like the mouse is retarded! Not Courageous? So... If you are stupid and don't learn you are brave? NO. How the heck do they dieerentiate between brave and retarded.
LVM existed 4 years ago. I used it. Remember the IBM/SUSE relationship in 2001??? Well IBM ported LVM to Linux and it was included in SUSE since version 6.3! That's over 4 years ago. Technically SUSE was more advanced than RedHat. The only thing Redhat was good generating money from the blood and sweat of open source developers. SUSE innovated.
The Logical Volume Manager (LVM) - Part 1
Michael Hasenstein
This document describes the LVM in SUSE LINUX. It is freely distributable as long as it remains unchanged. The original version of this document (PDF) can be obtained at http://www.suse.com/oracle/.
The Logical Volume Manager (LVM) - Part 1
Michael Hasenstein
This document describes the LVM in SUSE LINUX. It is freely distributable as long as it remains unchanged. The original version of this document (PDF) can be obtained at http://www.suse.com/oracle/.
SUSE has included a Logical Volume Manager since SUSE LINUX 6.3. The LVM in SUSE LINUX is Heinz Mauelshagen's implementation, the homepage is now available at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/.
SUSE Inc. 2001 Michael Hasenstein
Like I said, I've been active in the Linux Community since 1992.
Not only that. MacOS/X does not have a true Xserver. The power of X11 allows you to run from the server/desktop and display anywhere. You can't do that with macOS/X.
And.. have you ever managed macOS/X hacked version of LDAP? Try implementing that for 600 users. OpenLDAP is better and easier to manage on an enterprise scale.
I a unix/linux systems engineer. I can tell you Redhat Linux AS 2.1 was anything but advanced. Sure EMC and Oracle supported it. But there was NO LVM! No Support for Extended ACLS! And the infamous low EMEM bug when you are under heavy I/O. If I compiled a fix in Oracle wasn't going to support it. The servers are Dell PowerEdge 6650's with 8GB RAM connected to an EMC SAN via Qlogic HBAs. I managed to tame the beast, but managing the filesystems without an LVM is a pain.
The ERP project has grown, so when the lease is up on the Dell equipment it looks like we are going with the IBM pSeries. Why... basically we need the I/O.
I've achieved 97% uptime but the credit is mine, not Redhat's. Redhat staff is brain dead when it comes to cutting edge solutions. I solved my problems before Redhat was ever on the trail.
I haven't been able to upgrade to Redhat AS 4.0 since according to the usenet groups Oracle RAC and 10g perform poorly with SAN attached storage, 50% of the throughput I have on the heavily patched Redhat AS 2.1
Bottom line, if you are going to roll out Linux throughtout your Enterprise you need engineers like me on your staff, not Redhat. I believe the public will catch on and the Redhat stock will take a nosedive. Unless they hire engineers with experience in the Enterprise.
They need to take a good solid look. What I am personally looking at is licensing from Oracle. I believe the whole Redhat / Oracle Grid deal is to sell as many oracle licenses as you can. Need more horsepower? Add a database node? An Additional database node means more money for Ellison, and less money in your IT budget. So we are now looking at running the backend on a IBM p570 or a p590 and host many databases there. The business decided that Disaster Recovery is more important than HA! Why... 9iRAC takes 4 minutes to failover. Also.. sometimes failovers fail. Some of the bugs may have been worked out in 10g.
Anyway have your read the latest news at Oracle? Sun is now the preferred Oracle platform of the month again.
That's not goinf to help redhat's stock.
Believe it or not I've been a Linux fan since 1992. Yggrasill was the release I cut my teeth on. I've been using it ever since. I was very dissapointed to see what redhat did. This is not only going to hurt Redhat. But then again, Linux was never written with the intent to make money. It has however helped many Computer scientists and professionals improve on thier careers. It helped me stay on top of my game and earn a decent salary.
This SAP guy has no clue what computing was like in the 70s. Gates should think back as well. Open Source basically is like the old SIGS... except with the age of the internet it's much more structured. I wish Open Source existed when I was in College. I did subscribe to a a bunch of SIGDs when I was 16, and learned how to program through them. Now... Open Source reminds me of those days, and I have been using open source and contributing from time to time since 1992. I predicted in 1992, that in 20 years, Open Source would be mainstream and be prefered. Granted, curently we have to mature our Enterprise level support. Redhat destroyed Linux's reputation in the Enterprise by releasing Redhat AS 2.1, what a terrible distribution, no LVM support... gee. It's been hard enough convincing my employer to use Whitebox where we can. Also a large killer buisness intelligence application needed extremely fast I/O, faster than what our EMC SAN can turn out, so I ended up benchmarking on a P570 with the new storage array that IBM sells that replces the D80 stuff. It's not the OS that got me speed, it's the storage array, that damn thing is fast. The software, written by Demantra, isn't the fastest in the world. I believe if they partition the databases and index them we will get more speed. It must go through 15 million records. Well the Dell/EMC solution took 3 hours to run a job, the P570 took one hour.
