i would not *ever* use FUD in and official letter to *anyone*. it's very unprofessional to use acronyms/abbreviations. imagine the receiver of a letter, when he/she has to search the internet (if he/she goes through this trouble in the 1st place) to understand your writing, you lose, and they are more likely to trash it immediately.
if you send any letters, use proper language, and not formulations like "As well as SCO's FUD campain..." use references, link important documents stating the situation, and you are more likely to sort some effect.
yep it would be good if governments would subsidise development of free software
the german kroupware project springs to mind
as for companies: services based businees models, and not selling it-can-do-anything-and-a-lot-no-one-will-ever-need -software
this free software idea can bring back all these nice little nifty customised applications, and even better: they won't get lost on some old server in some company. that is, if they are useful for a larger group of end clients.
i'm considering a new.sig: no clue whether this comment is helpful in any way;)
the thing is, it won't be restricted to your private areas...
clothes, items you lend from the library (books, cds etc), the list continues. weherever you walk, drive, sit... maybe i should take my tinfoil hat off?
and actually, i'd be quite annoyed if the FB of I would know what kind of crackers are in my pantry!
but seriously, how are we ever going to avoid big-brother scenarios from happening? it seems that implementation of the many ways to track people/materials and their movement is becoming one of these things that are happening anyway, no matter how much we oppose the idea.
but how to stop it?
i have no clue... anyone?
PS. i could write a *huge* rant here about your gorgeous president gWb, but that wouldn't add anything to the discussion...
now that is the most sane, non-copied, original comment i saw in this 'discussion', and i second it wholeheartedly!
most of the discussions concerning GPL vs BSD-style vs whatever "Open Source" license were circle-jerk sessions (excusez le mot) of software developers and affiliated creatures (IM-not-so-HO of course), but this time there is a potential Real Life challenge.
and in such a challenge, the basic principles of the 'hacker ethic' are probably best defended from the most extreme standpoint: that of the idealistic 'GNU hippie'. let's await the great battle between heart and ratio! perhaps the underdog will win after all...
oh wait: was that RMS or this McBride guy;)
but seriously, we should all hold our breath if this ever really goes to court. or when any other future real-life legal challenge to the GPL is made...
as long as the changes involved in making this commercial package are made freely available in source.
if not, and it would only be used by the buyer, he would at least have to sign some kind of agreement not to redistribute it. how else can we avoid future violations? (e.g. modified code by buyer, and redistributed as a binary)
i'm very curious which software of yours is threatened by GPL violation... but i suppose that's not publicly available information. abiword???
[OT] by-the-way: there's an ambiguity in your CV (resume)
[qoute] LibOLE2: A C library for reading and writing OLE2 streams, used by MSWord, Excel, Powerpoint, Visio, Corel, and others [/quote]
OLE streams are being used by..., but the sentence suggests that LibOLE2 is being used by... Easiest (and ugliest) way around this is to split the sentence after 'streams'.
well, what struck me as funny few days ago is that, in the netherlands (where i live), it appears that immigrant kids on average get higher grades in school than the 'dutch'. so the interpretation of race, correlated to grades can also look positively.
your comment almost automatically assumes a negative outcome when race is taken into account. when we would take social background into account, the polarisation of results would be even more extreme. racism/discrimination also applies to properties different from color of skin.
do we want teachers to be biased (based on their statistical models) when they look at kids from a poor social background? i don't know...
i guess, when the system is being applied to a huge highschool, it can be a useful to help teachers to recognise in time that kids aren't doing well. in smaller scale education, i really think the teacher himself should watch out for each individual student.
as for future availability of this type of data: if you're going to work for an employer who is interested in your scores at highschool, you'll have to give them anyway. grades are grades. if you don't follow courses and still get high grades, even better. they'll recognise you are talented and smart. if you future employer doesn't look further than the statistical predictions based on your highschool behaviour, do you really want to work there?
me, i skipped many classes, had average grades, but once i saw the inside of a lab, my grades skyrocketed, and now i finished my PhD. so grades and class-attendance are no guarantee you'l get a good employee later on. most employers now this.
you mean like freenet? but then small and localised? why not just go with freenet, and enjoy encrypted i-don't-know-WTF-my-node-contains-so-i'm-not-liabl e euphoria:)
seriously, audiophiles are indeed full of s&*t. sorry to say, but when they have to listen and compare stuff, they are very inconsistent.
mostly audiophile gear is a jerk-off session of wannabee music expert wealthy bast^H^H^H^H guys who can afford to spend large anounts of money on equipment
what also strikes me as interesting is that most musicians i know don't give a shit about their hifi set. as long as they can get the general idea of what a song sounds like and what the different instruments do. or something.
anyway, i'm getting way-off-topic here, so i better stop
i agree, and i don't agree. as stated. does it really matter?
i am aware that you point-of-view supports the idea that ethics are not involved when a kid is young. but what is young? and about ethics anyway: i am sure that you will think twice about how, and to which extent you will track your kid. if those thoughts are not ethical in nature, i don't know what is...
