As far as engineers go, I'd rather they be thinking in (kilo)grams and Newtons, when they think of masses and forces (including weights) respectively...
In a country, that still measures pressure in pounds per square inch (pounds being pounds of force, of course — unbeknown to most), both gigi and giga are quite scientific and engineeringly sound.
Yes, that's the button, and I knew, how to press (and hold) it. However, I thought, the button is for the router appears dead (or when one forgets the password).
The router was not dead, it was working. The computer was able to talk to the device's internal web-server, and the device was able to ping anything on the internet. Just the NAT was not working, and I thought, something is misconfigured.
Either way, even if I was supposed to figure all this out on my own, there is no excuse for Linksys' personnel for taking so long to resolve the problem.
Humans have lived through such cataclysms before — witness entire cities found today under Mediterranean waters, for example, or the significant warming ups of Egypt since Cleopatra, when Egypt was the bread basket of the entire Roman Empire. Ecosystems have changed before.
People were displaced before as well — ancestors of Hungarians, for example, hail from as far as Volga.
We are already living through plants and animals dispersion — Australia comes to mind first with its rabbits, foxes, and giant frogs, but America has its share too. Bees and horses (mustangs) were brought in long ago, less sympathetic creatures — now.
None of it is pleasant, but none was anywhere near as devastating as even a moderate-scale war (like in Rwanda or Sudan) or even a gross mismanagement of a country like Zimbabwe...
And the benefits I listed in GP are still there — new land appearing, vast existing lands, which are too cold for comfort (Northern Siberia, Alaska, and Canada) becoming appealing and approachable by sea. The entire continent of Antarctica — the cradle of life — may become habitable again. A great deal compared with most of today's Africa, for example, which is already infested with diseases and deadly parasites (like tse-tse fly).
I would rather live in the current one without a SUV.
I would rather live without SUVs too. They are a nuisance on the road, even if they were hybrid and spent as much fuel as a motorcycle.
Had the misfortune to call Linksys recently too. An entire Saturday wasted going through the first-layer support morons, who were just reading the scripts from their screens. Some of them — reading so slowly, I could not help thinking, they are on drugs. Others — lying that the supervisor is "on a meeting"...
Finally, someone had brains enough to realize, the problem is above his level and transfered me to the second level support person, who quickly understood, what I was saying all along, and proceeded to tell me, how to cold-reset the wonder Linux-router, which promptly fixed the problem — 6 hours after the first phone call to Linksys...
Don't know, if any amount of legal prosecution can help against this sort of moronity.
The main legal beef of this prosecution, I guess, are the (alleged) financing/collection irregularities — a heavily legislated and regulated area. The populist "no service at all" rhethorics are just thrown in to help Mr. Guomo repeat Mr. Spitzer's feat later on...
At least, the former article mentions (in passing) the "harmful pollutants" — yes, these I accept as evil (if unrelated), but the warming itself?
What's wrong with the giant Northern coasts of Russia and Canada becoming reachable from the sea year-round? What's wrong with Antarctica becoming livable again?
Is anything set to become too hot — and if so, are we about to lose more square miles of land due to that, than we are about to gain in the previously dead-frozen areas I mentioned? Are Inuits' hunting habits really that important? The poor seals are being annually culled even now, they will certainly not perish. The polar bears will, no doubt, adjust very quickly too... What else is there?
Yeah, ask Alberto Gonzales about that [getting a story straight]...
Alberto Gonzales is being rotissered over fairly minor events taking place many months ago. That he does not have it all straight and clear in his memory is perfectly normal.
That the people alleging that the 2000 election was stolen can't agree on the details of the accusation in the course of 6 years is, on contrast, rather surprising.
Ok, a moderate-inensity flamewar and a number of "troll" moderations later, what we have is that no crime is being credibly alleged here. The most allegation there is, is by the reporter himself putting "Possible obstruction of justice" into the mouth of a (sympathetic) interviewee.
Lost emails, found emails — whatever... Lots of hot air, no substance.
