> I remember seeing another japanese samuri film, and recognizing that it was identical with an early Clint Eastwood spaghetti western. Camera angles and all, just transplanted from Japan to the Italian version of the American west.
And interestingly enough, Italy is half-way between China and the American West.
I'm sure there's some deep meaning in there somewhere, though I haven't quite pinned it down yet.
I don't know the difference (if any) between ATA/* and UDMA/*, but I notice this in the announcement:
- IDE UltraDMA/66 and UltraDMA/100 contoller support
I have an ATA/100 card, and one ATA/100 disk on the card and another on my m.b., and the 2.4.0 kernel that shipped with the first Red Hat 7.1 beta recognized them fine without any extra effort on my part.
FWIW,/sbin/hdparm -T -t shows about 170 MB/sec for reading the disk cache, and about 30 MB/sec for buffered reads off the disk itself.
(I tried to post other useful snippets from my logs and program outputs, but Robs lame lameness filter is hyperactive today, and keeps rejecting my posts.)
> My 1100 Mgz thunderbird never goes below 60 C and I have seen it go as high as 72 C.
I have the Global WIN FOP38, which IIRC is one notch above the minimal requirement, so maybe it's making a difference. I also used some extra case ventalation, so that might be bringing it down a bit as well.
Unfortunately, the FOP38 is a bit on the noisy side.
> Where can i find out about lm_sensors in the 2.4.3 kernel?
You sound like 'Eliza'.
Visit the lm_sensors page. Notice that i2c support is built in to the 2.4.* kernels, so you won't need the separate download for that, but you do need to have the basic i2c support compiled in to the new kernels. (It may already be compiled in if you have a stock kernel.)
Once you've gotten i2c support, just get the lm_sensors package and follow the instructions in the QUICKSTART file. When you're done, you'll have a hardware monitoring infrastructure, if your motherboard provides the info.
Various user tools tap in to that infrastructure to give you a live display or plot the data. I've already mentioned gkrellm; you can find more at the lm_sensors site's links page, or perhaps on google.
> I think you should ammend your "many people have burnt or cracked their chips" with "people who do not follow AMD's cooling recommendations or improperly try to force a non-socket A cooler on to their chips".
Do you know where I can find AMD's temperature recommendations? I just built my first system with sensors on the motherboard, and I got the lm_sensors stuff working with the 2.4.3 kernel Saturday, so now I can watch the temperature on my desktop with gkrellm. But I don't know what I'm looking at. It usually hovers around 50C, but sometimes climbs as high as 57C when I've run an all-night number crunching job.
> A PhD adds virtually nothing to the average starting salary, however.
...and delays the time of start by 3-7 years, too.
> Only go for a PhD if you feel you can make a meaningful contribution to the field.
SE might be an exception, but in most fields the PhD is a research degree. Unless DagnyJ's "pursuing a career in this industry" means getting a research position, his/her potential employers won't see much value-addedness in a PhD.
OTOH, getting a PhD might lead to a job that's more fun than some of the grunge-grind jobs that lots of people in IT are stuck with.
> There's a blind guy who lives down the hall from me who, in the same time I got one degree in classics, got two in computer science and mathematics, not to mention a Rhodes scholarship.
I met a guy who is totally blind, has a Ph.D. in philosophy, and has just started working on a B.S. in CS (wants a job, I suppose).
For his first semester CS class he even did the graphics programs; I know this because I had the really interesting experience of helping him understand what one of those graphics assignments was asking for.
> I, for one am OFFENDED that we are wasting money on fruitless projects like flying fast. It would be better spend on expanding the west wing of my 8 bendroom mansion, or paying some immigrant to scrape barnacles off my yacht.
That's where the other half of your tax money goes.
> perhaps it's a corporate cross-promotion thing, now kuro5hin and/. are stable mates
I keep a K5/box (rarely go there though), and I've noticed that there sure has been a lot of duplication of topics between the two sites over the past few weeks.
> and that P&F's *measurement* of excess heat was seriously flawed.
Let's just say, if it produced any less heat, you could put in your computer to cool your CPU.
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I think the first and foremost reason those guys got dogpiled on day one was that they were practicing the increasingly popular methodology of science by press release:
Bah! Peer review is for people who doubt their own work! Let's cut out the middle men and publish it in the New York Times.
When "scientists" take this approach, skepsis is the best approach to their work until it is independently confirmed.
> Okay, maybe, but I don't think the GNU kernel is even "ready" now!
From what I read at fsf.org a couple of months back, it sounds like they are now adopting Linux for that role. As best I can recall the claim went something like -
All we needed was a kernel. Linux provides that kernel.
> If Linux/BSD/MacOSX/Whatever is a better OS than Microsofts, then let them compete in the marketplace, not in the courts.
That's exactly the problem with monopolies: the market doesn't work correctly in the presence of a monopoly, and alternative solutions can't win on their merits.
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> I remember seeing another japanese samuri film, and recognizing that it was identical with an early Clint Eastwood spaghetti western. Camera angles and all, just transplanted from Japan to the Italian version of the American west.
And interestingly enough, Italy is half-way between China and the American West.
I'm sure there's some deep meaning in there somewhere, though I haven't quite pinned it down yet.
