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RIAA Trying to Copy-Protect Radio
doctorfaustus writes "The EFF is reporting that "the RIAA has been pushing the FCC to impose a copy-protection mandate on the makers of next-generation digital radio receiver/recorders (think TiVo-for-radio)." According to Mike Godwin, "Never mind that digital audio broadcasting is not significantly greater in quality than regular, analog radio. Never mind that its music quality is vastly less than than that of audio CDs. In spite of these inconvenient facts, the RIAA is hoping that the transition to "digital audio broadcasting" will provide enough confusion and panic that they can persuade Congress or the FCC to impose some kind of copy-protection scheme or regulation on digital radio broadcast." "
In other news, the RIAA is pushing the FCC for copy-protection on vocal cords.
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shoot RIAA, and take them out of our misery.
"To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
From Ronald Eagleye, our on the spot reporter, Fenwick Finster was apprehended while recording FM radio broadcasts on his digital video camera at the public swimming pool, after RIAA informers tipped off police. Finster claimed it was clearly a misunderstanding, though he refused to explain why he was in the women's locker room with the video camera under his trenchcoat.
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>>Never mind that digital audio broadcasting is not significantly greater in quality than regular, analog radio. Never mind that its music quality is vastly less than than that of audio CDs.
Never mind that the huge majority of radio stations play absolute crap like "Lite 80s" or Top 40 for teenage girls.
I ran tens of thousands of dollars of radio ads this year for my retail stores (focused on 10-22 year olds). Few people heard them.
Why? Radio is dead or dying for most younger people. All my employees under 21 podcast or listen to playlists. The RIAA doesn't really have any idea what they're chasing. Putting a Band-Aid on a corpse is useless.
I'm not fan of music piracy (I used to run a warez pirate BBS 15 years back) anymore. Why? There is nothing worth pirating. The radio doesn't appeal to the market that likes that music. People used to go to concerts, too, but my last concert was $95/ticket for an fairly-unknown electronica band -- the crowd was thin.
Let them DRM everything valuable to them. I'm fine with it! I have no desire to bootleg what I can afford to buy if it pleases me enough. I'll continue to go to $8 Indie bar shows, buy the bands' $10 CDs and $10 T-shirts, and ignore my car radio. My house hasn't had a radio for 10 years.
As it gets harder for consumers to consume, they switch to something easier. I feel bad for record shops and radio ad sales people. The end is coming, but they don't see it.
As for quality, who cares? Radio-friendly music is already fidelity-free from excessive compression, gating, and over mastering. Even my MP3'd music is only 96k, my noise floor in the car and outside that I don't mind the loss of resolution.
Don't hate the RIAA, they're already not a concern. It's like hating VHS Macrovision.
Mmmm... Digital Terrestrial Television will follow DAB in a few months. According to recent laws all trasmission will be digital before the end of 2006. I wonder if this will mean that some show or film won't be "recordable".
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So when are they going to attempt to ban people from listening from the music, so nobody can attempt to reproduce it by whistling?
RIAA must be stopped, it shocks me that we've allowed them to get this far.
As I recall, Any broadcast media is allowed to be recorded for personal use. This goes against that very idea.
.. or if it isn't it should be. If I bother with internet at all, I will use internet radio. But I just pick a random station. It's all about gaining a new perspective. You simply can't do that on over the air radio. .....
So. the RIAA can do whatever they want with radio. Preferably roll it up real tight and shove it up their
btw I've heard some interesting music out of Iran lately.....
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I could see this in the form of an XM like device, with PPV radio on demand, but I'm not sure the concept of tivo for radio will really pay off. It's not worth the effort. That's what music on CDs is for. As far as programs go, most people are perfectly happy turning the radio on and playing whatever happens to be on at the time.
I could tivo my radio now with the capture card in my computer and dump mp3 files of shows I like but never happen to catch such as Car Talk, to disk and play that in my car right now. The odds of me actually doing it are very, very small.
Never confuse volume with power.
killed the radio star.
But the RIAA is killing radio.
Same as email received is the property of the owner, isn't signal received property of the receiver?
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ClearChannel has the patent on this, by airing music not worth copying in the first place.
"My ears! The earmuffs do nothing!"
The RIAA might be bribing our Senators and Congressmen with hundreds of millions but now even many artists are turning against them. It seems like the RIAA is slowly beginning to falter because they can't take the heat and the intense criticism from all directions anymore.
I don't care about this in the slightest.
I gave up listening to radio regularly years ago when my favorite station in Minneapolis turned into a Dianna Ross style station for 3 whole days. And now in South Dakota, the stations aren't much better, 90% country! *shudder*
These days if I remember I might listen to some Prairie Home Companion, Love Line, or Bob & Tom in the Morning.
Other than that... I no longer care what goes on on the radio as I've got my iPod wired into my deck and am quite happy with commercial free, hi-fidelity commutes!
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The recording industry has proposed that the FCC (1) prevent redistribution of recordings onto the Internet, removable media or to other devices; and (2) limit searching and automated copying such as by artist or song title so that individual recordings cannot be separated from surrounding content.
Good for them.
Vague solution, so are they saying that they want the recording to somehow STAY on the recording device? They must have some magick or something that will accomplish that! And that you cannot just record a song, without,say, recording the lead-in from the DJ and the commercial afterwards (surrounding content)?
They just don't get it. If people want your songs for free, they will get it. One way or another. Goddamnit, how long will it take them to realize this so I don't have to see the "**AA is trying to steal our rights again" versus "Our revenues (and even the hard working music store clerk too!!) are going to be devistated! Waaah!" get rehashed over and over and over.
And the sad thing is most of whats out there on commercial radio I wouldn't care about even if it was truly FREE from the get go.
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In my opinion, it is the existence of free radio that makes it so hard to feel guilty about downloading illegal music. You turn on the radio, and you can hear all kinds of music for free. When the commercials come on, you simply switch channels and continue listening to more free music.
When people grow up listening to music for free...it's kinda hard to make the switch.
iBiquity is the company that created and licenses the HD Radio technology and they say that it is CD quality. I would not expect the broadcasters to be that interested in spending millions of dollars to roll out something that sounds equivalent to what they have now.
