Exactly. I go in and out of the country 15-20 times a year, and have for the last 5 years. Never had any problems with customs. I bring my laptop with about 1/3 of the time and never been asked to show it, let alone whats on it.
If you're a nice guy, it shouldn't be any problems. If you make an idiot of yourself, get ready for the check.
I agree with pobox.com I've used them for afew years.. I forward it to my ISP from them, but their spam filters are amazing, and its reasonably priced.
Does anyone read the article? Oh yeah.. this is slashdot..
FTA: "Prosecutors say he altered and deleted files at a naval air station not long after the 11 September attacks in 2001, rendering critical systems inoperable.
However, Mr McKinnon has said his motives were harmless and innocent. He denies any attempts at sabotage"
So he logged into a naval air station and altered/deleted files.. He doesn't say he didn't do it.. he just says his motives were harmless and innocent.. He's far from harmless. He logged into government systems looking for UFO info, but causes damage along the way. He knew they were government systems.. I don't know of anyone that would think that would be OK, as long as he's just looking for info and nothing else..
They didn't sell a perpetual license, or at least it wasn't worded as such in the fine print. Much like Itunes, there, more than likely, is something in there covering them if they shut down the servers or if the DRM stops working for some reason. Itunes can shut your music off for almost any reason. I'm sure yahoo had similar wording in their agreement.
If you have a satellite and it transmits into a country, they do have some say in it. Or, if its a worldwide service (like GPS) it goes to the ITU, which sets alot of the radio band plans around the world and helps coordinate them between different countries.
Clear channel had a very small involvement in XM, and hasn't been involved now in years.. they sold their share ages ago..
XM offers "XL" channels with are "extreme language" so if you want censored lyrics, you can listen to some of the channels. For uncensored, there are the XL channels. XM also offers to block the XL channels on your radio, so it keeps mom and dad happy that JR can't hear those dirty words..
- Registry bloat. No other OS keeps app settings and preferences in what really amounts of a gigantic text file. Many apps do NOT remove registry entries correctly (or fully) when uninstalled. Inevitably this file will bloat, bloat, bloat, bloat until it takes forever just to get anything out of it. you've apparently never used AIX. It uses a registry-type file and is a pita to make any changes to it.
The difference here, though, is that they can look at a file folder, see paper, an realize that there is no bomb people are getting customs and TSA mixed up.. this has nothing to do with looking for explosives.. it has to do with looking for illegal imports.
Information is a good and a commodity. Someone could be carrying illegal goods on their laptop. See this guys porn. There are other illegal goods that could be on a laptop as well. Its the same as searching someones suitcase, just this suitcase can hold alot more..
This has nothing to do with the Patriot act.. they've always had this power at the border. Courts, for decades, if not over 100 years, have always ruled you have limited/almost no rights at the border. US citizen or not..
Customs has the right to look for anything that could be against US Law, as well as looking for imports to collect duty and taxes on. They always have. Its just now, people are carrying more with them and on their laptops than before.
Do the limits need to be updated? Maybe somewhat, but I'd still want customs to have the authority/ability to do their job.
I've ran into problems with Canadian customs, and they are getting much much worse. They aren't much better than other countries. They just have a cute accent when they talk;)
Unfortunately, you won't have that luxury. No matter what country you're going into, they can do this and you don't get a phone call. They'll sieze your laptop and you'll have no other options. If you smash it, you'll probably get arrested for interfering with an investigation, or the work of an officer. IF you throw it in the trash, they'll collect it and get what they want.
If the IP on your laptop is worth that much, you shouldn't be carrying it outside of the country on a laptop. I worked at a company that prohibited us from carrying certain information on our laptops to some middle eastern countries, as they were known for seizing/replicating hard drives from employees in certain industries.
If anything, you may face legal issues from your employer if you're taking that valuable of information out of the country.
This isn't the TSA.. its customs. A huge difference.. They can do this if you're crossing in a car, on a bus, on a horse, on foot, etc... They've had this "right" since the country was formed, and older countries have had it for much longer.
If you feel you want to become an unemployable martyr, by all means, do it.
With a criminal record, after being detained by customs, you'll have a tough time finding a decent job. Your life will be hard at the border crossing, but it will be for many years afterwards as well.
They need to start competing in that market.. I think the market is right now for a new entry into the corporate market, as well as the added consumer use is making this a good time to introduce them to a workforce.
Plus, with the iphone adding activesync support, they do realize some corporate use will help their bottom line.
as touched on in the article, Apple is overly secretive on new upcoming things. This is not what companies want. I work in an IT department and I've seen what both IBM and sun have coming in the next few years. Its called a non-disclosure. This helps my bosses shape future purchasing requirements, because they know whats coming ahead of time, versus a big flashy presentation at a conference and it being available in afew days.
Apple has to realize if they want to compete, they need to open up a bit to their larger buyers. Yes, the consumer market is great, but now that users are becoming apple savvy, you want them to have the opportunity to bring it to their workplace. Its a similar thing happening with Linux. My bosses were very anti Linux, but the latest batch of graduates have so much experience with it, its being rolled into our environment. You get people using it at home/school and they will want it at work.
Its amazing to me how people argue in other posts about how apple is playing fair by not opening up itunes to non-ipod devices, because there are other sources for music and devices, but when they offer something people want, but don't have an ipod, its now not fair, because they are a monopoly.
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Exactly. I go in and out of the country 15-20 times a year, and have for the last 5 years. Never had any problems with customs. I bring my laptop with about 1/3 of the time and never been asked to show it, let alone whats on it.
If you're a nice guy, it shouldn't be any problems. If you make an idiot of yourself, get ready for the check.
you have to be kidding.. CDE has had this for years, if not decades..