Wake me up, when the Attorney General is found in Contempt of Congress, maybe, or something of similar significance happens.
No, trying to speed things up to try and influence the results of an election is interfering.
It may or not constitute interfering with the elections (not auotmatically a bad thing), but hastening an investigation is not automatically a bad thing either. Impeding is.
If your boss wants you to check in your barely functional code so he can get a bigger performance bonus, then yes, he's interfering.
No, he is just trying to speed me up. By your original word-play, he is "interfering"...
And, after all, he is my boss — if the code is commit-ready in his opinion, I should be committing it (possibly having expressed my reservations in the commit message and/or elsewhere).
While not stated definitively, my reading of the article is that the charges were not against a candidate in the election.
Interesting, that you do not know this definitively. But that's not too relevant. If the charges could affect the voters' opinion of the candidate, it would be most prudent to try to make them known before the elections.
As someone else said in this thread, the voters have "the right and the need to know", don't we?.. We do have the need, and any efforts to address it are welcome.
So, to recap, Attorney General is being pressured to resign by lawmakers about doing his job... The most important reason? Pressure by a lawmaker on a District Attorney about doing his job...
A senator pushing for charges to be brought is interfering in investigations.
Oh, so trying to speed something up means "interfering", I see. Nice word-play — I'll be claiming, my boss "interferes" with my work all the time from now on... No, dear, when one says "interfering" in this context, the implication is loud and clear — it means "impeding".
Having a corrupt official re-elected is bad. You seem to imply, a DA can not be bothered to speed-up an investigation — but I can't see anything wrong with it. And no one else would — unless they are already convinced, that any and all pressure on him was undue...
The most "improper" thing in Iglesias' opinion in the quoted excerpt is, apparently, the fact, the lawmaker hung up on him... "Possible obstruction of justice" comes from Pagast's own sensationalism — but even he inserts the "possible" in there...
If the attorneys were fired as a way to interfere in ongoing corruption investigations
The only accusations I read, were "firings for political reasons". D'oh!.. A political appointee fired for a political reason... Can you show a link detailing the accusation you bring up?
then I'm pretty sure it is illegal.
I'm not, actually... Doesn't look good — and that's the motivation for the political theater the Democrats are happy to engage in — but unlikely to be illegal. The explanation is simple: there are many crimes, unfortunately, and not all of them can be prosecuted. It is the Executive's prerogative to set the priorities and to decide, if there is a crime more important than corruption.
We may disagree, but neither of us are the President...
People have a right and a need to know if the justice system is being politicized to that extent.
Not sure about the right. The need is indisputable, but the only right is to elect someone else come next elections...
Finally -- I DO believe that these firings were improper.
Can you, then explain, what exactly was wrong about them? I mean, even if the entire Bush administration really did conspire to fire these prosecutors — aren't they political appointees, whose hiring and firing is at the Executive's discretion in the first place?
Clintons, I read, replaced 90 of those people in 1993...
But you did not say "illegal", you said "improper"... Are we spending the months agitating over whether something, the Executive (may) have done was unethical? Well, then I can rest at ease, now that accusations (and convictions) of illegalities are finally a thing of the past (century).
let's get some search warrants and go find them!
Uh-oh, no, for a search warrant there needs to be a reason to believe an actual crime has taken place — not merely an impropriety...
I have seen (at least) one of the videos — it was rather unconvincing... Even worse than Michael Moore's drivel.
When interviewing an official, the guy would make completely asinine accusations leading the interviewee to storm out. Their reaction is then taken to imply, the asinine accusation is correct.
That is how the 2000 election really was stolen...
Is it? I thought, it was stolen by the Supreme Court... Oh, well, getting a story straight is always a problem, is not it?
It seems to me that in this country all cars MUST make some kind of statement about you. "I drive a Hummer so I'm overcompensating." "I drive a soybean-electric-solar car that gets 200 mpg so that makes me a better person than you." Why not just get a reasonable vehicle for adequate transportation and put your statement on a bumber sticker?
