>>>How on earth is this censorship, or controlling a market?
It is private censorship within the small area that Apple controls. And no the term does not only apply to a government. It can apply to private companies, or churches, or even your own home (you censor your kids from saying "fuck you"). Also cable TV when the private channels censor the nudity from movies.
You mean if I own a religious bookstore, I have to sell the Kama Sutra sex manual, "On the Road" which encourages drug use, and other vile filth? No sir. This is a free country and I should be able to decide what I wish to sell in my private business. It is not right that I should have to be forced out-of-a-job because of some stupid law that obliges me to sell items that are sinful.
Apple can censor whatever they want. This woman can publish her book in another store... like amazon. Or my store. Or her own store (or website).
>>>The Xbox 360 was supposed to last Microsoft until 2015, but if the Wii U is a success later this year, it'll likely decimate both hardware and software sales of Microsoft's outdated console.
That reminds me: In order to further deciminate Microsoft (whom I hate), I bought a "banned" X360 from ebay that can play DVD-R games that the seller generously provided. Problem is: I don't know where to find those downloadable games. A search on isohunt.com turned-up a few but nowhere near the whole 360 library. (thanks)
The guys who did the PalmPilot were former Newton engineers. They based their work upon what they learned from working at Apple. Had the Newton project never existed, neither would the Palm. (So yes it was a good thing Sculley pushed-forward the Newton project. It wasn't good for Apple since they messed-up the design, but it was good for us, the customers.) It's similar to how VHS would never have existed if Sony had not developed Betamax. Even though Betamax ultimately failed, it was good that Sony demo'd the product to JVC, who copied it as VHS, and ultimately good for us customers. Without the first, the second would not have existed.
I don't think you listened to a word I said. In the ~220 years since the U.S. has formed, NO third party has ever won the white house. Never. Not even once. To believe that's suddenly going to change is pretty foolish..... you might as well ask the ~80% of overweight voters to suddenly stop eating & become thin again. Not going to happen.
I meant full-screen VIDEO but left out the word. Atari ST and Amigas could do it in 1985, but certainly not IBM PC or the Microsoft OS.
>>>Commodore did not do preemptive multitasking in 1985.
Of course it did. It wasn't the rather lame cooperative multitasking we saw on Mac OS7 or Windows 3, but genuine preemptive tasking where the CPU stopped the current process and moved on to the next process.
And no I wasn't reading amiga propaganda... I actually owned one. I routinely ran 3-4 programs at the same time, and just for fun (and to demonstrate the multitasking) ran ~100 desktop cartoon animations at the same time.
I'm a bit surprised to hear you say Amiga could only singletask or cooperative task. You sound extremely uneducated when you say stupid shit like that..... well you did say you were a SALESMAN. It reminds me of the salesman I met at Staples last week..... he couldn't even answer a basic question like "How many gigahertz is this laptop?" He came-up with 1.6 which was flat wrong.
>>>why is that worthy of putting in a sig? I mean congratulations on your accomplishment. I'm sure I could custom build an i-7 equipped PC for cheaper than whatever one you bought.
Is that an offer? If you can build an i7 PC with Windows7 installed and 8GB of RAM plus 1TB drive for $500 shipped, I'll buy it from you. What's that? You CAN'T build it for that cheap? Oh okay. Well then stop talking trash. (And stop defending Apple; there's no reason an equal-spec Mac should cost ~$1250 shipped.)
>>>Do you mean to compare a subsidized HTC Evo 4G to an unsubsidized iPhone 4S
No dipshit. Strawman argument. Inserting words in my mouth!
I never said the HTC Evo 4 was subsidized. Pay-as-you-go, no contract VirginMobile does not subsidize its phones (and you should have known that dumbass). It costs $300 and is more advanced then the $650 iphone 4S.
Buying cheaper phones would also reduce theft. My ISP virginMobile sells the 4S for $650..... no wonder the thieves want it (so they can resell it and make a pretty penny). But I doubt any would waste their time stealing the HTC One V which has all the same functions, but only cost $200. It's not worth the effort.
And to address another gentleman: >>>>>Bought an i7-equipped PC for $650. An equal-speced MacMini costs almost double >> >>why is that worthy of putting in a sig? I mean congratulations on your accomplishment. I'm sure I could custom build an i-7 equipped PC for cheaper than whatever one you bought.