Anyway, the new blade computing technology is now out, got to love infiniband. And Linux running on the new technology is great, gotta love OpenMosix. Even more.. Mysql on OpenMosix. This could eveolve into an Oracle killer. Larry Ellison needs to eat some humble pie anyway. They charge far too much for licenses, and anyone who runs Oracle knows... clone, patch, patch, patch, test, clone, patch, patch, patch. It's as if Oracle is designed this way on purpose. The ERP rollout at my company has been a killer. Over budget, does Larry know this crap can kill a company? Even a company that's been around for over a hundred years. My company let go IBM due to this. I don't believe Oracle India is the answer as well. Why.... well even though outsourcing saves you 66% or so, they don't get it right the first time, or second, or even the third sometimes. So... where's the savings? My company's IT department was too small to take on this ambitious project on it's own, so they hire consultants. Possibly if we put together our own staff, we could have saved money. I don't want to mention how much overbudget we are. But it's huge, scary even.
If the company was open more to Open Source, and I was hired while they were debating over SAP, Oracle, DB2... I would have turned them on to other solutions.
Open Source isn't socialism. There is a lot of money to be made in supporting and Deploying Open Source. Some people (Larry Ellison and CO.) tend to make money on the shirttails of Open Source, but if they were true Open Source then Oracle and the Application server code would be release as Open Source and who knows, maybe a product would evolve that won't need 3 family packs, a K10202 service pack.. etc.
Anyway sorry about all the text.. I just ended up venting a bit.
Linux is truly open. If you want to make changes, there's the source, there for your to do what you want. If you wish it to be included, get with the program, post the patch to the kernel developers. If the code is worthy it will get into the kernel, if it needs work you will here about it from your piers.
Keep your old VCR in good shape. Also you can use hackable PVR cards. I've got a PVR-250 and use Linux with it. I primarily bought it to encode my old family videos that are on VHS and Hi-8 video tape. I'm using Linux to create the mpeg2 streams and the DVDs.
A powerPC processor has it's advantages. It's a RISC processor, and the architecture is very effecient. I think I'm going to buy a G5 or a MacMini soon. I own a G3 yosemite running LinuxPPC, it's my firewall,IMAP,WWW,PHP server.
Redhat 5.0? I cut my teeth on Yggrassil. An add in Nuts & Volts magazine featured the Yggdrasil release way back. I believe it was 1992. I've been running Linux ever since!
At what cost? And what's going to be tagged? Pallets? Individual packages? If you are going to tag the actuall packages themselves you are talking $0.35 each. That cost would more than likely get passed off to the consumer. OUCH!
Don't use real IP addresses after the gateway. I do IP MASQUERADING. I get only 1 ip address from my provider. I've got a wireless webcam, a zaurus wireless pda, company assigned laptop, my linux development desktop computer, my Apple G3 running LinuxPPC (my gateway, web, imap server), My oldest son't room with a Linux based AMD 64bit server, a mini mac, a sharp zaurus, my 2 youngest boys room and thier computer and a laptop up in thier room, my hombrew robot, a hacked compaq IA-1 that runs linux that I use to monitor my firewall, email, etc.. All these devices get to the outside world on 1 ip address. I have multiple servers that are accessed by the outside world via port redirection as well.
My point is that we should be tighter with ip address allocation.
An LSB distribution isn't optimized for your target processor. I tried Suse and Fedora in a VM. (compared to a Gentoo Image in a VM)I didn't like it. I'm hooked on Gentoo! Imagine, a distribution that's optimized for your target platform! It works! I've got Gentoo running on my ShuttlePC, Apple G3 (my firewall/IMAP/SMTP/WWW) server, my oldest son's AMD64 desktop. All of these installations are optimized for the hardware they are running on with Gentoo.
Now, in a DataCenter configuration you could create an optimized base image and setup a jumpstart style installation server. This base image should only contain the bare essentials to get your servers up and running, the applications unique to your hosts could be installed with emerge later on.
