If you had links or anything other than hearsay, you wouldn't be. But so far, you really DO sound like some nut decrying the moon landings based on "evidence" such as a flag supposedly waving.
Huh? I wouldn't be what? If you want to offer mean-spirited opinions rather than ask for clarification, you would do well to actually make sense when you write. You defeat your own intentions otherwise.
No it hasn't. Lithium in the body is normally under the "trace" level. Unless you're on meds.
A trace quantity was the level being discussed. --Here's a the relevant excerpt from the referenced study taken from this book.
But please do me a favor: stop trusting random snake-oil vending charlatan's crackpot theories just because they use nice buzzwords like "natural" and "energize" and try to sell you a "natural magnetic therapy cyclotonic machine".
Ouch. --Do me a favor please and don't make such bold assumptions. I admit I do not have any medical training beyond CPR and general first-aid, but I am not a fool. I have done a lot of reading all over the spectrum and I can identify a snake-oil salesman better than most. --There are qualities about people and their works which can be readily used to determine a given crackpot factor. Generally, when people have obtained degrees in medicine, I can assume that they know the basics. When multiple labs are referenced, that also lends credence since you have more than one person examining a set of ideas. When theories are presented clearly and succinctly, this also indicates something about the mind of the author. The various employers a researcher has had also indicate levels of integrity, etc. Then of course, the actual ideas being presented and how much sense they make and how they fit within all the other things we know and which can be researched indicate volumes. It's all about comparative research, which incidentally is why I post on Slashdot; in the hopes of running into guys like you who might have useful bits of information to add or subtract.
When it comes to these topics, I can only proceed in this manner; networking and cross-analyzing to build a knowledge structure. I am certainly not going to stop being curious about the world simply because I am not a specialist, or because the general population is accustomed to punishing those who refuse to follow popular wisdom, by hooting and hollering at them from the peanut gallery.
In any case, it should be noted that my primary intention was to illustrate that low-power EM was capable of affecting the normal operations of the brain. Here's a couple of other items which support this idea. . .
The state can pick you up, yes - but does it want to? Does the state know what you think? Does it know who you love? Does it know with any amount of certainty if you could someday pick up a weapon and head for the hills? Rhetorical questions all. It doesn't, but your friends and neighbors do.
I very strongly suspect that the state does in fact know these things. --I know a woman who studied profiling science. In combination with all the massive data mining and domestic wire-tapping, etc., I think it's safe to say that nobody has any secrets.
And you mentioned love. --While I respect the Hobbit analogy, and definitely see value in that way of managing one's time here, I also see value in refusing to let go of the very thing the dark side wants to destroy.
Phew - I'm so glad I live in a country with 50Hz power! I sure dodged that cyclotronic resonance bullet.
Yeah. I've always found that curious. I wonder if there's any connection to the fact that most of Europe, with the exception of England, isn't also leading the charge into disaster these days. Also, the magnetic properties of the Earth fluctuate somewhat.
The point I was trying to make was to illustrate how mechanisms above and beyond ionizing EM radiation are something to be aware of. Many people seem to believe that because EM radiation doesn't burn tissue that it is above criticism.
No, there is NO statistically significant evidence suggesting a correlation between cell phones and tumors. There has been NO scientific study to suggest that, only idiotic scaremongering, which is what this article is about. Not only is there no empirical evidence, but there is no known basis for it in physics/biology/chemistry since microwaves are NON IONIZING RADIATION. That means that they have NO EFFECT on matter other than to heat it up if you bombard it with enough. It's no different than standing in front of a fireplace and absorbing the longer wavelength infra red spectrum.
Saying loudly, firmly and often that studies don't exist doesn't make it so. Just because they don't make the front page and because you haven't read them doesn't make them not exist.
In any case, the question of whether or not EM radiation ionizes tissue is a bugaboo designed to misdirect people's attention. The first two places I heard this obvious fact touted was within literature promoted by the Telecoms themselves, and before them, the U.S. Airforce which was trying to quash lawsuits with regard to their radar operations and people getting sick. The point is that there are recognized mechanisms through which brain chemistry and cellular behavior is affected by low power, nom-ionizing EM. For example. . .
60 htz wall socket power in conjunction with the Earth's magnetic field resonates with the Lithium ion, exciting it and causing it to move on a vector. This is based on the principle of cyclotronic resonance. Your blood stream has a natural lithium content and it plays a role in the balancing of your brain activities. When artificially excited, lithium ions cross the blood brain barrier more readily and brain chemistry is altered. Many anti-depressant drugs use lithium as their active ingredient, the logic being that increasing the amount of lithium in the blood raises the number of blood brain barrier crossing instances under normal conditions. When specifically energized, however, the natural quantity can have a medicinal effect. That's one way in which the brain is directly affected by non-ionizing EM. There are other ways.
I read a series of studies which demonstrated that cancer cells in vitro divide and grow many times faster when exposed to certain wavelengths of low power EM as compared to control samples. Everybody has cells going cancerous in their bodies, but a healthy person's immune system is able to deal with this. It's when those cells get a foothold that problems occur. I had to buy a book to read about these studies. You never see this stuff on TV. --All we get are scare mongering stories on the BBC which are, I am certain, designed to be shot down strawman style just like that dumb 'fake moon landing' thing.
Your entire nervous system is electrochemical in nature and thus affected by the EM energy spectrum even at low power levels.
A simple example. . .
60 htz wall socket power in conjunction with the Earth's magnetic field resonates with the Lithium ion, exciting it and causing it to move on a vector. This is based on the principle of cyclotronic resonance. Your blood stream has a natural lithium content and it plays a role in the balancing of your brain activities. When artificially excited, lithium ions cross the blood brain barrier more readily and brain chemistry is altered. Many anti-depressant drugs use lithium as their active ingredient, the logic being that increasing the amount of lithium in the blood raises the number of blood brain barrier crossing instances under normal conditions. When specifically energized, however, the natural quantity can have a medicinal effect.
And that's just one example of how a low power EM signal can affect cognition.
I'm always careful with 'Bad Science'-type websites. You can quickly determine from their tone that they operate only partly on rationalism. There is also a lot of fear-based elitism to be found there. Best to watch your step.
I'm not expecting to survive long in such a system. --And it's the strength of healthy community which helps others grow and survive which is indeed feared by the enemy, who wants nothing of the sort, and which is why their systems target the human connection. But the more people know beforehand about the methods of the state, the more they expect to be subverted, the more you build support systems in advance, the better able you are to resist the darkness. Like I said, I don't expect to last very long, but to not try isn't why I'm here. --Not that survival isn't a very laudable instinct to follow, but I'm far more pissed off than I am feeling a need for self-preservation. If survival was my primary goal, (and it certain is one of them, just not number 1), then I'd leave the country altogether.
The thing which stands out for me is that in the West today, as opposed to the Red Curtain experience, real information collection has little to do with neighbors turning in neighbors. --The state already knows everything about you. They can realistically scoop you whenever they want. The whole neighbors thing, if it manifests here, would be largely designed to seed distrust and to break down human bonds. Humans grouping together and growing strong and overcoming their differences in order to become informed about the primary enemy is what that enemy fears most.
