It will never work already been invented you suck fuck off liberal arts is shit more STEM uppity fuck your mom my ass neckbearing is science there is no God Mythbusters said it won't work Carl Sagan wants a girlfriend cat meme fuckity fuck I am doing science the graphics suck I'm bored meh Americans deserve to starve no job because you suck it works for me Windows is better than Linux year of the desktop dick cock penis whoever invented this didn't think it through I am engineer because I won a game of Civilization once Neil Degrasse Tyson proved God doesn't exist with a racing form my ass your ass everything sucks I'm bored.
Apple and Google obviously want to separate themselves from the rest of us.
Unless of course they want to use our roads, electricity, capital markets, legal infrastructure, police, fire, building codes, and sell their products on our store shelves. Then they're big fans of telling us how much they want to be a part of things.
These companies are operating in a free market economy and are paying for these perks themselves.
They might be paying for the bus, but they sure as hell aren't paying for the roads, police, traffic signals, air quality and services they need to run them.
They are creating nothing of any real consequence. Everything made by Google, Apple, Facebook, Zynga, etc. is designed to be obsolete in months. They also have a habit of destroying working products and laying off workers for no reason at all.
I have a perfectly usable 2G iPod that is perfectly unusable because it's no longer supported and it doesn't talk to anything except the mothership that disowned it.
What was the last new (new as in it has no contemporary substitutes) COMMERCIAL software product (as in you pay real money to a company that employs people at grown-up wages to buy it) written in a real programming language and introduced with the same usefulness and value as say, Photoshop, Office, Quickbooks, Skype or Final Cut Pro?
There isn't one. Why?
Because all the developers are too busy shoveling pure crap into app stores as fast as they can to try and make rent.
Truth is the "high tech" industry in America was deliberately bludgeoned into a coma in 2000 and 2001. All advancement of personal computers stopped then.
Since no real efforts are being made to rebuild it, the industry will probably never recover. Any future high tech industry will happen somewhere other than America.
You are a moron or a troll. All data points to both.
And you're probably 19, working part-time at Taco Shack with a bong hanging out of your face and a level 90 of every class in World of Warcraft.
The four year old probably thinks that's perfectly just. Clearly they have different ideas of "justice".
Oh, I see. So if the four-year-old is wrong, then that means justice doesn't exist? When they get their multiplication problems wrong, does math wink out of existence too?
What if the four-year-old shares their cookie with the two-year-old? Are they wrong, right or just ignored? If the adults agree this is something that should be encouraged, are they also wrong? Do the adults exist? How about the cookie?
You haven't put forth anything that remotely resembles rational thought.
I correctly predicted you would say things that make you sounds like a complete asshole. Might not be "rational thought" according to you, but I was right.
You ramble incoherently and somehow think you are making logical statements.
Like I said, having conversations with fundamentalist atheists is utterly pointless. You say things like "you ramble incoherently" in much the same way that fundamentalist Christians respond with "and the Lord JEEEEEEESUHS said in Galatians Chapter Six that you are of the DEVIL!" It's entertaining of course, but it's nonsense.
Which is why nobody really takes fundamentalist atheists seriously. You have no capacity for critical thinking. You simply hand wave away whatever you don't agree with by claiming it's not in the Bible^H^H^H^H^H has no scientific proof.
Please prove anything scientific wrong.
Eugenics.
Logic is mathematics by the way.
I took three semesters of predicate calculus taught by a professor with two PhDs. I've also been programming computers since Gerald Ford was president. I think I've got math and logic covered there, Chuckles.
Now why don't you fluff up your neckbeard and run off to Facebook and scream at some fat southern housewives about skydaddies?
Somewhere in America, a father is grabbing the phone out of the hands of his teenage daughter and hurling it over the house into a flood control channel.
The entire neighborhood is giving him a standing ovation as he walks back into the house in slow motion.
They are working to increase human perception of justice in a manner that humans define.
Then justice could be (in fact, scientifically speaking, should be) subtly different from person to person. Why then, is there such universal agreement on what is just and what is not? Human beings agree on little else. Why is their perception of justice so common?
If you disagree that all human beings have a common understanding of justice, try giving a four year old a cookie and not giving their two year old sister one. See how that works out for you.
Justice does not exist outside of human minds;
You know, for a scientist, your thinking is rather fuzzy. First, you flatly stated justice doesn't exist at all. Now, it only exists in human minds. That would mean, according to fundamentalist atheist scientism followers, that it is an electro-chemical process, and therefore it can be scientifically measured.
So which is it, scientist?
Did you honestly think that citing poetry would discredit science?