I'd go with a unix based operating system, build a HA active/active cluster that consists of at lease 3 nodes each. If you are an Intel shop I'd go with 6 Dell 6650 poweredge servers. Some form of SAN, or NAS storage. 1M users must mean a budget so I would go with an EMC CX600. I'd use Linux HA. Configure the first three servers as your mail hub, configure your accounts, imap, ldap, pop, webclient, etc. on your next three servers. Sendmail gets bashed but I'd tell you what... It is stable and when configured properly it is secure. LDAP can be populated via your Active Directory.. or why not rewrite and centralize your authentication on a modified Open LDAP server!
If you don't have to time to roll your own system, check out scalix. Roger Williams University (my son attends there) uses Scalix. www.scalix.com
Write code? Gee I don't want to have to go out and Buy Monta Vista when I have a prefectly good distribuation to work with. How do you boot and install your own OS? JTAG? Is there going to be shell root access so we can make our own modifications?
Any digital engineer will tell you that the PowerPC processor 's architecture is far superior to that of Intel's Pentium series. The public overall is ignorant to the fact so they just look for high clock speeds. It's too bad, I think this move is going to lead to the death of Apple's computer line. Who knows, Jobs may have to sell the IPOD to some other company.
I would rather see a MAC powered by 8 IBM Cell processors.
This is not exciting really. The PowerPC processor is superior. If this is the direction Apple is heading, only the Ipod will have market share. I will not buy a Intel based Mac.
I hope this is all just hype. I have several computers at home. I've got my Linux development box running an AMD Barton w/gentoo, I've got an Apple G3 w/gentoo (it's my firewall, webserver, mail, imap, and Linux PPC dev box). I really like the PPC architecture.
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I ordered my 770, it's November 18th, the 770 still has not been released. Bummer.
like the mouse is retarded! Not Courageous? So... If you are stupid and don't learn you are brave? NO. How the heck do they dieerentiate between brave and retarded.
I'd say they made the mouse retarded, not brave!
last time I check 2GB is not a problem for bittorent!
LVM existed 4 years ago. I used it. Remember the IBM/SUSE relationship in 2001??? Well IBM ported
LVM to Linux and it was included in SUSE since version 6.3! That's over 4 years ago. Technically
SUSE was more advanced than RedHat. The only thing Redhat was good generating money from the blood and sweat of open source developers. SUSE innovated.
The Logical Volume Manager (LVM) - Part 1
Michael Hasenstein
This document describes the LVM in SUSE LINUX. It is freely distributable as long as it remains unchanged. The original version of this document (PDF) can be obtained at http://www.suse.com/oracle/.
The Logical Volume Manager (LVM) - Part 1
Michael Hasenstein
This document describes the LVM in SUSE LINUX. It is freely distributable as long as it remains unchanged. The original version of this document (PDF) can be obtained at http://www.suse.com/oracle/.
SUSE has included a Logical Volume Manager since SUSE LINUX 6.3. The LVM in SUSE LINUX is Heinz Mauelshagen's implementation, the homepage is now available at http://www.sistina.com/lvm/.
SUSE Inc. 2001
Michael Hasenstein
Like I said, I've been active in the Linux Community since 1992.
Not only that. MacOS/X does not have a true Xserver.
The power of X11 allows you to run from the server/desktop
and display anywhere. You can't do that with macOS/X.
And.. have you ever managed macOS/X hacked version of LDAP?
Try implementing that for 600 users. OpenLDAP is better and easier to manage on an enterprise scale.
I a unix/linux systems engineer. I can tell you Redhat Linux AS 2.1 was anything but advanced. Sure EMC and Oracle supported it. But there was NO LVM! No Support for Extended ACLS! And the infamous low EMEM bug when you are under heavy I/O. If I compiled a fix in Oracle wasn't going to support it. The servers are Dell PowerEdge 6650's with 8GB RAM connected to an EMC SAN via Qlogic HBAs. I managed to tame the beast, but managing the filesystems without an LVM is a pain.
The ERP project has grown, so when the lease is up on the Dell equipment it looks like we are going with the IBM pSeries. Why... basically we need the I/O.
I've achieved 97% uptime but the credit is mine, not Redhat's. Redhat staff is brain dead when it comes to cutting edge solutions. I solved my problems before Redhat was ever on the trail.