Psychopaths are biologically driven to sow fear and chaos.
Don't let that creepy bozo get to you. Anybody who doesn't see it yet is either deliberately not looking, or salivating over the probability of getting his very own arm band and truncheon.
I know several people who made the move to other parts of the world, and I relocated myself out of a giant city and into a small community with lots of human connection and support networks. --Seeing how easily the metro was clamped down when the year 2000 hysteria came and went, just gave me shivers. --That many cops with assault rifles with all the streets strategically cordoned off was really freaky. I was out that night to watch the fireworks and all those steely eyes squinting at me from behind shatter-proof visors makes one feel very vulnerable. . . It doesn't take much effort to lock down a city, and all the civilians were so much chaff. Not pretty.
How does that work? Do they add up the estimated values of both companies and dish out a number? But when one of the companies is putting 1 billion into the deal, and the other company 2 billion, doesn't that only equal 3 billion? Or are they just spending that on lawyers, donuts and hotel accommodations for the merger meeting? I don't get it. Either way, a billion dollars sure doesn't buy what it used to.
Greed is a disease. The west has embraced greed. The west will die.
It's that simple, and it's exactly what is going on right now; every world event, large and small points to it. Most of us will get to see the whole system fall big-time in this life. Cool, huh?
The Romans had to wait around for a thousand years before their greed-rotted system fell apart. I guess it was that their empire just ran slower. Goods and information moved at the speed of boots and horses instead of cars and trucks. The speed of greed.
How are you manage when the money stops flowing? Have you built your support networks yet? Have you learned how to share your toys? Figure it out, because flashy game reviews aren't going to keep you warm at night. Neither is your 'Whee', for that matter.
Hm. Okay. 'Country' is too literal. It was all about Empires for a long while there. We could call it a defunct Ottoman province, I guess. For several hundred years it kind of depended on who had the better armed tax collectors what the land was written down as in the ledger books. For simplicity, we might say, "the region which everybody unofficially called 'Palestine' until it became somewhat more official after the Ottoman controlled lands were carved up by the Brits and the French." --But I think calling it 'Palestine' is easier. In any case, brown people have lived there and would know where to point you if you asked how to get there. It wasn't until a bunch of Europeans decided to make it a country based entirely on a dumb religion and put all the Jews there that the real problems started. --Which has always struck me as a profoundly efficient way to put an entire group of people into one place if their eventual destruction was the end goal, --a goal which I think is becoming increasingly more evident as world events progress. I recommend to all my Jewish friends to stay the heck out of the so-called holy land for this exact reason. When the tables finally turn, it's going to be a bad day to be Jewish in Israel.
You show a profound ignorance of not just history, but of recent world events. Those blinders you wear were probably glued onto your face during college (or did it occur in your local mosque?). Defending murderous terrorists attacks against unarmed women and children because they are "Jews!" is the height of racism. You are, plain and simple, evil.
Wow. Where to begin here. ..
First of all. . , I happen to agree with you re college training. --They cost too much and they create limitations in people, but they also have their place. I'd not want to drive across a bridge which had been built by somebody without an engineer's certification. But whatever the case, I can tell you I got fed up with college after a few months and left feeling gyped. I'd had such high expectations. I've never visited a mosque, nor do I have much use for Islam in much the same way I think Christianity and Judaism are for people who have been duped. As for defending murderous terrorist attacks against anybody, let alone civilians. . . I certainly never said any such thing. Killing is wrong, no matter who happens to be doing it. However. . . Claiming a chunk of land and planting a religious flag, and shoveling everybody of the wrong faith out is kind of insane. It's asking to get shot at. --Which, I suspect, is why it was engineered in the first place. Unless you are taking off to the 'new land' in wooden boats to avoid religious persecution, (and to kill off all the stick-wielding natives when you get there), you're simply going to piss everybody off. But of course, I think that the whole idea of religion was similarly designed to make sure nobody got the idea of acting respectfully towards one another. Divide and conquer, right?
Basically, the only real solution is to abandon religion altogether and stop planting flags.
The Zionist government is pretty much psychotic, as are most (if not all) governments. People get so caught up in their divisions that all it takes are a few bombs to make people do crazy things. And while I am sure there are confused murderers with rockets, there are also secret services which will bomb their own people to make sure the flocks move in the right directions. We see it everywhere and I've heard about it from 'within' the beast. The false flag op is a real thing.
I went to school with one guy who was highly influenced by this junk. --He was a really seedy character who would regularly plagiarize to win school writing contests and pass term papers. It drove the people around him nuts, but he got through life handily enough. He even wrote a book filled with stories about Palestinian terrorists cutting open the bellies of pregnant women and dancing on the unborn babies
They do laugh, because you actually believe that shit. Damn you're an idiot.
That shit, my friend. . ?
Thing is, one of us is right and one of us isn't. And one of us is an Anonymous Coward. Tell you anything?
I've got some neat info on EM assembled by a Doctor Robert O. Becker which I found helpful in determining what to think about electro magnetics and its relationship with the human nervous system. If you're interested, I'd be happy to share. Of course, it's easier to do no research at all and simply tell yourself that anybody who thinks outside the popular trends is a fool. Unfortunately, following the popular trends also makes people limited, mis-informed and if you'll pardon me, but also kind of boring and predictable. ('Predictable' being perhaps the most important feature). So which IS your favorite? Coke or Pepsi? And how about that Gameboy? Shucks!
Hm. How do you control the thoughts, emotions and actions of an entire race of people?
HAARP. (Allows you to bounce your signal all around the globe). Here's a selected bit from an old New York Times article about one of the guys researching this back in the fifties. ..
Of all the scientists who are working in this area, however, Dr. Delgado appears to be the only one using radio to stimulate animals' brains, with special attention to effects on social behavior. He also makes use of telemetry in studying physiological activity in brains and other organs.
"I do not know why more work of this sort isn't done," he remarked recently, "because it is so economical and easy." Essentially, Dr. Delgado's system for studying social behavior consists of constant time-lapse photography of animal colonies, the analysis of those films and recording of of all the animals, details in the behavior patterns.
This permits not just qualitative assessment of the animals' social interactions but also the quantification of each one's behavioral profile, Dr. Delgado said. This is particularly important when analyzing the modifications in social behavior of the group produced by radio stimulation of a particular response in one or more of the animals.
For example, stimulation of several specific regions of the brain can induce aggressiveness in a monkey. Having quantatative data on that animal's behavior, as well as on that of others in the colony can reveal more precisely the magnitude, of various, sometimes subtle, effects of electrical stimulation on individual and collective social behavior.
This guy was pretty messed up. --He thought that humans needed to be controlled for their own good. --As do many other players in the creepy world of mind control. And that was several decades ago.
