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Bill Gates Seeking Patent To Make Shakespeare Less Boring

theodp writes "GeekWire reports that Bill Gates and Nathan Myhrvold are seeking a patent on making textbooks less boring by using a cellphone or other device to scan text on a page, parse its meaning, and automatically create suitable accompanying video or pictures to keep students engaged. From the patent application for Autogenerating Video From Text: 'A student is assigned a reading assignment. To make the assignment more interesting, the student may use his or her mobile phone to take a picture of a page of the textbook. The systems and methods described herein may then generate a synthesized image sequence of the action occurring in the text. Thus, rather than simply reading names and dates, the student may see soldiers running across a battlefield.' Furthermore, the patent explains, the experience may be tailored to a user's preferences: 'For example, in a video clip about a Shakespearean play, the preference data may be used to insert family members into the video clip instead of the typical characters.'"

338 comments

  1. Prior Art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'm sure the 'reduced shakespeare company' might have something to say about making the bard more interesting.
    If the USPTO grant patents on this then I for one hope that a huge hole opens up and swallows the entire USA. Just adding 'by a computer' or 'in a network' really does not seem very original and non obvious.

    1. Re:Prior Art? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sure the 'reduced shakespeare company' might have something to say about making the bard more interesting.

      Shakespeare is never boring. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs either an English comprehension course or medication for attention deficit disorder.

    2. Re:Prior Art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whether Shakespeare is boring or not is subjective. I think it's absolutely boring.

    3. Re:Prior Art? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      Shakespeare is mono-cultural, reason enough for it to be discarded upon the ashcan of history along with all the other bullshit written by whites for whites. Let's let some air into our universities and have undergraduates read works by diverse authors instead of the same old crap.

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    4. Re:Prior Art? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      I'm all for a wider diversity of readings, but you need to lay off the crack-pipe. Virtually all of those "diverse authors" are also mono-cultural.

    5. Re:Prior Art? by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2

      Shakespeare is mono-cultural, reason enough for it to be discarded upon the ashcan of history

      Right. Which is why Shakespeare's work has been successfully performed in Hindi, Mandarin and Arabic.

      You are perfectly entitled to not appreciate Shakespeare, but you are not entitled to take his work away from those who do.

    6. Re:Prior Art? by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      We can definitely fix it with a diversity computer. People can also get wealthier destroying anglo-saxon culture. It's all the rage.

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    7. Re:Prior Art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shakespeare is a dinosaur unless one is a history buff. Ancient literature such as this can have value to illuminate historical periods for those who study them in ways that formal histories can not. It can also be of value for understanding the evolution of human writing and story telling from more primitive forms to more sophisticated.

      If one just wants an educational or entertaining read, there are far better and more relevant writers working today and from the 20th Century.

    8. Re: Prior Art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. I'm pretty sure I've never seen such blinkered thinking! Even on /.

      Shakespeare wrote stories of the human condition, of greed and malice, love and folly, honor and revenge.

      To relegate his work to the dustbin of history is to deny humanity.

      Yes, his language can seem opaque but like all things of value, reading Shakespeare requires things our current generation seems to lack: intellectual curiosity, commitment to a goal, and the willingness to work for understanding.

    9. Re:Prior Art? by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      Shakespeare is never boring. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs either an English comprehension course or medication for attention deficit disorder.

      Yes, I knew something was off when I saw the title. Actually he has an invention to make Slashdot less boring.

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    10. Re: Prior Art? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... our current generation seems to lack: intellectual curiosity, commitment to a goal, and the willingness to work for understanding

      That's a great example of blinkered thinking in itself. In reality, "our current generation" is not particularly different from any other. Human beings are still human, with all the variability that implies. The means by which this is expressed have changed, as a result of changing technology, but the fundamental characteristics are no different.

      Some human beings are good people, others are sociopaths; some are lazy, some are motivated; some are tolerant, others are not; and for each of these characteristics we have the full gamut in between the extremes, and this is as true today as it ever has been.

      To relegate his work to the dustbin of history is to deny humanity.

      Perhaps if you actually bothered to study and care about history with any real depth, you might not think of its contents as a dustbin. You might also better understand how little the essence of being human changes from one generation to the next.

      For that matter, many of those who love history are certainly not denying humanity. If anything, the study of history celebrates humanity. This doesn't necessarily mean that everybody has to study it, or that the lessons that can be learned from the study of history can only or even best be learned through that study.

      Further, it is far from clear that study of any particular period of history is a required tool, or even particularly efficient one, for teaching the lessons that history can teach. Thus we need not conclude that the study of Shakespeare, which is essentially the study of one period in history, is only way, or even the best way to teach certain lessons.

      Different students will benefit from different approaches to teaching: this is something that all good teachers understand, at least at an intuitive level. For some students, they will far more efficiently learn about the human condition from reading modern writers (and some of those will be difficult enough to read in their own way). For that matter, any reading at all will not be the best approach for some students.

      The supposition that we have to use, or should use, Shakespeare as a teaching tool merely reflects uncritical acceptance of somebody else's muddled thinking. When there are many roads to the same destination, respect for the human condition requires that we give people reasonable freedom to choose their own paths.

  2. Jesus, Bill use something other than Bing already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Just because bing can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't already exist. Where did my other post go? A marketdroid was showing me this technology which they are already selling using his cellphone-telephone in a San Diego airport bar a couple of months ago.

  3. Headline by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

    Another misleading headline. Has nothing to do with Shakespeare. What other websites have the same tech content as Slashdot?

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    1. Re:Headline by ratbag · · Score: 0

      Ok, we get it, you don't like Slashdot.

      From the patent:

      For example, upon analysis of the text, it may be determined that the origin of the text is from a Shakespearean play. A setting or location of 16.sup.th Century England may then be determined by the context analysis module 316

      amongst other references to the Bard.

    2. Re:Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.arstechnica.com ./ has become so full of shit and its all thanks to its amazing editors. Job well done

    3. Re:Headline by Mikkeles · · Score: 4, Informative

      Besides, this patent just describes storyboarding, but on a computer!.

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    4. Re:Headline by poetmatt · · Score: 1

      I don't even understand how someone thinks a patent is going to improve anything? That's not even what patents are for.

    5. Re:Headline by arth1 · · Score: 2

      I don't even understand how someone thinks a patent is going to improve anything? That's not even what patents are for.

      Correct. The purpose of patents is to make some people money by preventing others from making money on the same thing.
      It works from the assumption that this stimulates invention as the patent holder will use the extra income to finance his next invention.

    6. Re:Headline by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The computer is supposed to do the storyboarding. It hasn't been automated before. What's missing is the WHOLE PROGRAM. The patent office needs to start demanding working code for software patents. If you don't have working code, you don't have an invention, just an idea that you might eventually some day years from now turn into an invention -- if it's even an invention.

      These devices will be great for a time in 20 years when kids don't bother to learn to read and can't even listen to a story but must have everything shown to them in video clips. In short, it's for the brave new world of subhumans.

    7. Re:Headline by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Utterly wrong. It provides the patent creator with the possibility of income instead of rip-off. It's not *extra* income, it's income.

    8. Re:Headline by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, the purpose of patents is to stimulate invention, or more specifically, to "promote the progress." The legal monopoly is the means by which the patent system tries to reach this goal. And no, there's no specific intention of a next invention, although that may be a benefit in some cases. If that were the case, we could just much more efficiently hand out research grants to promising researchers with promising ideas. We can do that already.

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    9. Re:Headline by tinkerton · · Score: 2

      And Shakespeare isn't boring really. People just think it probably would be.

    10. Re:Headline by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      This is what bothers me -- the patent lists "algorithms" and "heuristics", those magical things.

      Except the software **is** the dancing bear of invention here, not the goddamn cell phone camera with wireless connection.

      They might as well replace "heuristic" with "human sits there and quickly assembles a scene."

      And when someone invents a much better algorithm, are they screwed?

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    11. Re:Headline by Alumoi · · Score: 1

      You mean when US kids won't be able to read, right?

    12. Re:Headline by msobkow · · Score: 1

      If this were even vaguely technically feasible, we would have great automatic language translation tools.

      After all, if a computer could convert formats from textual descriptions to actual video footage, it would be trivial to do language conversion.

      It's not.

      This "patent" should be rejected because it's not been done, isn't being done, and probably won't be feasible for 20+ years.

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    13. Re:Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Shakespeare isn't boring really. People just think it probably would be.

      To a modern audience Shakespeare is boing as hell.

      The problem is not so much the subject-matter however as the now obsolete language and idioms. It takes a disproportionate amount of education to bring someone raised in the modern era up to speed to the point that they can read/watch Shakespeare and actually get what is being said.

      That's why modern adaptations of Shakespeare are popular. They take the content and translate it to more accessible vernacular so that people can more easily enjoy it without first needing to become a Shakespearian scholar.

    14. Re:Headline by The+Cat · · Score: 1

      Maybe modern audiences are fucking stupid?

    15. Re:Headline by udippel · · Score: 1

      Even here I cannot agree fully. Showing working code is one step, but one too few.
      The European Patent Convention (I am too lazy to look up the American Act) clearly states that 'presentation of information' is not patentable. And I don't care if this is in the American act or not; I cannot consider presentation of information - with or without working code - as patentable. Sure, that is just my opinion (and maybe the europeans), but I will have to be pressed hard to change this point of view.
      I do agree, that for eventually patentable stuff, a working example ought to be required. And not only for software. Think about a new mechanism for sending people to the moon, based on quantum physics. Then one could ask for a patent for sending someone up, and yet have no working prototype yet. Done, idea patented, and if it ever works in the lifetime of the patent, everyone actually doing it is screwed. And then they say, patents bolster inventiveness!

      This is getting silly, silly, silly.

    16. Re:Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      arstechnica censors comments, unlike Slashdot. Screw that.

    17. Re:Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It provides the patent holder a monopoly enforced by government thugs that violates people's property rights.

    18. Re:Headline by udippel · · Score: 1

      You are correct, no doubt. That is what the patent system was meant for, initially, at its creation; and especially so the small inventor, who could otherwise never recover any costs if bigger industries 'stole' his / her idea.
      Alas, those days are gone, long gone, Were you a regular Slashdot reader, you would have noticed by now, I'd guess.

      Or, if I followed quite another string of arguments, I suggest you find out (Dr. Google is your friend) how much your patent creator would have to invest, to fork out, to lay on the table, from his own pocket, before the court procedures would be through [how many years] for him to be able to recover the costs of only the proceedings.
      (I can give you a hint: utterly impossible for the small, eventually even the medium-size inventor - meaning the system is broken!)

    19. Re:Headline by udippel · · Score: 1

      This is debatable. Though it lays open a major shortcoming in our days (as far as I can make out, at least): Everything seems to be run down to its business value; to its outer perspective. Be it a movie or a play. Almost all movies from the last 2 generations focus on realistic scenes, shootings, blood. Immersion. To me, movie is an art. Of images, camera shots and moves, dialogue, etc. that conveys moods, feelings, dreams, personal developments (very simplistic here).
      Okay, back to Shakespeare. What I like with Shakespeare is exactly the language, that is hugely powerful, etc. No, I absolutely do not desire any Hamlet as a Danish prince, who finds out who murdered the king, and takes ages to decide if he should seriously go for a revenge; and when he does, in the end almost everyone is dead. That would be a very boring Hamlet. At least to me.

    20. Re:Headline by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      What do you mean, "when"? This is a reality in Detroit and has been for quite some time.

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    21. Re:Headline by BrokenHalo · · Score: 1

      To a modern audience Shakespeare is boing[sic] as hell.

      I don't know how this pans out in the US, but here in Australia, good Shakespeare productions still fill theatres. That sort of implies that his work sort of has some relevance to modern audiences.

      No-one reads Shakespeare for his plot-lines (many of his comedies in particular have a similar plot), but for the richness, power and depth of his expression, which goes beyond notions of what constitutes literacy - as is borne out by the fact that his original audiences were not universally literate.

      I do sort of wonder what Shakespeare might have made of vampires and zombie apocalypses, though... ;-)

    22. Re:Headline by Forever+Wondering · · Score: 1

      Agreed. However, Wind River Systems used to do software consulting [VxWorks was a by product of that]. They were doing an automated storyboarding project for Francis Ford Coppola back in the 1980's.

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    23. Re:Headline by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      No, it should be rejected because it HASN'T been done. It's not technology. It's an idea for a program. You should not be able to just describe a feature list and patent it. Imagine if this were done with drugs. I'm patenting a drug that will cure cancer. Here's how it works: You take a green pill twice a day for one week and at the end of six weeks you will be cancer-free. The drug works by programming your immune cells to attack cancer cells.

    24. Re: Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry to post without registering, i am using a smartphone and so I rather skip that step for now...
      I do have to say that you pointed the most interesting fact: we are turning our society into a bunch of ignorants. Reading is considered boring, studying is being substituted with online games, being with real people now means Skype conference...
      What are we becoming?

    25. Re:Headline by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      In this case it would allow the patent holder to claim someone else's work as their own when someone actually creates it in their garage.

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  4. A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Bob_Who · · Score: 1

    Has it worked on any of his textbooks yet, or just on iambic pentameter?

    1. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by reve_etrange · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not sure what "it" is since the patent itself doesn't describe an algorithm. It's just a wish list of potential features.

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    2. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not sure what "it" is since the patent itself doesn't describe an algorithm. It's just a wish list of potential features.

      Isn't that how *all* software patents are, nowadays? A lot of hand-waving and absolutely zero meat.

      Imagine if all patents were like SW patents. You could patent the flying car, and all you need to write is a description of what your flying car will/should be able to do. And anyone who actually builds such a flying car will be hit over the head with your patent! That's totally Apple's style of doing business.

    3. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. For getting kids interested in boring science, the scientists make thinks to pop, bang or produce a lot of smoke, or in the case of star trek, fire a phasor at it.

      Book review time: What did you think of this book?
      Reviewer: My phasor made it explode, and it lightly smoked a bit, rating is boring.

      Patenting tricorders, with round corners, with a built in phasor that lightly scorches bums/uniforms is on the way.