I haven't been able to upgrade to Redhat AS 4.0 since according to the usenet groups Oracle RAC and 10g perform poorly with SAN attached storage, 50% of the throughput I have on the heavily patched Redhat AS 2.1
Bottom line, if you are going to roll out Linux throughtout your Enterprise you need engineers like me on your staff, not Redhat. I believe the public will catch on and the Redhat stock will take a nosedive. Unless they hire engineers with experience in the Enterprise.
They need to take a good solid look. What I am personally looking at is licensing from Oracle. I believe the whole Redhat / Oracle Grid deal is to sell as many oracle licenses as you can. Need more horsepower? Add a database node?
An Additional database node means more money for Ellison, and less money in your IT budget. So we are now looking at
running the backend on a IBM p570 or a p590 and host many
databases there. The business decided that Disaster Recovery is more important than HA! Why... 9iRAC takes 4 minutes to failover. Also.. sometimes failovers fail.
Some of the bugs may have been worked out in 10g.
Anyway have your read the latest news at Oracle? Sun is now the preferred Oracle platform of the month again.
That's not goinf to help redhat's stock.
Believe it or not I've been a Linux fan since 1992.
Yggrasill was the release I cut my teeth on.
I've been using it ever since.
I was very dissapointed to see what redhat did.
This is not only going to hurt Redhat. But then again, Linux was never written with the intent to make money.
It has however helped many Computer scientists and professionals improve on thier careers. It helped me stay on top of my game and earn a decent salary.
I would not recommend buying Redhat Stock.
This SAP guy has no clue what computing was like in the 70s. Gates should think back as well. Open Source basically is like the old SIGS... except with the age of the internet it's much more structured. I wish Open Source existed when I was in College. I did subscribe to a a bunch of SIGDs when I was 16, and learned how to program through them. Now... Open Source reminds me of those days, and I have been using open source and contributing from time to time since 1992. I predicted in 1992, that in 20 years, Open Source would be mainstream and be prefered. Granted, curently we have to mature our Enterprise level support. Redhat destroyed Linux's reputation in the Enterprise by releasing Redhat AS 2.1, what a terrible distribution, no LVM support... gee. It's been hard enough convincing my employer to use Whitebox where we can. Also a large killer buisness intelligence application needed extremely fast I/O, faster than what our EMC SAN can turn out, so I ended up benchmarking on a P570 with the new storage array that IBM sells that replces the D80 stuff. It's not the OS that got me speed, it's the
... clone, patch, patch, patch, test, clone, patch, ... where's the savings? My company's IT department was too small to take on this ambitious project on it's own, so they hire consultants.
storage array, that damn thing is fast. The software, written by Demantra, isn't the fastest in the world. I believe if they partition the databases and index them we will get more speed. It must go through 15 million records. Well the Dell/EMC solution took 3 hours to run a job, the P570 took one hour.
Anyway, the new blade computing technology is now out, got to love infiniband. And Linux running on
the new technology is great, gotta love OpenMosix. Even more.. Mysql on OpenMosix. This could
eveolve into an Oracle killer. Larry Ellison needs to eat some humble pie anyway. They charge far too much for licenses, and anyone who runs Oracle knows
patch, patch. It's as if Oracle is designed this way on purpose. The ERP rollout at my company has been a killer. Over budget, does Larry know this crap can kill a company? Even a company that's been around for over a hundred years. My company let go IBM due to this. I don't believe Oracle India is the answer as well. Why.... well even though outsourcing saves you 66% or so, they don't get it right the first time, or second, or even the third sometimes. So
Possibly if we put together our own staff, we could have saved money. I don't want to mention how much overbudget we are. But it's huge, scary even.
If the company was open more to Open Source, and I was hired while they were debating over SAP, Oracle, DB2... I would have turned them on to other solutions.
Open Source isn't socialism. There is a lot of money to be made in supporting and Deploying Open Source.
Some people (Larry Ellison and CO.) tend to make money on the shirttails of Open Source, but if they were true Open Source then Oracle and the Application server code would be release as Open Source and who knows, maybe a product would evolve that won't need 3 family packs, a K10202 service pack.. etc.
Anyway sorry about all the text.. I just ended up venting a bit.
If you are a sysadmin that knows what you are doing, this worm would not effect you.
Linux is truly open. If you want to make changes, there's the source, there for your to do what you want. If you wish it to be included, get with the program, post the patch to
the kernel developers. If the code is worthy it will get into the kernel, if it needs work you will here about it from your piers.