I assert that science has boundaries beyond which science does not apply. In discussions of justice, for instance, where you have now stated it both exists and does not exist.
I further assert those who insist that all things must necessarily be subject to scientific observation and experimentation are fundamentalists no different than those who insist that all things must necessarily be subject to Biblical principles.
This seems to be distressing to you for the exact same reasons it is distressing to fundamentalist Christians: both of you demand acknowledgement that your way of thinking is the one true way and that all others are simply wrong. At least until they agree with you.
That is silly, nonsensical, weak-minded thinking. It flatly and universally asserts there is no truth to be found outside of your worldview, or to imply the contrapositive, until you declare something truth, it is either false or it doesn't exist: both being statements of such wanton towering arrogance that they don't even justify a response.
I did not wave aside anything you said.
If you insist, I can make you look like a hooting jackass by listing all of the instances where you flatly gainsaid each statement I wrote in this short thread.
All ideas are equal except the ones that I deem nonsense using my feelings.
Whereas someone like yourself simply dismisses wholesale all human experience as "non-existent until proven otherwise" unless it shows up on an oscilloscope.
Which means, naturally, that science doesn't exist either. Neither does the "human mind" as you put it.
If you do not use scientific and rational methods to define the world there is no difference between: god, souls, bigfoot and my pet unicorn scruffy beside what you "believe".
The implication being that anything that is not scientific is "irrational." Is etymology irrational? It's not science. How about diatonic music? Or linguistics? Or history? Are those irrational? Poetry? Dance? Logic? Drama? Politics? Love?
None of those are science. They all exist in the human mind. So they don't exist, right?
You incessantly repeat this term. I think you feel it's insulting in some way.
Settle down, Einstein. The term fundamentalist atheist is precisely descriptive.
Perhaps you feel the need because you consider yourself to be brilliant but lack the ability to put forth rational arguments of your beliefs leading you to lash out with veiled insults.
I have put forth exactingly rational arguments for my statements.
You see, one thing I have learned is that followers of scientism, atheists and fundamentalists have real problems when presented with the weaknesses in their rigid beliefs. They begin vascillating and making u
"The horse association violated anti-monopoly laws."
For anyone to state with a straight face that there are enforceable anti-monopoly laws in 2013 America needs to immediately start a career as a comedian.
Well, at least you're consistent. As a fundamentalist atheist you have no choice but to admit justice does not exist. The statement "justice does not exist" is plainly absurd, but at least it's consistent with your worldview.
Which is why you don't see any justologists and justicians fiddling with pipettes or working out mathematical just-quations.
I see a lot of judges, legislators, elected officials, law enforcement officers, lawyers and citizens who are working out a lot of laws in the hopes of establishing justice. But clearly they are all suffering from some kind of mental deficiency since, according to you, justice doesn't exist.
if you don't consider all people fundamentally equal you tend to create a great deal of strife and suffering.
Strife and suffering being things that, like justice, also don't exist because they are "emotional."
No they don't. They believe all scientific conclusions must be drawn by scientific methods (that's why we call it science).
Then science must have boundaries, which implies there are conclusions that can be drawn outside of science. If that is true, then your demands for hard evidence might be nothing more than silly.
You seem not to understand that and you do not paint yourself as overly rational with your absurd examples.
LIke all fundamentalist atheists, you assert that only you are intelligent and that only your conclusions are worthy of the "rigorous scientific absolutism" you demand.
I have an IQ of 147 and a university degree. But that doesn't stop you from waving aside everything I say in your self-assured, smug arrogant belief that you, and only you, have all the answers. Having a discussion with someone like you is utterly pointless, because you simply dismiss as "absurd nonsense" anything that does not fit squarely within the narrow, rigid boundaries of your worldview.
It is also the reason nobody takes fundamentalist atheists or Christians seriously.
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Whatever it takes to make 3D printing illegal.
You do realize it's about making 3D printing illegal, right? That Guangdong gravy train must go on.
My, how the world has changed.
A Microsoft lawyer is complaining about openness.
It will never work already been invented you suck fuck off liberal arts is shit more STEM uppity fuck your mom my ass neckbearing is science there is no God Mythbusters said it won't work Carl Sagan wants a girlfriend cat meme fuckity fuck I am doing science the graphics suck I'm bored meh Americans deserve to starve no job because you suck it works for me Windows is better than Linux year of the desktop dick cock penis whoever invented this didn't think it through I am engineer because I won a game of Civilization once Neil Degrasse Tyson proved God doesn't exist with a racing form my ass your ass everything sucks I'm bored.
Thread over.
"Hey, there's a big disaster happening. Meh."
"Dude, sent the paramedics to Canada. For the lulz."