...really disturbing. Whatever my bias may be, it is hard not to consider that the riaa is simply trying to control everything. What about college radio stations that play indipendent music, or when the radio plays artists that arent really concerned about piracy issues? It looks more and more like the riaa are becoming control freaks...
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Once you cut out the commercials and DJ blabber, that will leave approximately 1 hour of actual music that should fit nicely into that 64 megs.
Seriously, does anyone bother with the radio? I swear that I can make a 5 mile trip without hearing a single song on most stations.
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I just took a micro cassette recorder, and recorded myself farting onto a snare drum. I wonder how long it will be before the RIAA says that is copyright protected.
I know nothing
There were the same sort of claims when FM radio came out - the quality is so much better than FM that it will encourage people to record the content illegally. I'm not worrying too much about this; it's like saying you can't tape a TV show you missed because you were at work.
"Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." - Ford Prefect
to stop recording of their holy radio, and that's to stop broadcasting. If you can hear it, you can record it!
Aside from that, I listen to public radio, no commercials and better quality.
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Tomorrow has been canceled due to lack of interest.
In a recent press release, an explanation for Finster's whereabouts has been given. "The women's locker room has the best reception," said Harold "The Grease" Lackmeyer, counsel for Finster.
...treat your customers as criminals and expect 'em to like it. And, as other posters noted, most of the manufactured, fake, top-40 pop shit on modern corporate radio isn't worth listening to (let alone pirating) in the first place.
So, RIAA, I have four words to say: fuck off and die.
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If the RIAA wants to make it illegal to record what is broadcast over the airwaves then they need to say: "The following may not be recorded on any medium for any purpose." before any content they do not want to have people record. I admit this will get tedious but it will ensure that they are protected and consumers know that they do not have the rights to record what they are listening to. Clear cut and simple to implement.
I am not on their side. I am just trying to point out there are ways to accomplish what they want without making more stupid laws.
Nothing is impossible. It just hasn't been figured out yet.
The differences between analog and digital can seem numerous and great - especially if you get a couple thousand on the side from the people presenting these "facts" to you.
I got to the point a little while ago where I'm not completely blaming the RIAA etc for pushing stupid legislation but for the politicians in accepting it. If stupid legislation gets passed, we really only have a small group of people to blame.
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Since they stated that the quality is not excellent to begin with, I doubt anyone would have a problem with just sampling the analog output if they wanted to record it.
I can see where satellite radio is a win - things like sports or other "live" events. Given the ubiquity of mp3 players, why the ?%!(&# do people want to pay a monthly rent to get music (actually, limited-selection, slanted-towards-favorites music) when a few months rent pays for the mp3 player?
They you could make/play your own stuff, including B-sides and all the other songs OTHER than those 40 classic rock dinosaurs floatin' about.
I really believe that some of management and the lawyers in the content industry don't really care about whether their absurd proposals have actual monetary benefits. It's really about territory. Pissing on the tree before any other dog does. Defending the hunting grounds, etc.
The funny thing is that this behavoir in dogs is no longer adapted to their human living environment, just some atavistic reflex...
This is not an attempt to place blanket copy protection on radio broadcasts.
This is an attempt to prevent TIVO-like devices from recording on any other basis than "as-broadcast." You want to record a song? No problem, according to the request. You want your DAR to record every song played by a certain artist? Not allowed.
The broadcast industry wants to preserve their ability to send advertising to their audiences. The recording industry wants to preservce their ability to sell albums to the public.
I don't see a problem with those goals.
In the long run, though, I can't see radio music broadcasting being profitable, except for live performances. There are far too many competing access points to music.
"Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai
Even if it doesn't make sense. That way, when they whittle you down to something less, they feel like they've accomplished something. Meanwhile, you get what you want.
We all know the tactic. It's like salary negotiations during an interview.
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rediculous.
Fuck it. Let em. The only people that record off the radio are 12 year olds making mix tapes for the "love of their life" at school. And that's only if they don't have internet access.
When will the riaa get it through their skulls that this kind of campaing can be compared to the so called "war on terrorism". They will never be able to stop illigal downloading/copying of music until they realize they are no longer going to be able to charge $18(US) for a cd. People don't want to go to a store to by a cd anymore; they want to download the song they heard on the radio that they thought was sweet. I personally think record companies in general are heading out. Bands and musicians really don't need them anymore to promote their music, or to sell it for that matter. With the kinds of software available, and a huge marketing tool, a la internet, at the fingertips most musicians and bands are fully capable of getting their music out to the general public. I think it will be some time before this really picks up, but believe me, I think they realize they are on their way out the door(due in part the rediculouse amounts of money they charge bands and musicians to even create an album, not to mention the fact that they must take a huge percentage of the profits to fill their fat pockets). I recently visited a site,Taxi.com [taxi.com], that is the first step in getting to this point. (Albeit a small one)
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I don't own an XM radio. I can't see buying one and then paying for a monthly subscription to listen to crappy music. If the RIAA succeeds it'll reduce the value proposition even further.
1) Kill off all the distribution channels for your product.
2) ????
3) Profit!!
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People who pay for digital radio arent the ones pirating material.
In fact, this is probably just gonna piss people off - I've heard of people who record digital radio, then put it onto their ipods in batches, so they can listen to new music all the time, and its portable.
The purpose of digital radio is to eliminate the need for owning so much music, and that means you dont need to pirate OR buy tons of music! The point of digital radio was to get decent quality, original material on an ongoing basis - its like Napster, only you dont have to do all the research (look for good bands) on your own - they do the work for you.
What they really need is portable digital radios! And bundle it in with another service, like cell-phones or cable TV!
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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -Hunter S. Thompson
Ok, I have no motivation whatsoever right now to adopt any new form of radio, and this further demotivates me.
These people keep thinking they can control everything that we think, do, or say. When the founders of the USA wrote the bill of rights and drafted our first laws, they had no intention whatsoever that they would be abused this way.
Software patents? Now I cannot program an application that is an interface for presenting and displaying playback information on a portable device because microsoft owns the patent? Come on. Lame.
Music? I'm sorry, but I have no realistic alternative to buying the CD if I want to listen to music. Radio sucks (ok, the commercials more than anything else), and I have no good reason to pay 99 cents for a song on iTunes. I, for one, like the pretty box.
