> Ask RedHat. Or didn't you read the KDE binary package policy?
> (Just so you know, the KDE developers gave binary packagers plenty of time to get their packages together. If RedHat didn't bother to, that's RedHat's fault. 3.1 has been delayed more than enough already, but it's out now, so it's time to celebrate.)
Yes; clearly it's Red Hat's fault that they didn't include today's release of KDE in a release of Red Hat that came out all the way back in September.
> 1. A real fullscreen mode that you can switch to while you are connected > 2. Scale the content of the remote side to fit into your window > 3. browse desktop sharing servers in the network
Thanks. Sounds great.
> 4. a real GUI for everything
That one still needs a bit more elaboration.
Also... This is an application, OK? Does it really require a desktop upgrade?
> Don't know how the lameness filter got involved, but here's what I'm doing about it.
Yeah, it's amazing how often you have to add some lameness to a post just to sneak it past the lameness filter.
Kind of like your company's fiscal responsibility rules that end up making you buy expensive stuff from a closed list of vendors when cheap stuff from the open market would have done just as well, I suppose.
> Latest advances in ultrasound are increasing the accuracy of the imaging systems by using image enhancement methods borrowed from the Navy's sonar equipment
I hope they're not using the Navy's new equipment that makes whales' heads implode.
> Can you write a test-compile program that checks whether the proper public/private/proctected access modifier keywords are set up right on each method? That the method was specified for 'short foo' but the implementor used 'int foo'? Or like Mithrandir said, that no additional methods have been added (such as an overloaded version)?
Yes, and trivially easily. I code in Ada: all I have to do is try to compile the package.
I don't even have to write a test program. The spec is part of the package's source code, and the compiler kicks sand in your face if the body doesn't conform to the spec.
Are those congresscritters bored with the War on Terror already? Do we need another War on Drugs so we can spend vast amounts of money imprisoning vast numbers of citizens for petty crimes?
We have GOT to put an end to corporate control of our national legislature.
> At least in our great state north of the 49th parallel we don't really have to listen to our music with the fear of the FBI coming in and arresting us for listening to music we downloaded to evaluate.
Posting from North Korea, are you?
> Our wonderful government just takes our money from buying blank media instead.
> No, one of the reasons the "free world" "won" the cold war because North America has never hosted a modern war.
The USA won the cold war because the Superpower Lifestyle bankrupted the USSR slightly before it bankrupted the USA.
The USA spent a decade inching back from that brink, but now that we've got a cold war mentality again (even without any cold war), it looks like we're going to bankrupt ourselves on foreign adventures and faith-based missle defenses anyway.
> MPEG4IP only does MPEG-4, but since that is almost certain to be come the standard "open" video format, I'd expect it to become more and more useful throughout 2003.
We don't want an "open" format. We want whatever format the Windows users use when they post to alt.ripped.porn!
> I thought about learning Ada for a while. I did the usual net research, but discovered that data types like integer didn't have standardized sizes. So, I didn't bother learning Ada.
That's an odd reason. Did your research tell you that it will give you a default size, but you can coerce any size you want if you have special requirements?
The whole point of the numeric representation business is to allow you to specify your programs so that they will run correctly on any hardware you port them to. But if you don't need that kind of power, you just take the default.
> Funny, I don't agree that the "electronic industry's" attitude can be summed up by Apple's slogan. Apple is one of the few that dares to encourage people to Rip/Mix/Burn.
Last time I looked at hard drives in a retail shop, the box made no bones about storing music as one of the "needs" for a high-capacity drive.
And of course, even those parts of the industry that aren't saying it may still hold that attitude. Surely you don't think all those CD recorders are being bought by people who want to back up their data?
The electronics industry, like the music industry, wants to make a buck. They don't have much reason to give a fig about the music industry's wishes. You could think of them as competing industries on this topic, in the sense that what's good for one is bad for the other.
> A normal company would respond to that by trying to offer more games themselves, but MS doesn't have to play that way. They have the luxury of saying "Hey, we won't increase the number of Xbox titles--instead, we'll take some games away from PS2 and Nintendo. Sure, the customer loses, but Redmond wins!" Wow, I couldn't script a better villian!
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> Ask RedHat. Or didn't you read the KDE binary package policy?
> (Just so you know, the KDE developers gave binary packagers plenty of time to get their packages together. If RedHat didn't bother to, that's RedHat's fault. 3.1 has been delayed more than enough already, but it's out now, so it's time to celebrate.)
Yes; clearly it's Red Hat's fault that they didn't include today's release of KDE in a release of Red Hat that came out all the way back in September.
> saying that the 'volunteer effort could oblige Microsoft to work with Linux'.
And look what happened to all the companies Microsoft saw fit to "work with" in the past.
> 1. A real fullscreen mode that you can switch to while you are connected
> 2. Scale the content of the remote side to fit into your window
> 3. browse desktop sharing servers in the network
Thanks. Sounds great.
> 4. a real GUI for everything
That one still needs a bit more elaboration.
Also... This is an application, OK? Does it really require a desktop upgrade?
> Wow, your company's fuct.
> Are you hiring? haha
They may be in a day or two!