Keep your old VCR in good shape. Also you can use hackable
PVR cards. I've got a PVR-250 and use Linux with it. I primarily bought it to encode my old family videos that are on VHS and Hi-8 video tape. I'm using Linux to create the mpeg2 streams and the DVDs.
A powerPC processor has it's advantages. It's a RISC processor, and the architecture is very effecient.
I think I'm going to buy a G5 or a MacMini soon.
I own a G3 yosemite running LinuxPPC, it's my firewall,IMAP,WWW,PHP server.
Redhat 5.0? I cut my teeth on Yggrassil. An add in Nuts & Volts magazine featured the Yggdrasil release way back. I believe it was 1992. I've been running Linux ever since!
At what cost? And what's going to be tagged? Pallets? Individual packages? If you are going to tag the actuall packages themselves you are talking $0.35 each. That cost
would more than likely get passed off to the consumer.
OUCH!
Don't use real IP addresses after the gateway. I do IP
MASQUERADING. I get only 1 ip address from my provider.
I've got a wireless webcam, a zaurus wireless pda, company assigned laptop, my linux development desktop computer, my Apple G3 running LinuxPPC (my gateway, web, imap server),
My oldest son't room with a Linux based AMD 64bit server, a
mini mac, a sharp zaurus, my 2 youngest boys room and thier
computer and a laptop up in thier room, my hombrew robot,
a hacked compaq IA-1 that runs linux that I use to monitor my firewall, email, etc.. All these devices get to the outside world on 1 ip address. I have multiple servers that
are accessed by the outside world via port redirection as
well.
My point is that we should be tighter with ip address allocation.
Why can't we... the people.. boycott all new music?
Hit them where they live. Time to organize.
They won't last 3 months.
An LSB distribution isn't optimized for your target processor. I tried Suse and Fedora in a VM. (compared to a Gentoo Image in a VM)I didn't like it. I'm hooked on Gentoo! Imagine, a distribution that's optimized for your target platform! It works! I've got Gentoo running on my ShuttlePC, Apple G3 (my firewall/IMAP/SMTP/WWW) server, my oldest son's AMD64 desktop. All of these installations are optimized for the hardware they are running on with Gentoo.
Now, in a DataCenter configuration you could create an optimized base image and setup a
jumpstart style installation server. This base
image should only contain the bare essentials to get your servers up and running, the applications
unique to your hosts could be installed with emerge later on.
The result, a very fast OS.
Add 10oz acetone to 11gals gasoline! 28% gain in MPG.
This guy is a bloody idiot.
I'd go with a unix based operating system, build .. or why not rewrite and centralize your authentication on a modified Open LDAP server!
a HA active/active cluster that consists of at lease 3 nodes each. If you are an Intel shop I'd go with
6 Dell 6650 poweredge servers. Some form of SAN, or
NAS storage. 1M users must mean a budget so I would go with an EMC CX600. I'd use Linux HA. Configure
the first three servers as your mail hub, configure your accounts, imap, ldap, pop, webclient, etc. on your next three servers. Sendmail gets bashed but I'd tell you what... It is stable and when configured properly it is secure. LDAP can be populated via your Active Directory
If you don't have to time to roll your own system, check out scalix. Roger Williams University (my son attends there) uses Scalix. www.scalix.com
Write code? Gee I don't want to have to go out and Buy Monta Vista when I have a prefectly good distribuation to work with. How do you boot and
install your own OS? JTAG? Is there going to be
shell root access so we can make our own modifications?
Hmmm..... sun had a laptop called the tadpole.
It was available in the 90s.
Any digital engineer will tell you that the PowerPC
processor 's architecture is far superior to that
of Intel's Pentium series. The public overall is ignorant to the fact so they just look for high clock speeds. It's too bad, I think this move is going to lead to the death of Apple's computer line.
Who knows, Jobs may have to sell the IPOD to some other company.
I would rather see a MAC powered by 8 IBM Cell processors.
That would be a box. But a Pentium M? (Yawn)
This is not exciting really. The PowerPC processor is superior. If this is the direction Apple is heading, only the Ipod will have market share.
I will not buy a Intel based Mac.
I hope this is all just hype. I have several computers at home. I've got my Linux development box running an AMD Barton w/gentoo, I've got an Apple G3 w/gentoo (it's my firewall, webserver, mail, imap, and Linux PPC dev box). I really like the PPC architecture.
My Sister in law has two boys. I'm an engineer
and have three sons.
Who thinks this stuff up? A genetic dispostition is more like it.