I have no doubt that HDTV might have been pushed forth a lot sooner if anyone settled on a standard. Instead, they've been debating the different ways to present the media, and most recently the biggest qualm is with the feared broadcast flag. If it weren't for things like broadcast flag, I'm sure I could have been watching Sonic SatAM in HD 12 years ago.
Need another point? BluRay or HD-DVD? Nope. The biggest debate I've seen is piracy control. Encryption schemes, manufacturing processes, etc. The studios are leaning away from HD-DVD because they basically utilize the same technology as existing DVDs, but BluRay didn't have the must have CSS (Consumer Screwed Severely) version 2.0.
Bloody hell. Instead of promoting innovation, this system promotes stagnation. I for one, am sick and tired of it. And anyone who questions that... I'd like to point out that, while aural recording techniques have dramatically improved over the past 20 years, we're still using the same basic late 70s/early 80s tech to record most of the world's CDs. I know there's nothing wrong with the proven tech, but why do CDs still run $16 a pop?
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Will somebody please explain how the analog hole works to the RIAA .... oh never mind
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When a couple of years ago they were talking about "plugging the analog hole." After all it doesn't matter what copy protection you put in as soon as it goes out to the speakers someone could then convert it back to digital and make a copy of the music. I guess they were going to force all makers of A/D converters to check to make sure they weren't reading in copyrighted material. Never mind that you could in theory be able to make your own A/D converter out of radio shack parts if you knew what you are doing, or that millions of older A/D converters and the sound cards that use them have already been sold, or that the cost of these copy right checkers would probably cost more than the a/d converters themselves. I can see it now: someone in some hospital plays music too loud. The A/D converters in the life saving monitors all shut down at once because they accidentally picked up copyrighted material. This kills dozens of people -- but at least no one used those A/D converters to pirate music!
I wonder how much money they estimate is lost due to radio recordings. I used to record tapes when I was a little kid. If I recorded a tape it was because I didn't have money or didn't care enough to buy it - either way they wouldn't have received one dime from me for that song. The quality is so terrible, they censor the hell out of them, and usually the song is cut off or faded out early. I'm pretty sure radio recordings are one of the smallest threats to the recording industry.
Why is the RIAA trying to copyright radio? Ive pretty much stopped listening to the Radio, there is too much talking by the DJs and too many commercials that and the fact they play the same music over and over. RIAA is alot like Microsoft but instead of pantents they try to put copyright protection on everything.
GL HF!
One of the many possible misuses of these broadcasts, given the many audio editing software tools out there today, would be the recording and editing of these broadcasts to make broadcasters appear to take positions (political, ethical, or other) that are the exact opposite of what they actually represent.
Listen to the Don and Mike radio show and sooner or later you will hear edited audio of Govenor Arnold S. of California espousing positions exactly opposite of his stated ones.
Like him or not, copyright of digital broadcasts could give originators of content the legal protection they need to limit others from profiting from or generally smearing their reputation.
With respect to not copying the music--- go buy the CD if it's that good. The owner of the product determines the license agreement.
Cogito Ergo Sum
First they took off Howard Stern in the morning. I had no reason to listen to the radio on the way to work because I don't like any other morning talk program (it's surprisingly hard to find a station that plays music in the morning). Next they took the three rock stations I liked (very classic rock, classic rock, and modern rock) and transitioned them all over to playing the same songs (mostly modern) but in different frequencies to justify the distinctions. Now I have no reason to listen to the radio om the way home. A friend offered to fix my radio for free when it broke. I asked, "Why? What would I listen to?"
So now you want to make DRM radio? Knock yourselves out! I don't care.
~Ben
The Federal Court has already struck down the broadcast flag for TV and the same applies for radio. Ergo: The RIAA doesn't stand a chance.
Besides, with the FCC playing an increasingly irrelevant role and its regulatory power being questioned, the FCC might soon not even have the regulatory powers anymore to mandate any of RIAA's dubious and controversial proposals.
My wife is a big country fan. She has gotten me hooked on one of our local radio stations. It is a small town station that is sometimes hard to pick up but it is well worth it.
They actually like music at that station!
Not only that but they are part of the community. They have a show called DialnDeal every morning where people call in to sell and buy stuff and they broadcast the local high school games football games.
Even the ads are not annoying. They are for local stores and they also seem like part of the community. Clear Channel is what is killing radio. The small town stations that are still independent can still be gems.
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I don't care about recording, saving, or anything. Nothing broadcast on the radio is worth keeping.
All I want is to timeshift the am broadcasts of baseball games by about 3 seconds so they mathc up with the (satellite) television broadcast I'm watching. Any simple way to do that one?
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Surely we don't expect someone to start publishing instructions for "analog audio recording into your storage device"?
Yeah, we lose a few bits of quality but hey, it's what people have been doing for decades. I just hope the RIAA don't start using DRM'ed brain implants so there's no analog audio at all... *rolls eyes*
here comes the usual "radio is dead" comments
radio may be dead if you live in the middle of nowhere and get one pop station
i live in midtown manhattan, so i get unbelievable listening choices over radio... everything from classical to jazz to country to bbc to classic rock to one station that plays reggaeton nonstop all day, would that ever appeal to me
and for such a listener as me, i chose the iRiver IFP-180T simply because it has a radio tuner, and would never buy an iPod, because i can't believe apple wouldn't devote the 50 cents it would cost to put a radio tuner in there
so please, comment in the idiocy that is the RIAA, but enough with the "radio is dead" refrain just because you can't get a good station in east bohunk arkansas
it may be dead whereever you live in rural usa, but it's not dead in the cities
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Protecting the wealth of the already wealthy but not helping a poor working man to feed his family si what the current congress is all about. Maybe it's time to "score" getting the rich of George Bush and his buddies in Congress as "on topic".
Seems like the Republicans forgot all about "big government interfering in the free markets to help special interests".
I ran tens of thousands of dollars of radio ads this year for my retail stores (focused on 10-22 year olds). Few people heard them. Why? Radio is dead or dying for most younger people.
Wrong. Few people heard them because most radio stations run commercials for what seems like 5-10 minutes at a stretch, so that they can advertise "50-minute non-stop music". They don't realize that most people, when they hit that eon-long commercial break, just switch to a different station with a similar format.
It's not like TV, where you'd end up missing half of a half-hour program--it's one self-contained four-minute song after another. (Talk radio and similar shows are the exception, natch, but you did specify 10-22 year olds.)
