Get off your butts. Instead of whining on a forum spend the next 2 minutes of your life emailing your representative for the American slashdotter.
Remember these legislators only hear and get their information from lobbyists and pacs.
Tell them it is not acceptable to have a monopoly cut off your Netflix. If your representative has an R tell him or her that there is no free market and it harms innovation and our economy as a result. If he or she has a D explain monopolistic powers and pacs are writing rules.
Yes they check with their staff all day. If they get a surge of angry citizens they will notice. Remember the law to ban opensource and force drm? I posted that link and the bill died. We can change this if we act together. Religious right did this and won. It's time geeks do the same
No I simply stated Windows Phone was growing.. which is true... and it has 3 times the market share. Also true. Blackberry is dying in both marketshare and volume.
It seems you are moving the goalpost by giving a false illusion that people are leaving Windows Phone which is not the case as the explosion in growth is cheap Chinese phones in Asia with Android pre-installed.
But I said blackberry marketshare down while Windows Phone is growing. Instead the GP got me modded down to make it look like people are actually leaving Windows Phone by that one hand picked statistic. That is not math or true.
Blackberry is declining. Windows phone is growing. Just not as fast in Asia where they all have el cheapo Chinese Androids.
MY PC is built from sabertooth Asus series with solid caps, capicators, vrm, etc. Same with gtx 770 video card. It will last 10 years:-)
2020 is still quite a ways out. Windows 7 is not going anywhere. Sure Intel will try to sabatoge atom with no SOC drivers so they can cut back on support costs and keep prices low but for real systems the demand for 7, like XP, is too great to ignore.
Many of us will stick with 7 even more so than with XP during the last time. 7 is the best OS ever made PERIOD.... besides the flat ugly icons in 10 I do not like the cortana search as I wanted to open power options in control panel and instead binged control panel... face palm. That needs to be fixed too. But still I just end up with another 7. No reason to change. It is kind of sad as we are geeks who used to like change but I guess we have aged and operating systems have matured now.
10 seems more like a laptop oriented system with applets and power saving stuff.
But Windows 10 is a big improvement. THe larger question is why should I leave 7? I hate the newer icons as they are all going 8 color is my only compliant so far. Give me a Windows 7 theme and I am happy as I spent my XP years with the Windows 2000 theme as I never could get used to that blue fisher price color set. It still took off.
These apps run on the desktop just like win32 ones. Metro didn't take off because no one used it as they clicked on the desktop tile and stayed there. Also 8 has a small 10% ish marketshare right now. That won't stay forever as Windows 7 in just a few years will go the way of XP with EOL. You will eventually use it at work in time and so will everyone else.
I agree with you that it's all about the apps. Unfortunately, Microsoft has a problem. Nobody is making apps for the phone because nobody uses Windows Phone because there are no apps for it. Universal apps aren't going to help, except for certain verticals, maybe. It's not like Windows desktop is a hotbed of development anymore (except for games). Excluding games, what's the last Windows title that was mildly interesting to the general public?
iOS and Android are all that matter and I can't see that changing in the next 3 years.
Here is the difference. Windows 8 no one really bought it besides Joe six packs whose computer just broke and he needs another.
Windows 10 will be like Windows 7 was to Vista.... err 10.1 as Windows 7 was very rock solid and usable at this stage sadly where 10 still is pretty rough. Maybe an XP repeat:-)
Users with 8 always stayed on the desktop so no point of porting either. With 10 it is the desktop so your app will be there for your user. Windows 10 or 10.2 or whatever if I read the material correctly as 10.x = macosx.x where corporations buy the slow ring (even releases) while home users get all releases. So this means it will take 100% of all Windows marketshare eventually. Windows 7 EOL will come sooner than we think as the years go by.
In essence the situation is totally different. Your Windows Phone will run all your pc apps. It will have the full office. It will have spotify, it will sync your settings, cortana, and your Spartan web browser (finally killing IE) etc.
So I think MS might have a decent chance and it is growing but small right now.
Universal apps are what might make or break Windows phone 10.
Isn't this why they forced metro on desktop users in Windows 8 so people would write "Silverlight" apps for PC that could run or trivially port to Windows phone?
Unless Microsoft allows software to be installed without clearing it first with Microsoft and allows devices to be usable without requiring a Microsoft account and constant uploading everything to Microsoft servers with no recourse or option to stop then as far as I'm concerned windows phone has no future.
