Reportedly the information Wikileaks was set to disclose about a particular bank back from December, "a massive batch of internal Bank of America emails" has been leaked.
Is this saying that Wikileaks' information was leaked by a third party?
As for bank foreclosure fraud, we've known for a year or more that banks have been doing that. A common case is that all the shady asset-juggling left things in a state that no one knows who actually has the rights to it, so the evictions are rushed through without proper legal scrutiny, or even on the basis of forged documents.
Plato goes to great lengths to try to persuade the reader that this is in fact a true story based on the what was told to a relative of his which Plato committed to memory when he was a boy.
See, if you read the _rest_ of Plato, you find that this is a very common trope for him. He distances himself from the truth of a statement by putting it at multiple layers of indirect speech.
And in this case it was "a heard it from b, who heard it from c, who heard it from..." Up to about g or so.
And this in a dramatic dialogue, which was a fictional vehicle for Plato's views. In this case, a report on the after-dinner conversation at a party Plato didn't attend (if it happened at all).
The main difference is that there are other ancient references to Troy in addition to Homer. As far as I have been able to discover, the only ancient reference we have to Atlantis is one place in Plato's writings.
Actually he mentions it in two different dialogues, though that hardly dulls your point.
I'm not sure Troy counts as mythical. As recently as the early Byzantine era a traveller from western Europe visited the site and reported with astonishment that he found the eternal flame at Achilles' tomb was burning. Turned out that the local Christian Bishop was keeping it up.
Western Europe went through a Dark Age, and later it became stylish for Western scholars to dismiss everything as myth, but the information has been around continuously since the Hellenic Dark Ages.
and Ur
Not sure why you call this one mythical either.
Shangri la is believed to actually be a series of villages along the Silk Road
IOW, somebody thinks it was a myth derived from a series of villages? Hardly fits the definition of a mythical city that turned out to be real.
Even the underwater part of Alexandria was once a myth but it has been found.
Part of Alexandria sank in an earthquake. There was no mythical city.
Even Pompeii was a mythic site at one time.
Don't know why you would say that. No lesser a person than Pliny the Younger watched it from across the bay and left us an eyewitness report.
IIRC, Pliny the Elder died in the event.
Do a little research and you might be surprised.
The only thing research has taught me is how ignorant the masses are. (And how ignorant I certainly am as well, on topics that I haven't researched.)
Most "mythical" cities have turned out to be real.
Most? Can you support that claim?
It will probably never be identified but it probably existed.
If you had the most rudimentary understanding of Plato's "Dramatic Dialogues", you'd realize that there's not the slightest reason to believe it ever existed.
Plato wrote fictions, usually starring the late Socrates, to convey his philosophy. The Socrates we all know and love is probably more nearly Plato's sock puppet than the real man. And any "ancient history" worked into the stories is made up to support the philosophy.
Usually Atlantis gets discovered every six months, but I haven't heard anything for nearly two years!
(Insert usual diatribe about the purpose of Plato's fiction, and the idiocy of anyone who believes it. Sorry, but I'm tired of typing it up everytime a new discovery is announced on Slashdot.)
As someone who suffers from SAD, depression, etc. I can attest to the fact that a strict sleep schedule is incredibly important to keeping me healthy and functional. DST rudely smashes all my carefully laid schedules and plans.
I keep a very irregular schedule, and I still feel crappy while DST is in effect. Presumably it's psychological, but who knows.
Just use Sawfish. I can maximize/unmaximize horizontally and vertically either independently or together, roll up windowshade style, and of course minimize or close, each with a single click. More options in a menu, which I could move to buttons if I used them often enough.
The first thing I do when I upgrade Ubuntu is start seeing what it's going to take to make Sawfish work.
Sawfish was GNOME's original WM. They've spent years replacing good functional WMs for less functional ones. Sounds like they've just about finished the race to the bottom.
All this general education was basically useless in getting my first job. Everyone wanted experience. Everyone wanted somebody who knew how to do this in specific, and they didn't care about all the general stuff I knew...
But they insist on a degree as well...
In my experience, there's a real "glass ceiling" between those who have degrees and those who don't. It literally doesn't matter what the degree is in; I've worked with programmers who had degrees in fine arts and the like, and they still operated above the glass, whereas perfectly competent self-taught programmers didn't.
But now that I'm actually out there working, all the general knowledge is coming in incredibly handy.
Yeah, learning things like order-of-growth makes a real difference in your thinking. In my experience, self-taught programmers tend to focus on optimization in the small - which is probably done better by any compiler off the shelf these days - and never give a thought to the algorithmic-level optimization that really matters.