There's a station here in Chicago called NineFM. Tagline: "We play anything" -- they're one of a growing number of what I think of as "iPod Shuffle stations". What really distinguishes them, though, is that they have more but shorter commercial breaks -- usually three or four ads max -- which the listener is more willing to wait through. It's a win-win situation, ad-wise. Honestly, it's half the reason I listen to them almost all the time.
I'll bet a lot of people feel like I do: if something is really worth it, I'll gladly pay for it. What the RIAA is up against is not mp3 or p2p or xyz. Their problem is their product.
Most stuff out there is completely insulting. Seriously. How many talentless "pretty faces" get record deals? Britney Spears. Jesse McCartney. Hillary Duff. Destiny's Child. Need I say more? I remember seeing this interview with Prince (who IS a real artist), and he was trying to encourage some of these "musicians" to learn music (like how to read it, etc.) Are you serious? Some of the most popular acts that the RIAA is peddling don't even know music?!? That's like me holding a well paying job as a carpenter and not even knowing how to use a saw!
When you couple that with the fact that they are just not smart enough to figure out how to utilize new technologies (which is evident by how hard they fight against said technologies) and it is easy to see why they are continually losing business (or so they claim).
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I wish the RIAA had more gold and platinum albums to award, so they aren't so bored into doing crap like this.
And for another topic?
What other forms of business where the business model is to put your product over the freely available air waves and then require the government to lessen the freedom's of its people in order to protect that business?
WTF?
Did the government decide VHS or beta? What about the DVD format?
Beef, its what's for dinner!
As long as people's response to RIAA depradations on our rights to use the content we own fairly are met with only defensive actions, they'll never stop. We need to put people representing fair copyright use on the RIAA board of directors. Like FSF people, or Archive.org people, or others from the "Creative Commons" community. People making digital recordings all day long, of content and apps, who want the widest possible use of our recordings. Where do I apply?
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Since we keep on hearing the RIAA and MPAA wanting to apply these flags to prevent any sort of copying, I was wondering whether people would accept something else: degraded copies.
The idea being that you can record anything off the air, but video quality is reduced to that of an average VHS and audio to that of an audio tape. This was you can at least have a local copy, but it isn't as good as the one you can get in the shops. This may sound like what Macrovision tries to do, except Macrovision varies the colour intensity, so you wouldn't want to watch the copy either way.
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(Disclaimer - I am a former iBiquity employee...)
Broadcasters may choose to reduce the bit-rate of their primary (audio) program in order to make room for additional audio or potentially other services. (This information is readily available at ibiquity.com.) Thus, the audio quality is - as has historically been the case - largely dependent on the individual broadcaster.
As well, the topic of 'audio quality/fidelity' is a highly subjective topic. There are plenty of audiophiles who don't like CD's...
Your monitor is staring at you.
Ever notice how nobody can ever spell DMCA properly?
... hehheh
Im always calling it the "DCMA" or the "DCMCA" or the "DMCMCA"
Its one of those vague meaningless acronyms that fail to register as "something valuable" in our minds. And the brain is very good at forgetting useless crap.
Their job right now is to protect themselves as much as possible. Though they have no real thing to worry about (or maybe they do, who knows) they need to protect as much as they can otherwise they will be seen as failures. The key for them is to get as much protection as possible...irrelevant of true need. Just get it...and if they keep trying over and over (BTW...HOW DOES A PRIVATE CORPROATION get to INTRODUCE legislation to MY Congress? WTF man?) eventually some stupid person will stick their bill on as a tagger to something significant and they will steal a little more of our freedom...sigh...i wish it were still 1899 in terms of legislation in this great nation of the USA...
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To those who say "No one listened to my ad" as proof that no one listens to the radio, I have to ask when was the last time you actually listened to an ad? Radio tends to be background noise; I certainly don't make an effort to listen to an ad. Shoot, in the car I'll often quickly switch the station for the duration of the ads in my primary station (I find radio in the car much easier than swapping out CDs, XM receivers, or hooking up an iPod - besides, sometimes I enjoy listening to NPR).
Radio may have diminished since its heyday, but it's certainly far from dead.
This seems to me to be related, at least in part, to the practice of having governments prop-up certain industries. I personally see no actual good coming from this. As an example, if the government would simply let one of the airlines fold and go under, it would bolster all the others, sooner or later, via increased business.
I think the *AA are asking the government to protect their businesses, and doing so without thorough reasoning. If the *AA members cannot continue to make money with their current business models, and are not changing their business models, then LET THEM FAIL!
Clearly, there are arguments on all sides of this topic, but I do not think that the government/FCC/any-other-bureau should prop them up so they don't fail. If you can't stay in business on your own, using the existing laws if necessary, then you don't need to be in business. There is no need for new laws. Adding DRM to digital recorders is a ploy to take away our rights, bolster the *AA member's businesses, and build a foundation for continued bullying of the justice system to take away even more rights in the future.
I say, let them go bankrupt!!
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The FCC's Content-Flag for TV recently got struck down by the Federal Court System. In their decision the Court found that the FCC lacked the authority to regulate signal receivers.
I fail to see how this case is any different.
The FCC may only regulate the transmission of signals. To regulate the reception of signals the Congressional Act establishing the FCC would have to be modified to grant the FCC additional needed authority
....Thus sayeth the Courts
Then I'd like to make sure that we make this wonderful technology available first to the RIAA.
Mitosis error 432: Copy protected media found
It was a joke! When you give me that look it was a joke.
"Let's hope you never leave old friend
Like all good things on you we depend
So stick around, cause we might miss you
When we grow tired of all this visual.
You had your time, you had the power,
You've yet to have your finest hour,
Radio."
-- Radio Gaga - Queen
When will you finally conclude that consumption of mass media is neither required, nor even beneficial for your lives?
Let them cement themselves into their irrelevance.
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It's getting to the point where the best solution is to start making your own music - the RIAA is doing their best to make their member's products (music) undesirable ones.
Time to dust off my trombone, get some more GarageBand loops, a decent mic...
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Notice it says digital broadcasts, not just the songs that might be part of the broadcasts, because it'll certainly be cheaper to make the whole bitstream uncopy-able than to add a circuit to the receiver to turn protection on and off at the beginning and end of each song.