They have technically a good platform but they are killing themselves in a self-defeating quest to emulate apple and shovel their cloud shit down peoples throats.
Here is the kicker. Metro are not phone apps!
Infact you would need to have one app for Windows 8, another for Windows RT, and then make another for WIndows Phone. Meanwhile you write for IOS and you get both tablet and phone. Same with Android.
So if they make a fat binary like Apple did you target all unless you have specific assembly code or calls to some old api tied to win32 or x86.
Universal apps are what might make or break Windows phone 10.
The OS really is good. It is light, intuitive, and bug free. With no apps and a requirement for developers to write to 2 different operating systems with niche market shares hurt both.
Just Compromise an adserver with A flash exploit and You Can 0wn Tens Of thousands within hours.
Whoever thought to run executables on random websites was a good idea? More proof adblock not user education is needed for security. Gone are the days of not clicking meant secure
Does it test implementation? Game pad support as one example was just now a proposal. IE doesn't support that therefore it is not compliant is not true as no standard implementation is agreed upon
IE 11 implements W3C standards better than any browser. Webkit might have more check offs from html5test but they are not implemented the same way as w3c.
Css 3 animations are a good example. Chrome does not do them right without hacks.
It is not IE 6 anymore and Sun and IBM subverted and changed proposed standards IE 6 used in development on purpose. It was not designed to break Web pages. Mozilla and Netscape were worse in 2001 believe it or not
Skuemorphic design with gloss, shininess, gradients, are out dated according to the Art professors.
Look at ios 8? Buttons are gone as they represent real objects. Macosx? Yosemite is flat and high color scales and gradients gone. Andriod M? Same. Furniture? That too is now minimalist color and design.
This is the new thing.
Even chromes icon now no longer looks like 3d plastic circa 2011. It is flat and slightly frosted.
The old way is out of date now. You all whined Skuemorphism sucks!!! Look at the leather in macosx address book??? Well the art professors heard. You got it
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Hey Hairy if this drives you crazy you got to take a look at the new Windows 10 screenshot icons? All 8 color galore in these pics. :-)
Take a look at these low color icon beauties.
The art professors I am sure who teach this UI stuff to future designers are drooling already.
Hey it beats adding leather to the addressbook in skuemorphic design right? You all whined and complained. Well you got it.
Get off your butts. Instead of whining on a forum spend the next 2 minutes of your life emailing your representative for the American slashdotter.
Remember these legislators only hear and get their information from lobbyists and pacs.
Tell them it is not acceptable to have a monopoly cut off your Netflix. If your representative has an R tell him or her that there is no free market and it harms innovation and our economy as a result. If he or she has a D explain monopolistic powers and pacs are writing rules.
Yes they check with their staff all day. If they get a surge of angry citizens they will notice. Remember the law to ban opensource and force drm? I posted that link and the bill died. We can change this if we act together. Religious right did this and won. It's time geeks do the same
Windows Phone!= Windows Mobile.
They are completely different as in Windows 3.1 vs Windows NT different with separate apis and frameworks and kernels.
No I simply stated Windows Phone was growing .. which is true ... and it has 3 times the market share. Also true. Blackberry is dying in both marketshare and volume.
It seems you are moving the goalpost by giving a false illusion that people are leaving Windows Phone which is not the case as the explosion in growth is cheap Chinese phones in Asia with Android pre-installed.
But I said blackberry marketshare down while Windows Phone is growing. Instead the GP got me modded down to make it look like people are actually leaving Windows Phone by that one hand picked statistic. That is not math or true.
Blackberry is declining. Windows phone is growing. Just not as fast in Asia where they all have el cheapo Chinese Androids.
XP was supported for a very very long time.
MY PC is built from sabertooth Asus series with solid caps, capicators, vrm, etc. Same with gtx 770 video card. It will last 10 years :-)
2020 is still quite a ways out. Windows 7 is not going anywhere. Sure Intel will try to sabatoge atom with no SOC drivers so they can cut back on support costs and keep prices low but for real systems the demand for 7, like XP, is too great to ignore.
Many of us will stick with 7 even more so than with XP during the last time. 7 is the best OS ever made PERIOD. ... besides the flat ugly icons in 10 I do not like the cortana search as I wanted to open power options in control panel and instead binged control panel ... face palm. That needs to be fixed too. But still I just end up with another 7. No reason to change. It is kind of sad as we are geeks who used to like change but I guess we have aged and operating systems have matured now.