Is that an offer? If you can build an i7 PC with Windows7 installed and 8GB of RAM (expandable to 16GB) plus 1TB drive for $500 shipped, I'll buy it from you. What's that? You CAN'T build it for that cheap? Oh okay. Well then stop talking trash. (And stop defending Apple; there's no reason an equal-spec Mac should cost ~$1250 shipped.)
P.S. A friend gave me his old G3 and G4 for free back in 1999. The G3 had OS 10.2 which was hopelessly out of date (could only run IE5 and Safari 1). The G4 I installed 10.5 which worked but was slow-as-snails. So I sold both on ebay.
They went for $40 plus shipping. Equal to how much I got for my Win98 laptop one week earlier. So much for resale value and the "Macs hold prices better" falsehood. 10.5 is only about half as old as Win98, but it still only drew the price.
>>> To Apple you are not target audience, it's that simple.
No I'm not. Neither are most of us. So stop trying to ram the Mac down our throat and saying it's the only computer we should buy (or worse: that we were stupid to buy a Windows PC). I and the rest of us are not interesting in your Apple Bible-thumping.
>>>For one thing, you don't get OS X on a PC. Clearly that doesn't matter to you, but it does matter to some people.
It does indeed. I was just reading on ars technica about 10.7 and how it wouldn't talk over wifi. According to the article it took Apple three tries to finally fix the problem (10.7.3 release). That is piss poor.
So why on earth would I want to use that OS? It's no better than Windoze. And also Apple OSes get obsoleted in 3-4 years, whereas XP was supported for 10 years (until IE9 was released).
Doing so is listed on the Dept. of Homeland Security's "suspicious potential terrorist" activities. If you see it, you're supposed to "say it" to the DHS.
>>>Nobody is shouting anything. Wi-fi packets are being sent by a person's laptop/phone intended to be received by the home router.
Broadcasting at 1/4 watt is the radio equivalent of shouting, which is why the neighbors (or google) can see your signal on their PC screen upto a block away. As long as you are shouting you should not be surprised that others hear it. So encrypt it.
>>>Atari and Commodore were vastly vastly inferior to the PCs of the early 1980s
Okay. Give me an example of an IBM home PC that could play music-quality sound in 1979 (like Atari) or 1982 (Commodore). Or an example that could show full-screen in 1985 (both Atari & Commodore) or 1988 (Apple Mac).
Or 4000 colors in 1985 (Commodore). Or an example of an IBM home PC that could do preemptive tasking in 1985 (Commodore).
I had a USB drive that was sitting in an attic for 2 years w/o use. It had become "sticky" and didn't want to start spinning (just went click, click, click). After about 5 minutes it did eventually start so I downloaded a 6 hour radio show and played it back at 1/4 speed to keep the drive spinning. Now the drive starts-up without any problem.
In the whole history of the U.S. Republic, even before the Dems and Reps had made it difficult for third parties to get on the ballot, not a single third party has ever won the presidency. It has ALWAYS been the top 2 most popular parties. The best showing a third party ever had was 1/4th of Congress after the chaos of the civil war.
The only way a third party (example: LP) will ever win is if either the GOP or DNC suddenly dissolve themselves, thereby leaving a vacuum to be filled. And then that third party LP will no longer be a third party, because it will automatically be one of the top 2. That is how it has happened in the past (the whigs filled the vacuum left by the Federalists dissolution; the GOP filled the vacuum left in 1853 when the Whigs dissolved).
How is it possible for people to be so stupid? Anarchist and Libertarian are two different political philosophies. Anarchy == no government. There is not a single libertarian who advocates a no government solution, and definitely not the U.S-LP which is our third largest party.
Stop spreading FUD about "pure anarchy of libertarianism". It makes you sound like an idiot with zero brains.
You guys really think this applies JUST to megaupload or corporations in general? It also applies to use human beings thanks to NDAA2011 which allows the government to hold you indefinitely without trial. And now these recent statements make it appear they will hold you even after they lose the case because "this person was involved in criminal activities".
Isn't it wonderful the New Amerika that Obama and Bush have given us? The Constitution no longer has legal weight. It's rule of an oligarchy (the workers of the executive branch) to demolish or detain corporations & individuals at will. And trials be damned.
Also I still have an old laptop with Windows 3.1..... what a pile of trash that was. And a Windows98 laptop which can't even recognize a USB drive when I plug it in.
Where was this "golden age of Bill" because I don't see it, or remember it. What I remember was specifically avoiding Microsoft and choosing other operating systems (Commodore GEOS, Amiga 3000, Quadra Mac) for my preferred usage.