"The graphics suck. Everything sucks."
By that logic, Wal-Mart's property taxes would be the 4th largest economy in the world.
Except they aren't, because Wal-Mart doesn't pay full price.
And neither does Apple.
I know how much they don't pay:
http://mashable.com/2013/05/21/apple-taxes-senat/
Wrong. Apple is far and away the biggest local taxpayer in the bay area.
HORSEshit.
http://mashable.com/2013/05/21/apple-taxes-senat/
The taxes paid by their employees are not their entire obligation.
lol My company publishes mobile apps. When you ASS-ume, well, you'll figure it out.
If you count Twitter, selfies and very short e-mails as "productivity" then I suppose iOS and Android are "productivity tools."
Can you name a textbook written on a phone?
Giant red herring emerges from San Francisco Bay and rampages through the city. Thousands flee. Film at 11.
Ah yes, another STEM asshole. There's one in every tech thread.
Apple and Google obviously want to separate themselves from the rest of us.
Unless of course they want to use our roads, electricity, capital markets, legal infrastructure, police, fire, building codes, and sell their products on our store shelves. Then they're big fans of telling us how much they want to be a part of things.
Until it comes to paying taxes...
These companies are operating in a free market economy and are paying for these perks themselves.
They might be paying for the bus, but they sure as hell aren't paying for the roads, police, traffic signals, air quality and services they need to run them.
Please, please PLEASE say they pay their taxes...
They are creating nothing of any real consequence. Everything made by Google, Apple, Facebook, Zynga, etc. is designed to be obsolete in months. They also have a habit of destroying working products and laying off workers for no reason at all.
I have a perfectly usable 2G iPod that is perfectly unusable because it's no longer supported and it doesn't talk to anything except the mothership that disowned it.
What was the last new (new as in it has no contemporary substitutes) COMMERCIAL software product (as in you pay real money to a company that employs people at grown-up wages to buy it) written in a real programming language and introduced with the same usefulness and value as say, Photoshop, Office, Quickbooks, Skype or Final Cut Pro?
There isn't one. Why?
Because all the developers are too busy shoveling pure crap into app stores as fast as they can to try and make rent.
Truth is the "high tech" industry in America was deliberately bludgeoned into a coma in 2000 and 2001. All advancement of personal computers stopped then.
Since no real efforts are being made to rebuild it, the industry will probably never recover. Any future high tech industry will happen somewhere other than America.
You are a moron or a troll. All data points to both.
And you're probably 19, working part-time at Taco Shack with a bong hanging out of your face and a level 90 of every class in World of Warcraft.
The four year old probably thinks that's perfectly just. Clearly they have different ideas of "justice".
Oh, I see. So if the four-year-old is wrong, then that means justice doesn't exist? When they get their multiplication problems wrong, does math wink out of existence too?
What if the four-year-old shares their cookie with the two-year-old? Are they wrong, right or just ignored? If the adults agree this is something that should be encouraged, are they also wrong? Do the adults exist? How about the cookie?
You haven't put forth anything that remotely resembles rational thought.
I correctly predicted you would say things that make you sounds like a complete asshole. Might not be "rational thought" according to you, but I was right.
You ramble incoherently and somehow think you are making logical statements.
Like I said, having conversations with fundamentalist atheists is utterly pointless. You say things like "you ramble incoherently" in much the same way that fundamentalist Christians respond with "and the Lord JEEEEEEESUHS said in Galatians Chapter Six that you are of the DEVIL!" It's entertaining of course, but it's nonsense.
Which is why nobody really takes fundamentalist atheists seriously. You have no capacity for critical thinking. You simply hand wave away whatever you don't agree with by claiming it's not in the Bible^H^H^H^H^H has no scientific proof.
Please prove anything scientific wrong.
Eugenics.
Logic is mathematics by the way.
I took three semesters of predicate calculus taught by a professor with two PhDs. I've also been programming computers since Gerald Ford was president. I think I've got math and logic covered there, Chuckles.
Now why don't you fluff up your neckbeard and run off to Facebook and scream at some fat southern housewives about skydaddies?
Reddit is a motherfucking shitpond.
eagerly snapping up tablets and smartphones
Marketing phrase detected. Credibility instantly and permanently drops to zero.
Have a nice day.
Somewhere in America, a father is grabbing the phone out of the hands of his teenage daughter and hurling it over the house into a flood control channel.
The entire neighborhood is giving him a standing ovation as he walks back into the house in slow motion.
So the practical translation of your statement is
I AM SCIENTIST AND DISPRUVD SHAKESPER! GIRLS R ICKY
That about cover it?
Maybe modern audiences are fucking stupid?