    4. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by jythie · · Score: 2, Funny

      'Wish' is right. This might make a nice bit of speculative fiction, maybe the core of some future story about a dystopian eduction system where the heroin discovers that evil people have altered the universal animation program to deliver subconscious ads for soyelnt green into the minds of impressionable youth causing an increase in demand for human flesh resulting in a sharp population decline allowing the villains to buy up all the twinky factories before a radioactive comet hits the earth (which they have been suppressing) allowing only them to live. Add a cute side kick and a puppy and we have next summer's blockbuster movie... all thanks to Bill Gates and his wonderful imagination.

    5. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If all patents were like software patents, the perpetuum mobile would have been successfully patented a long, long time ago.

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    6. Re: A patent on making textbooks less boring? by dwywit · · Score: 1

      Well done, sir. I grant you the win in this case, but not when the mods judge our race.

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    7. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by arth1 · · Score: 3, Funny

      If all patents were like software patents, the perpetuum mobile would have been successfully patented a long, long time ago.

      Like US 6,362,718 and US 6,867,514, you mean?

    8. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that more Myrhvold's game?

      Apple seems to patent stuff it uses (the bounce-back was a silly patent but at least they implemented it).

      Are there many examples of Apple claiming wish-list patents like the one in TFA?

    9. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      If all patents were like software patents, there wouldn't be any computers to run the software on.

    10. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      'Wish' is right. This might make a nice bit of speculative fiction, maybe the core of some future story about a dystopian eduction system where the heroin discovers that evil people have altered the universal animation program....

      I knew there were drugs involved.

    11. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, that makes sense. We can patent algorithms, business models, and now summer blockbuster ideas!

    12. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      A lot of hand-waving and absolutely zero meat

      Software responding to phrase - disable hard core porn and enable romantic comedy function.

    13. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the core of some future story about a dystopian eduction system where the heroin discovers that evil people have altered the universal animation program

      Funniest misspelling I've seen all day. I've heard of evil people discovering heroin, but never heard of heroin discovering evil people.

    14. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

      That's totally Apple's style of doing business.

      You were good up until the Apple hate bubbled over. Apple does not sue for things that they thought up but never implemented. Apple sues over simple things that they did implement. Gotta keep your frivolous law suits straight.

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    15. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what "it" is since the patent itself doesn't describe an algorithm. It's just a wish list of potential features.

      Yes, it does - see figures 4-8 and the accompanying description.

    16. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by cellocgw · · Score: 1

      Software responding to phrase - disable hard core porn and enable romantic comedy function.

      Came to see if Rule34 was invoked in thread. Was not disappointed.

      Meanwhile, just imagine how well this new device would work on /. threads!

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    17. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Zordak · · Score: 1

      The +5, Funny was well-deserved. But lest anybody get too worked up, those actually claim to work on exhaustable energy stored in permanent magnets (I'm not a material scientist, so I don't know if that's a real thing, but they don't pretend to be perpetual motion). In fact, the USPTO has specific regulations for rejecting perpetual motion machines. If you want to get a patent on one, you have to submit a working model. I am very grateful for this regulation, because it has been a handy way to show folks the door a couple of times. "I'm sorry. I can't file this for you. It's a perpetual motion machine. The USPTO will only grant it after you have a working model. So please come back after you've got that prototype built." (They will argue with you for hours about why it will work if you let them.)

      On the other hand, I did successfully craft the argument that got this gem issued. It's not perpetual motion, but it does involve some rather "non-traditional" scientific theories.

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    18. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Zordak · · Score: 1

      It's sentient heroin. That's what makes it summer blockbuster fare.

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    19. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Zordak · · Score: 1

      Ah, that makes sense. We can patent algorithms, business models, and now summer blockbuster ideas!

      You joke, but this clown is actually trying to do it. (If you want to see the stunning storyline that is so brilliant it deserves a patent, look at the claim listed here.)

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    20. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by jythie · · Score: 1

      Heh. Amusing what dropping a silent e can do ^_^

    21. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by udippel · · Score: 1

      Look, matey, had you bothered to read the parent, and bothered to look up the two patents cited, you would have noted, that the USPTO fails miserably at following its own directives.
      Both patents clearly disclose a very old and very wrong assumption; that by rotating a magnet in an electric filed and switching the polarity, this magnet starts to spin from the rotated magnet field.

      You are right w.r.t. the 'gem' on water treatment. I can only ask: how would one refute this application? Looking at the claims, it says nothing supernatural; that is only in the description. And now? Does a system of vortices like those described exist or not? If not, it is patentable. Even if - in the end - it is used for something quite different; and successfully so.

    22. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      This patent is almost entirely composed of statements such as "The context analysis module 316 is configured to interpret the received text," which means nothing. It's just a statement of a wish for such a module, with no disclosure of how such a module might, in fact, work.

      You are mistaken about the purpose of a patent, which is disclose how an invention functions, not to reserve types of functionality regardless of implementation.

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    23. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      This patent is almost entirely composed of statements such as "The context analysis module 316 is configured to interpret the received text," which means nothing. It's just a statement of a wish for such a module, with no disclosure of how such a module might, in fact, work.

      Here's the full quote:

      The context analysis module 316 is configured to receive text in a machine-readable format from the image to text module 314. The context analysis module 316 is configured to interpret the received text. In one embodiment, the interpretation of the text includes analyzing the text for contextual cues. The contextual cues may relate to a setting, a character, a pose or action, and other defined objects as identified by the text. For example, individual words may be identified by the context analysis module 316 that relate to a specific location or setting (e.g., 16.sup.th Century England, Wisconsin, a house, Main Street, etc.), a specific person (e.g., Shakespeare, Einstein, mother, father, etc.), a specific action (e.g., running, talking, exercising, etc.), a pose (e.g., standing, sitting, etc.) or otherwise. As another example, a series of words may be identified that relate to a specific action and specific object (e.g., a person running, a car driving down a road, a phone ringing, etc.). In other words, the context analysis module 316 is configured to provide context to the literal interpretation of actions described by the text.

      [0062] In addition to providing context to the literal interpretation of the text, the context analysis module 316 may determine an origin of the text. The origin of the text may be determined by identifying any slang or dialect in the words, by determining if the text has appeared in any books, plays, or other forms of media, or otherwise. For example, upon analysis of the text, it may be determined that the origin of the text is from a Shakespearean play. A setting or location of 16.sup.th Century England may then be determined by the context analysis module 316. As another example, if the text includes names of historical figures from an era and location, the era and location may be set as the setting or location (e.g., the name Julius Caesar may lead to an identification of ancient Rome as a setting or location, the name Abraham Lincoln may indicate a setting of the United States Civil War Era, etc.).

      That's pretty clear on how the module works - it parses the text looking for one or more predefined words, such as a dictionary-based search. Some of those words are used to determine the origin of the text.

      You are mistaken about the purpose of a patent, which is disclose how an invention functions, not to reserve types of functionality regardless of implementation.

      I didn't say anything about the purpose of a patent, so why exactly do you think I'm mistaken? What I said, in its entirety, was "Yes, it does - see figures 4-8 and the accompanying description" in response to your inaccurate statement that the application didn't include an algorithm. Don't try to put words in peoples' mouths in a public forum where anyone can simply scroll up to see that you're lying.

    24. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by Zordak · · Score: 1

      Look, matey, had you bothered to read the parent, and bothered to look up the two patents cited, you would have noted, that the USPTO fails miserably at following its own directives. Both patents clearly disclose a very old and very wrong assumption; that by rotating a magnet in an electric filed and switching the polarity, this magnet starts to spin from the rotated magnet field.

      Like I said, I'm not judging whether they're scientifically sound. I'm just saying that they claim that the energy supply is exhaustable, so they're not perpetual motion machines. (And no, I didn't read them carefully. I just glanced over them and saw that they were claiming to mine energy stored in permanent magnets.) The USPTO will not necessarily reject your claim merely because it's pseudo-science (see MPEP 2107.01(II); "Incredible Utility"). It just needs to not be a flagrant violation of all known laws of physics (a FTL ship would probably fall in this same category).

      I can only ask: how would one refute this application?

      Why would you refute this application? Do you want to build one of these? Actually, if you do, you're probably okay, because it looks like they never paid the maintenance fee, so this one is dead.

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    25. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by nbauman · · Score: 1

      A patent is supposed to be "enabling," which means it should enable someone skilled in the art to create it (after the patent expires, for example). If it doesn't tell you how to make a working product, it's not a valid patent.

      Or at least that's my understanding of patent law. IANAL.

    26. Re:A patent on making textbooks less boring? by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Actually this patent really stinks of it to the point that it is not an application for a single patent, but a grab bag for a whole bunch of patents for all the steps in between, more than a hundred patents jammed in there for the cost of one. When you start to look at the steps, you can start to see how dangerous this patent application is. Will the USPTO pass it, off course, it doesn't give a crap about anything except generating a ton of legal fees within the US.

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  5. Of course, the R*AA should get interested... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, this is what screenwriters, directors, and actors do.

    Completely destroys Hollywood.

    1. Re:Of course, the R*AA should get interested... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure there was already a big copyright lawsuit against an open source textbook publisher, not by the *AAs of course, that did something similar although more in-depth (creating an entire matching textbook out of internet search results or some such).

      Considering where this patent is going, it's not a long shot that the *AAs and the textbook publishers will get together to make a case against anyone making use of the patent.

  6. What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What problem are they trying to solve here? If people don't want to read, why force them? Sure, reading is a skill we all should possess, but by doing this you don't help with learning how to read at all. So all the benefits of forcing them to read are removed.

    1. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      First, kids are forced to read Shakespeare now, like it or not.

      Second, this clearly isn't being done in order to teach people to read. It seems like an attempt to enhance reading experiences.

      I don't think much will really come from this but come on, use some imagination. Maybe a memorable visual will help somebody remember something. Maybe it's purely for entertainment (which is not worthless).

      Myself, I imagine you could get 10 minutes of entertainment seeing what images and videos come out of snippets of text you write in a text editor. I really doubt I'd use it for Shakespeare.

    2. Re:What problem by marcello_dl · · Score: 0

      > What problem are they trying to solve here?
      The problem is that the NSA hasn't got enough data on our kids' assignments. Next.

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    3. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but most stories are stuff you want to read to experience yourself. I can't believe this will ever help you remember any kind of math formulas or whatever, stuff that you have to remember (and even that). I know kids are forced to read books in school, I am fine with that. Its just that if they use this for their book reading, they aren't really learning anything there. Forcing kids to learn books to remember them is just stupid and not really a practical skill.

      I imagine people are going to check this out once, find it funny but the novelty will wear off very quickly due to it not being good enough.

    4. Re:What problem by lxs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is the mentality that something is only worth doing if it makes you feel better right now. This "solution" only makes things worse. It's like a parent trying to get compliance by bribing their toddler with candy.

    5. Re:What problem by loufoque · · Score: 2

      I don't understand. Reading Shakespeare is enjoyable.
      What is wrong with those kids?

    6. Re:What problem by chthon · · Score: 2

      No, no, what is wrong with Bill Gates? (My personal take says: everything)

      Gates does not seem to be able to distinguish technology from the way people work.

    7. Re:What problem by readingaccount · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The problem is the mentality that something is only worth doing if it makes you feel better right now. This "solution" only makes things worse. It's like a parent trying to get compliance by bribing their toddler with candy.

      I'd like to connect your quote with something another commenter said:

      Why do we object so strongly to the idea of teaching children the value of deferred please; that hard work and effort now can produce greater rewards down the line?

      Both of you have the same concern as I do - that as a society we only seem to be interested in short-term efforts if they bring immediate rewards (with the exception of perhaps college, but only because so many people have to these days to get a half-decent job it seems). Long-term investment in time and effort is seen as a waste because the payoff might take quite a while to eventuate... and the problem is that not only is this true, it's also not guaranteed that a payoff will even eventuate after all that work.

      Short-term effort shows the results reasonably quickly, good or bad. Long-term effort is a difficult thing to justify in our busy lives, so many people avoid it, whether that be consistent exercise, working on a hobby that will take months to produce something half-decent, or indeed, building any skills that aren't strictly necessary to survive.

    8. Re:What problem by bfandreas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't understand. Reading Shakespeare is enjoyable. What is wrong with those kids?

      The language is now a bit dated. Also the plays are always hard to read if you have no imagination. They were meant to be performed. In many ways this patent describes the job of a director. In which case I would have to decline. Politely.
      In most other cases it is a prosthetic for imagination and thought processes.
      At this point I would have mandatory philosophy classes just to get the kids back on track. Just the basics. Logic, the nature of knowledge, the old Aristotle vs. Plato argument, Munchhausen trilemma. No complex post-Renaissance/modern stuff. Just a kickstart for the old noggin. Then MAYBE they will learn to read and understand texts, the spirit they were written in and their context.

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    9. Re:What problem by mrbester · · Score: 1

      You got lucky. For a lot of kids, Shakespeare is impenetrable, boring and anachronistic. Plus they have to write tedious essay after tedious essay that basically puts them off for life. However, this is entirely the fault of crap teachers and curricula. Note how many kids "don't like Shakespeare" but like films based on the plays such as West Side Story, The Lion King, Forbidden Planet and Ten Things I Hate About You.

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    10. Re:What problem by mwvdlee · · Score: 2

      The problem they are trying to solve here is the problem of another company potentially inventing something cool having to do with books and not having a weapon to bludgeon that company into submission.

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    11. Re:What problem by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      the problem they're trying to solve is one where, in some unspecified future if someone comes up with a way of making textbooks more interactive by inserting multimedia and other content then Billy and Nath won't be able to assert their vague and speculative patent to extort loadsa cash.

      By registering this vague and speculative patent, this problem gets solved! hurrah for the boost in innovation and economic prosperity (for Billy and Nath obviously, not the sucker who might actually come up with the innovation and hard work to make such technology work).

    12. Re:What problem by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Yet Romeo + Juliet was perfectly fine to the modern viewer.

    13. Re:What problem by bfandreas · · Score: 1

      Yet Romeo + Juliet was perfectly fine to the modern viewer.

      Rome and Juliet is boring pap after Mercutio's death. He is the only likeable character in the whole play. BTW, I liked the movie.

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    14. Re:What problem by loufoque · · Score: 1

      The anachronisms are intrinsic to the genre. I doubt most kids are knowledgeable enough to identify all of them anyway.

      From what you're saying, it seems that they like the stories, but do not like the act of reading. That's the fault of the parents, not the teachers.

    15. Re:What problem by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      For a lot of kids, Shakespeare is impenetrable, boring and anachronistic.