A guy I knew in the military who was in a position to know told me that the cell phone system is more about monitoring everybody. However, he was also aware that the brain could be controlled through energy manipulation and confirmed extensive application of this. So. . , my thinking is that the energies the cell phone net bathes us in are also very good at making people behave in certain ways by directly stimulating the brain, which makes it a secondary system to the big ol' HAARP thingy. This has been confirmed by a couple of channeled sources. (Ouija board stuff.) (Please note, that the material here is copyrighted by the authors, but it's been recently removed from, well, everywhere including the internet archive, and the original site of the authors also vanished a couple of days back which is the only reason I'm posting the link here. My apologies to the authors. Please don't change or alter or re-post the contents in any way. If the original material re-appears, then I'll delete the linked file. Cheers!)
In any case. . , cell phones are messed up. Just look at the people you know who use them regularly. Don't they seem a bit. . , well, dumb to you? Unless you are one of them. Then you probably aren't able to see it. The brain's a funny thing that way.
How about it? Is there anyone else left here who also hasn't got a cell phone?
Present and accounted for!
Land line. My cold, dead hands.
I don't wear a dog collar. I get great reception. Costs less. And my brain is not fuzzed out with the mind-control radiation.
Oh, they laugh. They all laugh! (Well, they don't do it to my face, cuz they know that a guy who speaks with my brand of conviction will only make them read a bunch of boring technical notes to prove his position while they only have colorful pamphlets offering mobile deals).
Okay. I'll crawl back into the woodwork now. --People can find me easily enough, though. Just follow the copper pair.
What part of defensive war did you not understand.
The part where he uses the term, 'defensive war'.
You see, back before there was an Israel, there was a country called Palestine. Then Palestine was taken away from the native population and given to the Zionist movement to create a new country. Some of the original population went along with this somewhat willingly. Others not. I say the land was stolen, but that's just my response to the historical accounts available (the ones which don't come written on bible paper).
But the problem is that the angry fellow who posted called this occupation of Palestine a, 'defensive war'. --And I don't see how that term could be applied to the above scenario. Now if the native population of Palestine were fighting to stop invaders who were intent on taking away their land and putting them all behind a huge wall, then you could say that the natives were fighting a, 'Defensive War'. Because, you see, they were the ones who were minding their own lives when the Zionist movement descended upon them with the intention of land appropriation. But as it happens, the poster told me that the reverse was true; that the occupying forces were the ones I was supposed to feel sympathy for, that they were the ones fighting a so-called 'defensive war', even though the land was not their's to start with. So I assumed that the poster was either, A) writing about something entirely different and that it was all a big misunderstanding, or that he was B) Insane.
Seriously. I wasn't sure, because the claim was so incredibly at odds with the reality of the situation that I thought nobody could be that mistaken. --So I liberally applied my response to him with qualifiers. However, those qualifiers were obviously not clearly put, because you seem to have responded with the same bizarre interpretation. So tell me. Have I made a huge mistake about the subject we are supposedly writing about, or are you also nuts?
Your reply tells me that you a) can't understand simple English, and b) like to twist things around in ways they weren't meant. Essentially, you're a pig. I'm not going to bother teaching you to sing.
A) You'd have to write in simple English to measure that. I admit I had to struggle to understand what the heck you were saying in a couple of cases, which is why I littered my response with a healthy number of, "if I am reading this correctly"s and "Correct me if I'm wrong"s. I can assure you, my reading comprehension is quite good. The one sending the communication is just as much a part of the transaction, and you rang up a bit of a debt.
B) The only thing I twisted around was a mirror so you could see yourself and what you were saying.
Essentially I'm a pig? Nice closing argument. Now here's mine: You are wrong, delusional and dangerous. You support the mass murder of civilians. What more can possibly be said?
Any defining theories about UFO's and Loch Ness to close? PS: time to visit the shrink, buddy.
You're not so big on the whole thinking and exploring thing, are you? I don't believe any of my posts to you have been out of order or without plenty of uncontested examples which are freely verifiable to anybody who has even the slightest spark of curiosity. So what's the problem?
Hint: If you strive to live within a belief system which is pre-defined with needlessly tight parameters, then you're going to end up assuming ridiculous things, like pranksters pushing hundreds of rocks around the Death Valley mud flats and then tip-toeing back out in the dead of night.
If you were wrong about that, (and you were), then just think of all the other things you are utterly clueless about.
Chances are you're simply a Jew-hating turd who won't be happy until Israel is wiped off the earth. If that's the case, then I'd refuse to talk to you based on principle alone.
Wrong. Half my friends are Jews. I think I stated already - no, I KNOW I stated it already, but just for you, I'll do it again; I have no problem at all with Jews in exactly the same way I don't have any problem with Americans. But their psychotic governments are a different matter altogether. There. Let that sink in. --Just because I am criticizing a government for killing civilians en masse, it does not make me anti-Semitic. Why is that so hard for people to grasp? The 'anti-Semite' card is getting very old and very tired.
The ONLY way to arrive at your conclusion is by ignoring all of the available data, and all common sense, so what point is there for me to attempt to engage you in rational discourse?
I've known IDF soldiers who came back to the West to laugh about getting high and killing people. Maybe they were an extreme example, but their accounts were certainly hair-raising in a, 'these guys are really scary' kind of way. --And if theirs was an accurate indication of some of the forces moving within the Israeli military and government, then it is very hard to take Israel's stated innocence in the media at face value.
As for my ignoring all available data? Hm. Even CNN covered the wall which Israel put up, so I didn't miss that fact. Then there's the armed check points; those are in the main-stream news (i.e., pro-Israeli-spun news, it should always be remembered), so I didn't miss those facts either. The confiscation of land is well known. The recent bull-dozing of civilian houses and orchards is less well known, but the footage is plentiful, so I'm not missing those points. The imprisonment and starvation of an entire population on the Gaza Strip. . , well nobody likes to talk about that much or use those terms, but those facts are also freely available, so they can't be the facts you're referring to. --And of course, the on-going bombing raids and the shootings and the general killing of civilians through the use of a highly advanced and extremely well-equipped military. What facts am I missing here?
Just because genocides in the past have been more sudden and abrupt does not mean that there is not a deliberate and systematic campaign to destroy an entire people going on; a campaign which has a measurable and regular body count; more facts. --And you suggest that I am the one with race hatred? Hm. It is an interesting fact, (and yes, this is another fact), that the abuser, particularly the sociopathic abuser will accuse the victim of the very abuses they themselves are guilty of.
But then, you are telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe that's true. However, maybe your facts are the ones which are not accurate. Maybe you're the one who is buying into propaganda. Have you considered that before? And assuming you have considered this, what did you base your (clearly) negative conclusion on?
Land "stolen"? Land taken in a defensive war does not qualify as "stolen" in my book. When you get your ass handed to you - especially by a smaller guy - in a fight you started, you don't have the right to ask for your dignity back. Oh, and you won't hear it in the popular press, but a lot of "stolen" land was actually sold freely by Arabs to Jewish folks.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but you're saying that it's okay to invade a country and take it for yourself so long as you win? --And that this is not 'stealing'? Is 'occupation' a better word?
And how exactly, if I am indeed interpreting you correctly here, did the Palestinians start this fight? I thought it was the Germans. --Or are you one of those bible-text people?