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FWIW,
(I tried to post other useful snippets from my logs and program outputs, but Robs lame lameness filter is hyperactive today, and keeps rejecting my posts.)
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> What kind of CPU do you have ( speedwise) ?
I just built a 1.2GHz system.
> My 1100 Mgz thunderbird never goes below 60 C and I have seen it go as high as 72 C.
I have the Global WIN FOP38, which IIRC is one notch above the minimal requirement, so maybe it's making a difference. I also used some extra case ventalation, so that might be bringing it down a bit as well.
Unfortunately, the FOP38 is a bit on the noisy side.
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> Where can i find out about lm_sensors in the 2.4.3 kernel?
You sound like 'Eliza'.
Visit the lm_sensors page. Notice that i2c support is built in to the 2.4.* kernels, so you won't need the separate download for that, but you do need to have the basic i2c support compiled in to the new kernels. (It may already be compiled in if you have a stock kernel.)
Once you've gotten i2c support, just get the lm_sensors package and follow the instructions in the QUICKSTART file. When you're done, you'll have a hardware monitoring infrastructure, if your motherboard provides the info.
Various user tools tap in to that infrastructure to give you a live display or plot the data. I've already mentioned gkrellm; you can find more at the lm_sensors site's links page, or perhaps on google.
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> Allah likes his children to only use the works of circumcised men who follow the will of allah. ... So we in syria have started new unix variant.
Trimmed a bit too close with that circumcision knife, eh?
Oh, 'Unix'.
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> I think you should ammend your "many people have burnt or cracked their chips" with "people who do not follow AMD's cooling recommendations or improperly try to force a non-socket A cooler on to their chips".
Do you know where I can find AMD's temperature recommendations? I just built my first system with sensors on the motherboard, and I got the lm_sensors stuff working with the 2.4.3 kernel Saturday, so now I can watch the temperature on my desktop with gkrellm. But I don't know what I'm looking at. It usually hovers around 50C, but sometimes climbs as high as 57C when I've run an all-night number crunching job.
At what point do I start worrying?
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/. is mangling my posts this morning, so I'll keep this simple on this third try...
Go to Linux Today, and read the announcement about Alan Cox's 2.4.3-ac7, which just came out today.
Maybe it will help you; maybe it won't.
Maybe Slashdot will accept this post; maybe it won't.
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> A PhD adds virtually nothing to the average starting salary, however.
...and delays the time of start by 3-7 years, too.
> Only go for a PhD if you feel you can make a meaningful contribution to the field.
SE might be an exception, but in most fields the PhD is a research degree. Unless DagnyJ's "pursuing a career in this industry" means getting a research position, his/her potential employers won't see much value-addedness in a PhD.
OTOH, getting a PhD might lead to a job that's more fun than some of the grunge-grind jobs that lots of people in IT are stuck with.
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> Also, if we are letting Link sneak around, lets have a big 1-shot kill sniper rifle
Sorry, but that has been found to infringe on Amazon's 1-click patent technology.
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> There's a blind guy who lives down the hall from me who, in the same time I got one degree in classics, got two in computer science and mathematics, not to mention a Rhodes scholarship.
I met a guy who is totally blind, has a Ph.D. in philosophy, and has just started working on a B.S. in CS (wants a job, I suppose).
For his first semester CS class he even did the graphics programs; I know this because I had the really interesting experience of helping him understand what one of those graphics assignments was asking for.
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> I, for one am OFFENDED that we are wasting money on fruitless projects like flying fast. It would be better spend on expanding the west wing of my 8 bendroom mansion, or paying some immigrant to scrape barnacles off my yacht.
That's where the other half of your tax money goes.
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> You don't see Bill Gates house built like a circut board with PCI boards for walls.
No, just broken windows everywhere he turns.
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> When have you seen a McDonald's training video?
LMAO.
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> Here is the version with names put to faces.
They forgot to give the surname for some guy named Linus.
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> Damn dude, where are the chicks?
Chicks??? Where are the beards! I thought these were supposed to be real hackers.
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> What is a 'meta-physicist'?
Someone who studies the physics of physicists?
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> I BELIEVED that nobody could write more boring article than Jon Katz.
Mebe he posts to K5 under a different name?
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> perhaps it's a corporate cross-promotion thing, now kuro5hin and /. are stable mates
I keep a K5/box (rarely go there though), and I've noticed that there sure has been a lot of duplication of topics between the two sites over the past few weeks.
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And you thought the originals had an obnoxious sound. This will sound like a gang of farting bikers, because the sound really will be farts.
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> and that P&F's *measurement* of excess heat was seriously flawed.
Let's just say, if it produced any less heat, you could put in your computer to cool your CPU.
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From what I read at fsf.org a couple of months back, it sounds like they are now adopting Linux for that role. As best I can recall the claim went something like -
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> If Linux/BSD/MacOSX/Whatever is a better OS than Microsofts, then let them compete in the marketplace, not in the courts.
That's exactly the problem with monopolies: the market doesn't work correctly in the presence of a monopoly, and alternative solutions can't win on their merits.
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> and I smoke, so I'm not some bleeding heart liberal here
I suspect you're developing some kind of heart problems, regardless of your political views.
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