      I agree that this is bad teaching: I mean, Shakespeare plays have everything you could want in great entertainment - sex, songs, gruesome violence, some drug use, stupid teenage romance, clowns, and sometimes epic proportions.

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    16. Re:What problem by Aguazul2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Short-term effort shows the results reasonably quickly, good or bad. Long-term effort is a difficult thing to justify in our busy lives, so many people avoid it, whether that be consistent exercise, working on a hobby that will take months to produce something half-decent, or indeed, building any skills that aren't strictly necessary to survive.

      I agree. All this will achieve is distract children from actually understanding anything by looking at a feed of supposedly related pictures/videos instead. It reminds me of a YouTube video of "My favorite things" (Sound of Music) in which someone had put clipart pictures of all the things. How completely irrelevant and distracting. The point of the song is not the list of things!

    17. Re:What problem by Attila+the+Bun · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem is that people are being taught Shakespeare without seeing the plays. The books are just scripts - useful for studying the play, but they were never meant to stand on their own. Without the actors the lines are dry and uninteresting.

      Even a video doesn't convey why Shakespeare is regarded as one of the greatest English writers. His plays were meant to be watched in a theatre, where actors can captivate the audience and convey their story. Good actors will make the story clear and accessible to anyone, as Shakespeare intended, in spite of the old-fashioned and sometimes-difficult language. Only then, once you've seen and understood the play can you start to study it in more detail.

      The patent sounds technically dubious, but it's not even addressing the real problem.

    18. Re:What problem by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      The problem is the mentality that something is only worth doing if it makes you feel better right now. This "solution" only makes things worse. It's like a parent trying to get compliance by bribing their toddler with candy.

      It doesn't help that the described 'invention' will actually make the task slower in the attempt to make it palatable; while making the bribe worse by trying to make it 'relevant'. Does anyone suspect that a computer throwing together clip art is going to produce especially compelling footage(except occasionally by sheer accidental absurdity)? Or that time spent watching stock footage of guys with swords is something that helps you in actually reading the text?

      If you wanted to bribe kiddo, it'd be far easier to just tell him to read the damn book in exchange for some time to screw around on youtube. This concept has all the vices of bribery; but isn't even as good as the conventional form.

    19. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe GGP would like to give Romeo x Juliet a try.

    20. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you imagine the porn? This has the potential to make slashfics either hilarious or even more disturbing!

    21. Re:What problem by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      I wanted to say that I agree 100%.

      I also wanted to comment on the suggestion that someone would want to substitute family members into Shakespearean plays. I don't think that whoever wrote that part of the patent text has read any Shakespeare.

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    22. Re:What problem by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

      The formulas that I found easiest to remember were the ones which were placed next to a diagram or picture. It's not the information that's in the image, but the the extra association which makes recollection easier. It's how our brains work.
      I remember seeing an interview with a competitive memory guy and one of his techniques for remembering the order of a pack of cards was to associate each card with an object and make up a story from the sequence. What at first seems completely arbitrary and useless is actually a highly effective memory technique.

    23. Re:What problem by pr0fessor · · Score: 2

      Sound like they are trying to have your device take over for your imagination.

      The other day we ran out of aluminum foil and I was telling my son how I had built a model rocket out of the cardboard roll from a box of aluminum foil when I was his age 13yrs old... I told him about building a small generator that would power a light bulb using old speaker magnets and enamel copper wire... he found none of it the least bit interesting and went on about playing his video game.

    24. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember reading lots of literature, including most of the "classics", while in school and college. But what I remember the -most- is exactly what you note: the boring, tedious essays. Of struggling to pad out dreary text to "x" number of pages. It really got to the point where I would cringe with each new assignment. I associated what are supposed to be "great" works with what felt like punishment, and that negative association is what I still remember the most.

      Just a discussion- some sort of participatory read-through where the fine points are explained- would have probably worked -far- better toward understanding those works as well as perhaps actually enjoying them.

      But a "text to movie" device? Isn't that what we are supposed to be able to do in our own heads? Isn't that why books are so often far better than the movie adaptation, if you have any ability at all to create that movie in your own brain as you read? Shouldn't the focus be on developing that ability?

    25. Re:What problem by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

      I suspect by anachronistic he wasn't referring to specific details that have to be identified but rather the character's actions and behavior for the modern reader, as well as the storytelling itself. To deny that the social and literary developments in the last 400 years have had no effect on the perception of Shakespeare is a bit disingenuous.

      As for reading skills you could engage in an endless debate about parents vs. teachers, but at the end of the day you have to question the sense in forcing someone to read something they clearly aren't able to appreciate or gain any value from.

    26. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tl;dr

    27. Re:What problem by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

      If it makes them read it slower that's probably a good thing. Shakespeare can be skimmed over really quickly, but almost every line requires some pondering if you really want to appreciate it.
      Your suggestion on the other hand encourages the opposite: Get through the reading requirement as quickly as possible to reap the reward. The parent has managed to transfer his disengagement from the topic to their child. Hardly very useful.

      The more successful parent will try to increase the engagement with the medium, and show an interest in the text themselves. You might get through less volume, but chances are the kid is more likely to look at a few Shakespeare clips when they log on to youtube.

    28. Re:What problem by Baby+Duck · · Score: 2

      Romeo and Juliet makes no sense. If the "poison fiasco" would have worked as Juliet intended, she would have ran away with Romeo into the country. However, her own father flat out told her he would disown her if she didn't marry that other guy. Why couldn't she just say, "OK!", not marry that dude, let the disownment happen, and run away with Romeo into the country any goddamn way. Why go this elaborate poison route?

      You could argue Juliet was just too young, too dumb, too passionate, not clear-headed, etc. However, none of that excuses Friar Laurence who provided the poison and hatched the whole harebrained scheme in the first place.

      Your beloved play does not hold up to cursory scrutiny. Admit it. And stop making kids read it for a grade.

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    29. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It all goes back to the lack of education. Short term rewards are FELT, long term rewards are THOUGHT ABOUT. if you can't think think logically (If I do this now, I'll get a reward later) then all you are left with is emotion (this feels good now).

    30. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is the mentality that something is only worth doing if it makes you feel better right now. This "solution" only makes things worse. It's like a parent trying to get compliance by bribing their toddler with candy.

      Yeah. Enjoy Microsoft Sam reading a book... *palm face*

    31. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What problem are they trying to solve here? If people don't want to read, why force them? Sure, reading is a skill we all should possess, but by doing this you don't help with learning how to read at all. So all the benefits of forcing them to read are removed.

      The core concept here is that some people do not learn efficiently by reading pages of dry fact and figures but instead learn better by seeing/hearing representations of events. This is where educational comics/movies/video games come from. As an example "The Magic School Bus" is a famously successful method of teaching audio-visual learners principles of basic science by crafting a cartoon narrative that illustrates the application of those concepts.

      This project is an attempt at automating the creation of those audio-visual presentation media from dry text and putting that tool directly in the hands of students rather than relying on "someone" to bother producing a series based on the information. If it worked it could be very valuable.

      Another way to look at it is they're creating a prothetic imagination for people who never developed their own.

    32. Re:What problem by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      I don't think much will really come from this but come on, use some imagination. Maybe a memorable visual will help somebody remember something. Maybe it's purely for entertainment (which is not worthless).

      I think that's part of the problem here -- computer interpretation is being substituted for imagination. Maybe a memorable visual will help somebody remember something... but more likely it will just narrow the perception of the person using the system.

      After all, you can already type a line of Shakespeare into Google and look at the image and video results. For that matter, I'm sure apps already exist that will OCR scanned text and submit it to Google. So this patent isn't novel, nor all that useful.

      It might be slightly useful for obscure texts, but I'd think a dialect translator would be more useful (17th century phrases do not always have the same meanings today).

    33. Re:What problem by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      As for reading skills you could engage in an endless debate about parents vs. teachers, but at the end of the day you have to question the sense in forcing someone to read something they clearly aren't able to appreciate or gain any value from.

      You definitely have to question it; you don't have to reject it though. The idea is to at least expose the kids to something different; something that doesn't line up with how they regularly think. After that point, depending on prior training by parents and teachers, they can either learn to expand their thinking, or be permanently turned off reading classical literature.

      Remember: this debate used to be over reading Virgil and Horace in the original Latin -- now Latin's completely off the curriculum, and almost nobody reads Virgil and Horace (even in translation) in public school. Since English is a live language and 17th century literature is becoming increasingly dated, we'll eventually have to only study watered-down re-spins of it, or drop it and study something more recent instead. Or, of course, start making a course in 17th century English and culture mandatory.

    34. Re:What problem by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      I also wanted to comment on the suggestion that someone would want to substitute family members into Shakespearean plays. I don't think that whoever wrote that part of the patent text has read any Shakespeare.

      Maybe you just haven't met their family....

    35. Re:What problem by The+Cat · · Score: 1

      So the practical translation of your statement is

      I AM SCIENTIST AND DISPRUVD SHAKESPER! GIRLS R ICKY

      That about cover it?

    36. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what you're saying, it seems that they like the stories, but do not like the act of reading. That's the fault of the parents, not the teachers.

      It's both parents AND teachers.

    37. Re:What problem by udippel · · Score: 1

      Let me ask something provocative - no, better, let me state something provocative: I for one love Shakespeare (and others, like Bunuel), and I could give a rat's back-part if it stands up to a reasonable logical scrutiny. I wrote it before, I don't love Shakespeare for his plots. Actually, I don't think three witches ever assembled to foresee the death of the king by the hand of a weakling pressured by his horrible wife. And I don't think that someone fearing soldiers creeping up the hill in disguise with twigs and leafs will actually have made a king in the first place.
      And don't ever get me started with some spirits of the air ...

    38. Re:What problem by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      However, none of that excuses Friar Laurence who provided the poison and hatched the whole harebrained scheme in the first place.

      Obviously, Romeo and Juliet is *really* about a sadistic serial-killer who's MO is getting people to commit suicide.

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    39. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Romeo and Juliet makes no sense. If the "poison fiasco" would have worked as Juliet intended, she would have ran away with Romeo into the country. However, her own father flat out told her he would disown her if she didn't marry that other guy. Why couldn't she just say, "OK!", not marry that dude, let the disownment happen, and run away with Romeo into the country any goddamn way. Why go this elaborate poison route?

      Because, if she pretends to kill herself, she doesn't have to go through the 'disownment'. She doesn't get publicly shamed, etc. And, if she's 'dead', it's always possible to pop up a few years (or decades) later, after things have calmed down, and be accepted back. Can't do that with disownment.

    40. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly! And while they are at it why not an automatic ass scratcher and let that also brush my teeth! I'll bet they didn't think of that one.. Go Bill!

    41. Re:What problem by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 1

      Hey fellas! Looks like we got a reader here!

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    42. Re:What problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This new idea is just what everyone needs. Maybe, these two are planning for the days when everyone who is alive is so because they live deep underground with no hope of being able to go to the surface of planet earth until the radioactivity escapes the atmosphere and normal weather patterns reappear. With that kind of stress, it may indeed be difficult to concentrate on the task of reading.

    43. Re:What problem by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      I don't understand. Reading Shakespeare is enjoyable.

      Shakespeare's plays are not meant to be read, they are meant to be watched. And you don't need Gates' vapourware to watch one - there are many recorded perfomances of any one that you choose, and (at least where I live) there is always a live performance of one somewhere within an hour's drive. Even the most amateurish of the lot will be a million times better than the disjointed farce that this scheme is likely to concoct The actors are going to sound like Stephen Hawking and the Evil Computer in Portal, and I hate to think what it will look like.

    44. Re:What problem by Fenster+Karton · · Score: 0

      You know stupid the average guy is? Well, half of the people are even more stupid.

    45. Re:What problem by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Wish I had mod points, but since I don't, I'm just gonna agree emphatically.

      I am a Shakespearean actor and director, and the issues are exactly what you say they are. Throwing students a copy of the book and telling them to read it is about the worst way to teach Shakespeare. The transformation from the page to the stage takes years to learn.

      As an actor, I can get you to understand the text even if you don't know all the words and don't have a glossary. I know what they mean, which drives my performance, but if you're stumbling over unfamiliar text and grammar there's no hope of you following the story. It takes me weeks of studying the lines to understand the full meaning.

      I would much rather have them watch a good staged production (NOT just a bunch of other students reading it out loud) and then discuss it with the actors and director. Then go back and read some of the best parts in detail, to figure out how they work and what makes it so effective. Memorize some speeches and learn how the sense of the text matches the rhythm of the meter and the tactic of each line, not just a bunch of syllables to be spat out.

      I really hated the way I was taught Shakespeare, and this technology sounds as if it won't make that one whit better. Bringing some actors into schools, however, might do some good.

  7. I want it for by e70838 · · Score: 3, Funny

    the integral collection of Marquis de Sade

    1. Re:I want it for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh noes siree. This will be first to be censored. Will work only on "Parent commission approved" material.
      Think of the children.

  8. No algorithm should mean no patent by reve_etrange · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This patent is just a wish list of features with no disclosure of any technique for realizing any of those features.

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    1. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... also known as a software patent.

    2. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      you know what's funny? such wish lists have been written before.. and it'll be expired by the time people can make it reality in state that's not total bull.

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    3. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by intermodal · · Score: 1

      While I'd tend to agree, and while it would be nice to have this patent expire before that time, I don't like the fact that it may deter people from trying.

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    4. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by dabadab · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, having a patent also means no patent, since algorithms are not patentable.

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    5. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      I suppose hat's the only hope for a general-purpose robot, that bars and motors hooked together under computer control is long since past patent. Yet it is the AI software that probably is the most deserving of patent of any human invention since, ever. Even flight, fire, agriculture, or wheel, as far as desireability and impact onife is concerned.

      Yet it's just an unpatentable "algorithm".

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    6. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      This patent is just a wish list of features with no disclosure of any technique for realizing any of those features.

      Not so. See figures 4-8 and the accompanying description.

      Also, why isn't this modded redundant, since you posted the exact same thing earlier?

    7. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by tepples · · Score: 1

      However, a computer with memory and appropriate input and output devices executing the algorithm can still be patented.