And, ya know, the "refugee" problem could be solved right-quick if the other Arab countries gave a damn about the plight of said refugees. Israel is about the size of New Jersey, and shrinking, because of continued - wasted - concessions. Any one of those larger Arab countries in the region could spare enough land to give the refugees a place to live.
Sooo. . , by this same logic, if the Israeli army went to Belgium and occupied that country - and put all the Belgians in a giant concentration camp, then the responsibility for the suffering is not Israel's, but rather it's France's for not taking the refugees? Ah. It's so clear now. Oh, and unless I'm terribly mistaken, I don't believe that any of the countries you mentioned are refusing to allow Palestinians into their countries, which makes the whole point moot.
This is far from a wholesale endorsement of Israel; they're not perfect, either. But, a quick question - in which country would you rather live: Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Syria? You're less likely to have your lifeless body dragged through the streets, while your murderers dance around with your blood literally on their hands, in Israel than in any of the other countries.
I thought we were talking about Palestine. How did Iran and Saudi Arabia and Syria get into this? Or are you also one of those gents who thinks that by pointing at other people they can justify their own atrocities? Guess what; It doesn't work that way. Especially since Israel is killing more people by far than any of those three nations combined. --Or are we only counting people with white skin here?
I'm not 100% sure yet, but I'm beginning to think that you might be a sick fuck. Please offer something to dissuade me of this notion.
Genocide is what would occur if you took the Israeli arsenal, and gave it to Palestine.
And you, sir, are in idiot.
Um. . . That's a highly simplified piece of nonsense to be clinging to when the actual reality happening right now is that kids are having their brains splattered on pavement by Israeli soldiers. If you want to call me an idiot, you need to also pony up some logical rational which doesn't come from a can.
Surely, if you're smarter than me, then you can offer something more than name-calling and sound-bite dogma. What part of my post did you not agree with and why?
Wow, you did so well until the crop circle bit. There's something full of joy, sad, and disturbing at the same time about denying fine people like Doug Bower and Dave Chorley their hoax, and I applaud you for it, sir.
Heck, applaud Doug and Dave. After all, according to the swamp-gas view point, those jokers were responsible for a couple thousand circles, numerous of which appeared on the other side of the planet. Also. . . Magnetic seeds, dude. Radiation burns. Black helicopters. --And I failed to mention genetic anomolies in sample versus control seeds. It's all in the evidence room for anybody who cares to look.
Doug and Dave were just a couple of jokers designed to create confusion. And hey, it worked. --Everybody is ignoring the undeniable proof positive evidence of actual alien contact with our world going on right now. Everybody loves SETI, but they ignore crop circles? Sheesh. You'd think with all the people who are fans of Star Trek and the Matrix and general sci-fi. . . It's as if we're living in one of those episodes where all the people have been hypnotized and only the plucky main character has enough intelligence to see through the illusion and enough guts to do something about it. Everybody who enjoys fiction of that kind thinks that they'd be brave and smart enough to accomplish such feats were they the ones in the story, but the reality is that most people are red shirts.
Now that's sad and disturbing. But not really all that joyful. . .
Google is owned by the Rothschild family. You won't see it directly, but if you look at the list of proxy owners, it is clear. This family owns Israel as well (bought it from the British) and controls the Mossad. It is a condition of Google's success that all Google data -- and I do mean ALL -- is made available to agents of the Rothschild family, i.e. Mossad in Israel. A reasonably sized portion of illegal Rothschild money is laundered through Google via ad sales (which put the marble business to shame). This is similar to how drug money from the British royal family is laundered through Microsoft -- what do you think Billy G. got that knighthood for? It is quite simple for any company that is part of the stock index to launder money and there are even "national security" laws which specifically allow for "off the books" transactions that make the entire process work quite effectively.
Well, I did a couple of hours of searching around, and I was only able to pin down the following. . .
Two capital investment firms did most of the early funding for Google. Sequoia Capital Investments pitched in 12.5 million for a 10% share in Google's pre-IPO development, and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers bought another 10% at the same price at the same time. They each made about 4.5 billion when Google went public.
It is interesting to note that Eugene Kleiner himself was one of the founders of Fairchild Semiconducter, which was originally funded by the Sherman Fairchild, one of those ominously, creepily way-too-wealthy guys whose endless portfolio of companies has heavy ties to the Military Industrial Complex as well as banking. It is also noteworthy that Kleiner's board members include both Colin Powell and Al Gore. (Weird mix there.) --But for all of that, they only had a 10% share of Google, much of which was later divested for tidy profits. So that doesn't seem like much of a means to control Google's board unless there were some private agreements made in the beginning, but that's neither here nor there.
Sequoia, by contrast, as of 2005 had retained all 10% of their investment. They also hold about 30% of YouTube, so Google's purchase of that kept the money in-house, so to speak and benefited them. But even still, they have nowhere near any controlling interest in Google.
The other big investor in Google in the beginning was Andy Bechtolsheim, co-founder of Sun Microsystems. He put $100,000 into the startup, but I haven't been able to find out how much of Google he owns as a result of that, if any. Wikipedia called the cash a 'donation', but I wasn't able to confirm that. Also, I don't know if this is relevant, but Bill Joy, another of Sun's founders became a Kleiner partner in 2005, for whatever that's worth.
The rest of the controlling ownership appears to sit heavily with Google's original founders, Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
I wasn't able to find the Rothschild connection you describe. Is there some part of this story that I'm missing?
Stirring the hornets nest? Sure, by simply existing. Israel has tried everything they could to bring peace with their neighbors.
Eh? Does cluster bombing, bulldozing houses, and shooting children appear on that list? (All strictly condemned by the Geneva Convention). --Not to mention staged 'terrorist' attacks which seem to happen with predictable regularity right when peace talks are about to commence. Who do such actions help? Starving Palestinians or genocidal Zionists who describe Palestinians as dogs. . ? I can't seem to find it anymore online, (surprise, surprise), but I recall an incident from a couple of years back where a Palestinian child was drugged and rigged with bombs and then sent off toward a checkpoint. And the media had been alerted beforehand so that they could have their cameras running when the boy arrived. That's a curious way to conduct a terrorist war against your oppressors. --It would prove that the Palestinians were animals who deserved punishment. Are freedom fighters that consistently stupid? Apparently so, if you believe the propaganda. Unfortunately, the stunt went badly, and the boy was whisked away before he could tell anybody who had drugged him. The Mossad fumbles like this from time to time. --Another favorite was when a number of 'home-made' rockets being fired from 'Palestine' into urban Jewish neighborhoods turned out to have been launched from within an Israeli military base and used parts which had been procured from within the military. Oops! But the world has been so frightened of being labeled 'anti-semitic' that they turn a blind eye.
I have no problem with Jews in the same way I have no problem with Americans. But their psychopathic governments are another story. Genocide is underway right now now with many dozens of Palestinian deaths every week, with over a million jammed into a 25 mile by 5 mile wide concentration camp. And let's not forget. . . This was land stolen from an indigenous population based on thin arguments using biblical texts of all things as their rational foundation! Only religious nuts believe in that nonsense, unless of course, it serves their political ends.
