GUI desktop. These are modern day PCs with mouse-accessible commands, not Atari 800s or Apple IIs with CLIs and inch-think manuals full of commands.
>>> if you're going to buy an ear of corn and notice it's GM, you can buy a different one that's not GM, and it will taste basically the same.
Except that it has no label, because the corporations lobbied the government to outlaw "no GM" labels. The whole point of this thread is that corporations will likely lobby to outlaw "no DRM" labels too, in order to protect their business.
>>>Then encode it to a higher resolution than 1080p. Wow, that was a hard solution...
Then the video would look like crap. (Extreme amount of macroblocking, mosquitos, and other artifacts.) Trying to squeeze a 2000p image onto a vinyl record (one hour per side) would be like trying to squeeze that same data onto a VHS tape. Or through a standard 6 MHz television channel.
The most they can handle is 1080p and even then it's not great quality. It would not look good at all. (Wow, that was not hard to understand... I should not have needed to explain it to you.)
The atmosphere at the light/dark termination zone does have some dispersive effect (which is why it's still light after the sun sets), but only a few dozen miles. So if you're in Moscow you will be totally unaware that the U.S. is being fried with 30 minutes of solar radiation. The massive rock we call "the earth" protects you.
Knowledge encoded in DNA would be cool, but it's not a very reliable method. DNA has a bad habit of denaturing if it gets too hold, or produces errors if not cloned properly (leading to a runaway cancer cell in some cases). DNA works "well enough" to get an organism to 15 years old & procreate itself to the next generation, but is far from perfect.
Bookmarked. My dialup plan is still cheaper though. SM offers 2GB for $25 whereas dialup gives me 14GB for $7. I download tons of TV shows/movies/books from my hotel rooms, all across the country.
Quoting in your sig the worst Star Trek show ever made? Wow. And yes Apple will get sued: By the European Union which mandated a standard connector (mini USB).
Because the bastards won't let me upgrade my hardware to OS 10.8 ("too old" they claim). Well maybe Apple is into planned obsolescene of good hardware, but Microsoft and Linux aren't. I have not done it yet but could install either of these OSes since Apple no longer thinks I'm worthy of support. (And yes this is another reason Apple is a "luxury" brand like Lexus or Acura.... high initial cost, plus short OS lifespan == high cost of ownership).
He probably saw that Nicholos Cage movie two nights ago about a sun EM pulse that "destroyed the ozone layer" and then wiped-out all on mankind in a fiery inferno (even people 1 mile below ground). Hence a massive loss of data.
Of course no EM pulse could destroy the ozone layer, and even if it did it wouldn't matter because it's the *magnetosphere* that protects us from EM events and that was still intact.
Plus even if something did set the world afire with flames, the event would not effect the humans living on the dark side of the earth. The U.S. might be toasted but China, Russia, and most of Europe would still be alive & well. (With their 24 hour news channels talking about the death of the heathen Americans... it was an act of God, Allah, Buddha, whatever.)
Basically this is a ridiculous "Ask Slashdot" arising from too many ridiculous Hollywood terror/fear films.
It would take some time to retype all the code but at least it would not be lost.
As for audio and video recordings, they would be lost unless you can find some way to record them on a non-erasable format like a vinyl record. RCA developed a record that could store video but the quality was no better than VHS. With MPEG4 compression that could be upped to HD quality, but you would still lose a lot of high frequency movie content (1080i =/= 2000p of today's movies). .
I don't see anything wrong with it. It's a circle with DRM FREE in the middle at a ~30 degree angle. It's clean and effective, and I'd certainly buy a product like that vs. the copyprotected/DRM version.
You mean like they made it illegal to brand "GM free" foods? Yeah. Lovely country we have here... the government sure does protect us from those bad companies selling tainted food. We might actually be better-off without the 3-letter agencies.
>>>you could hit the start button and stat typing what you wanted
Typing??? What is this? The time before mouse inputs? You shouldn't need to ever use the keyboard just to open programs.
And more BS from the review: "While it's possible to jury-rig some import vectors -- for example, exporting an Outlook Contacts database to a flat file and importing it to Google Contacts -- in general, there's no way I could find to get my existing stand-alone Office Outlook Calendar or Contacts, or Windows Contacts (Vista, Win7), into any of the Metro apps."