    8. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by oxdas · · Score: 1

      I think the complaint here is that there is nothing in those flow charts that reveal how they plan to accomplish this. They have provided many very broad and generic requirements, but they don't reveal any nuts and bolts. The devil's in the details with a system this complex. The result is that no one skilled in programming could take this patent and learn anything about how to make this "invention." Conversely, many people could run afoul of this patent by making a myriad of different implementations that follow a basic framework.

      For example, from figure 4, "Generate a model information associated with the text", in figure 5 "Analyze the text for a contextual cue", or from figure 6 "Analyze the second image for auxilary information." All of these are very general and provide no real details to indicate the actual "how" to make this work. For each of these steps there are numerous ways to accomplish "analysis" or "generating a model," but Microsoft doesn't tell us what these vague terms mean in the context of this patent.

      Given these figures, Microsoft is claiming an incredibly broad patent that covers nearly every implementation of this idea, so long as it follows a very broad framework (that is likely to be used by anyone trying to acheive this idea).

    9. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      I think the complaint here is that there is nothing in those flow charts that reveal how they plan to accomplish this. They have provided many very broad and generic requirements, but they don't reveal any nuts and bolts. The devil's in the details with a system this complex. The result is that no one skilled in programming could take this patent and learn anything about how to make this "invention."

      Oh, I don't know about that. With a good flow chart, I think a decent programmer can come up with an implementation of the algorithm.

      Conversely, many people could run afoul of this patent by making a myriad of different implementations that follow a basic framework.

      For example, from figure 4, "Generate a model information associated with the text", in figure 5 "Analyze the text for a contextual cue", or from figure 6 "Analyze the second image for auxilary information." All of these are very general and provide no real details to indicate the actual "how" to make this work.

      Well, yeah, but there's also the specification discussing those steps. Additionally, if I give you, a carpenter, an instruction to fasten two boards together, that's very general and provides no real details... But you can probably come up with a dozen different ways to do so, including nails, screws, glue, dovetail joints, etc. If my overall furniture design for a combination couch/toilet is novel and nonobvious, why shouldn't I be able to claim any trivial variation of the design? Or conversely, why should you get to claim you don't infringe because you used Phillips screws rather than flathead screws?

      Given these figures, Microsoft is claiming an incredibly broad patent that covers nearly every implementation of this idea, so long as it follows a very broad framework (that is likely to be used by anyone trying to acheive this idea).

      And if their idea is novel and nonobvious, then they should get a claim to cover nearly every implementation. Mind you, this doesn't mean the idea is novel or nonobvious, and a lot of time, those claims get significantly narrowed before the patent is ever issued. But, if, for example, you come up with a working method for faster than light communication, why shouldn't you get a claim that covers such a method, whether it's done in hardware or software, runs Windows or Linux, written in C or COBOL, etc.?

    10. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      The purpose of patents is to give inventors a limited monopoly on their specific invention, method or process in exchange for disclosure. It is not to reserve ideas or functionality. Just saying "create an information model" is nothing like enough. You can't own the idea of "create an information model," although you might be able to own a particular "information model" if it is novel and nonobvious, etc.

      To use your example, if I were to invent and patent an ansible which employs quantum entanglement, your ansible employing latent human telepathy is non-infringing. You can't patent "the ansible," only a specific method for realizing one.

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    11. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by udippel · · Score: 1

      Yep. But is has been patented (or just not), so your argument is rather futile in this respect.

    12. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      You are unclear on the concept of the patent. No invention or inventor is "deserving" of a patent. An inventor granted a patent enters into a social contract in which the society/government agrees to enforce monopoly use rights in exchange for disclosure of the covered invention. It's a pragmatic arrangement which seeks to prevent inventions being held as secrets and eventually forgotten, nothing more.

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    13. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by oxdas · · Score: 1

      Oh, I don't know about that. With a good flow chart, I think a decent programmer can come up with an implementation of the algorithm.

      The inventive step here is the how, not the what. If Microsoft was granted a patent on one of the implementations, I would be fine with that. Instead, Microsoft was granted a patent on a very general, obvious, process flow, with all the inventive steps represented as black boxes that they can fill with anything they choose.

      Well, yeah, but there's also the specification discussing those steps. Additionally, if I give you, a carpenter, an instruction to fasten two boards together, that's very general and provides no real details... But you can probably come up with a dozen different ways to do so, including nails, screws, glue, dovetail joints, etc. If my overall furniture design for a combination couch/toilet is novel and nonobvious, why shouldn't I be able to claim any trivial variation of the design? Or conversely, why should you get to claim you don't infringe because you used Phillips screws rather than flathead screws?

      Are you suggesting that the idea of fastening together two boards is patentable subject matter? If someone invents a novel and non-obvious way of fastening boards together, I think they deserve a patent, but only on their implementation.

      In this case, there are non-trivial variations. The hard work, the inventive steps, are left as black boxes in this patent. The difficulty in implementing this idea is not in the process flow, but in the "analysis" and "models." In your couch/toilet idea, should you also get to own all non-trivial variations? In this patent, Microsoft does.

      And if their idea is novel and nonobvious, then they should get a claim to cover nearly every implementation. Mind you, this doesn't mean the idea is novel or nonobvious, and a lot of time, those claims get significantly narrowed before the patent is ever issued. But, if, for example, you come up with a working method for faster than light communication, why shouldn't you get a claim that covers such a method, whether it's done in hardware or software, runs Windows or Linux, written in C or COBOL, etc.?

      Nobody should be able to patent the concept of "faster than light communication." The implementation can be patented, in any form, but that has nothing to do with this patent. Microsoft has not patented any implementation, it has patented a very reasonable process flow for acheiving a wide variety of implementations. This patent would apply whether it extracts keywords from the page or whether it uses complex machine learning algorithms to analyze the text. They are trying to patent the idea of turning print media into images in as broad a stroke as possible.

      I am sure this patent will be scaled back, but only after someone has paid millions of dollars to fight it. This patent does nothing to "promote the progress of Science", it is a roadblock.

    14. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

      The purpose of patents is to give inventors a limited monopoly on their specific invention, method or process in exchange for disclosure. It is not to reserve ideas or functionality. Just saying "create an information model" is nothing like enough. You can't own the idea of "create an information model," although you might be able to own a particular "information model" if it is novel and nonobvious, etc.

      What is this "nothing like enough" and where do you find it in the statutes? If you're referring to the fact that "create an information model" has been done before, then sure. But if we're talking about something that hasn't been done before, such as FTL communication, then as long as you disclose enough detail to enable one of ordinary skill in the art to make and use the invention, why shouldn't you be able to claim a method for FTL communication, without going in depth on the specifics of quantum entanglement?

      To use your example, if I were to invent and patent an ansible which employs quantum entanglement, your ansible employing latent human telepathy is non-infringing. You can't patent "the ansible," only a specific method for realizing one.

      If my ansible includes every part that's in your claimed ansible, then I do infringe. So, the question is how narrowly you have to claim your ansible to be patentable over the prior art.

    15. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by oxdas · · Score: 1

      After re-reading, I didn't mean "print media," but rather digital text. Too bad there isn't an edit option.

    16. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by s.petry · · Score: 1

      I think this is easier to dismiss with prior art. Translations exist, and have existed for thousands of years in both written and oral traditions. Software translations have also been written for decades. What Billy is trying to claim is that he wants to patent a translation. If you translate to a summary, it is still a translation. If you translate an unknown title to a current equivalent, it's still a translation.

      I have to add that an algorithm is math and math is not supposed to be patentable. There should be no concession on this rule, yet people continue to kow-tow to people who believe that they should own _everything_ and charge you rent.

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      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    17. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      I personally agree that algorithms should not be patentable. I also think that software is sufficiently protected by copyrights and in any event I agree also with recent scholarly work against intellectual property in general.

      However, say we provisionally accept the mainstream legal view that algorithms are patentable so long as the patent is really 1) non-obvious, 2) novel and 3) describes actual methods to achieve functionality. I think that then it's not possible for a patent to fail tests 1 or 2 if it fails test 3, because one cannot specify the novelty or obviousness of a method if no method is given. So I do think the "prior art" test is secondary to the "is this an invention" test, and the current patent isn't an invention, just a list of features a hypothetical invention might contain.

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    18. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by s.petry · · Score: 1

      I don't agree and simply think we "accept" people's will to hold power instead of arguing with basic logic. Let me give a few examples. A pressure gauge was patented as a hardware invention. Other gauges, such as a Speedometer, went through similar patents. When we create a software patent for a gauge we are not creating anything new, we are making a representation of a prior physical device that was previously patented. This doubles the duration of a patent in practice, ensuring monopolization for twice the intended duration. We have seed sorting machines and vegetable sorting machines that were patented. In software, we implement various methods of sorting which mimic what we have previously allowed to be patented. Nearly everything we have in software is an adaptation of something we have done in hardware.

      To me, the logic is simple. Software patents were initially denied because almost all software patents are re-implementations of what we have allowed patents for in physical machinery.

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      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    19. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      I mostly agree with you; my points is just that even under the current mainstream legal view (CMLV), it seems this particular patent doesn't really describe an invention at all, just features for a hypothetical one. Again, this should have disqualified this patent even under the CMLV.

      I do believe however that software patents were originally denied as mathematics, i.e. because you can't patent the abstract, rather than because of prior art. To take your sorting example, there isn't really a prior-art comparison between physical sorting (based on size, shape, etc.) and sorting algorithms such as qsort, Heap Sort, Merge Sort, etc. Patents don't cover specific functions, just specific ways of implementing those functions (again, according to the CMLV). If I got a patent on qsort, it wouldn't prohibit you from using or patenting Heap Sort.

      And yes, most of the software patents we see are clearly invalid under the CMLV, but the USPTO is extremely lax and declarations of invalidity require costly and lengthy legal interventions.

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      .: Semper Absurda :.
    20. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by s.petry · · Score: 1

      Seems like we agree that it should not happen. I blame the shitty way the USPTO is handling things on the people with money bribing officials into and in offices, and the populace being both dumb enough to let it happen and fooled into believing there is nothing wrong with it. I read a speech given in the 1800s regarding copyright law, and it is astounding that the same arguments then are still around today. Not because Copyrights and Patents are good for Society, but because it makes a select few people a shitload of money.

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      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    21. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by reve_etrange · · Score: 1

      It's completely ridiculous that the USPTO is supposed to self-fund via fees. There is a fee to file and another (the largest) to re-examine, which to my mind creates a conflict of interest. I also don't understand what could be going through the examiners' minds when they approve all these absurdly obvious patents, as well as ones (like this one) which just don't describe any actual processes. I mean, what the hell is "create an information model" supposed to cover?

      The situation with copyright is probably going to stay shitty for a while longer (before, I think, eventually reverting to the historical norm of no special protection from individual copying), but I do have some hope that the patent situation will improve because of how seriously it is impinging innovation. Patents are definitely a major reason why I probably wont try to develop any of my academic work into a business.

      And that's not to mention the absurdity of the treble damages for willfull infringement. It actually incentives us never to look at any patent, thus neutering the supposed benefit that patents provide.

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      .: Semper Absurda :.
    22. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by s.petry · · Score: 1

      The situation with copyright is probably going to stay shitty for a while longer (before, I think, eventually reverting to the historical norm of no special protection from individual copying), but I do have some hope that the patent situation will improve because of how seriously it is impinging innovation.

      I'm a realist, and have no such hope, at least not while we have a Political class of people holding nearly every political and judicial office. Big players that can afford it have think tanks doing nothing but submitting patents on "ideas" and legal teams figuring out how to make them pass the poor process we have for patent review.

      The only way it changes, is to get rid of the Political class. Since the same class controls media and manipulates the public, it will take quite a bit to fix it. I'm referring to a revolt or military coup in the US as the likely change. The corruption is so entrenched it's hard to see any other method working.

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      -The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.

    23. Re:No algorithm should mean no patent by TechNeilogy · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine and I invented the MP3 player decades before the first one was ever produced. We thought: wouldn't it be cool to have a pocket-sized, totally electronic device which could store and play our favorite songs? We even made a modelling clay mockup that was more realistic and descriptive than most patent diagrams. To bad we didn't contact the patent office... On a brighter note: I don't think the idea is totally bad; providing a context for a work of literature can make it more interesting and appealing, and can make first contact with it more rewarding. However, having been a victim of some experimental "new media" education back in the olden days, I can confirm that such things need to be carefully crafted in order to keep the experience from disolving into easily forgotten glitz.

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      "The wisdom of the Patriarchs was that they *knew* they were fools." --Master Foo
  9. Newthing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This needs pretty advanced natural language processing to work.

    I hope that .NET will also get better natural language
    processing library support.

    1. Re:Newthing by arth1 · · Score: 2

      This needs pretty advanced natural language processing to work.

      Simple word matching would be a good start.

      The Audobon member proudly showed her his collection of tits. "I had a blue footed booby too, but the pussy ate it."

      What could possibly go wrong?

  10. Prior Art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He basically describes OCR to read the text (mostly cancelled claims), and then piping the textual description to a video synthesis system. I'm not aware of video synthesis, but image synthesis and composition already exists, and has for several years. For example: Sketch2Photo shows a similar concept that can be used to dismiss a good chunk of the very few claims left in this application.

    1. Re:Prior Art by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Looks like this has potential. Thanks for the link.

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    2. Re:Prior Art by Bucc5062 · · Score: 1

      I checked out the sketch2Photo site...Amazing! To think you can draw an idea, present it to this program and out pops a photo?

      To get this out, I am in agreement that there should be no patent award to Bill. When I read the summary my first thought was "This is the beginning of the end to imagination". I feel their "idea" diminishes the requirement that children learn to use their imagination, to create a place, scene, or person and Bill's idea would jsut take any effort away.

      What I see in a program like S2P as a tool in exercising imagination. A kid could draw a Unicorn playing with a Bear by a lake and this program puts depth to the effort. The only concern I would have is that something like this could impact Art. Not sure how, but I get this feeling it changes what is Art and what is the creative process.

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    3. Re:Prior Art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  11. I was just gonna say by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 2

    The first thing this will be used for is going to be porn, not Shakespeare. The disturbing thing is that it will be used for all sorts of porn "frowned upon" as well. How legal is this generated porn and can the creator of the application be held liable for generating the content?

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    1. Re:I was just gonna say by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      How is that disturbing? I prefer society's perverts getting their jollies from auto-generated virtual kiddie porn, to them getting it from porn produced using actual children. One could argue that access to virtual porn will fuel their desire for the real thing, but virtual porn might also be sufficient to satisfy their needs so that they will no longer need the real deal.