The lake bed is famous for being almost perfectly flat, which makes sense; wet mud contained in a many-miles across caldera would tend to even itself out over time. In any case, the slide direction of the rocks matches wind direction, as was shown with one 7-year study with tagged stones.
Each article about the rocks states, just as with the grain circles, that there was no evidence of human activity - while you can easily walk around without leaving trails, especially behind the rocks, and if you leave tails there you can clear them.
Easily? You really need to explain that process before you can say such a thing. --Have you ever walked on a mud flat before? I have. 'Easy' is the last adjective I'd use. 'Virtually impossible' is closer to the truth. And keep in mind, we're talking about removing foot prints to and from the sites of hundreds of stones, not just along the path of each stone. Not to mention that many of the rocks are mere pebbles, which leave trails too thin to walk along. We're also talking about a phenomenon which has been around for a very long time. Have pranksters been passing down the hoax from father to son for generations? I think the wind model perhaps mixed with some other force, like water currents or tidal forces or something makes far more sense than pranksters.
One scientist, Dr. Robert P. Sharp, supports this theory. Sharp, a professor of geology at the California Institute of Technology embarked on a seven-year study of this curious wonder. He tagged the positions of thirty stones and watched them for about one year. He recorded the weather conditions after each move. To no one's surprise, all but two of them moved in the directions of the prevailing winds. A nine-ounce stone moved 690 feet in one giant slide. Another stone moved 860 feet in a series of moves.
Crop Circles are even more fascinating by far. . . Many formations exhibit exploded burn marks on the jointed part of the stalk where the bend takes place. In a small number of circles, the seeds have actually been rendered magnetic, (the cause of which, it was determined, was due to iron in the soil somehow bonding and forming into microscopic spheres which lifted and became encrusted into the crevices of all the seeds within the formation). Also the specific weave patterns with which the stalks are folded down in non-hoax circles belies a level of complexity which cannot be achieved by a couple of human pranksters with planks and ropes. As well, the no-footprints issue remains, especially on earth which is dry and crumbly, where footprints would be easily noted. A documentary, available at your local video store, called "Crop Circles, the Search for Truth" is really informative. It also captures on film some of the unmarked black helicopters which have been reported on numerous occasions buzzing formations, as well as an account of how one lead researcher was threatened by the CIA to publicly retract his work. Fascinating stuff.
Sherlock Holmes, as cool as he was, remains a fictional character. Crop circles and sliding stones exist in the real world.
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Huh? I wouldn't be what? If you want to offer mean-spirited opinions rather than ask for clarification, you would do well to actually make sense when you write. You defeat your own intentions otherwise.
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A trace quantity was the level being discussed. --Here's a the relevant excerpt from the referenced study taken from this book.
But please do me a favor: stop trusting random snake-oil vending charlatan's crackpot theories just because they use nice buzzwords like "natural" and "energize" and try to sell you a "natural magnetic therapy cyclotonic machine".
Ouch. --Do me a favor please and don't make such bold assumptions. I admit I do not have any medical training beyond CPR and general first-aid, but I am not a fool. I have done a lot of reading all over the spectrum and I can identify a snake-oil salesman better than most. --There are qualities about people and their works which can be readily used to determine a given crackpot factor. Generally, when people have obtained degrees in medicine, I can assume that they know the basics. When multiple labs are referenced, that also lends credence since you have more than one person examining a set of ideas. When theories are presented clearly and succinctly, this also indicates something about the mind of the author. The various employers a researcher has had also indicate levels of integrity, etc. Then of course, the actual ideas being presented and how much sense they make and how they fit within all the other things we know and which can be researched indicate volumes. It's all about comparative research, which incidentally is why I post on Slashdot; in the hopes of running into guys like you who might have useful bits of information to add or subtract.
When it comes to these topics, I can only proceed in this manner; networking and cross-analyzing to build a knowledge structure. I am certainly not going to stop being curious about the world simply because I am not a specialist, or because the general population is accustomed to punishing those who refuse to follow popular wisdom, by hooting and hollering at them from the peanut gallery.
In any case, it should be noted that my primary intention was to illustrate that low-power EM was capable of affecting the normal operations of the brain. Here's a couple of other items which support this idea. . .
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here's a story where EM is used casually to shut down a man's visual cortex
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I very strongly suspect that the state does in fact know these things. --I know a woman who studied profiling science. In combination with all the massive data mining and domestic wire-tapping, etc., I think it's safe to say that nobody has any secrets.
And you mentioned love. --While I respect the Hobbit analogy, and definitely see value in that way of managing one's time here, I also see value in refusing to let go of the very thing the dark side wants to destroy.
We all have our parts to play.
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Yeah. I've always found that curious. I wonder if there's any connection to the fact that most of Europe, with the exception of England, isn't also leading the charge into disaster these days. Also, the magnetic properties of the Earth fluctuate somewhat.
The point I was trying to make was to illustrate how mechanisms above and beyond ionizing EM radiation are something to be aware of. Many people seem to believe that because EM radiation doesn't burn tissue that it is above criticism.
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Saying loudly, firmly and often that studies don't exist doesn't make it so. Just because they don't make the front page and because you haven't read them doesn't make them not exist.
In any case, the question of whether or not EM radiation ionizes tissue is a bugaboo designed to misdirect people's attention. The first two places I heard this obvious fact touted was within literature promoted by the Telecoms themselves, and before them, the U.S. Airforce which was trying to quash lawsuits with regard to their radar operations and people getting sick. The point is that there are recognized mechanisms through which brain chemistry and cellular behavior is affected by low power, nom-ionizing EM. For example. . .
60 htz wall socket power in conjunction with the Earth's magnetic field resonates with the Lithium ion, exciting it and causing it to move on a vector. This is based on the principle of cyclotronic resonance. Your blood stream has a natural lithium content and it plays a role in the balancing of your brain activities. When artificially excited, lithium ions cross the blood brain barrier more readily and brain chemistry is altered. Many anti-depressant drugs use lithium as their active ingredient, the logic being that increasing the amount of lithium in the blood raises the number of blood brain barrier crossing instances under normal conditions. When specifically energized, however, the natural quantity can have a medicinal effect. That's one way in which the brain is directly affected by non-ionizing EM. There are other ways.
I read a series of studies which demonstrated that cancer cells in vitro divide and grow many times faster when exposed to certain wavelengths of low power EM as compared to control samples. Everybody has cells going cancerous in their bodies, but a healthy person's immune system is able to deal with this. It's when those cells get a foothold that problems occur. I had to buy a book to read about these studies. You never see this stuff on TV. --All we get are scare mongering stories on the BBC which are, I am certain, designed to be shot down strawman style just like that dumb 'fake moon landing' thing.
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A simple example. . .