So, if I were still working as an announcer, I wouldn't even be able to record a digital aircheck of my own voice unless I took the post D/A converter analog audio and converted it back to digital, and we can all guess how easy that will be once the RIAA can dictate design and features to manufacturers.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
"Well, we've got it for radio, why not for CD's? Or cable TV?"
"I have never won a debate with an ignorant person." -Ali ibn Abi Talib
After all, it was originally imposed on blank recording media - tape, CD-RW, DVD-RW, etc - to pay for the taping by music enthusiasts of album/song broadcasts on radio.
So if they want to make radio music copy-protected, I want a $10,000 refund check. No, better make that in cash - small unmarked bills.
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If I buy Sat. Radio I think I'm headed toward Sirius because of the lifetime subscription offer. That's slightly more appealing than a subscription. But, I want more flexibility in my radio equipment before I decide to buy.
I mean, honestly, they don't seem interested in distributing music, just denying people access to it.
They have taken ANY modern form of music distribution and ignored any possiblity of adapting to a new industry of music NOT distributed in a physical state like tapes or disks.
What I don't understand is why musicians don't just dump the RIAA period. There is no legal reason for the RIAA to exist and I really doubt they are a comittee acting in the best interests of the muscians, just suits looking out for their own bottom line.
We have reached a point in time when ANYONE can set up a decent digital recording studio, I think musicians should simply start going independent, record and distribute their own stuff and bypass the whole corporate music world.
You don't need to distribute music on CD any more, and even if you do, CD mass production is cheap and affordable, a few thousand to master a glass disk and produce copies. But you can still offer better quality digital files online (straight from the recording studio, unmolested by "CD Quality") and sell them like any other eCommerce product. Sure, your going to get those that simply rip you off and distribute the file for free, but if your a band that makes good music, you will develop a following of fans that will want to pay you to ensure you continue to make good music. How many independent artists out their are far better then the cookie cutter bands and fluff singers that the corporate world dumps on us. Who in their right mind would (or should) pay for another Britney spears disaster? Also, with a large fan base you will get them coming out to concerts and performances which cannot be pirated, you have to pay to watch them live.
I think that the "artists" that support the RIAA are just in it for the money, happy to whore themselves to the music industry to make a quick buck. Any self respecting musician should start looking into indepenent labels and not care about music piracy. They would be happy to make enough money to earn a decent living ( more decent then I can earn ) and not worry about potentially losing millions through piracy, any artist that does is a corporate kiss ass sell out!
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
Dear Sir / Madame,
It has come to our attention that you have illegality produced and recorded a reproduction of track 5 on the 2005 release "Brittany Spears Favorite Outtakes"
If you do not comply with the following within 48 hours, we will pursue legal action against you to seize all properly listed under your name and garnish your wages for damages.
Send all recordings to us.
Destroy the snare drum used in the creation of this track. Send us the remains.
Send us the micro cassette recorder.
Send us any and all hardware you possess capable of recording audio, video or still images in an analog or digital format.
Pay $30,000 in damages for each copy of the recording produced.
Pay an additional $90,000 in damages for each copy of the recording distributed by yourself or others.
Have a nice day.
The RIAA
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What I don't get is how it is such a huge deal now when people don't record stuff off the radio. Where were they when people were recording stuff to cassettes?
That is the way capital should flow, if what they are pushing is an advertising medium.
After all, it is MY time that they are consuming with commercials, so I should be reimbursed. At $49.95/hour.
In the future, there is practically an infinite amount of content to consume, but the consumer has a finite amount of time in which to consume it.
It will become more and more difficult to attract a sizable audience for anything, given the vast array of time-consuming media available.
So why not simply pay the viewer to check out that one-time-only, copy-protected, commerical-ridden, formula-derived sitcom?
If the RIAAA really wanted to make money, they should spend those millions helping to revive music programs in School. Where they will see the greatest gain is encouraging children to learn and perform music. The return on their investment should be better than giving it to some idiot lawyer.
"Yes you really love Mariyln Manson, yes you REALLY DO. Because you go to church DOES not mean you hate Marilyn is cool, and there no devil worship on an RIAA label. Now we at the RIAA think that sales are down, so you are going to buy Marilyn's cd (insert name), then your going to another cd until we at the RIAA decide that our profit margins are mega. This hypnosis message ends"
The riaa will own you. you may hate the music but hey who cares, you bought it. George Orwell should be proud.
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Also, as a person in his late 20's, I can say with absolute authority that I have *NO* patience left at all. None whatsoever. My time is extremely valuable to me personally, and to the folks who pay for it, and I consider listening/watching advertisements and bad music, or even music I dont want to listen to at the moment a sin of the highest order.
I think I am the worst case scenario in a group of people who sees *NO VALUE* in being entertained on someone elses schedule. The days of waiting for your favorite song on the radio, or your favorite episode of something are dead and gone. Between DVD purchases and internet downloads I have every episode of every show I like avaliable to me, all stored on cheap HDs. I carry the complete Aqua Teen Hunger Force DVDs ripped to my laptop, it doesn't even use much space! If I want to see a specific episode of something, I *WATCH THAT EPISODE*.
My *REAL* challenge with media is finding new stuff I like as my free time is almost zero. A service which could reliably recommend good music would be very valuable to me. Right now I use Amazon, a network of like minded friends, and i download tons of albums and go buy the ones I like ... but this is very time consuming.
Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley
Yes, but then you listen and hear:
"Hi, I'm Scott Stapp, of Creed, with an urgent message for all the citizens of hurricane-stricken New Orleans. I strongly urge you to evacuate immediately, and head to Baton Rouge, where you can find my new hit single, 'Lift me higher than the flood', in record stores now".
"Never mind that its music quality is vastly less than than that of audio CDs." What? My XM radio quality is equally as good as CD! Whoever wrote this must either be talking about Terrestrial Digital Broadcast, or they just have no clue...
Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit!
I should take a picture of my finger (guess which one), place it in the public domain, and send it to all **AA organizations.
This freely-distributable, public domain, royalty free image will present a far more powerful message than any of the current valueless pop-culture tripe that **AA is so adamant about protecting.
The problem with socialism is that they always run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher
Quality is objective and measurable. Tastes are not. Some people prefer vacuum tube sound, despite of its higher noise and distortion levels. They feel the noise and distortion make the sound "richer" or "smoother" or whatever is their favorite adjective. Good for them.