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      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    2. Re:I was just gonna say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer society's perverts getting their jollies from auto-generated virtual kiddie porn, to them getting it from porn produced using actual children.

      Your false dichotomy aside, have we run out of bullets? I prefer my child molesters dead and buried.

    3. Re:I was just gonna say by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately, people tend to dislike the idea of having their life ended prematurely, so it is very unlikely that the average child molester will come forward to collect his bullet. Since precrime doesn't really exist, you have to wait for someone to actually commit a crime before you can convict someone.

      And if virtual kiddy porn can keep just one from going for the real deal, it's worth it.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    4. Re:I was just gonna say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A pedophile is not necessarily a child molester. Your post is less about doing something beneficial to society or protecting children and more about finding and destroying people you find repulsive.

    5. Re:I was just gonna say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their idea is to use your family members as actors. That would be no problem if the porn would stay on your encrypted partition. But as this comes from Bill Gates I would be surprised if it didn't automatically share your family porn with some government agencies. Which is when it get hairy, especially if the models are smooth.

    6. Re:I was just gonna say by sbjornda · · Score: 2

      The first thing this will be used for is going to be porn, not Shakespeare.

      Hey, it's not "either-or".

      HAMLET to OPHELIA: Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
      OPHELIA: No, my lord.
      HAMLET: I mean, my head upon your lap?
      OPHELIA: Ay, my lord.
      HAMLET: Do you think I meant CoUNTry matters?
      OPHELIA: I think nothing, my lord.
      HAMLET: That's a fair thought to lie between maids' legs.

      --
      .nosig

    7. Re:I was just gonna say by mendax · · Score: 1

      The first thing this will be used for is going to be porn, not Shakespeare.

      Hey, it's not "either-or".

      HAMLET to OPHELIA: Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
      OPHELIA: No, my lord.
      HAMLET: I mean, my head upon your lap?
      OPHELIA: Ay, my lord.
      HAMLET: Do you think I meant CoUNTry matters?
      OPHELIA: I think nothing, my lord.
      HAMLET: That's a fair thought to lie between maids' legs.

      -- .nosig

      Oh yes! There is lots of this porn of a sort in Shakespeare. Henry V comes to mind now, the scene between Katherine and her nurse that is spoken entirely in French. The nurse says that she knows some English and proceeds to amaze Katherine with her terribly mispronounced English words for various common body parts and items. When she gets to the part where Katherine asks her nurse for the word for the article of clothing she is wearing the nurse says "gown" but pronounces it like the French word for that thing that starts with a C, ends in a T, means "pussy", and is NOT a cat.

      I guess the book-burning hyper-Christian book banners didn't read Shakespeare to understand that The Bard's plays can contain content that is quite vile by their standards. Hell, Romeo and Juliet contains teenaged sex. I guess Shakespeare is less crude than any ordinary romance novel.

      Shakespeare, as a master of the language, loved to twist it in anyway he could for effect. He would have thoroughly enjoyed George Carlin's line from "The Seven Things You Can't Say on Television": "It's okay to prick your finger but never finger your pr*ck."

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      It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
    8. Re:I was just gonna say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KATHARINE: Ainsi dis-je; de elbow, de nick, et de sin. Comment
      appelez-vous le pied et la robe?
      ALICE: De foot, madame; et de coun.
      KATHARINE: De foot et de coun! O Seigneur Dieu! ce sont mots
      de son mauvais, corruptible, gros, et impudique, et
      non pour les dames d'honneur d'user:...

      The fuck and the cunt for those who need of imageries...

  12. There's An App For That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
  13. April 1 already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it April fools already?

  14. I come not to praise Gates by Infestedkudzu · · Score: 1

    Just an opinion, but don't we use Shakespeare and it's ilk to increase reasoning skills? Much Ado About Nothing is no funnier than any given sitcom out there. Isn't it the language gymnastics that give it's benefit? Seems like chewing it for them just works around testing.

    1. Re:I come not to praise Gates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Writing skills would be good.

    2. Re:I come not to praise Gates by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      That is the dirty secret of classic literature. Most of it just isn't that good.

      I don't think the point of making kids read Shakespeare is to increase reasoning skill. I think that they are made to read it because the people assigning it think it is great literature. They assume that it is their own failing that they don't find it very good, so they either work hard at convincing themselves it is good, or they just fake it. It is like the Emperor's New Clothes.

  15. Catastrophically awful idea by RogueyWon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This proposal just makes my flesh crawl. Why are we so afraid of the idea that some classic works of literature (just like classics in the field of art or film) require a degree of diligence and attention to get the most out of them? Why do we object so strongly to the idea of teaching children the value of deferred please; that hard work and effort now can produce greater rewards down the line?

    It's not just a problem in the arts. If we teach the next generation that all study should be easy, quick and fun, then how do we get over the fact that a learning lot of the science that underpins our current standard of living is none of those things.

    "Sit down, shut up and read" might not be patentable as a teaching method due to prior art (though part of me wouldn't be surprised if somebody tried), but it strikes me as far more useful than the technology described in TFA.

    1. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Because hard work down the line doesn't translate into higher exam scores today.

    2. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Sockatume · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The proposal isn't actually about literature; it's explicitly about textbooks. I dare say it'd have a really hard time with literature because important contextual information is unlikely to be held in the text snippet that it's supposed to visualise. For example it would be pretty trivial to put together an illustration of "1000 men storm the river whatevs" given that it's an abstract, but "What light through yonder window breaks?" takes a lot more foreknowledge.

      I suspect the original intention was for them to be able to programatically generate those little illustrative videos you used to see on Encarta articles. Most of the claims are trashed so whatever the original patent was, it was quite a bit more substantial.

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      No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
    3. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Nope, no it isn't, this is what I get for reading the claims first.

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      No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
    4. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I learn better with visuals instead of text. Some people learn this way and other learn by text. It differs person to person and not everyone is the same. I can blast through an memorize the entire content of a new programming language from a video tutorial that covers basics to advanced algorithms in about 6-9 hours. In a book form, I wouldn't remember it as well so I would constantly be referencing. On a video, you can read, hear, and see things instead of textbooks which is generally just text. I agree that there is a dumbing down of America but it's not like Bill Gates wants every single book to be forced to have this feature. Even after this product hits the market, there will still be the ability to read books line by line.

    5. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by slimdave · · Score: 1

      I completely agree, but the point of the patent is not to do something more effectively, or in any way better, but to protect your idea so that you can make money from it.

      I guess that people stopped making money from printing unadorned works of Shakespeare quite some time ago, and have to find new ways of doing so. This just appears to be a way of linking existing OCR technology with book lookup and thence to multimedia -- none of them innovative, but the combination being a potential money maker.

    6. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Sit down, shut up and read" works for some students. The rest would need to actually learn how to do that.

      So, the options are
      a) Employ more teachers so we have useful class sizes, and give teachers the time to actually help students (which would be expensive, and probably communist or liberal or something)
      b) GADGETS! (which is 100% genuine capitalist)

      *Of course* people will chose b.

    7. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I learn better with visuals instead of text

      Don't you read with your eyes?

    8. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, Shakespeare's plays aren't *meant* to be read. They're meant to be performed. So seeing a performance of the play is actually quite appropriate.

    9. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sit down and shut up?? Is this the 1800s or what the actual fuck?

      How about something actually being engaging an fun? You know: Fun. Nature's indicator of good learning!

      YES, all study MUST be fun. I studied psychology, neurology, game design, motivation, and just about everything around it, and: That notion that learning should somehow be this insufferable process of pain is seriously fucked-up. It is in fact the exact opposite of how people naturally learn. And it comes from a time when people knew shit about psychology or what makes one a genius..
      Games, while sadly having topics that offer no real-world usefulness, are fun exactly because they follow the correct principles. The problem is exactly that schools don't employ those.
      Geniuses, and we studied this, are geniuses because of the exact reason of them having been able to always keep the difficulty level extremely close to their skill level. (And the ability to group things well, so they can keep more stuff in those 6-9 active memory spots we humans are limited to.) There's no such thing as a newborn prodigy.

      What I'm saying is that if Shakespeare is good, then it by definition is engaging and fun, and just starting to read it makes you keep reading all by itself! That is what good means!
      If it's not, then it's pretentious overrated crap. No matter how old it is. (And psychologically, the older something is, the less it keeps having in common with people, hence the less it resonates with their feelings, and so the less they like it.)
      You decide. Provided you actually read it, and aren't just talking out of your ass because monkey see monkey do.

      "Sit down [and] shut up" is deprecated for decades now because of its harmfulness to education.
      But hey, if you want to raise more retarded obedient scared drones, go ahead... just not where they get to vote for the people that rule me, OK?

    10. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      "Fun" != "satisfying".

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    11. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      Yes, point taken on the plays.

      I'd also take issue with the phrase "make Shakespeare less boring". Most of Shakespeare's work (and I will make an exception for a couple of the romcoms, which I do feel are a bit crap) are anything but boring.

    12. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except that, taught well, almost all academia is fun and easy to learn. That includes the 'science that underpins our current standard of living' - at least, the stuff I was taught in medical school and whilst studying computer science.

      The idea that education and learning is a penance is precisely why so many children are turned off to it. Your ideas are antiquated, to the days of chalk boards and quills - this is the age of amazing interactive technology. Capturing the imagination of the young and using technology to aid that is a wonderful thing.

      Of course we can stick to 'sit down, shut up and read' but I don't think it's a good idea.

    13. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      Because hard work down the line doesn't translate into higher exam scores today.

      But it will translate into a generation of children getting out into the workforce who can't do any actual work because they've been coddled and who have been educated in such a way as to maximize standardized tests.

      And then we'll be really screwed. Pay the cost of educating them now, or pay the cost of living with that as your workforce later.

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    14. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To help the blind!

    15. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      The problem is that in our 'classless' society, we seem to believe that EVERYONE needs to be some sort of intellectual, enjoying reading Shakespeare or knowing the dates of important things in history. I mean, EVERYONE should go to college, right?

      The fact is, of course, 95% of everyone could get along very nicely never doing either. In fact, we'd be far better off if we somehow 'decided' that knowing how to do plumbing, how to farm, or how to be an electrician was somehow just as 'valued' as Shakespeare?

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    16. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What light through yonder window breaks?" takes a lot more foreknowledge.

      Nonsense, that's easy, just let me run that thru the system and we'll see the perfect matching picture:

      QUERY: Picture, Sunlight, Distant, Broken Window. DISPLAY MATCH

      Oh, and "Time Flies (really) like an arrow", too.

    17. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's very hard to read Shakespeare's work. Not just the extensive vocabulary, and the olde world usage of the language, you invariably have to deal with a lot of characters, which you only to know through their speech. That's a lot harder than picking up a deep novel. Probably because most of Shakesheare's work is not meant to be read by an individual, it was written to be a presentation performed by several.

    18. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Original Romeo and Juliet Balcony Scene:
      But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?
      It is the east and Juliet is the sun!
      Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon,
      Who is already sick and pale with grief (5)
      That thou her maid art far more fair than she.

      Translation:
      Look at that lady up there. That bitch be fly!

    19. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just ran this Slashdot page through the invention and saw a video of many intelligent, well informed nerds neglecting their families- just like me.

    20. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      File a patent for "sit down, shut up and read"... on a computer!

    21. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      The problem is that in our 'classless' society, we seem to believe that EVERYONE needs to be some sort of intellectual, enjoying reading Shakespeare or knowing the dates of important things in history. I mean, EVERYONE should go to college, right?

      The fact is, of course, 95% of everyone could get along very nicely never doing either. In fact, we'd be far better off if we somehow 'decided' that knowing how to do plumbing, how to farm, or how to be an electrician was somehow just as 'valued' as Shakespeare?

      So you would agree then that 95% of people don't give a crap about computers and just want to get stuff done? Or why they're eagerly snapping up tablets and smartphones because they're easier to use and less of a bother?

      Remember, said electrician or plumber doesn't care about Shakespeare, and they don't care about computers either - other than what they need to know in order to fill out an invoice. And how to use it to get information, recurrent training and how to stay in touch with others. And is just as likely to care about GPL, FOSS and other stuff like freedom as much as they care about what Hamlet is about? Or even stuff about copyrights and DRM. As long as that Blu-ray movie plays in their player, it's good enough. Or that they can sit in front of an Xbox or Playstation and have a few games with buddies.

      It's the same way all around.

      Oh, and Shakespeare is more interesting when you read it in the original Klingon, I'd say.

    22. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by The+Cat · · Score: 1

      eagerly snapping up tablets and smartphones

      Marketing phrase detected. Credibility instantly and permanently drops to zero.

      Have a nice day.

    23. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      Good for me. I was once afraid that I'd become dispensable when I get old (i.e., any time now). Not anymore, the way we are going I'll be able to choose my jobs until I die just because I can read.

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      "When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
    24. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are we so afraid of the idea that some classic works of literature (just like classics in the field of art or film) require a degree of diligence and attention to get the most out of them?

      The patrons of the Globe Theater didn't employ "diligence and attention" to get the most out of Shakespeare. They got shitfaced, paid their penny, and enjoyed a few bawdy hours of watching actors romp around spouting crass jokes and sexual innuendo. Shakespeare's plays only became classic works of literature when examined in a totally different cultural context.

      Imagine taking George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words" routine 700 years into the future to watch academics sucking its marrow, dissecting it, analyzing the cleverness and comedic timing, and having no fucking clue how television, radio, and the FCC actually operated in daily life in the 1980s. You can't "get the most" out of literature until you put it back into its historical context and understand it through the eyes of the original audience. Anything less is just a circle jerk for Literature majors.

    25. Re:Catastrophically awful idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what makes MY flesh crawl? Textbook publishers. For me, the fatal flaw with this proposal is the fact that instead of fixing the fact that the textbook is so wretchedly uninteresting they instead have opted to construct a complicated application to convert it into something the average mind can digest. Why not do away with the textbook altogether and just make better methods of conveying the information students are expected to understand/remember long enough to pass the exam?

      Have you read Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter? I did. And although it is fiction, I learned more ACTUAL history about his life and political career from that than 12 years of American public school history classes.

      Textbook writing and meteorology seem to be the only two careers in which you can be utterly worthless at your job and never get fired.