60 htz wall socket power in conjunction with the Earth's magnetic field resonates with the Lithium ion, exciting it and causing it to move on a vector. This is based on the principle of cyclotronic resonance. Your blood stream has a natural lithium content and it plays a role in the balancing of your brain activities. When artificially excited, lithium ions cross the blood brain barrier more readily and brain chemistry is altered. Many anti-depressant drugs use lithium as their active ingredient, the logic being that increasing the amount of lithium in the blood raises the number of blood brain barrier crossing instances under normal conditions. When specifically energized, however, the natural quantity can have a medicinal effect.
And that's just one example of how a low power EM signal can affect cognition.
I'm always careful with 'Bad Science'-type websites. You can quickly determine from their tone that they operate only partly on rationalism. There is also a lot of fear-based elitism to be found there. Best to watch your step.
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I'm not expecting to survive long in such a system. --And it's the strength of healthy community which helps others grow and survive which is indeed feared by the enemy, who wants nothing of the sort, and which is why their systems target the human connection. But the more people know beforehand about the methods of the state, the more they expect to be subverted, the more you build support systems in advance, the better able you are to resist the darkness. Like I said, I don't expect to last very long, but to not try isn't why I'm here. --Not that survival isn't a very laudable instinct to follow, but I'm far more pissed off than I am feeling a need for self-preservation. If survival was my primary goal, (and it certain is one of them, just not number 1), then I'd leave the country altogether.
The thing which stands out for me is that in the West today, as opposed to the Red Curtain experience, real information collection has little to do with neighbors turning in neighbors. --The state already knows everything about you. They can realistically scoop you whenever they want. The whole neighbors thing, if it manifests here, would be largely designed to seed distrust and to break down human bonds. Humans grouping together and growing strong and overcoming their differences in order to become informed about the primary enemy is what that enemy fears most.
Psychopaths are biologically driven to sow fear and chaos.
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I know several people who made the move to other parts of the world, and I relocated myself out of a giant city and into a small community with lots of human connection and support networks. --Seeing how easily the metro was clamped down when the year 2000 hysteria came and went, just gave me shivers. --That many cops with assault rifles with all the streets strategically cordoned off was really freaky. I was out that night to watch the fireworks and all those steely eyes squinting at me from behind shatter-proof visors makes one feel very vulnerable. . . It doesn't take much effort to lock down a city, and all the civilians were so much chaff. Not pretty.
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It's that simple, and it's exactly what is going on right now; every world event, large and small points to it. Most of us will get to see the whole system fall big-time in this life. Cool, huh?
The Romans had to wait around for a thousand years before their greed-rotted system fell apart. I guess it was that their empire just ran slower. Goods and information moved at the speed of boots and horses instead of cars and trucks. The speed of greed.
How are you manage when the money stops flowing? Have you built your support networks yet? Have you learned how to share your toys? Figure it out, because flashy game reviews aren't going to keep you warm at night. Neither is your 'Whee', for that matter.
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No, there was no country of "Palestine".
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Hm. Okay. 'Country' is too literal. It was all about Empires for a long while there. We could call it a defunct Ottoman province, I guess. For several hundred years it kind of depended on who had the better armed tax collectors what the land was written down as in the ledger books. For simplicity, we might say, "the region which everybody unofficially called 'Palestine' until it became somewhat more official after the Ottoman controlled lands were carved up by the Brits and the French." --But I think calling it 'Palestine' is easier. In any case, brown people have lived there and would know where to point you if you asked how to get there. It wasn't until a bunch of Europeans decided to make it a country based entirely on a dumb religion and put all the Jews there that the real problems started. --Which has always struck me as a profoundly efficient way to put an entire group of people into one place if their eventual destruction was the end goal, --a goal which I think is becoming increasingly more evident as world events progress. I recommend to all my Jewish friends to stay the heck out of the so-called holy land for this exact reason. When the tables finally turn, it's going to be a bad day to be Jewish in Israel.
You show a profound ignorance of not just history, but of recent world events. Those blinders you wear were probably glued onto your face during college (or did it occur in your local mosque?). Defending murderous terrorists attacks against unarmed women and children because they are "Jews!" is the height of racism. You are, plain and simple, evil.
Wow. Where to begin here. .
First of all. . , I happen to agree with you re college training. --They cost too much and they create limitations in people, but they also have their place. I'd not want to drive across a bridge which had been built by somebody without an engineer's certification. But whatever the case, I can tell you I got fed up with college after a few months and left feeling gyped. I'd had such high expectations. I've never visited a mosque, nor do I have much use for Islam in much the same way I think Christianity and Judaism are for people who have been duped. As for defending murderous terrorist attacks against anybody, let alone civilians. . . I certainly never said any such thing. Killing is wrong, no matter who happens to be doing it. However. . . Claiming a chunk of land and planting a religious flag, and shoveling everybody of the wrong faith out is kind of insane. It's asking to get shot at. --Which, I suspect, is why it was engineered in the first place. Unless you are taking off to the 'new land' in wooden boats to avoid religious persecution, (and to kill off all the stick-wielding natives when you get there), you're simply going to piss everybody off. But of course, I think that the whole idea of religion was similarly designed to make sure nobody got the idea of acting respectfully towards one another. Divide and conquer, right?
Basically, the only real solution is to abandon religion altogether and stop planting flags.
The Zionist government is pretty much psychotic, as are most (if not all) governments. People get so caught up in their divisions that all it takes are a few bombs to make people do crazy things. And while I am sure there are confused murderers with rockets, there are also secret services which will bomb their own people to make sure the flocks move in the right directions. We see it everywhere and I've heard about it from 'within' the beast. The false flag op is a real thing.
I went to school with one guy who was highly influenced by this junk. --He was a really seedy character who would regularly plagiarize to win school writing contests and pass term papers. It drove the people around him nuts, but he got through life handily enough. He even wrote a book filled with stories about Palestinian terrorists cutting open the bellies of pregnant women and dancing on the unborn babies
That shit, my friend. . ?
Thing is, one of us is right and one of us isn't. And one of us is an Anonymous Coward. Tell you anything?
I've got some neat info on EM assembled by a Doctor Robert O. Becker which I found helpful in determining what to think about electro magnetics and its relationship with the human nervous system. If you're interested, I'd be happy to share. Of course, it's easier to do no research at all and simply tell yourself that anybody who thinks outside the popular trends is a fool. Unfortunately, following the popular trends also makes people limited, mis-informed and if you'll pardon me, but also kind of boring and predictable. ('Predictable' being perhaps the most important feature). So which IS your favorite? Coke or Pepsi? And how about that Gameboy? Shucks!
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HAARP. (Allows you to bounce your signal all around the globe). Here's a selected bit from an old New York Times article about one of the guys researching this back in the fifties. .
This guy was pretty messed up. --He thought that humans needed to be controlled for their own good. --As do many other players in the creepy world of mind control. And that was several decades ago.