However, that has nothing to do with quality/fidelity. If you define "fidelity" as being as close to the original sound as possible, CDs are definitely better than the very best analog sound recording and reproduction systems ever made. At least, I have never read about any analog sound recording technology that reaches the 96 dB signal/noise ratio at up to 22 kHz that is possible with CDs.
is the real problem. Piracy as I see it seems to be the only thing controlling prices on the music. Steve Jobs has just stated that Apple will resist price changes at the iTunes store. He cites their greed as the only motivation to increase the price. I have seen many recording artist (some still in their teens) that wealthy that they will not have work again in their lives. That is true today as it was 50 years. So, what is piracy real impact? I am no advocate for piracy but stopping piracy completely will opened the door to price gouging. Ultimately, their greed is going to have a significant impact on American culture.
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Didn't one of Eminem's CDs sell like 20 million copies? Even if 10,000 people pirated the entire thing, that's not even a significant loss so I don't know what the RIAA is whining about... I feel that people should buy CDs to support the band that they like. I only download music that I would never consider buying in the first place. Also I think if, "Nobody listened to the radio" that there wouldn't be any money in it and then it wouldn't exist.
All your bass are belong to us?
Had to be done.
Come on, you laughed!
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
"You know those annoying radio ads where two people yabber back and forth...I made a shedload of those". Hey, maybe I made some of those ads for you. I worked in radio for a while at a VERY big
station, and I even won a few Sony and RAP awards. I'll tell you the truth about Digital Radio. It's dead. It was stillborn in 2002. I know because I made the launch packages for some of the early big DAB stations, and every single one of them died within a few months. (ok maybe it was my production, but somehow I doubt it). The fact is there are no listeners. Penetration of DAB radios in the european market is less than 1 percent.
Whatever the RIAA wants to do abut DAB in America I would ignore it, they are talking about dead technology.
So we have another case of RIAA (and their partners, like the MPAA) violating your rights. Copy protection and Digital Rights Management have absolutely nothing to do with copyright. While they do help maintain a copyright holder's control on what is released...they also violate your rights under copyright law, mainly to "fair use." RIAA and their push for all media to be put under DRM, are pushing for your rights to be violated. In my opinion, this makes them no better, and just as evil, as those who violate any other right.
Once you obtain media, you have a right to use it yourself however you see fit, so long as you do not copy for distribution, particularly for profit. And I for one, don't know why so many people let the RIAA, MPAA, and others get away with violating this right.
Name a song from those played on the radio that is "much the same" as those punk fans are calling awesome, and don't blame me if someone tells you that you have a tin ear.
Fuck Them.
but how would some kind of copy-protection scheme or regulation on digital radio broadcast effect internet radio stations. i know that they arent very popular right now, but they ae gaining popularity
There are really two extremist movements out there: Those who say that the digital era requires a maximum extent of intellectual property rights, even to the extent where those IPRs are against the interests of creative people; and those who oppose IPRs to the maximum extent because they believe that everything in the digital world should be free (or based on some flat fee for content).
My own position is that technological change can affect IP policy either way, sometimes in favor of broader rights, sometimes in favor of more limited rights, always dependent upon the specific case. Patents on computer program logic are undesirable because the patent system doesn't work well in that field. However, strengthening the interests of copyright holders is IMO a necessity in this new era. I believe that such organizations as the FSF and EFF should show much more respect for the interests of those rights holders.
The criterion should be: What is in the interest of those who make independent creations without totally unreasonably restricting the rights of consumers? Software patents limit the ability of people to make independent creations of their own, which is why I'm against them. However, all composers and performers of music potentially benefit from a legislative framework that is favorable to copyright holders, including such cases as this one in which the ability of people to produce copies without any loss of quality would be restricted.
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Even if you find a station with a format that doesn't suck, there is a high probability that the station mangles the audio with very aggressive use of audio processing (Orban Optimod and similar devices).
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Never mind how RIAA wants copy right protection for radio broadcasting.
The question is: how radio broadcasting can get protection from RIAA members?
The RIAA member recording industry is having a stonghold on FM radio and television broadcasting. RIAA members are virtually monopolizing public air waves for their own products, created by them.
When was the last time when you heard a new song on FM radio or music tv, which was not soon or recently released by RIAA member companies? When was the last time when FM radio DJ discovered a brand new, unsigned or indie band?
There should be a public FM radio playlist database maintained, FM radio and music television content should not have 100% RIAA content.
...is pirate and streams. Pretty much, if one person or a handful of poeple program/format the station as a labor of love, it really shows. Bagelradio.com, somafm.com, piratecatradio.com. these are all really great sources of music that aren't mainstream radio stations.
So yeah, they can go ahead and make clear channel hobble their broadcast. You're right, nobody's listening. The people who actually do seek out and listen to a mix of tunes somebody else put together know where to get great content online or tune in to a pirate station.
Personally, after a year of my iPod on shuffle I don't know if I could stand to listen to a commercial and a DJ along with my music.
If you encrypt radio where I cant listen to it without some expensive receiver then you cannot broadcast your signals across my property.
Maybe it's time for the RIAA to remember why satilite operators are able to broadcast over everyone's property without paying fees.
It doesn't matter one whit. I'll record digital radio the same way I now record analog radio: a wire with one plug in the radio's headphone jack and a plug on the PC's AUX IN jack.
All sound is analog. Digital "sound" isn't sound, it's only bits until it hits the d/a converter.
I have several CDs that started life as a radio broadcast that I taped to cassette, and lately I have been moving my cassettes (and LPs) to CD, including ones from the radio. I'm also making copies of all my friends' CDs, and we all get copies. Take that, RIAA! Greedy bastards.
Some CDs that I've made from pre-recorded record store cassettes are so good that when I burn them to CD, FreeDB knows what records they are and names all the tracks for me!
So I doubt there will be enough degradation in the sound to matter much.
I'm wondering how they are going to copy protect any radio broadcast.
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How goddamned motherfucking long do I have to wait, asshats? Jesus H. Christ!
Good job the rest of the world already standardized on DAB for digital radio years before it was on the recording company's radar - it's now too late for them to cripple non-US radio.