  16. Re: Pretenciousness hurts my head thingy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what is the point of language gymnastics, you can change the syntax all you want but the semantics are the same, why waste brain cells translating ancient english to modern english. Computers were invented to do all this mundane stuff for us, if a computer can imagine stuff for me too let it.

    also this "invention"is the obvios precursor to the holodeck.

  17. Words, words, words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given the fact that automatic translations still frequently produce gibberish, i'm extremely skeptical that these "systems and methods" will produce anything helpfull to the student. However entertaining the endresult may be, i fear it will look more like a dadaist collage than a shakespearean play. As to the patent application: "I do know of these that therefore only are reputed wise for saying nothing.", as the Bard has it.

    1. Re:Words, words, words by DexterIsADog · · Score: 1

      Given the fact that automatic translations still frequently produce gibberish, i'm extremely skeptical that these "systems and methods" will produce anything helpfull to the student. However entertaining the endresult may be, i fear it will look more like a dadaist collage than a shakespearean play. As to the patent application: "I do know of these that therefore only are reputed wise for saying nothing.", as the Bard has it.

      If it really did look like a "dadaist collage" then that would ALSO be valuable. A part of every child's education should include the surreal and iconoclastic. The Dada movement was extremely good at that. Also Andy Kaufman.

      How else will people be able to process their experience when they happen on an old urinal in a museum exhibit?

  18. I used their patent to learn using Windows by ctrl-alt-canc · · Score: 3, Funny

    Learning to use Windows is quite boring, so I used their invention to make the task most interesting. I scanned the textbook, but the system returned me a boring image, with the pixels of the very same colour. I guess it is suggesting me to think about the sky or the sea, but I do not understand why...

  19. Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by fuzzybunny · · Score: 4, Informative

    Misleading headline aside, Shakespeare is hilarious.

    Violence, sex, creative insults galore, betrayal, incest, murder, sword fights, pork sword fights, ghosts, and more invented words than you can shake a pork sword at.

    It is awesome and even suggesting that the short attention span squad deserves being pandered to is borderline criminal.

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    Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage
    1. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by redcaboodle · · Score: 1

      Try Ben Jonson instead. You'll lever look back.

      Discussions like this always make me remember my last English teacher at school. It's only literature if there is a four letter word in each sentence. He apologized to us for making us read A midsummer night's dream. When some of us went to see Volpone on a class trip, he announced it as some play by a guy like Shakespeare. I've always wondered what would happen if he actually read something by Poe - his head would probably explode.

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    2. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by fuzzybunny · · Score: 1

      Hey man, Catullus 16 is one of the classics. :D

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      Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage
    3. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      The best adaptation of Shakespeare that I ever saw was Baz Luhrman's Romeo+Juliet. The juxtaposition of the original dialogue in a modern day setting is slightly jarring at first, but then makes it much easier to understand the language than simply reading it or watching a film set in the correct time frame. I actually really enjoyed it, especially the opening sequence and the pool hall scene. Now, the Shakespeare Tavern here in Atlanta put on a pretty good performance of Taming of the Shrew(but of course it is a comedy not a tragedy), but any Shakespeare movie with Kenneth Branaugh needs to die a horrible death. That man overacts way too much.

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    4. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Since schools started teaching it.

      Schools never teach what the plays are about. Romeo and Juliet contains fights, murder, wordplay, and a forbidden romance. Macbeth is actually a pretty tense horror story, where the enormity of the murder constantly haunts the main characters. But teachers are so busy disecting every single line that the actual stoy gets lost.

    5. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you sir; but I bite my thumb, sir.

    6. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

      Misleading headline aside, Shakespeare is hilarious.

      Violence, sex, creative insults galore, betrayal, incest, murder, sword fights, pork sword fights, ghosts, and more invented words than you can shake a pork sword at.

      You forgot the fart jokes.

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    7. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *star flies by*

      The more you knooooooooooooow

    8. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "It is awesome and even suggesting that the short attention span squad deserves being pandered to is borderline criminal."

      The short attention span squad deserve to be ignored, with the exception of job training so they can be useful drones.

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      "This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
    9. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet is one of the worst movies I have ever seen: bad dialogue, bad acting, silly direction. Troma Films' Tromeo and Juliet was surprisingly a better film in pretty much every respect, except perhaps eye candy.

    10. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was kidding about the dialogue, of course. :P

    11. Re:Since when has Shakespeare been boring??? by dlingman · · Score: 1

      It's not. At least not when read in the original Klingon.

  20. Ok, attention-span might be a target problem by jdagius · · Score: 2

    ... but the proposed gadget will likely make the problem worse

  21. Literal Adaptation by gsslay · · Score: 4, Funny

    I used this autogenerated video already for my study of Shakespeare's Hamlet.

    That's how I know about his brave fight against a sea monster called Fortune, despite having come under heavy fire from arrows and sling shots.

    Strange that they always cut that bit out of the film adaptations, I thought it was the most exciting part of the play, even though it didn't seem to make much sense.

    1. Re:Literal Adaptation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wanted to add a kangaroo to that story, but the Bard dismissed my idea and told me to STFU.

    2. Re:Literal Adaptation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same with that dog in Macbeth, Spot they called him, although they were always chasing it out for some reason.

    3. Re:Literal Adaptation by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      No! No! The kangaroo was at the Last Supper!

      You don't want an artist, you want a bloody PHOTOGRAPHER!!!

  22. I tried to read the patent by Chrisq · · Score: 2

    ... and it could definitely be improved with some pictures and captions

  23. Titles this should be Beta Tested on... by Aaron+B+Lingwood · · Score: 1

    Fifty Shades of Grey

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    [Rent This Space]
    1. Re:Titles this should be Beta Tested on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lady Chatterly & Peyton come to mind. Doesn't ring a bell? Ah, but for the olden days...:-)

  24. AWFUL FOR KIDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being able to study and unlock materials from other eras is a skill in itself. The notion that entertainment will help learning is wrong headed. Language skills often depend upon being able to see the artful use of language by others. There is a huge divide as we do not see skillful use of language after radio and television became common. Books published prior to 1930 tend to be much higher quality than what we can find today.
                                Right now the smart phones are eating young people alive. These young folks are getting terse, junk, messages every minute or two from the time they open their eyes until they pass out again at night. Some even receive and respond messages and interrupt their sleep to do so. They don't have five minutes a day in which they can concentrate. They will be useless to themselves and society until they die.

  25. psycologist-nigger by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God says...
    C:\TAD\Text\QUIX.TXT

    any other tongue.

    The history of our English translations of "Don Quixote" is instructive.
    Shelton's, the first in any language, was made, apparently, about 1608,
    but not published till 1612. This of course was only the First Part. It
    has been asserted that the Second, published in 1620, is not the work of
    Shelton, but there is nothing to support the assertion save the fact that
    it has less spirit, less of what we generally understand by "go," about
    it than the first, which would be only natural i

  26. The Classic Bookshop - A Bit Of Fry And Laurie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THbwCeFGN_w

  27. Great idea by Andtalath · · Score: 0

    This is great for kids who have a trouble memorising information from texts.
    I wasn't one of them.

    However, this means that instead of forcing you to memorize through text, you can memorize context through images, this really helps those who learns better by colors and so on.
    Basically, this is color-coding pages ut with even stronger visual sitmuli.

    Fantastic.

    However, trying to use this for literature would be moronic.

  28. Prior art already exists by kruach+aum · · Score: 2

    It's called "imagination."

  29. Re:Prior art again Bill! by flyneye · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd have settled for Key Comics ancient releases of Shakespeares tales.
    Not a new idea Bill. If you had the patent, you'd probably sue a comic book company for that. Shame on you, now go away and stay out of my news.

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  30. Well, I think it's a good idea. by RamiKro · · Score: 2

    After all, even typography is all about making text more readable and beautiful. And that's not too objectionable unless you're an MLA submission committee. I'm sure there was a time when spaces, capital letters and punctuations were debatable as crutches.

    I would personally find use in an algorithm that highlights nouns or verbs to facilitate speeder reading.
    Another idea I have is an eye tracker in an eBook reader that will pick up on you getting stuck on a word and will sound it out for you to hear. If you're still stuck, it could pop up a definition and a thesaurus.

    For little kids and with enough computing power, you can have a Dora animation to do it where appropriate. For all I care you can have clippy too. That much is definitely within Gates' desire.

    So, overall not a bad idea.

  31. Exbiblio? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if I were to implement Exbiblio's technology ( essentially linking text to the internet a la cuecat and other failed attempts at bridging print and the internet ) and it happened to bring up a youtube video would I then be sued by Gates or by whoever has the Exbiblio patents?

    The patent seems like a real mess.. and useless... the product is better protected by copyrighting all the material associated with the given texts. These guys just want to wait and sue whomever puts all the hard work in to actually building something... lazy bastards.. prove me wrong.

  32. Is it just me ... by NikeHerc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    or are these guys trying to reduce knowledge to idiocy?

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    Circle the wagons and fire inward. Entropy increases without bounds.
    1. Re:Is it just me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it just me, or are you (and a bunch of other guys), trying to create a justification for an ivory tower mentality, and dismissing any attempt to actually address people being less of a scholar than you desire as making it dumber?

      The sad thing is, this subject will probably come up in that biopic movie that's a love poem to Steve Jobs and you'll eat it up instead.

    2. Re:Is it just me ... by bluegutang · · Score: 1

      I think they're trying to eliminate imagination and creativity. Why bother to imagine a battle or love affair in your head, when you can press a button and the computer will show you what it looked like?

    3. Re:Is it just me ... by udippel · · Score: 1

      I don't reply to ACs.

    4. Re:Is it just me ... by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      If you had any real imagination, you wouldn't be leaning on someone else's writing as a crutch. Why bother imagining a battle or love affair when you can open a book and be spoon fed the story.

      The complain that video removes imagination, while implying that writing does not is a big helping of "My shade of grey is better than your shade of grey".

  33. Self referencing patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should apply their fantasy tool to the patent transcription to get a glimpse at what it might look like ...

  34. Maybe textbooks are the issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most students who are doing a completely prescribed course of study are either ahead of the group or falling behind. That's just how the numbers are bound to play out.

    So the bright kids are bored because they're waiting, adding videos won't help that. And the dumb kids are bored because they don't follow what's going on. Adding *more* content for them will just slow them down more.

    We need to ditch schools with their one-size-fits-none approach and move to modern teaching techniques, which mean self-paced lectures and study, and come to class to review the material.

    1. Re:Maybe textbooks are the issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TextBooks Expensive!

  35. The internet is for porn by spectrokid · · Score: 2

    Brilliant! Instant porn versions of all masterpieces! My kingdom to be hung like a horse!

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    10 ?"Hello World" life was simple then

  36. It doesn't sound too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'll try and stay awake.

    Hey, is this a kissing book?

  37. From Microsoft - the masters of great UI by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 1

    Given how shoddy Microsoft's interface to computing has been over the decades, I'm nauseated by the idea of the same people creating - and if this patent is granted, controlling - an interface to (some subset of) reality.

    Though it's ironic that people who used to insist text was the only interface the world needed and anyone who wanted more was mentally feeble are now basing a patent application on their ground-breaking insight that text is sometimes limiting.

    I do look forward to all the hilarious ways this latest variation of the intelligent PDA will screw up.

    "It looks like you're trying to murder your father and marry your mother. Would you like help?"

    p.s. The appropriate solution to students finding textbooks boring is better textbooks and a society that demands quality education for its people. What Gates and Myhrvold are attempting to provide is the educational equivalent of an energy drink - instead of true health and fitness.

    p.p.s. Knowing how difficult the process is Gates and Myhrvold are attempting to claim they can implement, I'm surprised TFA didn't include

    BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE FIGURES

    [0011] FIG. 1 and then a miracle occurs.

    1. Re:From Microsoft - the masters of great UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try this instead:

          Fig. 1 We hire someone from Google.

  38. Since when is Shakespeare boring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, really. I'll give you Flaubert, I might concede Joyce and dozens of others, but Will is mayhem, intrigue, sex, war, love and slapstick comedy laid on with a trowel. How on earth did he get this reputation of being boring?

    1. Re:Since when is Shakespeare boring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shakespear isn't boring if you have the mental faculties to translate what is being said. Today though most younger people don't seem to have the mindset to work to get at anything, no matter how good the result (yes that is a gross generalisation, but it is certainly what I observe).

    2. Re:Since when is Shakespeare boring? by udippel · · Score: 1

      It seems there is no Shake-App yet to un-bore our William?

  39. That's not a fucking patent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The claim about the patent in the patent itself is:

    "The systems and methods described herein may then generate a synthesized image sequence of the action occurring in the text."

    NO SUCH THING EXISTS IN THE FUCKING DOCUMENT!!!!!!!

    It's just talking about "you take some text, right, then you make some images, right, and then it'll be interesting, right?". There is no system or method describing the algorithm that generates the image.

    This would be like Samsung having a patent on the mobile phone that was "Have a small phone-like device without a wire to a landline, but instead using radio waves (or any other emission spectrum) to do what the wire did in a non mobile phone".

  40. Next they will patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Means and method of utilising arousing media to motivate study.

    Claim 1.  A device attached to a screen containing p*graph*c material for the purpose of claim 2.
    Claim 2.  An automated question and answer system to check the student has read and understood the material, for the purpose of claim 3.
    Claim 3.  For each standard hour of study completed, the student accumulates 10 p*n*y minutes.
    Claim 4.  The device in claim 1 may then be used to cash in p*n*y minutes for the ability to watch actual p*n*y of the equivalent length.

  41. Copyright Violation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a programmed interpretation of the text the video would be a translation and would require payment to the copyright holder. It would not be need for Shakespear. But more modern works would require some sort of payment. As a proponent cf media rights I am sure Mr Gates would design a system that would fully protect all authors.

    1. Re:Copyright Violation by gx5000 · · Score: 1

      The chance of this being used to censor and rewrite materials that some find offensive is staggering....