> > What does it do that vncviewer doesn't do?
> Well, it integrates into KDE, for one. It doesn't look like ass, for two.
Funny, vncviewer shows up on my screen as a decorated window, nothing more. Does KDE 3.1 make the window prettier?
> It automates things so that the user doesn't have to know anything about configuring a VNC server.
Yes, I always found it dreadfully tedious to type vncserver at the prompt.
> Don't know how the lameness filter got involved, but here's what I'm doing about it.
Yeah, it's amazing how often you have to add some lameness to a post just to sneak it past the lameness filter.
Kind of like your company's fiscal responsibility rules that end up making you buy expensive stuff from a closed list of vendors when cheap stuff from the open market would have done just as well, I suppose.
> What this does is provides a KDE-based VNC viewing program
What does it do that vncviewer doesn't do?
> as well as a very Windows-XP like application to send an invitation to someone else using KDE or VNC to allow them to connect to your desktop.
What does this do that e-mail doesn't do?
> Latest advances in ultrasound are increasing the accuracy of the imaging systems by using image enhancement methods borrowed from the Navy's sonar equipment
I hope they're not using the Navy's new equipment that makes whales' heads implode.
> Horny housewife sluts paid for my college education.
Really? All they did for me was keep me from studying.
> Can you write a test-compile program that checks whether the proper public/private/proctected access modifier keywords are set up right on each method? That the method was specified for 'short foo' but the implementor used 'int foo'? Or like Mithrandir said, that no additional methods have been added (such as an overloaded version)?
Yes, and trivially easily. I code in Ada: all I have to do is try to compile the package.
I don't even have to write a test program. The spec is part of the package's source code, and the compiler kicks sand in your face if the body doesn't conform to the spec.
> Kazaa may actually have a hope.
How's that? Did someone actually find some good music to steal?
> Recursion is intuitive but...
You've obviously never tried to explain recursion to a group of average co-workers.
Are those congresscritters bored with the War on Terror already? Do we need another War on Drugs so we can spend vast amounts of money imprisoning vast numbers of citizens for petty crimes?
We have GOT to put an end to corporate control of our national legislature.
> However, what should worry you is this, the law can be used to imprison or harm people who the gov't (or a malicious DA) wants out of the way.
That's what the drug laws are for. How hard is it for the DEA or local police to 'find' a stash behind your toaster?
> At least in our great state north of the 49th parallel we don't really have to listen to our music with the fear of the FBI coming in and arresting us for listening to music we downloaded to evaluate.
Posting from North Korea, are you?
> Our wonderful government just takes our money from buying blank media instead.
Hah, our government does both!
> No, one of the reasons the "free world" "won" the cold war because North America has never hosted a modern war.
The USA won the cold war because the Superpower Lifestyle bankrupted the USSR slightly before it bankrupted the USA.
The USA spent a decade inching back from that brink, but now that we've got a cold war mentality again (even without any cold war), it looks like we're going to bankrupt ourselves on foreign adventures and faith-based missle defenses anyway.
> MPEG4IP only does MPEG-4, but since that is almost certain to be come the standard "open" video format, I'd expect it to become more and more useful throughout 2003.
We don't want an "open" format. We want whatever format the Windows users use when they post to alt.ripped.porn!
> Hell, can I write a review and get it posted?
> Worst. Review. Ever.
Hey! You did write a review and get it posted!
> Silent, but deadly!
Only silent when done professionally!
It may be lethal, but it's as cheap as beans!
> I thought about learning Ada for a while. I did the usual net research, but discovered that data types like integer didn't have standardized sizes. So, I didn't bother learning Ada.
That's an odd reason. Did your research tell you that it will give you a default size, but you can coerce any size you want if you have special requirements?
The whole point of the numeric representation business is to allow you to specify your programs so that they will run correctly on any hardware you port them to. But if you don't need that kind of power, you just take the default.
> Why is it so hard for companies to adapt? They are obviously in it for the money, why not change your business model to accomodate new things?
Because the New World Order probably won't support the godawful profit margins the recording industry has had for the past ~30 years.
They will adapt, but only because they can't avoid it.
> Funny, I don't agree that the "electronic industry's" attitude can be summed up by Apple's slogan. Apple is one of the few that dares to encourage people to Rip/Mix/Burn.
Last time I looked at hard drives in a retail shop, the box made no bones about storing music as one of the "needs" for a high-capacity drive.
And of course, even those parts of the industry that aren't saying it may still hold that attitude. Surely you don't think all those CD recorders are being bought by people who want to back up their data?
The electronics industry, like the music industry, wants to make a buck. They don't have much reason to give a fig about the music industry's wishes. You could think of them as competing industries on this topic, in the sense that what's good for one is bad for the other.
> So does that mean that my forced ada classes in college were useful?
Did it make a better programmer out of you?
> A normal company would respond to that by trying to offer more games themselves, but MS doesn't have to play that way. They have the luxury of saying "Hey, we won't increase the number of Xbox titles--instead, we'll take some games away from PS2 and Nintendo. Sure, the customer loses, but Redmond wins!" Wow, I couldn't script a better villian!
You could add a monocle and a persian cat.