i do disagree with you, not violently, but nonetheless i do. i will not track my children. but it's a personal choice i guess.
i just get very tired of parents trying to control their childerns' every move. you just can't. and you probably don't want to, since you'll be worried sick all the time.
let's agree to disagree:) i bet both of our children are likely to have a long and prosperous life (at least i hope so)
what are you using my son? paranoia inducing pills of some kind? anyway, i doubt whether an interview in linux journal would hol up in court as evidence. if i'm wrong, someone (preferrably someone with knowledge of the law) please correct me
[quote] We should have seen this coming almost a year ago! Note the double negative. "nor will not" Damn, he was telling us his intentions all along:) [/quote]
[quote] One thing that occurs to me is that with location tags I could give my kids more freedom than they currently have, etc etc [/quote] more freedom? define freedom for me please. you are actually substituting 'degrees of freedom to move around in the neighbourhood' with 'freedom'. really two completely different things.
anyways, i see the argument going back and forth here, and nobody is listening. the arguments about this RFID Woznet thinghy are better built when viewing the subject with a little more detachment.
now you people are just discussing where you think the balance lies between controlling kids and letting them explore themselves. depending on the age of the kid, and it's maturity (not necc. coupled to age:) ), i can agree with the both of you. whether it's ethical to use a tracking system on a person... it's more difficult than the topic you discuss.
about your.sig by-the-way [quote] A young idea is a beautiful and a fragile thing. Attack people, not ideas. [/quote] that's the most ridiculous idea i ever read in my life!;) but seriously, attacking people is a big nono in communication!
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i would not *ever* use FUD in and official letter to *anyone*. it's very unprofessional to use acronyms/abbreviations. imagine the receiver of a letter, when he/she has to search the internet (if he/she goes through this trouble in the 1st place) to understand your writing, you lose, and they are more likely to trash it immediately.
if you send any letters, use proper language, and not formulations like "As well as SCO's FUD campain..." use references, link important documents stating the situation, and you are more likely to sort some effect.
hehe, i'm a slackware fan :P
/.-isms)
and anyway, i'm old enough to be debian's graddad, you insensitive...
(not allowing myself to use too many
nonsense!
beer vs. freedom has nothing to do with making money.
end clients -> compromise between 'end users' and 'clients'?
i definetly need some sleep
yep it would be good if governments would subsidise development of free software
d -software
.sig: no clue whether this comment is helpful in any way ;)
the german kroupware project springs to mind
as for companies: services based businees models, and not selling it-can-do-anything-and-a-lot-no-one-will-ever-nee
this free software idea can bring back all these nice little nifty customised applications, and even better: they won't get lost on some old server in some company. that is, if they are useful for a larger group of end clients.
i'm considering a new
hehe
you have just made my friends list
*even bigger grin*
i actually mean: does it matter who big brother is: the government or some (bunch of) big corporation(s)?
/. readers thinks my question is highly uninsteresting...
the fact remains you're being watched without wanting this to happen
but, as i can already judge from the moderations, even the majority of
*grin*
can you hand me out a few more cliches?
the thing is, it won't be restricted to your private areas...
;)
clothes, items you lend from the library (books, cds etc), the list continues. weherever you walk, drive, sit... maybe i should take my tinfoil hat off?
and actually, i'd be quite annoyed if the FB of I would know what kind of crackers are in my pantry!
wtf are they doing in the netherlands anyway
insert obligatory RFID comment here...
but seriously, how are we ever going to avoid big-brother scenarios from happening? it seems that implementation of the many ways to track people/materials and their movement is becoming one of these things that are happening anyway, no matter how much we oppose the idea.
but how to stop it?
i have no clue... anyone?
PS. i could write a *huge* rant here about your gorgeous president gWb, but that wouldn't add anything to the discussion...
we are not disagreeing, i just worded my arguments wrongly... semantics & bad reading from my side... sorry about that
;)
by-the-way, you should be writing these kind of rants to the SCO group, not me
have a nice day
now that is the most sane, non-copied, original comment i saw in this 'discussion', and i second it wholeheartedly!
;)
most of the discussions concerning GPL vs BSD-style vs whatever "Open Source" license were circle-jerk sessions (excusez le mot) of software developers and affiliated creatures (IM-not-so-HO of course), but this time there is a potential Real Life challenge.
and in such a challenge, the basic principles of the 'hacker ethic' are probably best defended from the most extreme standpoint: that of the idealistic 'GNU hippie'. let's await the great battle between heart and ratio! perhaps the underdog will win after all...
oh wait: was that RMS or this McBride guy
but seriously, we should all hold our breath if this ever really goes to court. or when any other future real-life legal challenge to the GPL is made...
where they get test subjects that used neither XP nor linux/KDE...