They can't "rip you off" if you don't buy their product. And from what I've read Sculley is unfairly maligned. He was the guy who pushed forward the Apple Newton..... had he not been in charge it would have been killed-off.
There seems to be this mythology about Microsoft "used to be innovative". I think back and don't recall ANY time where that was the case.
The first computers to have music-quality sound were Atari (1979) and Commodore (1982) and Apple Lisa (1983). Not Microsoft which didn't get sound blaster ability until years later.
The first computers to have enough GPU power to playback fullscreen videos were Atari and Commodore (1985) and Apple (1988). Not Microsoft.
The first computers to have true preemptive multitasking were Commodore (1985). Not Microsoft which took ten years to get, and it didn't work with the then-standard 16-bit apps. Only new 32-bit programs. (Apple didn't get it until 2001 with OS 10.1.)
The MS business model started by selling software to larger companies (Atari, Apple, Commodore, IBM, and the PC clone makers). Those same large companies did the innovating while Microsoft just followed along and copied what others had already done 5-10 years earlier. They were never innovative. Never.
>>>became the number one console manufacturer, and even more incredibly are now cooler than Sony and Nintendo in that area.
"Cooler" than Nintendo or Sony? Well that's just a matter of your OPINION because I like my Gamecube and Wii and PS2 games much much more than my Xbox or 360 collection (which mostly involves killing and more killing... they're nearly as boring as watching war movies).
But number one console manufacturer?
Pu-leeze. All it took was a search of wikipedia. With the original Xbox they achieved a statistical tie with the Gamecube (~22 million units +/- 3 million measurement error), and were absolutely crushed by the PS2 (only 1/6th as many units sold as ps2). AND NOW the Xbox360 is still stuck in 2nd place..... nowhere near being number one.
How on earth your post got modded "insightful" by posting the false claim that Xbox is "number one" when in fact it's almost 50 million units behind????? Well it's a mystery.
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>>>How on earth is this censorship, or controlling a market?
It is private censorship within the small area that Apple controls. And no the term does not only apply to a government. It can apply to private companies, or churches, or even your own home (you censor your kids from saying "fuck you"). Also cable TV when the private channels censor the nudity from movies.
You mean if I own a religious bookstore, I have to sell the Kama Sutra sex manual, "On the Road" which encourages drug use, and other vile filth? No sir. This is a free country and I should be able to decide what I wish to sell in my private business. It is not right that I should have to be forced out-of-a-job because of some stupid law that obliges me to sell items that are sinful.
Apple can censor whatever they want. This woman can publish her book in another store... like amazon. Or my store. Or her own store (or website).
>>>The Xbox 360 was supposed to last Microsoft until 2015, but if the Wii U is a success later this year, it'll likely decimate both hardware and software sales of Microsoft's outdated console.
That reminds me:
In order to further deciminate Microsoft (whom I hate), I bought a "banned" X360 from ebay that can play DVD-R games that the seller generously provided. Problem is: I don't know where to find those downloadable games. A search on isohunt.com turned-up a few but nowhere near the whole 360 library. (thanks)
The guys who did the PalmPilot were former Newton engineers. They based their work upon what they learned from working at Apple. Had the Newton project never existed, neither would the Palm. (So yes it was a good thing Sculley pushed-forward the Newton project. It wasn't good for Apple since they messed-up the design, but it was good for us, the customers.) It's similar to how VHS would never have existed if Sony had not developed Betamax. Even though Betamax ultimately failed, it was good that Sony demo'd the product to JVC, who copied it as VHS, and ultimately good for us customers. Without the first, the second would not have existed.
I don't think you listened to a word I said. In the ~220 years since the U.S. has formed, NO third party has ever won the white house. Never. Not even once. To believe that's suddenly going to change is pretty foolish..... you might as well ask the ~80% of overweight voters to suddenly stop eating & become thin again. Not going to happen.
I meant full-screen VIDEO but left out the word. Atari ST and Amigas could do it in 1985, but certainly not IBM PC or the Microsoft OS.
>>>Commodore did not do preemptive multitasking in 1985.
Of course it did. It wasn't the rather lame cooperative multitasking we saw on Mac OS7 or Windows 3, but genuine preemptive tasking where the CPU stopped the current process and moved on to the next process.