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  42. This has Microsoft Songsmith fail all over it by howardd21 · · Score: 1

    I can only imagine the carnage this will do...ala songsmith another genius idea to generate art forms of some sort. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxqMpGAL3I

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  43. Geeks seek a patent to .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Geeks Seeking Patent To Make Bill Gates Less Boring

    China Seeking Patent To Make Everyone Believe Tibet is Part of China. *fails since 1949*

    Obama Seeking Patent To Make Everyone forget The Constitution

    NSA Seeking Patent To Make Everyone a Terrorist

    Willie Coyote Seeking Patent To Make Road Runner Less Speedie

    Authors seeking to make fiction more incredible, as fact keeps getting weirder

    All we are saying, is give peace a chance! :-)

    GreekGeek

  44. Electronic crutches == lack of imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The whole point of reading this stuff rather than watching a performance is to use your imagination, not to wave your phone over the text and have it do the work for you. If you find your imagination "boring" then you have a more serious problem that won't be corrected by handing you electronic crutches. Do that, and you'll never learn to walk on your own, because you don't have to.

  45. Sounds like a dumb idea ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    Yes, make it so kids can't read a book without a smartphone to keep them entertained.

    Our kids can apparently barely read now, and writing with a pen is becoming something they don't know how to do.

    I don't think we need a room full of kids on smart phones scanning Shakespeare to get entertaining images. We need a room full of kids who can actually sit through a class without using their smartphone, and who can actually read and write.

    I don't see this improving that any. This is just more shiny stuff to make sure the kids grow up with ADHD and can't function without a smartphone.

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    1. Re:Sounds like a dumb idea ... by The+Cat · · Score: 1

      Somewhere in America, a father is grabbing the phone out of the hands of his teenage daughter and hurling it over the house into a flood control channel.

      The entire neighborhood is giving him a standing ovation as he walks back into the house in slow motion.

  46. Next patent by chepati · · Score: 2

    for pre-chewing food.

    Have we become so lazy that now we can't be bothered to read the text and visualize it ourselves, but have to rely on a computer algorithm to generate a video of its interpretation of the said text? This is the magic of the written word, that it stimulates our brain to build an entire world and populate it with locales and characters, to breathe life into a seemingly dead medium. The intellectual effort is the exercise that keeps our brain fit, that enables it to improve. You take that away and you're left with just a passive observation, ie a movie.

    Species this lazy does not deserve to reproduce and consume resources.

  47. Stop right there by gx5000 · · Score: 1

    SO we're hanging around Spielberg and Locas I see. DOn't stop to consider that these works lose much after being "tranmogriphied", but this could also be used to make MSNBC sound like FOX news at the touch of a button. No thanks. It's no longer classical literature once it's been that badly abridged.

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  48. Hold on a second... by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

    Is he trying to get a patent on using your imagination to turn words into movies (on a smartphone)? I'm pretty sure that there's prior art for this in everybody who has ever read narrative fiction, and a lot of incomplete yet relevant prior art in the oral tradition as well.

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  49. Don't give the schools any more ideas by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Just wait for it having to buy the book + a school cell phone plan and school phone + with apps. At the high college prices.

    We need to get rid of the over priced books that come with online testing sites as well.

  50. Hey Bob, nice to see you again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I think MS Bob has a better chance than this one...

  51. Re:Prior art again Bill! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It did strange things, to my guitar building textbook.

    I think it may have been the phrase "Ebony Stiffeners".

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    Never been known to fail..."
  52. Imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Over 42 years ago, this allegedly innovative feature was perfected when I was born with an imagination.

  53. Novel? by Qzukk · · Score: 1

    I go to look at the patent and over 90% of the claims were canceled (seriously there are 39 claims left, numbered 397-453, with gaps in the middle). What's left is basically what xtranormal used to do, with OCR bolted on the front end.

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  54. Creating laziness and ilitteratcy by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    (and people who have trouble spelling ilitteratcy).

    So, if this comes out, students no longer have an incentive to read - they just take their smart phone to class, take a picture of their books, and Bing returns youtube videos? Thanks a lot, Bill Gates, for killing reading and reading comprehension!

    1. Re:Creating laziness and ilitteratcy by jetkust · · Score: 1

      Having a better understanding of what you are reading does not create laziness and illiteracy. It creates better understanding, which more likely will lead to more interest in reading.

    2. Re:Creating laziness and ilitteratcy by udippel · · Score: 1

      Hmm. You don't fully convince me here.
      Of course, understanding what you read makes a huge difference. But Shakespeare - as an example - is not exactly something that lives from 'understanding'. It is not fantastic as plot as such. 'Understanding' the plot can easily distract from the intention. Man, we are not discussing technology here, but arts. The old Rembrandt is not 'understood' when you point out that it is a somewhat foggy image of a man with a hat. And the Tempest isn't a realistic voyage of a sailor who gets caught in a storm.
      I for one wished our schools were much more active in the non-business-oriented layer in between, the one that creates a deep link with arts.

  55. Just another stop on the elevator by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

    to the bottom which is US education system - led by the "we must fix it!" crowd. I suspect most adults, let alone high school students, could not pass an exam given to 8th graders a century ago. This notion that everything must be easy to learn and nothing ever boring is the most evil kind of fantasy.

  56. Translate to a picture book... On a phone by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    This is a great fucking idea. So instead of teaching kids to read and comprehend they can use their phone to translate text into a picture book. Why not just translate it to SMS:

    2 be, o not 2 be: dat iz d ?:

    wethR 'tis nobler n d mind 2 suffer

    d slings & arrows of mad GL,

    o 2 tAk arms agAnst a C of SOS,

    & by opposing nd dem? 2 die: 2 slp;

    n mo; & by a slp 2 sA we nd

    d hart-ache & d thou natRL shocks

    dat flesh iz heir to, 'tis a nd goal

    1. Re:Translate to a picture book... On a phone by udippel · · Score: 1

      Wow. And I have no mod points. :-(

    2. Re:Translate to a picture book... On a phone by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      You joke, but knowing how to decipher SMS speak into regular English is a more useful skill than learning to translate Old English into regular English. Shakespeare is an Old English equivalent of Southpark. Entertaining in it's time. Loaded with low brow comedy. Frequently carries a message. Just not that important in the long run.

  57. Hilarity ensues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one am sure the results will be entertaining, but not due to the content. Rather in the way it was generated.

  58. Re:Prior art again Bill! by Notabadguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not prior art that concerns me, it's the intentional rewriting of history.

    History 101, post Bill-Gates Video Learning:

    Final Exam Essay: Describe the Battle of Waterloo:

    In 1815, an Imperial French army under the command of Emperor Jean-Claude Van Damm was defeated by the armies of the Dirrrty South, comprised of a coalition of Lil Jon and East Side Boyz, Britney Spears, and Leonidas' 300. Emperor Van Damm's Universal Soldiers blitzkrieged the 300, who's phalanx withstood repeated attacks until Lil Jon got crunk up in there and broke through and skeeted up the French lines. Britney Spears' forces then hit that baby one more time.

    Citation: Video textbook.

  59. What makes this less boring, exactly? by Michael_gr · · Score: 1

    So, there's some boring textbook, and you scan a line, and some shitty algorithm (probably based on Bing search technology) generates some sort of vaguely-related video. How does that make the book any less boring? Videos are not inherently interesting - they are only interesting if they are made interesting by a human creator. This invention would just add a boring video to the boring text. What little interest can be extracted from this will be derived from the process's failures and unintended hilarious misinterpretations. They might as well try to patent "doodling on the margins" for all the good this is going to do.

  60. The Penthouse Forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would really come to life with this idea.
    Who is this Shake speare guy?
    Related to Brittany?

  61. God forbid ... by Rambo+Tribble · · Score: 1

    ... the little dears should be required to develop an imagination. This is a giant leap forward in producing human automatons.

  62. Obviates the need for reading by whizbang77045 · · Score: 1

    You don't need to be able to read. Your computer will do it for you.

  63. Anti-Intellectual bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never found Shakespeare boring. Centuries later, his plays are still some of the best ever written.

    Stupid people find Shakespeare boring. The kind of people that belong on Reddit, not Slashdot.

    Derp derp thinking is hard!

    1. Re:Anti-Intellectual bullshit by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      Before you make blanket statements about communities like Reddit, I would recommend you check out some subreddits like /r/programming or /r/compsci. Slashdot is not as great as you think it is.

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      Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
    2. Re:Anti-Intellectual bullshit by jetkust · · Score: 1

      Yes, you are intelligent because you like Shakespeare. Keep telling yourself that...

    3. Re:Anti-Intellectual bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go back to your child porn and kitty cat memes.

    4. Re:Anti-Intellectual bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He said "anti-intellectual," not "unintelligent." It's more about aesthetic and moral sensibility than raw intelligence, whatever either of those may be.

      Some people think that working through something foreign is worthwhile in-and-of itself, whether it's code or literature. If you want, just read "Shakespeare" as "writing assembly language" and this non-invention as "cut-and-pasting someone else's Javascript."

    5. Re:Anti-Intellectual bullshit by The+Cat · · Score: 1

      Reddit is a motherfucking shitpond.

    6. Re:Anti-Intellectual bullshit by jetkust · · Score: 1

      He said stupid people think Shakespeare is boring... It's pretty cut and dry. And I don't see how your analogy fits. They are not creating anything. And it doesn't even have anything to do with Shakespeare. They are given a more elaborate explanation of what they are reading in textbooks. People are hung up on the past believing everyone should learn things the way they learned things. As technology advances, so should the way we learn as well as what we learn.

  64. Titus Andronicus for the pwn! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I also wanted to comment on the suggestion that someone would want to substitute family members into Shakespearean plays. I don't think that whoever wrote that part of the patent text has read any Shakespeare.

    Well, it won't likely be PG13 if your father hacks up your brothers to make pastry in order to serve it to your mother while stabbing your sister who was raped and got her tongue and hands cut off by your brothers...

    That's not "Parental Guidance 13" because your parents would get nightmares.

    In other news, "Titus Andronicus" is pretty sick stuff. I don't think it could markably be improved by topical video clips, even if you dismember your own family.

  65. Dumming down of young generation Bill Gates way by necode · · Score: 0

    Dumming down of young generation Bill Gates way.
    Everybody wins: young people entertain themseelves into idiocy while their parents spend even less time with their kids and Bill Gates gets richer.

  66. Starring Arnie as Hamlet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Something's rotten in the state of Denmark, and Hamlet's taking out the trash!

  67. Lost in Translation by midifarm · · Score: 1

    What's lost here is the poetry. You don't read Shakespeare simply for the story, you read it for the eloquence of the writer. Cyrano de Bergerac would be whittled down to Roxanne. This is a bad idea. Why are we always trying to dumb down everything? Let him make the product and let it fail, but don't give him a patent.

  68. Shakespear can be boring. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try something like Henry VIII or Pericles, Prince of Tyre. Booooring. It's just about four handfuls of plays that are actually good. Come to think of it, about the same number as the number of "Asterix" comic volumes that are good (a decline for the last volumes scripted by Goscinny, then an abyss of bore after his death).

  69. rewriting history by Locutus · · Score: 1

    It's been said many times that Bill Gates likes to rewrite history to fit his reality, this sounds like yet another avenue for him to do so. If they ever figure it out and produce something then expect lots of very interesting book reviews in schools of the Microsoft employees kids forced to use it.

    LoB

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    1. Re:rewriting history by retchdog · · Score: 1
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  70. With apologies to you-know-who: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The way it functioned was very interesting. When the Video button was pressed it made an instant but highly detailed examination of the play's subjects, a psychological analysis of the subjects' behaviors and then sent tiny experimental signals down the neural pathways to the taste centers of the reader's brain to see what was likely to go down well. However, no one knew quite why it did this because it invariably delivered a screenful of images that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike horse porn.

  71. Bad patent system. by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

    With certain things, the devil is in the details. I think this is one of those. I could patent "method to bring a person to Mars and back" but there are a lot lot lot of steps between writing "put them on rocket, send, have them come back" on a piece of paper and getting Chris Rock there and back safely (why Chris Rock? why not?).

    Remember for Apollo, they had a few ways of getting people to the moon and back. What if someone had patented "method to get someone to the moon, somehow, someway" then waited for someone to Idunno, actually do it. Think of all the actual work involved, the Mercury/Gemini programs that were stepping stones, the new materials, the money, the build out of the space centers in Houston and Florida (pork barrel spending at its finest) but i could have put a wrench in the works by having some overworked underpaid patent clerk that stamped some piece of paper that said "method to convey someone to the moon and back".

  72. Missing Thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What no one's mentioned is the possibilities of mis/re-interpreting the content to nefarious ends.

  73. Wrong Premise by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    Shakespeare is not boring; far from it. If your language skills aren't up to it, study.

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  74. A brave new world by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

    A world in which technology takes over the job of your imagination. I used to read things and create still and moving pictures within my mind, but soon my phone will be able to do it for me!

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    Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
  75. Zero invention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With software, the only WORK that matters is producing a useful implementation. The old "you might do X at some point in the future, vaguely using the methods Y and Z" represents no form of invention whatsoever, and should NEVER be liable for patent protection.

    Using pre-existing pattern rules to convert one form of data to another, via massive databases of pre-existing media, would be obvious to a particularly dull-witted 12-year-old who has been introduced to the concept of coding only a few months earlier. A piece of garbage like Gates (who works daily to push the police state via his NSA partnership, and his sickening inBloom 'every child monitored' database currently rolling out in NY and elsewhere) uses his political influence to claim ownership of obvious, nebulous, generic concepts. Gates is one of the Earth's truly evil people.

  76. I would love to see the view for... by dskoll · · Score: 1

    You blocks, you stones, you worse than senseless things! (Julius Caesar)

    'Zounds, sir, you're robb'd; for shame, put on your gown; Your heart is burst, you have lost half your soul; Even now, now, very now, an old black ram Is topping your white ewe. Arise, arise; Awake the snorting citizens with the bell, Or else the devil will make a grandsire of you: Arise, I say. (Othello)

    What could possibly go wrong? :)

  77. Really? by Jmac217 · · Score: 1

    What an awful idea. Microsoft has really hit rock bottom haven't they...

  78. and that sucking sound is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...imagination, as it circles the drain

  79. We already have these... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    They're called Teachers. I took British Literature back in high school and in college. In high school, I had a dynamic teacher that made Shakespeare exciting and cause for much classroom participation and discussion.

    Later in college, the professor created a boring environment "delving into the meaning behind the meaning behind the meaning" of individual words and phrases that the classroom turned into a snoozefest.

       

  80. Prior Art by Rorgg · · Score: 1

    This fellow from Stratford made Shakespeare not boring with live video depictions of his plays around 1600, give or take 15 years.