;)
mac users? i can't believe that! they'd never be pleased with the appearance of XP
as long as the changes involved in making this commercial package are made freely available in source.
if not, and it would only be used by the buyer, he would at least have to sign some kind of agreement not to redistribute it. how else can we avoid future violations? (e.g. modified code by buyer, and redistributed as a binary)
yeah like hans reiser proudly states on your console after you run mkreaiserfs
you have to have a *damn* good product to sell it in this way, though
hey dominic,
i'm very curious which software of yours is threatened by GPL violation... but i suppose that's not publicly available information. abiword???
[OT]
by-the-way: there's an ambiguity in your CV (resume)
[qoute]
LibOLE2: A C library for reading and writing OLE2 streams, used by MSWord, Excel, Powerpoint, Visio, Corel, and others
[/quote]
OLE streams are being used by..., but the sentence suggests that LibOLE2 is being used by... Easiest (and ugliest) way around this is to split the sentence after 'streams'.
well, what struck me as funny few days ago is that, in the netherlands (where i live), it appears that immigrant kids on average get higher grades in school than the 'dutch'. so the interpretation of race, correlated to grades can also look positively.
your comment almost automatically assumes a negative outcome when race is taken into account. when we would take social background into account, the polarisation of results would be even more extreme. racism/discrimination also applies to properties different from color of skin.
do we want teachers to be biased (based on their statistical models) when they look at kids from a poor social background? i don't know...
i guess, when the system is being applied to a huge highschool, it can be a useful to help teachers to recognise in time that kids aren't doing well. in smaller scale education, i really think the teacher himself should watch out for each individual student.
as for future availability of this type of data: if you're going to work for an employer who is interested in your scores at highschool, you'll have to give them anyway. grades are grades. if you don't follow courses and still get high grades, even better. they'll recognise you are talented and smart. if you future employer doesn't look further than the statistical predictions based on your highschool behaviour, do you really want to work there?
me, i skipped many classes, had average grades, but once i saw the inside of a lab, my grades skyrocketed, and now i finished my PhD. so grades and class-attendance are no guarantee you'l get a good employee later on. most employers now this.
sorry, OT but
:)
this was actually the first time i was really laughing out loud while reading a slashdot comment!
eunuchs rule(s)
but my experience with PhD's tells me that intelligence and possesing a PhD does not neccesarily correlate.
;)
with me it does of course
you mean like freenet? but then small and localised? why not just go with freenet, and enjoy encrypted i-don't-know-WTF-my-node-contains-so-i'm-not-liabl e euphoria :)
just a thought...
ROTFL
:)
also mostly funny guys, those musicians
:) now that's amusing.
seriously, audiophiles are indeed full of s&*t. sorry to say, but when they have to listen and compare stuff, they are very inconsistent.
mostly audiophile gear is a jerk-off session of wannabee music expert wealthy bast^H^H^H^H guys who can afford to spend large anounts of money on equipment
what also strikes me as interesting is that most musicians i know don't give a shit about their hifi set. as long as they can get the general idea of what a song sounds like and what the different instruments do. or something.
anyway, i'm getting way-off-topic here, so i better stop
i agree, and i don't agree. as stated. does it really matter?
:) i bet both of our children are likely to have a long and prosperous life (at least i hope so)
i am aware that you point-of-view supports the idea that ethics are not involved when a kid is young. but what is young? and about ethics anyway: i am sure that you will think twice about how, and to which extent you will track your kid. if those thoughts are not ethical in nature, i don't know what is...
i do disagree with you, not violently, but nonetheless i do. i will not track my children. but it's a personal choice i guess.
i just get very tired of parents trying to control their childerns' every move. you just can't. and you probably don't want to, since you'll be worried sick all the time.
let's agree to disagree
best wishes
what are you using my son? paranoia inducing pills of some kind? anyway, i doubt whether an interview in linux journal would hol up in court as evidence. if i'm wrong, someone (preferrably someone with knowledge of the law) please correct me
:)
[quote]
We should have seen this coming almost a year ago! Note the double negative. "nor will not" Damn, he was telling us his intentions all along
[/quote]
[quote]
:) ), i can agree with the both of you. whether it's ethical to use a tracking system on a person... it's more difficult than the topic you discuss.
.sig by-the-way ;) but seriously, attacking people is a big nono in communication!
One thing that occurs to me is that with location tags I could give my kids more freedom than they currently have, etc etc
[/quote]
more freedom? define freedom for me please. you are actually substituting 'degrees of freedom to move around in the neighbourhood' with 'freedom'. really two completely different things.
anyways, i see the argument going back and forth here, and nobody is listening. the arguments about this RFID Woznet thinghy are better built when viewing the subject with a little more detachment.
now you people are just discussing where you think the balance lies between controlling kids and letting them explore themselves. depending on the age of the kid, and it's maturity (not necc. coupled to age
about your
[quote]
A young idea is a beautiful and a fragile thing. Attack people, not ideas.
[/quote]
that's the most ridiculous idea i ever read in my life!
just my opinion of course