And no I wasn't reading amiga propaganda... I actually owned one. I routinely ran 3-4 programs at the same time, and just for fun (and to demonstrate the multitasking) ran ~100 desktop cartoon animations at the same time.
I'm a bit surprised to hear you say Amiga could only singletask or cooperative task. You sound extremely uneducated when you say stupid shit like that..... well you did say you were a SALESMAN. It reminds me of the salesman I met at Staples last week..... he couldn't even answer a basic question like "How many gigahertz is this laptop?" He came-up with 1.6 which was flat wrong.
You sound similarly uninformed.
>>>why is that worthy of putting in a sig? I mean congratulations on your accomplishment. I'm sure I could custom build an i-7 equipped PC for cheaper than whatever one you bought.
Is that an offer? If you can build an i7 PC with Windows7 installed and 8GB of RAM plus 1TB drive for $500 shipped, I'll buy it from you.
What's that?
You CAN'T build it for that cheap? Oh okay. Well then stop talking trash. (And stop defending Apple; there's no reason an equal-spec Mac should cost ~$1250 shipped.)
>>>Do you mean to compare a subsidized HTC Evo 4G to an unsubsidized iPhone 4S
No dipshit.
Strawman argument.
Inserting words in my mouth!
I never said the HTC Evo 4 was subsidized. Pay-as-you-go, no contract VirginMobile does not subsidize its phones (and you should have known that dumbass). It costs $300 and is more advanced then the $650 iphone 4S.
Buying cheaper phones would also reduce theft. My ISP virginMobile sells the 4S for $650..... no wonder the thieves want it (so they can resell it and make a pretty penny). But I doubt any would waste their time stealing the HTC One V which has all the same functions, but only cost $200. It's not worth the effort.
And to address another gentleman:
>>>>>Bought an i7-equipped PC for $650. An equal-speced MacMini costs almost double
>>
>>why is that worthy of putting in a sig? I mean congratulations on your accomplishment. I'm sure I could custom build an i-7 equipped PC for cheaper than whatever one you bought.
Is that an offer? If you can build an i7 PC with Windows7 installed and 8GB of RAM (expandable to 16GB) plus 1TB drive for $500 shipped, I'll buy it from you.
What's that?
You CAN'T build it for that cheap? Oh okay. Well then stop talking trash. (And stop defending Apple; there's no reason an equal-spec Mac should cost ~$1250 shipped.)
P.S. A friend gave me his old G3 and G4 for free back in 1999. The G3 had OS 10.2 which was hopelessly out of date (could only run IE5 and Safari 1). The G4 I installed 10.5 which worked but was slow-as-snails. So I sold both on ebay.
They went for $40 plus shipping. Equal to how much I got for my Win98 laptop one week earlier. So much for resale value and the "Macs hold prices better" falsehood. 10.5 is only about half as old as Win98, but it still only drew the price.
>>> To Apple you are not target audience, it's that simple.
No I'm not.
Neither are most of us.
So stop trying to ram the Mac down our throat and saying it's the only computer we should buy (or worse: that we were stupid to buy a Windows PC). I and the rest of us are not interesting in your Apple Bible-thumping.
>>>For one thing, you don't get OS X on a PC. Clearly that doesn't matter to you, but it does matter to some people.
It does indeed. I was just reading on ars technica about 10.7 and how it wouldn't talk over wifi. According to the article it took Apple three tries to finally fix the problem (10.7.3 release). That is piss poor.
So why on earth would I want to use that OS? It's no better than Windoze. And also Apple OSes get obsoleted in 3-4 years, whereas XP was supported for 10 years (until IE9 was released).
Doing so is listed on the Dept. of Homeland Security's "suspicious potential terrorist" activities. If you see it, you're supposed to "say it" to the DHS.
>>>Nobody is shouting anything. Wi-fi packets are being sent by a person's laptop/phone intended to be received by the home router.
Broadcasting at 1/4 watt is the radio equivalent of shouting, which is why the neighbors (or google) can see your signal on their PC screen upto a block away. As long as you are shouting you should not be surprised that others hear it. So encrypt it.
>>>All you'd do with your internet connection is watch TV?
Yeah pretty much.
Using the web doesn't use that much space (as evidenced by my use of 0.05 Mbit/s dialup to websurf when out-of-town).
>>>Atari and Commodore were vastly vastly inferior to the PCs of the early 1980s
Okay.