I agree with pobox.com I've used them for afew years.. I forward it to my ISP from them, but their spam filters are amazing, and its reasonably priced.
Does anyone read the article? Oh yeah.. this is slashdot..
FTA:
"Prosecutors say he altered and deleted files at a naval air station not long after the 11 September attacks in 2001, rendering critical systems inoperable.
However, Mr McKinnon has said his motives were harmless and innocent. He denies any attempts at sabotage"
So he logged into a naval air station and altered/deleted files.. He doesn't say he didn't do it.. he just says his motives were harmless and innocent.. He's far from harmless. He logged into government systems looking for UFO info, but causes damage along the way. He knew they were government systems.. I don't know of anyone that would think that would be OK, as long as he's just looking for info and nothing else..
So much of OS X is based on open source code. Apple is riding the open source communities development efforts, using your logic..
They didn't sell a perpetual license, or at least it wasn't worded as such in the fine print. Much like Itunes, there, more than likely, is something in there covering them if they shut down the servers or if the DRM stops working for some reason. Itunes can shut your music off for almost any reason. I'm sure yahoo had similar wording in their agreement.
If you have a satellite and it transmits into a country, they do have some say in it. Or, if its a worldwide service (like GPS) it goes to the ITU, which sets alot of the radio band plans around the world and helps coordinate them between different countries.
um... there is limited bandwidth. they have specific frequency ranges they can use, so there is a definite hard limit.
Clear channel had a very small involvement in XM, and hasn't been involved now in years.. they sold their share ages ago..
XM offers "XL" channels with are "extreme language" so if you want censored lyrics, you can listen to some of the channels. For uncensored, there are the XL channels. XM also offers to block the XL channels on your radio, so it keeps mom and dad happy that JR can't hear those dirty words..
- Registry bloat. No other OS keeps app settings and preferences in what really amounts of a gigantic text file. Many apps do NOT remove registry entries correctly (or fully) when uninstalled. Inevitably this file will bloat, bloat, bloat, bloat until it takes forever just to get anything out of it.
you've apparently never used AIX. It uses a registry-type file and is a pita to make any changes to it.
Umm.. considering the murder rate is up in DC since the gun ban, it seems like it isn't working at all..
check foxmarks you can tell it where to ftp your bookmarks to if you don't want to use their servers.
The difference here, though, is that they can look at a file folder, see paper, an realize that there is no bomb
people are getting customs and TSA mixed up.. this has nothing to do with looking for explosives.. it has to do with looking for illegal imports.
at the border, they can go through whatever they want. I've had my car ripped apart crossing into Canada before..
Information is a good and a commodity. Someone could be carrying illegal goods on their laptop. See this guys porn. There are other illegal goods that could be on a laptop as well. Its the same as searching someones suitcase, just this suitcase can hold alot more..
This has nothing to do with the Patriot act.. they've always had this power at the border. Courts, for decades, if not over 100 years, have always ruled you have limited/almost no rights at the border. US citizen or not..
Customs has the right to look for anything that could be against US Law, as well as looking for imports to collect duty and taxes on. They always have. Its just now, people are carrying more with them and on their laptops than before.
Do the limits need to be updated? Maybe somewhat, but I'd still want customs to have the authority/ability to do their job.
I've ran into problems with Canadian customs, and they are getting much much worse. They aren't much better than other countries. They just have a cute accent when they talk ;)
Unfortunately, you won't have that luxury. No matter what country you're going into, they can do this and you don't get a phone call. They'll sieze your laptop and you'll have no other options. If you smash it, you'll probably get arrested for interfering with an investigation, or the work of an officer. IF you throw it in the trash, they'll collect it and get what they want.
If the IP on your laptop is worth that much, you shouldn't be carrying it outside of the country on a laptop. I worked at a company that prohibited us from carrying certain information on our laptops to some middle eastern countries, as they were known for seizing/replicating hard drives from employees in certain industries.
If anything, you may face legal issues from your employer if you're taking that valuable of information out of the country.
US customs doesn't check you when you leave the country... Are you sure it wasn't the TSA in the early days after 9/11?
This isn't the TSA.. its customs. A huge difference.. They can do this if you're crossing in a car, on a bus, on a horse, on foot, etc... They've had this "right" since the country was formed, and older countries have had it for much longer.
They can't ban a citizen from entry, but they can detain you and make your life difficult for many years to come. They hold all the cards.
If you feel you want to become an unemployable martyr, by all means, do it.
With a criminal record, after being detained by customs, you'll have a tough time finding a decent job. Your life will be hard at the border crossing, but it will be for many years afterwards as well.
They need to start competing in that market.. I think the market is right now for a new entry into the corporate market, as well as the added consumer use is making this a good time to introduce them to a workforce.
Plus, with the iphone adding activesync support, they do realize some corporate use will help their bottom line.
as touched on in the article, Apple is overly secretive on new upcoming things. This is not what companies want. I work in an IT department and I've seen what both IBM and sun have coming in the next few years. Its called a non-disclosure. This helps my bosses shape future purchasing requirements, because they know whats coming ahead of time, versus a big flashy presentation at a conference and it being available in afew days.
Apple has to realize if they want to compete, they need to open up a bit to their larger buyers. Yes, the consumer market is great, but now that users are becoming apple savvy, you want them to have the opportunity to bring it to their workplace. Its a similar thing happening with Linux. My bosses were very anti Linux, but the latest batch of graduates have so much experience with it, its being rolled into our environment. You get people using it at home/school and they will want it at work.
Apple doesn't have a monopoly on MP3 players.
Its amazing to me how people argue in other posts about how apple is playing fair by not opening up itunes to non-ipod devices, because there are other sources for music and devices, but when they offer something people want, but don't have an ipod, its now not fair, because they are a monopoly.