A guy I knew in the military who was in a position to know told me that the cell phone system is more about monitoring everybody. However, he was also aware that the brain could be controlled through energy manipulation and confirmed extensive application of this. So. . , my thinking is that the energies the cell phone net bathes us in are also very good at making people behave in certain ways by directly stimulating the brain, which makes it a secondary system to the big ol' HAARP thingy. This has been confirmed by a couple of channeled sources. (Ouija board stuff.) (Please note, that the material here is copyrighted by the authors, but it's been recently removed from, well, everywhere including the internet archive, and the original site of the authors also vanished a couple of days back which is the only reason I'm posting the link here. My apologies to the authors. Please don't change or alter or re-post the contents in any way. If the original material re-appears, then I'll delete the linked file. Cheers!)
In any case. . , cell phones are messed up. Just look at the people you know who use them regularly. Don't they seem a bit. . , well, dumb to you? Unless you are one of them. Then you probably aren't able to see it. The brain's a funny thing that way.
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Present and accounted for!
Land line. My cold, dead hands.
I don't wear a dog collar. I get great reception. Costs less. And my brain is not fuzzed out with the mind-control radiation.
Oh, they laugh. They all laugh! (Well, they don't do it to my face, cuz they know that a guy who speaks with my brand of conviction will only make them read a bunch of boring technical notes to prove his position while they only have colorful pamphlets offering mobile deals).
Okay. I'll crawl back into the woodwork now. --People can find me easily enough, though. Just follow the copper pair.
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The part where he uses the term, 'defensive war'.
You see, back before there was an Israel, there was a country called Palestine. Then Palestine was taken away from the native population and given to the Zionist movement to create a new country. Some of the original population went along with this somewhat willingly. Others not. I say the land was stolen, but that's just my response to the historical accounts available (the ones which don't come written on bible paper).
But the problem is that the angry fellow who posted called this occupation of Palestine a, 'defensive war'. --And I don't see how that term could be applied to the above scenario. Now if the native population of Palestine were fighting to stop invaders who were intent on taking away their land and putting them all behind a huge wall, then you could say that the natives were fighting a, 'Defensive War'. Because, you see, they were the ones who were minding their own lives when the Zionist movement descended upon them with the intention of land appropriation. But as it happens, the poster told me that the reverse was true; that the occupying forces were the ones I was supposed to feel sympathy for, that they were the ones fighting a so-called 'defensive war', even though the land was not their's to start with. So I assumed that the poster was either, A) writing about something entirely different and that it was all a big misunderstanding, or that he was B) Insane.
Seriously. I wasn't sure, because the claim was so incredibly at odds with the reality of the situation that I thought nobody could be that mistaken. --So I liberally applied my response to him with qualifiers. However, those qualifiers were obviously not clearly put, because you seem to have responded with the same bizarre interpretation. So tell me. Have I made a huge mistake about the subject we are supposedly writing about, or are you also nuts?
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A) You'd have to write in simple English to measure that. I admit I had to struggle to understand what the heck you were saying in a couple of cases, which is why I littered my response with a healthy number of, "if I am reading this correctly"s and "Correct me if I'm wrong"s. I can assure you, my reading comprehension is quite good. The one sending the communication is just as much a part of the transaction, and you rang up a bit of a debt.
B) The only thing I twisted around was a mirror so you could see yourself and what you were saying.
Essentially I'm a pig? Nice closing argument. Now here's mine: You are wrong, delusional and dangerous. You support the mass murder of civilians. What more can possibly be said?
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You're not so big on the whole thinking and exploring thing, are you? I don't believe any of my posts to you have been out of order or without plenty of uncontested examples which are freely verifiable to anybody who has even the slightest spark of curiosity. So what's the problem?
Hint: If you strive to live within a belief system which is pre-defined with needlessly tight parameters, then you're going to end up assuming ridiculous things, like pranksters pushing hundreds of rocks around the Death Valley mud flats and then tip-toeing back out in the dead of night.
If you were wrong about that, (and you were), then just think of all the other things you are utterly clueless about.
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Wrong. Half my friends are Jews. I think I stated already - no, I KNOW I stated it already, but just for you, I'll do it again; I have no problem at all with Jews in exactly the same way I don't have any problem with Americans. But their psychotic governments are a different matter altogether. There. Let that sink in. --Just because I am criticizing a government for killing civilians en masse, it does not make me anti-Semitic. Why is that so hard for people to grasp? The 'anti-Semite' card is getting very old and very tired.
The ONLY way to arrive at your conclusion is by ignoring all of the available data, and all common sense, so what point is there for me to attempt to engage you in rational discourse?
I've known IDF soldiers who came back to the West to laugh about getting high and killing people. Maybe they were an extreme example, but their accounts were certainly hair-raising in a, 'these guys are really scary' kind of way. --And if theirs was an accurate indication of some of the forces moving within the Israeli military and government, then it is very hard to take Israel's stated innocence in the media at face value.
As for my ignoring all available data? Hm. Even CNN covered the wall which Israel put up, so I didn't miss that fact. Then there's the armed check points; those are in the main-stream news (i.e., pro-Israeli-spun news, it should always be remembered), so I didn't miss those facts either. The confiscation of land is well known. The recent bull-dozing of civilian houses and orchards is less well known, but the footage is plentiful, so I'm not missing those points. The imprisonment and starvation of an entire population on the Gaza Strip. . , well nobody likes to talk about that much or use those terms, but those facts are also freely available, so they can't be the facts you're referring to. --And of course, the on-going bombing raids and the shootings and the general killing of civilians through the use of a highly advanced and extremely well-equipped military. What facts am I missing here?
Just because genocides in the past have been more sudden and abrupt does not mean that there is not a deliberate and systematic campaign to destroy an entire people going on; a campaign which has a measurable and regular body count; more facts. --And you suggest that I am the one with race hatred? Hm. It is an interesting fact, (and yes, this is another fact), that the abuser, particularly the sociopathic abuser will accuse the victim of the very abuses they themselves are guilty of.
But then, you are telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. Maybe that's true. However, maybe your facts are the ones which are not accurate. Maybe you're the one who is buying into propaganda. Have you considered that before? And assuming you have considered this, what did you base your (clearly) negative conclusion on?
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So, correct me if I'm wrong here, but you're saying that it's okay to invade a country and take it for yourself so long as you win? --And that this is not 'stealing'? Is 'occupation' a better word?
And how exactly, if I am indeed interpreting you correctly here, did the Palestinians start this fight? I thought it was the Germans. --Or are you one of those bible-text people?
And, ya know, the "refugee" problem could be solved right-quick if the other Arab countries gave a damn about the plight of said refugees. Israel is about the size of New Jersey, and shrinking, because of continued - wasted - concessions. Any one of those larger Arab countries in the region could spare enough land to give the refugees a place to live.
Sooo. . , by this same logic, if the Israeli army went to Belgium and occupied that country - and put all the Belgians in a giant concentration camp, then the responsibility for the suffering is not Israel's, but rather it's France's for not taking the refugees? Ah. It's so clear now. Oh, and unless I'm terribly mistaken, I don't believe that any of the countries you mentioned are refusing to allow Palestinians into their countries, which makes the whole point moot.
This is far from a wholesale endorsement of Israel; they're not perfect, either. But, a quick question - in which country would you rather live: Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Syria? You're less likely to have your lifeless body dragged through the streets, while your murderers dance around with your blood literally on their hands, in Israel than in any of the other countries.