Give me an example of an IBM home PC that could play music-quality sound in 1979 (like Atari) or 1982 (Commodore). Or an example that could show full-screen in 1985 (both Atari & Commodore) or 1988 (Apple Mac).
Or 4000 colors in 1985 (Commodore). Or an example of an IBM home PC that could do preemptive tasking in 1985 (Commodore).
I had a USB drive that was sitting in an attic for 2 years w/o use. It had become "sticky" and didn't want to start spinning (just went click, click, click). After about 5 minutes it did eventually start so I downloaded a 6 hour radio show and played it back at 1/4 speed to keep the drive spinning. Now the drive starts-up without any problem.
In the whole history of the U.S. Republic, even before the Dems and Reps had made it difficult for third parties to get on the ballot, not a single third party has ever won the presidency. It has ALWAYS been the top 2 most popular parties. The best showing a third party ever had was 1/4th of Congress after the chaos of the civil war.
The only way a third party (example: LP) will ever win is if either the GOP or DNC suddenly dissolve themselves, thereby leaving a vacuum to be filled. And then that third party LP will no longer be a third party, because it will automatically be one of the top 2. That is how it has happened in the past (the whigs filled the vacuum left by the Federalists dissolution; the GOP filled the vacuum left in 1853 when the Whigs dissolved).
>>>the pure anarchy of the libertarian.
How is it possible for people to be so stupid? Anarchist and Libertarian are two different political philosophies. Anarchy == no government. There is not a single libertarian who advocates a no government solution, and definitely not the U.S-LP which is our third largest party.
Stop spreading FUD about "pure anarchy of libertarianism". It makes you sound like an idiot with zero brains.
You guys really think this applies JUST to megaupload or corporations in general?
It also applies to use human beings thanks to NDAA2011 which allows the government to hold you indefinitely without trial. And now these recent statements make it appear they will hold you even after they lose the case because "this person was involved in criminal activities".
Isn't it wonderful the New Amerika that Obama and Bush have given us? The Constitution no longer has legal weight. It's rule of an oligarchy (the workers of the executive branch) to demolish or detain corporations & individuals at will. And trials be damned.
Also I still have an old laptop with Windows 3.1..... what a pile of trash that was. And a Windows98 laptop which can't even recognize a USB drive when I plug it in.
Where was this "golden age of Bill" because I don't see it, or remember it. What I remember was specifically avoiding Microsoft and choosing other operating systems (Commodore GEOS, Amiga 3000, Quadra Mac) for my preferred usage.
They can't "rip you off" if you don't buy their product. And from what I've read Sculley is unfairly maligned. He was the guy who pushed forward the Apple Newton..... had he not been in charge it would have been killed-off.
There seems to be this mythology about Microsoft "used to be innovative". I think back and don't recall ANY time where that was the case.
The first computers to have music-quality sound were Atari (1979) and Commodore (1982) and Apple Lisa (1983). Not Microsoft which didn't get sound blaster ability until years later.
The first computers to have enough GPU power to playback fullscreen videos were Atari and Commodore (1985) and Apple (1988). Not Microsoft.
The first computers to have true preemptive multitasking were Commodore (1985). Not Microsoft which took ten years to get, and it didn't work with the then-standard 16-bit apps. Only new 32-bit programs. (Apple didn't get it until 2001 with OS 10.1.)
The MS business model started by selling software to larger companies (Atari, Apple, Commodore, IBM, and the PC clone makers). Those same large companies did the innovating while Microsoft just followed along and copied what others had already done 5-10 years earlier. They were never innovative. Never.
>>>became the number one console manufacturer, and even more incredibly are now cooler than Sony and Nintendo in that area.
"Cooler" than Nintendo or Sony? Well that's just a matter of your OPINION because I like my Gamecube and Wii and PS2 games much much more than my Xbox or 360 collection (which mostly involves killing and more killing... they're nearly as boring as watching war movies).
But number one console manufacturer?
Pu-leeze. All it took was a search of wikipedia. With the original Xbox they achieved a statistical tie with the Gamecube (~22 million units +/- 3 million measurement error), and were absolutely crushed by the PS2 (only 1/6th as many units sold as ps2). AND NOW the Xbox360 is still stuck in 2nd place..... nowhere near being number one.
How on earth your post got modded "insightful" by posting the false claim that Xbox is "number one" when in fact it's almost 50 million units behind????? Well it's a mystery.
Are you sure? Given the timing it sounds like these policies were put in place by Bill Gates when he was still CEO.