And what's wrong with using one's car to make a statement? I mean, using hair is Ok, using clothing is Ok. Piercing — sure, my dear libertine? But cars — no?
Our country is only "unique" in this, because we have, on average, more disposable income for this sort of thing:-)
I, for one, being a Unix-person, insisted on manual-transmission cars for years. When the even more Unixish cars with Diesel engines were (re)introduced, I switched to those (until the above-mentioned uber-greens have persuaded my State to ban the diesels as too polluting)...
Bumper-sticker? Eeewww... Have you ever seen a car with only one of those? Me neither...
Was not it GM, that lost millions of dollars a few years ago in a lawsuit brought by people (and their kin), whose car was rear-ended on a toll plaza and exploded in flames?
GM's arguments, that making the car's fuel-tank more protected was too expensive for the modicum of additional safety that would've provided, were — for better or worth — ignored by the jury...
In other words, you may not deem a security hole to be large compared with the expense of pushing out another patch, but if somebody gets hurt, and their lawyer subpoenas your internal e-mails on the subject, you may well be out of business.
This comes as a second setback to the uber-greens in so many months. First their much-touted ethanol turns out to be not just more expensive, but also more polluting than gasoline. I mean, just they as seemed to have prevailed over the vast right-wing — err, scratch that for a second — vast oil-companies' conspiracy against ethanol, out come these nasty findings, and — to add a good insult to the injury — that awesome fella on the island near Florida comes out raging against using food (corn) to run cars. Not that the fella or his island are going to get hurt any more than they are already hurting, mind you, but a good friend of his, who can't be talking on these issues himself due to, uhm, a conflict of interest, certainly appreciates any sympathetic concern.
And now the, supposedly, ultra-efficient hybrid cars turn out to be along the lines of the decent non-hybrid gasoline and diesel ones in fuel economy, while lagging in internal space and ease of maintenance, and being thousands of dollars more expensive...
Not that I don't share their concerns for the environment, mind you, but many of these people's methods and other goals make it rather hard not to gloat.
Is not a copy of Windows required for WINE to function? Its been ages since I last tried this permanently-alpha software (I've been using 64-bit CPUs for the last two years), but from what I remember, WINE's own versions of the standard DLLs are not really usably for anything beyond Notepad and Minesweeper.
If this is still true, than Linux will be a slightly-more-expensive version of Windows — if you must run a Windows app or two for some reason, and Mr. Shuttleworth's real concerns are something else...
You certainly can change from one government to another - leave the country. It is quite easy.
I already did it once, and it was very difficult. My parents, for example, still have not quite adjusted. I suggest, you try it — weren't you promising to move to Canada in November 2004?
Going to a supermarket different from the one, that pissed me off, is much easier. Awarding a road-building contract to a company different from the one, that messed up the previous road, is easy to.
With government, you have countless rights to information and to petition
The whole point of this article is that getting the information via the FOIA is deemed too difficult. It is possible — the private contractor running the lab must comply — but "too difficult" for the article's authors. So much for the "countless rights to information".
Corporations are increasingly accountable to no one.
Revolution, dude, revolution! Don't trust anyone over 17, I tell you... Communes and cooperatives will be accountable to everyone.
Libertarians like to point out all the positives of privatization without going into the negatives.
Libertarians readily acknowledge, that a corporation can be just as (or even more) stupid as the government.
Our point is, changing from one corporation to another is always possible (and usually quite easy). Changing the government, however — and I don't mean electing a different President or lawmaker, but revamping the government bureaucracy — is quite impossible...
Presumably, these people were doing something at IBM, working for IBM's clients, etc. That something still needs to be done, even if IBM is no longer interested in doing it.
There may be some shake-up, but it is not like 100000 IT-professionals suddenly appeared from nowhere.
Tell you what, mate. The way you mistreat wallabies and pademelons is outright revolting — and it has a direct connection to what we are discussing here...
Assuming we accept the need to cull them occasionally to keep the numbers down, this can be done humanely. However, various tree-huggers made such a nuissance out of it, that the poor creatures are no longer instantly killed. Instead, they are often coralled (fenced) off into small areas, where they die slowly from thirst and hunger.