I thought we were talking about Palestine. How did Iran and Saudi Arabia and Syria get into this? Or are you also one of those gents who thinks that by pointing at other people they can justify their own atrocities? Guess what; It doesn't work that way. Especially since Israel is killing more people by far than any of those three nations combined. --Or are we only counting people with white skin here?
I'm not 100% sure yet, but I'm beginning to think that you might be a sick fuck. Please offer something to dissuade me of this notion.
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And you, sir, are in idiot.
Um. . . That's a highly simplified piece of nonsense to be clinging to when the actual reality happening right now is that kids are having their brains splattered on pavement by Israeli soldiers. If you want to call me an idiot, you need to also pony up some logical rational which doesn't come from a can.
Surely, if you're smarter than me, then you can offer something more than name-calling and sound-bite dogma. What part of my post did you not agree with and why?
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Heck, applaud Doug and Dave. After all, according to the swamp-gas view point, those jokers were responsible for a couple thousand circles, numerous of which appeared on the other side of the planet. Also. . . Magnetic seeds, dude. Radiation burns. Black helicopters. --And I failed to mention genetic anomolies in sample versus control seeds. It's all in the evidence room for anybody who cares to look.
Doug and Dave were just a couple of jokers designed to create confusion. And hey, it worked. --Everybody is ignoring the undeniable proof positive evidence of actual alien contact with our world going on right now. Everybody loves SETI, but they ignore crop circles? Sheesh. You'd think with all the people who are fans of Star Trek and the Matrix and general sci-fi. . . It's as if we're living in one of those episodes where all the people have been hypnotized and only the plucky main character has enough intelligence to see through the illusion and enough guts to do something about it. Everybody who enjoys fiction of that kind thinks that they'd be brave and smart enough to accomplish such feats were they the ones in the story, but the reality is that most people are red shirts.
Now that's sad and disturbing. But not really all that joyful. . .
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Well, I did a couple of hours of searching around, and I was only able to pin down the following. . .
Two capital investment firms did most of the early funding for Google. Sequoia Capital Investments pitched in 12.5 million for a 10% share in Google's pre-IPO development, and Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers bought another 10% at the same price at the same time. They each made about 4.5 billion when Google went public.
It is interesting to note that Eugene Kleiner himself was one of the founders of Fairchild Semiconducter, which was originally funded by the Sherman Fairchild, one of those ominously, creepily way-too-wealthy guys whose endless portfolio of companies has heavy ties to the Military Industrial Complex as well as banking. It is also noteworthy that Kleiner's board members include both Colin Powell and Al Gore. (Weird mix there.) --But for all of that, they only had a 10% share of Google, much of which was later divested for tidy profits. So that doesn't seem like much of a means to control Google's board unless there were some private agreements made in the beginning, but that's neither here nor there.
Sequoia, by contrast, as of 2005 had retained all 10% of their investment. They also hold about 30% of YouTube, so Google's purchase of that kept the money in-house, so to speak and benefited them. But even still, they have nowhere near any controlling interest in Google.
The other big investor in Google in the beginning was Andy Bechtolsheim, co-founder of Sun Microsystems. He put $100,000 into the startup, but I haven't been able to find out how much of Google he owns as a result of that, if any. Wikipedia called the cash a 'donation', but I wasn't able to confirm that. Also, I don't know if this is relevant, but Bill Joy, another of Sun's founders became a Kleiner partner in 2005, for whatever that's worth.
The rest of the controlling ownership appears to sit heavily with Google's original founders, Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
I wasn't able to find the Rothschild connection you describe. Is there some part of this story that I'm missing?
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Eh? Does cluster bombing, bulldozing houses, and shooting children appear on that list? (All strictly condemned by the Geneva Convention). --Not to mention staged 'terrorist' attacks which seem to happen with predictable regularity right when peace talks are about to commence. Who do such actions help? Starving Palestinians or genocidal Zionists who describe Palestinians as dogs. . ? I can't seem to find it anymore online, (surprise, surprise), but I recall an incident from a couple of years back where a Palestinian child was drugged and rigged with bombs and then sent off toward a checkpoint. And the media had been alerted beforehand so that they could have their cameras running when the boy arrived. That's a curious way to conduct a terrorist war against your oppressors. --It would prove that the Palestinians were animals who deserved punishment. Are freedom fighters that consistently stupid? Apparently so, if you believe the propaganda. Unfortunately, the stunt went badly, and the boy was whisked away before he could tell anybody who had drugged him. The Mossad fumbles like this from time to time. --Another favorite was when a number of 'home-made' rockets being fired from 'Palestine' into urban Jewish neighborhoods turned out to have been launched from within an Israeli military base and used parts which had been procured from within the military. Oops! But the world has been so frightened of being labeled 'anti-semitic' that they turn a blind eye.
I have no problem with Jews in the same way I have no problem with Americans. But their psychopathic governments are another story. Genocide is underway right now now with many dozens of Palestinian deaths every week, with over a million jammed into a 25 mile by 5 mile wide concentration camp. And let's not forget. . . This was land stolen from an indigenous population based on thin arguments using biblical texts of all things as their rational foundation! Only religious nuts believe in that nonsense, unless of course, it serves their political ends.
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You'll have to speak for yourself on that count.
Each article about the rocks states, just as with the grain circles, that there was no evidence of human activity - while you can easily walk around without leaving trails, especially behind the rocks, and if you leave tails there you can clear them.
Easily? You really need to explain that process before you can say such a thing. --Have you ever walked on a mud flat before? I have. 'Easy' is the last adjective I'd use. 'Virtually impossible' is closer to the truth. And keep in mind, we're talking about removing foot prints to and from the sites of hundreds of stones, not just along the path of each stone. Not to mention that many of the rocks are mere pebbles, which leave trails too thin to walk along. We're also talking about a phenomenon which has been around for a very long time. Have pranksters been passing down the hoax from father to son for generations? I think the wind model perhaps mixed with some other force, like water currents or tidal forces or something makes far more sense than pranksters.
Crop Circles are even more fascinating by far. . . Many formations exhibit exploded burn marks on the jointed part of the stalk where the bend takes place. In a small number of circles, the seeds have actually been rendered magnetic, (the cause of which, it was determined, was due to iron in the soil somehow bonding and forming into microscopic spheres which lifted and became encrusted into the crevices of all the seeds within the formation). Also the specific weave patterns with which the stalks are folded down in non-hoax circles belies a level of complexity which cannot be achieved by a couple of human pranksters with planks and ropes. As well, the no-footprints issue remains, especially on earth which is dry and crumbly, where footprints would be easily noted. A documentary, available at your local video store, called "Crop Circles, the Search for Truth" is really informative. It also captures on film some of the unmarked black helicopters which have been reported on numerous occasions buzzing formations, as well as an account of how one lead researcher was threatened by the CIA to publicly retract his work. Fascinating stuff.
Sherlock Holmes, as cool as he was, remains a fictional character. Crop circles and sliding stones exist in the real world.
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