Nice. So you have to abandon all your previous work from Win XP/Vista/7 programs and retype everything fresh into the Win8 aps. What is this? 1979?
It looks like a step back to Windows 3.1 (which I hated). Instead of the convenience of having all your programs in a nice listing (the start menu), they are hidden in a bewildering mess of program groups & overlapping windows.
Curses. Back then I avoided the mess that was 3.1 by sticking with my Commodore Amiga until Win98 arrived, but now that option no longer exists.
And what do you expect? If you're driving down the highway and light is bouncing off your car, are police supposed to shut their eyes and stop intercepting the signal (thus letting you get away)? Whether the EM waves you are emitting are visible or not makes no difference.
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>>>There were others before Debian [April 1993]: RedHat, Slackware, etc..... I had been used to RedHat, where you'd try to install a package, it would complain about dependencies..... you'd have to surf the web for someone who had an RPM for that dependency...
The web?
In 1992?
Hmmm.
Maybe you met the Usenet or Fidonet or online BBSes.
It would be nice if some of these distributions that are basically identical would merge together. Linux would likely be less confusing to Windows users if they didn't look and see 50 different versions of it.
>>>IMHO you should seek alternatives to Kindle, if you are not prepared to read your books on a kindle device/app.
I am. I bought the kindle because of its e-ink design. I don't like looking at backlit screens, whereas the kindle is more like reading a paper, but it would ne nice to download the DRM-free books to my hard drive.
>>>Calm down, scared old man. You can still use your mouse, but if you can type, and are not scared by this paradigm, you can find anything you want by pressing the Windows key, then typing, then pressing enter.
Wow cool. Typing commands. It's like I've returned to my roots on an old Commodore 64! How primitive.
Next I bet Microsoft will come-out a Model T and call it "progress". Damn idjits
>>>Posting to remove ability to mod story I submitted.
Bullshit. If you don't want to mod your own story, just don't mod it. It's that simple dummy.
As for apple "smoking crak" I'm not sure why this is news. Apple's bigest fans are non-computer artistic types, and all artists experiment with mind-enhancing drugs for an extra boost of creativity.
>>>>>Whether the EM waves you are emitting are visible or not makes no difference.
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>>What if a device is invented that can detect the minute changes in gravity
I was discussing ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES dumb fuck. What the hell are you talking about?!?!? Gravity waves have nothing to do with what I was discussing (the police intercepting the EM that you are giving off).
Way to invoke a strawman argument (inserting words into my mouth I never said). Shit head.
>>>>>You shouldn't need to ever use the keyboard just to open programs.
>>
>>I always wondered who put this into law?
It's a Graphical user interface. It is meant to be used with a mouse. If you have to reach for a keyboard just to open a fucking program, then you might as well dump the GUI and go back to a blinking cursor on a damn-text screen.
For me everytime I HAVE to reach for a keyboard, I consider that an example of poor implementation by a lazy programmer (and not user friendly at all). You shouldn't need a keyboard when using the GUI desktop. These are modern day PCs with mouse-accessible commands, not Atari 800s or Apple IIs with CLIs and inch-think manuals full of commands.
>>> if you're going to buy an ear of corn and notice it's GM, you can buy a different one that's not GM, and it will taste basically the same.
Except that it has no label, because the corporations lobbied the government to outlaw "no GM" labels. The whole point of this thread is that corporations will likely lobby to outlaw "no DRM" labels too, in order to protect their business.
>>>Then encode it to a higher resolution than 1080p. Wow, that was a hard solution...
Then the video would look like crap. (Extreme amount of macroblocking, mosquitos, and other artifacts.) Trying to squeeze a 2000p image onto a vinyl record (one hour per side) would be like trying to squeeze that same data onto a VHS tape. Or through a standard 6 MHz television channel.
The most they can handle is 1080p and even then it's not great quality. It would not look good at all. (Wow, that was not hard to understand... I should not have needed to explain it to you.)
The atmosphere at the light/dark termination zone does have some dispersive effect (which is why it's still light after the sun sets), but only a few dozen miles. So if you're in Moscow you will be totally unaware that the U.S. is being fried with 30 minutes of solar radiation. The massive rock we call "the earth" protects you.