Unless you're going to grad school, a publication probably won't help your CV very much. Maybe some exceptions, such as if you've done some original work in a specialized field that you hope to work in, but that's usually for grad students too.
BTW, a conference publication isn't considered a "journal" publication, and doesn't confer the same status. Conferences are where the work gets done: people present developing ideas and get feedback on them.
As someone already mentioned, the main reason to go is to meet people. If you're shy, it probably won't do any good. If you're outgoing, you can make some useful connections. But unless someone happens to have a hot job tip, those connections are something that have to be cultivated by going to the same conference year after year and talking to those same people again and again.
Unless you want to go (you don't sound like it), tell your prof you can't afford it. If s/he really wants you to go, let them find the money for it.
You're displaying the common geek rush-to-arms that a potential etymology defines acceptable meaning. English is defined, if at all, by how she is commonly used and understood.
I wholeheartedly endorse that view. (Notice my comment on convention in my original post.)
I think our difference here is on whether to interpret the phrase as a loan word, or as some actual Latin embedded in our English prose.
Loan words usually give themselves away via (oops!) dropped inflections, shifted stress, reduction of unstressed vowels, and sometimes reduction of the number of syllables, although for some reason we keep a latinesque stress pattern on Latin loan words. So "civilization" lacks the Latin inflection, has -tio- reduced to a single syllable, has the second and third "i"s reduced to an "uh" sound, as well as the "io", but keeps the primary stress on a syllable that would have worked for Latin (at least in the nominative singular), rather than moving it to the front. The pronunciation of "c" as/s/ rather than/k/ and "v" as/v/ rather than/w/ may also be part of the adoption, though perhaps they occurred in Medieval/Liturgical Latin before it was borrowed. (It probably came through French anyway.)
But "et al." is ambiguous in all those regards, so it's not clear to me whether it' s a loaner or a Latinism.
FWIW, the insistence on treating "data" as a plural in formal writing is one of my favorite peeves. If you listen to how people actually use it, it has clearly been adopted as a non-count noun, so IMO writing "these data" is an etymological sciolism.
Clinton was complaining about shutting off the internet in Egypt, et al.
et al. isn't a smart-sounding synonym for etc.
Actually it works here, since it's just Latin for "and others". It mere convention that we tend to use it almost exclusively for group authorship in English.
The only substantial difference with etc. is that the latter denotes that you know who or what the others are.
I'll be very interested to hear how interplanetary travel, which takes a matter of days, almost invariably results in passing within a couple hundred feet of another ship headed the opposite direction at a few feet per second relative velocity....very small solar system? With a couple hundred planets?
The short answer is because an entire season of watching people stare out the window, as they spend months a million miles from anything of interest, doesn't get very good ratings.
Yeah, but think of the dramatic potential for when they go insane and start trying to murder each other.
believing that monopolies and soulless corporations can make things better. I wish Jebus would come back; his first order of business would be gutting all these scumbags like fish.
Talk about fucked-up priorities... My first order of business would be to spank all the pretty girls who've misbehaved.
Does anyone else just feel worn out by all political BS in the U.S these days?
Was there ever a Good Old Days when it was different?
Much as I like the idea of representative democracy, it comes with the unavoidable price tag of being ruled by politicians.
(An Enlightened Absolute Monarch would get the job done, but the 'Enlightened' requirement makes them hard to come by. Unenlightened Absolute Monarchs are a dime a dozen, but who wants to be governed by one?)
Adding riders to "must-pass" bills is a time-honored technique for sneaking all kinds of looniness into law.
And this nails precisely why this technique needs to be abolished. It's dishonest politicking. Each section of a bill ought to be required to be voted on.
Then they'd start inserting it into "must-pass" sections of a bill.
Or sub-sections...
Or paragraphs...
Or sentences...
If you think we've got logjam now, wait until they have to vote on every word in a bill.
[Not to imply that logjam isn't sometimes a good thing.]
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Reportedly the information Wikileaks was set to disclose about a particular bank back from December, "a massive batch of internal Bank of America emails" has been leaked.
Is this saying that Wikileaks' information was leaked by a third party?
As for bank foreclosure fraud, we've known for a year or more that banks have been doing that. A common case is that all the shady asset-juggling left things in a state that no one knows who actually has the rights to it, so the evictions are rushed through without proper legal scrutiny, or even on the basis of forged documents.
I heard Donovan's old song on the radio recently. To my surprise, it has aged quite well - especially the spoken part.
Plato goes to great lengths to try to persuade the reader that this is in fact a true story based on the what was told to a relative of his which Plato committed to memory when he was a boy.