That's how devastating the ill-effects of the radicals can be...
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That be pound sterling — of UK or, more likely, some other country — not sure, what "240d" stood for.
No, the pound (lb) is mass. For force, you need pound-force (lbf)...
As far as engineers go, I'd rather they be thinking in (kilo)grams and Newtons, when they think of masses and forces (including weights) respectively...
In a country, that still measures pressure in pounds per square inch (pounds being pounds of force, of course — unbeknown to most), both gigi and giga are quite scientific and engineeringly sound.
Yes, that's the button, and I knew, how to press (and hold) it. However, I thought, the button is for the router appears dead (or when one forgets the password).
The router was not dead, it was working. The computer was able to talk to the device's internal web-server, and the device was able to ping anything on the internet. Just the NAT was not working, and I thought, something is misconfigured.
Either way, even if I was supposed to figure all this out on my own, there is no excuse for Linksys' personnel for taking so long to resolve the problem.
Humans have lived through such cataclysms before — witness entire cities found today under Mediterranean waters, for example, or the significant warming ups of Egypt since Cleopatra, when Egypt was the bread basket of the entire Roman Empire. Ecosystems have changed before.
People were displaced before as well — ancestors of Hungarians, for example, hail from as far as Volga.
We are already living through plants and animals dispersion — Australia comes to mind first with its rabbits, foxes, and giant frogs, but America has its share too. Bees and horses (mustangs) were brought in long ago, less sympathetic creatures — now.
None of it is pleasant, but none was anywhere near as devastating as even a moderate-scale war (like in Rwanda or Sudan) or even a gross mismanagement of a country like Zimbabwe...
And the benefits I listed in GP are still there — new land appearing, vast existing lands, which are too cold for comfort (Northern Siberia, Alaska, and Canada) becoming appealing and approachable by sea. The entire continent of Antarctica — the cradle of life — may become habitable again. A great deal compared with most of today's Africa, for example, which is already infested with diseases and deadly parasites (like tse-tse fly).
I would rather live without SUVs too. They are a nuisance on the road, even if they were hybrid and spent as much fuel as a motorcycle.
Had the misfortune to call Linksys recently too. An entire Saturday wasted going through the first-layer support morons, who were just reading the scripts from their screens. Some of them — reading so slowly, I could not help thinking, they are on drugs. Others — lying that the supervisor is "on a meeting"...
Finally, someone had brains enough to realize, the problem is above his level and transfered me to the second level support person, who quickly understood, what I was saying all along, and proceeded to tell me, how to cold-reset the wonder Linux-router, which promptly fixed the problem — 6 hours after the first phone call to Linksys...
Don't know, if any amount of legal prosecution can help against this sort of moronity.
The main legal beef of this prosecution, I guess, are the (alleged) financing/collection irregularities — a heavily legislated and regulated area. The populist "no service at all" rhethorics are just thrown in to help Mr. Guomo repeat Mr. Spitzer's feat later on...
Now, the articles about the effects of the warming assume, that the effects are evil. But — what exactly is evil about islands appearing from below centuries-old glaciers and the snow melting in the Antarctica, making the vast area habitable (as it was millions of years ago).
At least, the former article mentions (in passing) the "harmful pollutants" — yes, these I accept as evil (if unrelated), but the warming itself?
What's wrong with the giant Northern coasts of Russia and Canada becoming reachable from the sea year-round? What's wrong with Antarctica becoming livable again?
Is anything set to become too hot — and if so, are we about to lose more square miles of land due to that, than we are about to gain in the previously dead-frozen areas I mentioned? Are Inuits' hunting habits really that important? The poor seals are being annually culled even now, they will certainly not perish. The polar bears will, no doubt, adjust very quickly too... What else is there?
Alberto Gonzales is being rotissered over fairly minor events taking place many months ago. That he does not have it all straight and clear in his memory is perfectly normal.