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At least, I have never read about any analog sound recording technology that reaches the 96 dB signal/noise ratio at up to 22 kHz that is possible with CDs.
I know of two choices:
On the objective/subjective front, there are at least five axes I know of along which "quality" can be measured: distortion, dynamic range, signal-to-noise, wow and flutter, frequency response.
That said, how do you compare, objectively, a system with a 15Hz-27kHz +/-3dB frequency response curve but only 48dB or so S/N ratio to a system with 96dB S/N but a 20Hz-15kHz frequency response? Neither one is perfect, and the only way to rank the two against each other is subjectively.
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It doesn't matter much anymore what the RIAA or MPAA or radio stations or television stations or cable do anymore. Either, they make their content available easily, or they will be replaced by people and companies who do, as podcasts, live streams, and in other formats.
Patience. Let karma take its course. If present trends continue, they will find themselves locked for all eternity in an impenetrable vault with the most awful "music" you can imagine, and no one will care. I expect they will cackle with glee for almost twenty minutes when they pull the door closed and weld it shut--not that we will be able to hear them of course.
In general, the grief you can inflict on others is nothing compared to what they will do to themselves if you just stand back.
--MarkusQ
That said, I have two radio presets in my car because I listen to either the classic rock station in our town or the classic country station. Both stations are good enough that I don't feel the idea to wander around unless both of them are broadcasting local sports games, or I'm out of town. ^_^ Admittedly, I've run into the situation where I flip from one station to the other and hear the same song, but that's because there was a fair amount of cross-over back then. Honestly, which way do you categorize Elvis? Or Jimmy Buffet? Heck, the Bellamy Brothers?
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That right!
It the RIAA wishes to copy-protect the order of two or more words found in one of their protected works!
Also added to the list of word they with to have copy protect on are: "I", "dream", "of", "a", "Free", "future", "&", "World", "peace".
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There is something still good on the radio: NPR. Now, they make a great example since they podcast some of their most popular shows (Science Friday, Living on Earth) and in iTunes they are all over the 'Top list'.
I never thought I would spend every morning making a CD of podcasts to listen to when going to and from work, but I do, and I've never been happier and more awake on my daily commute. When the CD ends, I listen to NPR or put in a different CD.
As Cruisebox puts it: The Revolution is on!
"The more pity, that fools may not speak wisely what wise men do foolishly" - Touchstone,Shakespeare's "As You Like It"
I just think we should just give total media control to the RIAA and MPAA and be done with it.
I just sick of hearing about the greedy bastards.
Pretty soon they are going to go after the written word.
fsck off riaa and mpaa take that and copyright it where the sun doesn't shine.
Off topic, but I saw your sig and was certain it was a clever vim command. Imagine my disappointment...
--Robert
Radio is still nice for some things:
a) it works "on the go" much easier than a laptop+cell phone or downloading audio to a portable player
b) it is in real-time which is nice for news and sports, unlike downloading to a portable player
c) some things like NPR are still high quality on radio (though you can get it off the Web too)
Why can't we... the people.. boycott all new music?
Hit them where they live. Time to organize.
They won't last 3 months.
What! I won't be able to record those 30 minute commercial special anymore? Dang, that sucks, I loved those!
I thought the US Supreme court ruled on this already in the Sony VCR cases. They ruled that consumers could record their favorite television shows for viewing later. The term they used was time shifting. How is radio different? The RIAA is going to kill the artists. Like iTMS a new business model needs to be developed that will keep everyone happy.
...it's about TV! Think about it. They haven't had success getting the FCC to regulate HDTV, but if they can be successful in allowing the FCC to do basically the same thing in the radio arena (regulate the devices that receive the content rather than the transmission medium), it suddenly makes their argument about TV regulation MUCH easier. "Hey, you let the FCC regulate radio in exactly the same way. If you say the FCC have the authority in the radio realm, then by extension they have the right in all broadcast media". We need to fight this one just as hard as we fought the broadcast flag!
Digital Radio has already been rolled out in many areas. What are they going to do about the people who already have recievers? They paid a few hundred dollars for their equipment, and they might get a little peeved if they find they have to buy a new DRM-compliant reciever.
The RIAA is irrelevant to me. Haven't spent any money on anything from a major record label since the RIAA started attacking its customers. Never will again, until copy protection is dead, and the RIAA members each apologise publically for their abuses.
Music is an art form, and hence should be subject to the excessive charges. There is little difference in the quality of music produced by most heavily marketed 'bands' and the real bands you find in the local pub. Why should there be such a difference in cost for their music?
If the RIAA continues down its current path, it is sigining is own death warrant. I don't care. Does anyone else?
Hmmm why do I want to go out and buy a digital radio receiver exactly?
They'd want their money *before* you got to hear how crappy the music was.
Anyhow, can the FCC even *do* this? I could swear that they were unable to impose the broadcast flag because it overstepped their powers, so why would this be any different?
I mean, if they couldn't do it for TV, why would they be able to do this for radio?
Audio scrambling systems using acoustic couplers have been used for years on phones and with advanced technology it is only a matter of time before they create scrambled audio that requires an authorized headphone set that will allow it to be heard and for everyone else in the room, it will be garbage.
Various methods of obfuscation for visual media also exist mostly based on polarization but some use color as well. As technology advances and RFID tech comes into its own, you will eventually have public video boards like billboards whose protected content can't be seen without the appropriate active glasses and every TV at the store will go seemingly blank or static when protected content is shown.
It's coming and as long as the government rolls over for the *AA people, it is a done deal. And you thought the idiots at Kinkos refusing to make copies out of school books for your kid's schoolwork was moronic.
If my grammar and spelling are off, I am [distracted/tired/careless] (take your pick)
What a joke! There's nothing worth recording anyway
And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour Isaiah 3:5
The radio broadcasts can be copied by connecting the output of the radio to the microphone of a recording device. It is impossible to stop this from happening. Piracy will continue, resistance is futile. The MPAA and RIAA are idiots when it comes to copy protection.
For stating what I have always believed! The riaa is largely irrelevelent, or will be soon enough. They are suing themselves out of existence, and apparently don't understand the whole idea of treating your customers right.
The customers in this case are supposed to be the artists! They are doing such a HUGE disservice to their customers, i am surprised they have not had lawsuits brought against them by the artists.
Anyway, thank you for being a voice of reason in this ever-degenerating forum.