See, if you read the _rest_ of Plato, you find that this is a very common trope for him. He distances himself from the truth of a statement by putting it at multiple layers of indirect speech.
And in this case it was "a heard it from b, who heard it from c, who heard it from..." Up to about g or so.
And this in a dramatic dialogue, which was a fictional vehicle for Plato's views. In this case, a report on the after-dinner conversation at a party Plato didn't attend (if it happened at all).
I have no doubt that the Atlantis story was made up from somewhere. Circular built cities, or
There is a hypothesis that the topology was inspired by the famous circular harbor at Carthage.
The main difference is that there are other ancient references to Troy in addition to Homer. As far as I have been able to discover, the only ancient reference we have to Atlantis is one place in Plato's writings.
Actually he mentions it in two different dialogues, though that hardly dulls your point.
The worst part of it is that Plato made up Atlantis just to set up a hypothetical argument.
People used to say that about Troy. Then someone dug it up.
I'm pretty sure no one ever said that someone made up Troy just to set up a hypothetical argument.
Troy
I'm not sure Troy counts as mythical. As recently as the early Byzantine era a traveller from western Europe visited the site and reported with astonishment that he found the eternal flame at Achilles' tomb was burning. Turned out that the local Christian Bishop was keeping it up.
Western Europe went through a Dark Age, and later it became stylish for Western scholars to dismiss everything as myth, but the information has been around continuously since the Hellenic Dark Ages.
and Ur
Not sure why you call this one mythical either.
Shangri la is believed to actually be a series of villages along the Silk Road
IOW, somebody thinks it was a myth derived from a series of villages? Hardly fits the definition of a mythical city that turned out to be real.
Even the underwater part of Alexandria was once a myth but it has been found.
Part of Alexandria sank in an earthquake. There was no mythical city.
Even Pompeii was a mythic site at one time.
Don't know why you would say that. No lesser a person than Pliny the Younger watched it from across the bay and left us an eyewitness report.
IIRC, Pliny the Elder died in the event.
Do a little research and you might be surprised.
The only thing research has taught me is how ignorant the masses are. (And how ignorant I certainly am as well, on topics that I haven't researched.)
Most "mythical" cities have turned out to be real.
Most? Can you support that claim?
It will probably never be identified but it probably existed.
If you had the most rudimentary understanding of Plato's "Dramatic Dialogues", you'd realize that there's not the slightest reason to believe it ever existed.
Plato wrote fictions, usually starring the late Socrates, to convey his philosophy. The Socrates we all know and love is probably more nearly Plato's sock puppet than the real man. And any "ancient history" worked into the stories is made up to support the philosophy.
Usually Atlantis gets discovered every six months, but I haven't heard anything for nearly two years!
(Insert usual diatribe about the purpose of Plato's fiction, and the idiocy of anyone who believes it. Sorry, but I'm tired of typing it up everytime a new discovery is announced on Slashdot.)
As someone who suffers from SAD, depression, etc. I can attest to the fact that a strict sleep schedule is incredibly important to keeping me healthy and functional. DST rudely smashes all my carefully laid schedules and plans.
I keep a very irregular schedule, and I still feel crappy while DST is in effect. Presumably it's psychological, but who knows.
Just use Sawfish. I can maximize/unmaximize horizontally and vertically either independently or together, roll up windowshade style, and of course minimize or close, each with a single click. More options in a menu, which I could move to buttons if I used them often enough.
The first thing I do when I upgrade Ubuntu is start seeing what it's going to take to make Sawfish work.
Sawfish was GNOME's original WM. They've spent years replacing good functional WMs for less functional ones. Sounds like they've just about finished the race to the bottom.
The sooner it comes out, the sooner we can have a thread where we all rag on what a disappointment it was.
C'mon, Hollywood - surprise me. I dare you!
All this general education was basically useless in getting my first job. Everyone wanted experience. Everyone wanted somebody who knew how to do this in specific, and they didn't care about all the general stuff I knew...
But they insist on a degree as well...
In my experience, there's a real "glass ceiling" between those who have degrees and those who don't. It literally doesn't matter what the degree is in; I've worked with programmers who had degrees in fine arts and the like, and they still operated above the glass, whereas perfectly competent self-taught programmers didn't.
But now that I'm actually out there working, all the general knowledge is coming in incredibly handy.
Yeah, learning things like order-of-growth makes a real difference in your thinking. In my experience, self-taught programmers tend to focus on optimization in the small - which is probably done better by any compiler off the shelf these days - and never give a thought to the algorithmic-level optimization that really matters.