That the people alleging that the 2000 election was stolen can't agree on the details of the accusation in the course of 6 years is, on contrast, rather surprising.
Ok, a moderate-inensity flamewar and a number of "troll" moderations later, what we have is that no crime is being credibly alleged here. The most allegation there is, is by the reporter himself putting "Possible obstruction of justice" into the mouth of a (sympathetic) interviewee.
Lost emails, found emails — whatever... Lots of hot air, no substance.
Wake me up, when the Attorney General is found in Contempt of Congress, maybe, or something of similar significance happens.
It may or not constitute interfering with the elections (not auotmatically a bad thing), but hastening an investigation is not automatically a bad thing either. Impeding is.
No, he is just trying to speed me up. By your original word-play, he is "interfering"...
And, after all, he is my boss — if the code is commit-ready in his opinion, I should be committing it (possibly having expressed my reservations in the commit message and/or elsewhere).
Interesting, that you do not know this definitively. But that's not too relevant. If the charges could affect the voters' opinion of the candidate, it would be most prudent to try to make them known before the elections.
As someone else said in this thread, the voters have "the right and the need to know", don't we?.. We do have the need, and any efforts to address it are welcome.
So, to recap, Attorney General is being pressured to resign by lawmakers about doing his job... The most important reason? Pressure by a lawmaker on a District Attorney about doing his job...
Oh, so trying to speed something up means "interfering", I see. Nice word-play — I'll be claiming, my boss "interferes" with my work all the time from now on... No, dear, when one says "interfering" in this context, the implication is loud and clear — it means "impeding".
Having a corrupt official re-elected is bad. You seem to imply, a DA can not be bothered to speed-up an investigation — but I can't see anything wrong with it. And no one else would — unless they are already convinced, that any and all pressure on him was undue...
The most "improper" thing in Iglesias' opinion in the quoted excerpt is, apparently, the fact, the lawmaker hung up on him... "Possible obstruction of justice" comes from Pagast's own sensationalism — but even he inserts the "possible" in there...
Hot theatrics with no substance.
I'll send you a coupon the next time I get one...
I asked for allegations of corruption investigations being suppressed by the Administration.
Instead, you are posting evidence of a corruption investigation being hastened (properly or improperly) by a lawmaker.
Two wrongs out of two... Care to try again?
The only accusations I read, were "firings for political reasons". D'oh!.. A political appointee fired for a political reason... Can you show a link detailing the accusation you bring up?
I'm not, actually... Doesn't look good — and that's the motivation for the political theater the Democrats are happy to engage in — but unlikely to be illegal. The explanation is simple: there are many crimes, unfortunately, and not all of them can be prosecuted. It is the Executive's prerogative to set the priorities and to decide, if there is a crime more important than corruption.
We may disagree, but neither of us are the President...
Not sure about the right. The need is indisputable, but the only right is to elect someone else come next elections...
Can you, then explain, what exactly was wrong about them? I mean, even if the entire Bush administration really did conspire to fire these prosecutors — aren't they political appointees, whose hiring and firing is at the Executive's discretion in the first place?
Clintons, I read, replaced 90 of those people in 1993...
But you did not say "illegal", you said "improper"... Are we spending the months agitating over whether something, the Executive (may) have done was unethical? Well, then I can rest at ease, now that accusations (and convictions) of illegalities are finally a thing of the past (century).
Uh-oh, no, for a search warrant there needs to be a reason to believe an actual crime has taken place — not merely an impropriety...
I have seen (at least) one of the videos — it was rather unconvincing... Even worse than Michael Moore's drivel.
When interviewing an official, the guy would make completely asinine accusations leading the interviewee to storm out. Their reaction is then taken to imply, the asinine accusation is correct.
Is it? I thought, it was stolen by the Supreme Court... Oh, well, getting a story straight is always a problem, is not it?
And what's wrong with using one's car to make a statement? I mean, using hair is Ok, using clothing is Ok. Piercing — sure, my dear libertine? But cars — no?