  81. Autogenerating.. by djyrn3715 · · Score: 1

    I imagine auto generating video is more than linking previously created video based upon content? Seems to me that StudyBlue.com already does that. I'm trying to picture the auto-generated video and all I get in my head is an image of Max Headroom reading lines with some background images of Europe.

  82. Gates and Myhrvold? by Theaetetus · · Score: 1

    Odd pairing, considering that Myhrvold is no longer with Microsoft, but, of course, runs Intellectual Ventures. Interestingly, this application isn't a continuation, and was filed in 2012.

  83. That's not "engaged" by holophrastic · · Score: 1

    That's called disengaging. Holding a book and looking at your phone isn't being engaged in the book any more than holding the book was being engaged in the play.

    It is possible to just not like something. It's perfectly ok to not like something. Stop giving me the same carp in a different format. I still don't like it.

  84. Legal Document Applications? by lubaciousd · · Score: 1

    I wonder if an eventual goal of this fork of work is to expand to technical or legal documents? It seems like there could be a real can of worms opened when people cruising through EULAs and mortgages using the summary media generated. Who would be liable for a miscommunication?

  85. ...on a computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So this is proposing to patent the process that movie producers/directors go through, only "on a computer".

    I'll believe it when I see a working implementation.

  86. I'd like a version in modern English by peter303 · · Score: 1

    I get the gist of the plays, but only about 95% of the words. The 5% are either no longer used or changed meaning substantially.

  87. Blasphemous. by kheldan · · Score: 1

    I find this whole idea to be utterly blasphemous and repugnant. For fuck's sake, you want people to be exposed to the works of Shakespeare? Go see a play! If they're more interested after that then they'll sit still to read the scripts later!

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  88. R&J by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1
    Romeo - yo! Romeo - why you such a dick?

    Juliet, lissen beyotch, yer fam is like wack. I juss wanna make love to you babeeee! And we can commit sewer pipes! Yo! That'll teach those mofos ya can't stop luv! Buncha fuckin HATERS!

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  89. Scribblenauts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill Gates has decided to wage war against WB Games by going after Scribblenauts!

  90. Does it come with Brawndo? Idiocracy, here we come by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    How about conducing some actual scientific studies and adding to mankind's understanding of the brain and learning instead of patents for baseless education tools.

    I bet that such a device HARMS CHILDREN. If you can't read and imagine you are mentally crippled... Not just in school but especially in the so-called "real world." If you are entertained by fairly thoughtless disjointed animations distracting your reading then you have a really low IQ or you are a CS intrigued by complexity of replacing a team of disney animators with a spam filter AI.

  91. Perfect name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The imagination killer.

  92. Hilarious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Shakespeare example is hilarious. I believe there is already a tried and true methodology for making plays less boring then reading the text in book form. I've heard it can be quite dramatic, involving live performers on a stage.

  93. Then teach how to find plot holes by tepples · · Score: 2

    Your beloved play does not hold up to cursory scrutiny.

    If William Shakespeare's plays are as overrated as you claim, then high school literature teachers are doing their students a disservice in not showing them how to find plot holes like this.

    1. Re:Then teach how to find plot holes by bfandreas · · Score: 1

      It's Romeo and juliet that is absolutely overrated. You will also need to put the plays into the historical context. Friedrich Schiller for instance had read and watched(IIRC even translated) a lot of Shakespeare. So he benefitted from another lifetime of experience. Both of them were showmen and also needed to get bums on seats. Both of them wrote stuff which was mainly entertaining but nevertheless noteworthy.

      Just leave the theatre after Mercutio has died. It improves the play.

      --
      20 minutes into the future
  94. Re:Prior art again Bill! by WheezyJoe · · Score: 1

    until Lil Jon got crunk up in there and broke through and skeeted up the French lines. Britney Spears' forces then hit that baby one more time

    LOL. Where are my mod points when I need them? :D

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  95. Shocking! And Unnecessary! by mendax · · Score: 1

    When I was in high school what I needed was "a good teacher" to help me over the rough bits of language. But as I got older I find I have very little trouble understanding Shakespeare when I have a good dictionary at hand to help me with the words, and that, my friends, is the only electronic help anyone needs.

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    It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
  96. Re: Pretenciousness hurts my head thingy by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

    what is the point of language gymnastics, you can change the syntax all you want but the semantics are the same, why waste brain cells translating ancient english to modern english. Computers were invented to do all this mundane stuff for us, if a computer can imagine stuff for me too let it.

    also this "invention"is the obvios precursor to the holodeck.

    Without computer:
    "Imagine a vast desert with a bird circling overhead, wind whistling through the dunes, and a dazed alien waking up after crash landing.
    Zoom out.
    Little Eddie sees something tiny wriggling around in his sandbox and decides to see what it tastes like."

    If you have any modicum of imagination, part of what's interesting about that is how your brain has to do a few mental flips as the text rolls along and the mental context shifts. Not to mention that if asked to draw or animate the above, everyone would draw something different.

    Now imagine if a computer tried to animate that text based on the text alone, and did it the same way for everyone who read it.

    The elegance of the holodeck was that it tended to have actual objects pinned, but exactly how they looked and even to some degree how they interacted with the virtual environment was dependent on the experiences and imagination of the participants. This described tool provides none of that.

    Now, if it combined sketch2photo with someone's own personal data set (facebook, etc) and used THAT to generate an animation, that would partially solve half the problem. But unless a lot of pre-parsing goes into it, to extract the original author's intent in context shifts and convert that to the animation somehow, there's still an unsolved half of a problem looming in the room.

    Basically, the system would have to be an expert not only in the literature domain being read, but also in the experience domain of the reader. Possible, but not covered by this patent.

  97. Err by The+Cat · · Score: 1

    Isn't this copyright infringement? Creating a derivative work is an exclusive right belonging to a copyright owner.

    1. Re:Err by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Forget the "derivative work" business, you're taking a picture of the text with a cellphone. That's unauthorized reproduction, just as people are always getting warned about making photocopies of book sections.

  98. Re:Prior art again Bill! by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

    I guess the Swedish Chef is in patent violation?

  99. Broader problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Short-term effort shows the results reasonably quickly, good or bad. Long-term effort is a difficult thing to justify in our busy lives, so many people avoid it, whether that be consistent exercise, working on a hobby that will take months to produce something half-decent, or indeed, building any skills that aren't strictly necessary to survive.

    Even this analysis assumes that achieving goals is the only reason to do anything. Thus exercise is inherently unappealing because, when viewed as a means to an end, the end is generally only achievable in the long term. However, doing things that make you fit and healthy can be enjoyable in their own right, from the very minute you begin.

    In the same vein, the process of learning a skill can and should be enjoyable, even if it takes a long time to become a master.

    IMO, the larger problem is that people have been conditioned to view gratification as the their primary goal, and the sooner the better. This attitude is a "feature" of a consumer culture.

    BTW, You talk about our "busy lives", but almost nobody is ever too busy to watch TV for multiple hours a day, or idly surf the internet. People complain about being pulled in too many directions, but almost nobody is too harried to add cramming processed foods down their gullet to their slate. We are not busy or overwhelmed, per se, but our attention has been efficiently captivated by consumption.

    1. Re:Broader problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just wanted to say thank you for writing up exactly what I was thinking. Your point of how this is all symptomatic of our current culture of consumption especially resonates with me. We are being taught/brainwashed into believing that you can only have pleasure from consuming a product, when, in fact, the entire process of production (production, recording, and consumption) should be regarded as a whole process wherein every step generates pleasure. You cannot separate the three stages of the process of production without having disastrous effects on society by fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of economic production. This is something that Marx wrote about in Das Kapital, and Deleuze expanded upon much more in the first part of Anti-Oedipus, if you're interested in reading more about it.

  100. Or, you could just watch a production of it... by MattBD · · Score: 1

    Surely the way to make Shakespeare less boring is to let schoolkids see a production of a Shakespeare play, rather than have them read the script? If it was written as a play, people should experience it primarily as one. Maybe after they've seen it, there's some value to going back and looking at the dialogue, but only afterwards. There have been some wonderful productions of Shakespeare plays - I really enjoyed the production of Hamlet with David Tennant and Patrick Stewart that was televised a few years ago.

  101. Bad Mod by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

    Troll? Dafuq?

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  102. Microsoft Bob, version 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aha, always frugal, Bill wants to find a use for all the artwork created for Microsoft Bob.

  103. Ooops! Anthony Weiner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, what if some kid in the future is reading about Anthony Weiner in a text book and... AH! That can't be unseen!

  104. Clippy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has Clippy and Bob written all over it

  105. a GOOD POINT by hurfy · · Score: 1

    ..."synthesized image sequence"...

    So point it at manga....instant anime

    Funimation and their ilk may not be to happy with Bill tho!

    Will it add sound? I can't imagine kids being terribly entertained/engrossed with a silent anime version of Shakespeare clips and trying to add their own dialog !!!

    He seems to be missing step 3. ??? just like we do also tho.

  106. This makes by Trikenstein · · Score: 1

    me wish he'd go back to making commercials with Seinfeld

  107. Dandelion Wine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Machines, while not the main theme or motif, do convey a side theme on how technology, no matter how well-crafted or intentioned, is no replacement for human interactions with nature and community, a common theme in Bradbury's works.

    The first example of this is when Grandpa tells Bill that a tidy lawn is no compensation for the loss of the simple pleasure of mowing the grass and also the elimination of dandelions, "weeds" valuable in their own way. While Bill initially sees the invention of grass that stays the same length as a time saver, Grandpa embraces the longer and old-fashioned methods because they let him work with his hands and with nature, something a physical invention cannot emulate.

  108. School's mission? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    I thought school's first mission was to teach children how to read, write and count. If I understand the idea correctly, this is a method to make them consume information without having to read. If that is the goal, then it belongs to leisure activity rather than school, IMO.

  109. Is it April 1st Again Already? by tofarr · · Score: 1

    Or did they actually file a patent for something they have no idea how to build (probably while high as balls).

    Maybe this was done ironically to show what's wrong with the patent system?

    Fat chance...

  110. Patent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this footage of Bill Gates text to movie patent? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruf0Fl_MZvQ

  111. The New Henry V by Dabido · · Score: 1

    My first thought was he was going to do this:

    Think when we talk of horses, that you see them
    Printing their proud hoofs i' the receiving earth;
    And when we say car chase, that you see them too,
    Drive fast and furiously down a runway for six minutes with explosions and a giant reptile smashing through the city ... er ...

    But now I realise it was this:

    Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more

    Image of a fisting pops up on the screen.

    Student: Daddy, I don't want to learn Shakespeare any more, it hurts my eyes and brain!

    --
    Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)
  112. Patenting the Dumbing Down of America by kattisch · · Score: 1

    I love it. It's so much better to patent methods of dumbing down an already dumbed down America than to try challenging the dormant brain and patenting methods to challenge the dumbed down brain so it won't be quite so dumbed down.

  113. Re:Prior art again Bill! by vandamme · · Score: 1

    There's an "e" on the end of Van Damme. Dank U.

  114. How about by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

    How about making Shakespeare less boring and NOT seeking a patent. I mean, you have all the money already.

  115. Bill Gates patent by carys689 · · Score: 1

    Maybe Bill Gates should seek a patent on making Bill Gates less boring.

  116. If this is actually necessary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this is actually necessary the students are 100% write-offs, utterly worthless and it's simply a waste of effort to try to educate them further. Let them flip burgers because they can't possible do any job of value because those all that require integrating information from writing as writing (as well as any other media).

  117. Ugh !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real proof is in the original word and format. It is a shameful disgrace to dumb down genius.
      Jeff e. / Colorado Springs

  118. patient and copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i have come accross a book that has been digitalised by microsoft , my concern is as that book was borrowed from a public library , who owns the content of the book ? the same goes for shakespeare , anything that has been written ! it seems to me that , this is about getting something for next to nothing , and making a fortune out of it . i am also in total agreement with BrokenHalo and others on this subject . perih60

  119. That won't make Shakespeare any less boring by MichaelSprague · · Score: 1

    Shakespeare is inherently fascinating or boring, mostly depending on two factors. First, your level of understanding of the specific text in question, and secondly, your level of interest in the human condition. If you have a high level of interest on the second and a good understanding of any given Shakespearean work on the other, you are likely to find it fascinating, as Shakespeare dealt in timeless themes that play well in any gifted dramatist's hands.

    What Mr. Gates seems to be proposing is certainly an interesting idea, judging it from nothing but this short blurb, but it sounds like an instant movie generation device, not a boredom eliminator. I have seen way too many boring movies and probably as many poorly written pieces of software to have any hope that an instantly generated movie will liven up the bard more than a stage or movie crew doing it up right can. Moreover, I have my doubts about auto-generated content drawn from anything coming out compelling anytime soon. Replacing Shakespeare is an especially daunting sounding challenge.

    Really, this sounds like it hopes to do for the liberal arts what portable calculators did in the 1970's for math pograms: allow students to turn off their brains and get A's without ever understanding the material in any substantial way.

    If that works, which, again, seems unlikely, the results seem unlikely to be really positive.

    imo. humble or otherwise.

  120. Re:Prior art again Bill! by flyneye · · Score: 1

    I just use two pieces of kite CF beneath the fretboard. Ebony is expensive.

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  121. Whate evr happened to.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jesus - I had no idea you could patent science fiction as future fact. Would all of our Sci-Fi literature count as prior art?
    Seriously - isn't there still a requirement for a demonstrably functional model?
    Fucking software patents will bury this industry under a layer of lawyers.

  122. Re:Prior art again Bill! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

    Hey! Another guitar/bass builder, on /. ! Who'da thunk it?

    Especially on a bad, joke comment.

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    Never been known to fail..."
  123. Huh? by ncmathsadist · · Score: 1

    Shakespeare? Boring?? What?

  124. i like people who never grow old by KingBenny · · Score: 1

    they should rule the world but their egos wont let them leave their ceo state of mind i suppose
    maybe its evolution and the ones needing less visual stimulation are the ones more capable of
    processing
    or maybe overpopulation has a tendency to produce more useless units from a biological point of view
    or maybe if you get too many people, the soul of the universe needs to spread too much
    or maybe
    i just talk too much right, thats why i hardly reply to someone ever, the base losing means we are heading for a dark age that much should be clear, its the inquisition coming up all over again

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