Unless you're going to grad school, a publication probably won't help your CV very much. Maybe some exceptions, such as if you've done some original work in a specialized field that you hope to work in, but that's usually for grad students too.
BTW, a conference publication isn't considered a "journal" publication, and doesn't confer the same status. Conferences are where the work gets done: people present developing ideas and get feedback on them.
As someone already mentioned, the main reason to go is to meet people. If you're shy, it probably won't do any good. If you're outgoing, you can make some useful connections. But unless someone happens to have a hot job tip, those connections are something that have to be cultivated by going to the same conference year after year and talking to those same people again and again.
Unless you want to go (you don't sound like it), tell your prof you can't afford it. If s/he really wants you to go, let them find the money for it.
A degree is not a job training course.
End of.
But IT employers want it to be. The disconnect is decades old.
You're displaying the common geek rush-to-arms that a potential etymology defines acceptable meaning. English is defined, if at all, by how she is commonly used and understood.
I wholeheartedly endorse that view. (Notice my comment on convention in my original post.)
I think our difference here is on whether to interpret the phrase as a loan word, or as some actual Latin embedded in our English prose.
Loan words usually give themselves away via (oops!) dropped inflections, shifted stress, reduction of unstressed vowels, and sometimes reduction of the number of syllables, although for some reason we keep a latinesque stress pattern on Latin loan words. So "civilization" lacks the Latin inflection, has -tio- reduced to a single syllable, has the second and third "i"s reduced to an "uh" sound, as well as the "io", but keeps the primary stress on a syllable that would have worked for Latin (at least in the nominative singular), rather than moving it to the front. The pronunciation of "c" as /s/ rather than /k/ and "v" as /v/ rather than /w/ may also be part of the adoption, though perhaps they occurred in Medieval/Liturgical Latin before it was borrowed. (It probably came through French anyway.)
But "et al." is ambiguous in all those regards, so it's not clear to me whether it' s a loaner or a Latinism.
FWIW, the insistence on treating "data" as a plural in formal writing is one of my favorite peeves. If you listen to how people actually use it, it has clearly been adopted as a non-count noun, so IMO writing "these data" is an etymological sciolism.
And they call it democracy
Actually they call it "Disaster Capitalism". It has merely come home from the Third World.
People don't seem to realize that there's no intrinsic connection between democracy and capitalism.
Clinton was complaining about shutting off the internet in Egypt, et al.
et al. isn't a smart-sounding synonym for etc.
Actually it works here, since it's just Latin for "and others". It mere convention that we tend to use it almost exclusively for group authorship in English.
The only substantial difference with etc. is that the latter denotes that you know who or what the others are.
There's nothing so shameless that no one would do it if they could make a buck.
I'll be very interested to hear how interplanetary travel, which takes a matter of days, almost invariably results in passing within a couple hundred feet of another ship headed the opposite direction at a few feet per second relative velocity. ...very small solar system? With a couple hundred planets?
The short answer is because an entire season of watching people stare out the window, as they spend months a million miles from anything of interest, doesn't get very good ratings.
Yeah, but think of the dramatic potential for when they go insane and start trying to murder each other.
Unfortunately, I don't think that will happen after the movie wrapped up the story line and killed off major characters.
I'm prepared to pretend the movie never happened if it mean more episodes. Who's with me?!
I really didn't like the way the movie tried to rush a wrap-up of all the story lines. Some of them might have proven interesting.
Anyone taking bets that Phelps turns out to be gay?
believing that monopolies and soulless corporations can make things better. I wish Jebus would come back; his first order of business would be gutting all these scumbags like fish.
Talk about fucked-up priorities... My first order of business would be to spank all the pretty girls who've misbehaved.
Does anyone else just feel worn out by all political BS in the U.S these days?
Was there ever a Good Old Days when it was different?
Much as I like the idea of representative democracy, it comes with the unavoidable price tag of being ruled by politicians.
(An Enlightened Absolute Monarch would get the job done, but the 'Enlightened' requirement makes them hard to come by. Unenlightened Absolute Monarchs are a dime a dozen, but who wants to be governed by one?)
Adding riders to "must-pass" bills is a time-honored technique for sneaking all kinds of looniness into law.
And this nails precisely why this technique needs to be abolished. It's dishonest politicking. Each section of a bill ought to be required to be voted on.
Then they'd start inserting it into "must-pass" sections of a bill.
Or sub-sections...
Or paragraphs...
Or sentences...
If you think we've got logjam now, wait until they have to vote on every word in a bill.
[Not to imply that logjam isn't sometimes a good thing.]