Our country is only "unique" in this, because we have, on average, more disposable income for this sort of thing :-)
I, for one, being a Unix-person, insisted on manual-transmission cars for years. When the even more Unixish cars with Diesel engines were (re)introduced, I switched to those (until the above-mentioned uber-greens have persuaded my State to ban the diesels as too polluting)...
Bumper-sticker? Eeewww... Have you ever seen a car with only one of those? Me neither...
Was not it GM, that lost millions of dollars a few years ago in a lawsuit brought by people (and their kin), whose car was rear-ended on a toll plaza and exploded in flames?
GM's arguments, that making the car's fuel-tank more protected was too expensive for the modicum of additional safety that would've provided, were — for better or worth — ignored by the jury...
In other words, you may not deem a security hole to be large compared with the expense of pushing out another patch, but if somebody gets hurt, and their lawyer subpoenas your internal e-mails on the subject, you may well be out of business.
This comes as a second setback to the uber-greens in so many months. First their much-touted ethanol turns out to be not just more expensive, but also more polluting than gasoline. I mean, just they as seemed to have prevailed over the vast right-wing — err, scratch that for a second — vast oil-companies' conspiracy against ethanol, out come these nasty findings, and — to add a good insult to the injury — that awesome fella on the island near Florida comes out raging against using food (corn) to run cars. Not that the fella or his island are going to get hurt any more than they are already hurting, mind you, but a good friend of his, who can't be talking on these issues himself due to, uhm, a conflict of interest, certainly appreciates any sympathetic concern.
And now the, supposedly, ultra-efficient hybrid cars turn out to be along the lines of the decent non-hybrid gasoline and diesel ones in fuel economy, while lagging in internal space and ease of maintenance, and being thousands of dollars more expensive...
Not that I don't share their concerns for the environment, mind you, but many of these people's methods and other goals make it rather hard not to gloat.
When one belongs to a minority (Asians, gays, whatever), claiming discrimination due to that is a common tactics.
Whether one is sincere claiming that, and whether the discrimination really does play a role (two nearly independent things), is another story...
Is not a copy of Windows required for WINE to function? Its been ages since I last tried this permanently-alpha software (I've been using 64-bit CPUs for the last two years), but from what I remember, WINE's own versions of the standard DLLs are not really usably for anything beyond Notepad and Minesweeper.
If this is still true, than Linux will be a slightly-more-expensive version of Windows — if you must run a Windows app or two for some reason, and Mr. Shuttleworth's real concerns are something else...
That's a nice opening, thank you very much.
I already did it once, and it was very difficult. My parents, for example, still have not quite adjusted. I suggest, you try it — weren't you promising to move to Canada in November 2004?
Going to a supermarket different from the one, that pissed me off, is much easier. Awarding a road-building contract to a company different from the one, that messed up the previous road, is easy to.
The whole point of this article is that getting the information via the FOIA is deemed too difficult. It is possible — the private contractor running the lab must comply — but "too difficult" for the article's authors. So much for the "countless rights to information".
Revolution, dude, revolution! Don't trust anyone over 17, I tell you... Communes and cooperatives will be accountable to everyone.
Libertarians readily acknowledge, that a corporation can be just as (or even more) stupid as the government.
Our point is, changing from one corporation to another is always possible (and usually quite easy). Changing the government, however — and I don't mean electing a different President or lawmaker, but revamping the government bureaucracy — is quite impossible...
Presumably, these people were doing something at IBM, working for IBM's clients, etc. That something still needs to be done, even if IBM is no longer interested in doing it.
There may be some shake-up, but it is not like 100000 IT-professionals suddenly appeared from nowhere.
Tell you what, mate. The way you mistreat wallabies and pademelons is outright revolting — and it has a direct connection to what we are discussing here...
Assuming we accept the need to cull them occasionally to keep the numbers down, this can be done humanely. However, various tree-huggers made such a nuissance out of it, that the poor creatures are no longer instantly killed. Instead, they are often coralled (fenced) off into small areas, where they die slowly from thirst and hunger.
That's how devastating the ill-effects of the radicals can be...