(stolen from DaBum) I am dyslexia of borg - your ass will be laminated.
... i listen *only* to radio. But only net-streams of course. Like dnbradio, bassdrive, hhuk, turntables24 or radiomax. If you would do ads there i would certanly hear them and if i'm interested look at your page.
;)
Here nobody watches tv anymore. Tv is really really dead in the circles of poeple i have to do with.
Another tip i could give you: Put ads on the google search results for the right words. These are teh *only* ads i like. They always match my interests very good, are not bothering with animated gif bling-bling or mad flash-sound-fullscreen and i see them often.
BTW: RIAA is not a company. Correct. It's the *whole fuckin' industry*! Thuis means it's *all* teh companies together. So exponentialize you hate...
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
People also used to say that 128kb/s CBR MP3s were "CD quality" too, but that didn't make it true.
Digital radio will not have as much information as CDs and can not be CD quality. You could argue that it sounds just as good as CDs, and it may be true, but to some people a cell phone call sounds perfectly fine.
Dayton, OH - Researchers at the Auditory Sensory Systems Heuristic Oratory Laboratory Engineering have announced that, per instructions from RIAA president, Adolph Q. Hitler, they have developed the means for Congress to stop all unauthorized soundwaves.
Mr. Hitler commented "It's high time we fucked over stupid consumers. Americans deserve only to be spoonfed Kelly Clarkeston and Metallica music. Our next move to ask that anyone with any trace of talent be immediately executed, and their guts used to create disposable CDs that melt if put in a Norwegian's computer."
Congressional leaders are said to be in full agreement after each received several million dollars in bribes and a bunch of Malibu hoes. President Bush stated from the bathroom of his Texas ranch "Adolph Q. Hitler and RIAA are great Americans. They even gave me a squeaky toy!"
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
The iBiquity standard is in use. Good luck getting everyone on-board to update transmitting software and hopefully make it compatible with receivers already in the marketplace.
Of course, if Congress mandates copy protection and you can't do it without making everyone pitch their radios, you've just killed in-band digital radio. Well, at least for the 5 people that actually went out and bought new digital in-band radios.
Whereas the music on the radio is utterly horrible and repetitive enough.
Whereas any kind of recording of radio broadcasted media utterly blows in relation to CD quality.
Whereas you(Congress) know shit about technology.
Proposal:
Please stop listening to the people making money and start listening to the people paying money, for once.
So what's to stop this from getting shot down in the courts as an FCC overstepping its bounds by mandating technologies, a la the HDTV broadcast flag fracas?
Who owns a show/program/whatever broadcast by a station that includes live commentary and maybe a guest as well as prerecorded RIAA content? Is the RIAA trying to claim ownership of everything that makes use of it's content?
And what are these "next-generation digital radio receiver/recorders" ? The only ones I've heard of are receivers for sattelite radio and I don't think the FCC has much control over that, isn't that why Howard Stern moved his show there?
Trying to make legal things illegal because they don't match your obsolite business model, yes that's the RIAA for you.
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The more you tighten your grip, RIAA, the more digital copies will slip through your fingers.
There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
- The Doctrine of First Sale - you bought it you can, sell it to some one else.
- Fair Use - there is some leeway even for items with restricted distribution, e.g. citing excerpts or sampling
- Freedom of Information - the US recently took a step away from this and towards the British secrecy-by-default model
- Common Carriage - nondiscriminatory access to any customer willing to pay the standard tariff
If these don't make any sense to you in an electronic context. Think what you can currently do with a paper book or land line telephone. Rules of commerce haven't changed and still apply to electronic resources and services just as they do to physical ones, even if there's a push by MPAA/RIAA/MS/DIsney to propagate a meme to the contrary.Beta is broken and the link to classic doesn't work. Stop wasting our time or there won't be anybody left here.
Sure. "The broadcast you have chosen is unavailable due to DRM restrictions, and your current receiver does not qualify for reception. Because of this, you cannot receive (static burst) 'Emergency hurricane instructional broadcast' (static burst)."
That will happen as the RIAA money-machine gets their way. They were grossly unprepared for the internet and electronic media. If it weren't for the vast amount of cash they've thieved from artists, they wouldn't have been able to BUY so many ears in political power. It's obvious they did this to get their dirty fingers on so many puppet strings.
Radio is nearly dead. MTV's life in in its sunset. The RIAA is still unable to see the future, and can only continue to flail blindly, trying to grasp at their slipping dominance while severly damaging the world about them.
The only reason is to lock the broadcast. Any other excuse is just that. A marketing excuse to take control.
And i grew up not trusting the government for these reasons, but they are amateurs compared to the 'media'.
Sad state we have reached, really.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
ya done took the wind outta my sails, dammit. i had a good thing goin'.
Rise up in the cafeteria and STAB them with your plastic forks!
If I had cancer or aids or something and were going to die, I would murder as many employees of the RIAA as possible before spending the rest of my short life on the run.
mic + mp3 player = digital FM radio recorder. Are microphones now illegal?
Well, not in the UK. Digital Audio Broadcast (aka digital radio) has much better quality than FM - and that's assuming you can get good FM reception, which is rare here.
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Radio is the one medium that isn't worth copying from. You always end up with songs that crossfade with the next, are cut off prematurely, and/or are yakked through by an inane DJ.
What I want is a button on my radio that forwards the current song to a "things to buy" list in iTunes.
This is a pretty ridiculous move in my opinion, and I hope the FCC can help the industry to not shoot themselves in the foot. Digital radio is not of a noticably higher quality than analog...except that the song title will march across some radio "screens". People are not ripping songs off Tivo'd radio any more than they might have in the 70s when standard tape recorders came out. The quality isn't worth the effort. People who would try to do this today are leeching these songs for free or paying a buck for them on itunes...both with significantly higher quality and no annoying DJ voiceovers. Martin Tibbitts
The fact that I have been able to record off the radio to audio tapes, (or at fear of dating myself, on to 8-track, or even reel to reel tapes) for 30+ years now, don't they forfet their copyright? One of the things that needs to be done to maintain your copyright is to enforce it. For 30+ years they haven't. If I had a registered logo, and permitted everyone to use it for 30+ years, I would forefit the right to my copyright. Hasn't the RIAA done just this? -Xyst