Isn't this copyright infringement? Creating a derivative work is an exclusive right belonging to a copyright owner.
They are working to increase human perception of justice in a manner that humans define.
Then justice could be (in fact, scientifically speaking, should be) subtly different from person to person. Why then, is there such universal agreement on what is just and what is not? Human beings agree on little else. Why is their perception of justice so common?
If you disagree that all human beings have a common understanding of justice, try giving a four year old a cookie and not giving their two year old sister one. See how that works out for you.
Justice does not exist outside of human minds;
You know, for a scientist, your thinking is rather fuzzy. First, you flatly stated justice doesn't exist at all. Now, it only exists in human minds. That would mean, according to fundamentalist atheist scientism followers, that it is an electro-chemical process, and therefore it can be scientifically measured.
So which is it, scientist?
Did you honestly think that citing poetry would discredit science?
I assert that science has boundaries beyond which science does not apply. In discussions of justice, for instance, where you have now stated it both exists and does not exist.
I further assert those who insist that all things must necessarily be subject to scientific observation and experimentation are fundamentalists no different than those who insist that all things must necessarily be subject to Biblical principles.
This seems to be distressing to you for the exact same reasons it is distressing to fundamentalist Christians: both of you demand acknowledgement that your way of thinking is the one true way and that all others are simply wrong. At least until they agree with you.
That is silly, nonsensical, weak-minded thinking. It flatly and universally asserts there is no truth to be found outside of your worldview, or to imply the contrapositive, until you declare something truth, it is either false or it doesn't exist: both being statements of such wanton towering arrogance that they don't even justify a response.
I did not wave aside anything you said.
If you insist, I can make you look like a hooting jackass by listing all of the instances where you flatly gainsaid each statement I wrote in this short thread.
All ideas are equal except the ones that I deem nonsense using my feelings.
Whereas someone like yourself simply dismisses wholesale all human experience as "non-existent until proven otherwise" unless it shows up on an oscilloscope.
Which means, naturally, that science doesn't exist either. Neither does the "human mind" as you put it.
If you do not use scientific and rational methods to define the world there is no difference between: god, souls, bigfoot and my pet unicorn scruffy beside what you "believe".
The implication being that anything that is not scientific is "irrational." Is etymology irrational? It's not science. How about diatonic music? Or linguistics? Or history? Are those irrational? Poetry? Dance? Logic? Drama? Politics? Love?
None of those are science. They all exist in the human mind. So they don't exist, right?
You incessantly repeat this term. I think you feel it's insulting in some way.
Settle down, Einstein. The term fundamentalist atheist is precisely descriptive.
Perhaps you feel the need because you consider yourself to be brilliant but lack the ability to put forth rational arguments of your beliefs leading you to lash out with veiled insults.
I have put forth exactingly rational arguments for my statements.
You see, one thing I have learned is that followers of scientism, atheists and fundamentalists have real problems when presented with the weaknesses in their rigid beliefs. They begin vascillating and making u
"The horse association violated anti-monopoly laws."
For anyone to state with a straight face that there are enforceable anti-monopoly laws in 2013 America needs to immediately start a career as a comedian.
It doesn't.
Well, at least you're consistent. As a fundamentalist atheist you have no choice but to admit justice does not exist. The statement "justice does not exist" is plainly absurd, but at least it's consistent with your worldview.
Which is why you don't see any justologists and justicians fiddling with pipettes or working out mathematical just-quations.
I see a lot of judges, legislators, elected officials, law enforcement officers, lawyers and citizens who are working out a lot of laws in the hopes of establishing justice. But clearly they are all suffering from some kind of mental deficiency since, according to you, justice doesn't exist.
if you don't consider all people fundamentally equal you tend to create a great deal of strife and suffering.
Strife and suffering being things that, like justice, also don't exist because they are "emotional."
No they don't. They believe all scientific conclusions must be drawn by scientific methods (that's why we call it science).
Then science must have boundaries, which implies there are conclusions that can be drawn outside of science. If that is true, then your demands for hard evidence might be nothing more than silly.
You seem not to understand that and you do not paint yourself as overly rational with your absurd examples.
LIke all fundamentalist atheists, you assert that only you are intelligent and that only your conclusions are worthy of the "rigorous scientific absolutism" you demand.
I have an IQ of 147 and a university degree. But that doesn't stop you from waving aside everything I say in your self-assured, smug arrogant belief that you, and only you, have all the answers. Having a discussion with someone like you is utterly pointless, because you simply dismiss as "absurd nonsense" anything that does not fit squarely within the narrow, rigid boundaries of your worldview.
It is also the reason nobody takes fundamentalist atheists or Christians seriously.