Knowledge encoded in DNA would be cool, but it's not a very reliable method. DNA has a bad habit of denaturing if it gets too hold, or produces errors if not cloned properly (leading to a runaway cancer cell in some cases). DNA works "well enough" to get an organism to 15 years old & procreate itself to the next generation, but is far from perfect.
Bookmarked.
My dialup plan is still cheaper though. SM offers 2GB for $25 whereas dialup gives me 14GB for $7. I download tons of TV shows/movies/books from my hotel rooms, all across the country.
Quoting in your sig the worst Star Trek show ever made? Wow. And yes Apple will get sued: By the European Union which mandated a standard connector (mini USB).
Because the bastards won't let me upgrade my hardware to OS 10.8 ("too old" they claim). Well maybe Apple is into planned obsolescene of good hardware, but Microsoft and Linux aren't. I have not done it yet but could install either of these OSes since Apple no longer thinks I'm worthy of support. (And yes this is another reason Apple is a "luxury" brand like Lexus or Acura.... high initial cost, plus short OS lifespan == high cost of ownership).
He probably saw that Nicholos Cage movie two nights ago about a sun EM pulse that "destroyed the ozone layer" and then wiped-out all on mankind in a fiery inferno (even people 1 mile below ground). Hence a massive loss of data.
Of course no EM pulse could destroy the ozone layer, and even if it did it wouldn't matter because it's the *magnetosphere* that protects us from EM events and that was still intact.
Plus even if something did set the world afire with flames, the event would not effect the humans living on the dark side of the earth. The U.S. might be toasted but China, Russia, and most of Europe would still be alive & well. (With their 24 hour news channels talking about the death of the heathen Americans... it was an act of God, Allah, Buddha, whatever.)
Basically this is a ridiculous "Ask Slashdot" arising from too many ridiculous Hollywood terror/fear films.
It would take some time to retype all the code but at least it would not be lost.
As for audio and video recordings, they would be lost unless you can find some way to record them on a non-erasable format like a vinyl record. RCA developed a record that could store video but the quality was no better than VHS. With MPEG4 compression that could be upped to HD quality, but you would still lose a lot of high frequency movie content (1080i =/= 2000p of today's movies).
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We must be looking at different logos. This looks okay to me:
https://static.fsf.org/dbd/DRM-free/DRM-free.png
Amazon sells DRM-free books? How do I get them off my kindle (or amazon) and into another reader..... like Word. ;-)
I don't see anything wrong with it. It's a circle with
DRM
FREE
in the middle at a ~30 degree angle. It's clean and effective, and I'd certainly buy a product like that vs. the copyprotected/DRM version.
You mean like they made it illegal to brand "GM free" foods? Yeah. Lovely country we have here... the government sure does protect us from those bad companies selling tainted food. We might actually be better-off without the 3-letter agencies.
Here's another site I want to nominate for the DRM-free logo. They even hand-out free books for download:
http://www.baenebooks.com/
http://www.baenebooks.com/c-1-free-library.aspx
Also known as TV.
>>>I could be convinced to sell you my old Amiga. It won't be cheap.
I'll buy it but only if it comes with the latest OS 4.1 installed. (And web-capable of course.)
>>>you could hit the start button and stat typing what you wanted
Typing??? What is this? The time before mouse inputs? You shouldn't need to ever use the keyboard just to open programs.
And more BS from the review: "While it's possible to jury-rig some import vectors -- for example, exporting an Outlook Contacts database to a flat file and importing it to Google Contacts -- in general, there's no way I could find to get my existing stand-alone Office Outlook Calendar or Contacts, or Windows Contacts (Vista, Win7), into any of the Metro apps."
Nice. So you have to abandon all your previous work from Win XP/Vista/7 programs and retype everything fresh into the Win8 aps. What is this? 1979?
It looks like a step back to Windows 3.1 (which I hated). Instead of the convenience of having all your programs in a nice listing (the start menu), they are hidden in a bewildering mess of program groups & overlapping windows.
Curses.
Back then I avoided the mess that was 3.1 by sticking with my Commodore Amiga until Win98 arrived, but now that option no longer exists.
Yeah they've been surveilling us for years.
And what do you expect? If you're driving down the highway and light is bouncing off your car, are police supposed to shut their eyes and stop intercepting the signal (thus letting you get away)? Whether the EM waves you are emitting are visible or not makes no difference.