No, I don't miss the point - I am thinking of the real world, the average Joe doesnt care if he's using the geeks choice of browser - he just wants to look at his web sites, if mozilla can't do as good a job as IE then there will be limited uptake of it.
As I said in my post - I want it to succeed.
I really want mozilla to succeed but I'm worried. I am disappointed in the DHTML support mostly - its a step backwards. Sure supporting standards is good but backward compatibility would be very nice. Mozilla should be trying to be so good that you start seeing "Mozilla 6 needed" on web sites rather than the current "you must have Internet Explorer to view this site".
Don't forget that thanks to the pace of Linux development some of that gigabyte of software is allready out of date by the time you get hold of the distribution anyway!
A lot of people I know who use computers every day (though not power users like most/. readers) never use an application in anything but full screen mode and it makes me wonder when microsoft will stop allowing resizable windows because it "confuses users".
That aside 3D would be cool if for no other reason than for geek bragging rights
Look, I can't resist saying this - but you seem to be exactly the kind of person they should prevent a child prodigy becoming.
I was unpopular at school because I didnt fit in, but at the same time there were people who were intelligent and popular, because they had social skills! You have this arrogant attitude that everyone hates you because you are intelligent, well wake up friend its because your social skills blow. Now I'm older I notice the difference - I still don't fit in and I know now that its not because I'm better than everyone else its because i'm worse - I'm a social animal with no social skills.....
You know, i'd like to think the same thing - that evolution has made us more or less perfect. The truth is stranger than that, why are women born with 200,000 eggs but don't live long enough to actually use them? What about (recently on slashdot here) the fact that the human genome contains latrge amounts of apparently junk material?
I believe in evolutions ability to produce optimal creatures but either what we think is optimal is not optimal for evolution - after all humans living forever is bad for evolution, how does the race evolve if we dont die?
Hell yeah!
Erm, they can't get this "web" thing outside America can they?
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Yeah I realised after posting some smart alec would point out you can get Gimp for windows:-)
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If you mean an X server (dont forget the twisted client/server naming in X) then there are ones for windows. There are free ones but the one that I can remember is Kea X from attachmate. Its way cool having the gimp on your windows desktop as if its another application.
Not X but useful is VNC which lets you view linux desktops.
Yeah some people I knew actually recorded their login name/pass in these keys! Actually I loved those keyboards, you rarely hit the wrong keys as you got nice feedback from them and the keys were fractionally larger.
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OMG - CODE tags. *sigh*
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Look, if you are going to use PRE tags (annoying to look at IMHO) then at least try to understand how they work....
Yeah mine sometimes spins up the fecking CD drive too, I think if you've ever accessed a page on your CD drive it does it. Even if it doesnt its not instantaneous. As with all windows things it probably depends on how long its been since you installed windows:-)
Yeah Dilbert seems to do a lot of his research in my company.
I can identify with the "working on projects that will later be cancelled". Often I am asked to work on something which is later cancelled without even being told its cancelled!
My technique is being slow to start new projects - that way they can be cancelled before I start work on them:-)
Some sound cards tie up an extra IRQ for DOS support, but you can choose not to install this functionality (at least I did on the last two comps I built).
The problems with limited IRQ's are IMHO usually made worse by windows pissing around with them.
Your ISP doesnt support Linux? Or it just SAYS it doesnt support it because it doesnt know what Linux is.
Many clothing garments say "dry clean only" not because they need to be dry cleaned but because the manufacturer hasnt bothered making sure they will fare well in a normal machine - its the same principle.
Hm, long time since i've played warhammer 40k. I assume this is a "death spinner" but I seem to remember a weapon that was more like a bayonet pushed into the enemy which then behaved like a monofilament garden strimmer inside the enemies body.... fun fun fun.
I miss playing 40k:-(
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No, I don't miss the point - I am thinking of the real world, the average Joe doesnt care if he's using the geeks choice of browser - he just wants to look at his web sites, if mozilla can't do as good a job as IE then there will be limited uptake of it.
As I said in my post - I want it to succeed.
I really want mozilla to succeed but I'm worried. I am disappointed in the DHTML support mostly - its a step backwards. Sure supporting standards is good but backward compatibility would be very nice.
Mozilla should be trying to be so good that you start seeing "Mozilla 6 needed" on web sites rather than the current "you must have Internet Explorer to view this site".
Don't forget that thanks to the pace of Linux development some of that gigabyte of software is allready out of date by the time you get hold of the distribution anyway!
A lot of people I know who use computers every day (though not power users like most /. readers) never use an application in anything but full screen mode and it makes me wonder when microsoft will stop allowing resizable windows because it "confuses users".
That aside 3D would be cool if for no other reason than for geek bragging rights
Look, I can't resist saying this - but you seem to be exactly the kind of person they should prevent a child prodigy becoming.
I was unpopular at school because I didnt fit in, but at the same time there were people who were intelligent and popular, because they had social skills! You have this arrogant attitude that everyone hates you because you are intelligent, well wake up friend its because your social skills blow.
Now I'm older I notice the difference - I still don't fit in and I know now that its not because I'm better than everyone else its because i'm worse - I'm a social animal with no social skills.....
You know, i'd like to think the same thing - that evolution has made us more or less perfect.
The truth is stranger than that, why are women born with 200,000 eggs but don't live long enough to actually use them? What about (recently on slashdot here) the fact that the human genome contains latrge amounts of apparently junk material?
I believe in evolutions ability to produce optimal creatures but either what we think is optimal is not optimal for evolution - after all humans living forever is bad for evolution, how does the race evolve if we dont die?
Hell yeah!
Erm, they can't get this "web" thing outside America can they?
Yeah I realised after posting some smart alec would point out you can get Gimp for windows :-)
If you mean an X server (dont forget the twisted client/server naming in X) then there are ones for windows. There are free ones but the one that I can remember is Kea X from attachmate. Its way cool having the gimp on your windows desktop as if its another application.
Not X but useful is VNC which lets you view linux desktops.
You could make it more difficult by using a pass phrase that you commonly use in normal computing. :-)
"killall netscape" perhaps
Yeah some people I knew actually recorded their login name/pass in these keys!
Actually I loved those keyboards, you rarely hit the wrong keys as you got nice feedback from them and the keys were fractionally larger.
OMG - CODE tags. *sigh*
Look, if you are going to use PRE tags (annoying to look at IMHO) then at least try to understand how they work....
Yeah mine sometimes spins up the fecking CD drive too, I think if you've ever accessed a page on your CD drive it does it. Even if it doesnt its not instantaneous. As with all windows things it probably depends on how long its been since you installed windows :-)
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Not that great IMHO
Apt is a great thing that helps make debian what it is. Availability to other dists can only be a good thing
Yeah Dilbert seems to do a lot of his research in my company. :-)
I can identify with the "working on projects that will later be cancelled". Often I am asked to work on something which is later cancelled without even being told its cancelled!
My technique is being slow to start new projects - that way they can be cancelled before I start work on them
The more encrypted traffic the better.
if theres only a few encrypted mails theres more chance they will look suspicious.
Sorry I am clearly shit at my own language. Next time I will get of my arse and look at a dictionary before posting.
Do you mean "trawl" or have our friendly american cousins been making up words again?
Some sound cards tie up an extra IRQ for DOS support, but you can choose not to install this functionality (at least I did on the last two comps I built).
The problems with limited IRQ's are IMHO usually made worse by windows pissing around with them.
Your ISP doesnt support Linux? Or it just SAYS it doesnt support it because it doesnt know what Linux is.
Many clothing garments say "dry clean only" not because they need to be dry cleaned but because the manufacturer hasnt bothered making sure they will fare well in a normal machine - its the same principle.
Compared to the rising popularity of open source software that you can OWN for FREE this will soon look like the poor deal it is.
Hm, long time since i've played warhammer 40k. I assume this is a "death spinner" but I seem to remember a weapon that was more like a bayonet pushed into the enemy which then behaved like a monofilament garden strimmer inside the enemies body.... fun fun fun. :-(
I miss playing 40k
Yes you're right, I wasnt saying that you can fix the worlds problem - just that it is interesting when you look at a wider picture.