10 seems more like a laptop oriented system with applets and power saving stuff.
Windows phone is not wince.
Totally different platforms With different kernels, frameworks, apis, etc. Wince is like Windows 3.11 and wp NT. Actually that is quite accurate
... year over year grew by over 21.6%.
Blackberry declined. I can read. You anti MS zealots are something
I would mod you up if I could.
I am not a metro lover at all.
But Windows 10 is a big improvement. THe larger question is why should I leave 7? I hate the newer icons as they are all going 8 color is my only compliant so far. Give me a Windows 7 theme and I am happy as I spent my XP years with the Windows 2000 theme as I never could get used to that blue fisher price color set. It still took off.
Have you seen the Windows 10 beta at all?
These apps run on the desktop just like win32 ones. Metro didn't take off because no one used it as they clicked on the desktop tile and stayed there. Also 8 has a small 10% ish marketshare right now. That won't stay forever as Windows 7 in just a few years will go the way of XP with EOL. You will eventually use it at work in time and so will everyone else.
If the apps exist people will use it.
I agree with you that it's all about the apps. Unfortunately, Microsoft has a problem. Nobody is making apps for the phone because nobody uses Windows Phone because there are no apps for it. Universal apps aren't going to help, except for certain verticals, maybe. It's not like Windows desktop is a hotbed of development anymore (except for games). Excluding games, what's the last Windows title that was mildly interesting to the general public?
iOS and Android are all that matter and I can't see that changing in the next 3 years.
Here is the difference. Windows 8 no one really bought it besides Joe six packs whose computer just broke and he needs another.
Windows 10 will be like Windows 7 was to Vista. ... err 10.1 as Windows 7 was very rock solid and usable at this stage sadly where 10 still is pretty rough. Maybe an XP repeat :-)
Users with 8 always stayed on the desktop so no point of porting either. With 10 it is the desktop so your app will be there for your user. Windows 10 or 10.2 or whatever if I read the material correctly as 10.x = macosx.x where corporations buy the slow ring (even releases) while home users get all releases. So this means it will take 100% of all Windows marketshare eventually. Windows 7 EOL will come sooner than we think as the years go by.
In essence the situation is totally different. Your Windows Phone will run all your pc apps. It will have the full office. It will have spotify, it will sync your settings, cortana, and your Spartan web browser (finally killing IE) etc.
So I think MS might have a decent chance and it is growing but small right now.
Universal apps are what might make or break Windows phone 10.
Isn't this why they forced metro on desktop users in Windows 8 so people would write "Silverlight" apps for PC that could run or trivially port to Windows phone?
Unless Microsoft allows software to be installed without clearing it first with Microsoft and allows devices to be usable without requiring a Microsoft account and constant uploading everything to Microsoft servers with no recourse or option to stop then as far as I'm concerned windows phone has no future.
They have technically a good platform but they are killing themselves in a self-defeating quest to emulate apple and shovel their cloud shit down peoples throats.
Here is the kicker. Metro are not phone apps!
Infact you would need to have one app for Windows 8, another for Windows RT, and then make another for WIndows Phone. Meanwhile you write for IOS and you get both tablet and phone. Same with Android.
So if they make a fat binary like Apple did you target all unless you have specific assembly code or calls to some old api tied to win32 or x86.
Windows phone already has 3 times the marketshare and is growing. BlackBerry is dying
Universal apps are what might make or break Windows phone 10.
The OS really is good. It is light, intuitive, and bug free. With no apps and a requirement for developers to write to 2 different operating systems with niche market shares hurt both.
Google forked their own version of SSL called Googlessl. My guess is chrome would use this.
The big question is Googles implementation based on openssl or libressl? The bug might still be there if former
Great idea!
I'll tell my Mom to type that in a terminal right away.
I would say 98%
I have never heard of one who doesn't. One client still uses punch cards. if it ain't broke don't fix it!
Just Compromise an adserver with A flash exploit and You Can 0wn Tens Of thousands within hours.
Whoever thought to run executables on random websites was a good idea? More proof adblock not user education is needed for security. Gone are the days of not clicking meant secure
Easy the us constitution forbids states interfering with interstate commerce. Therefore the FCC has the right
Firefox was Mozillas spartan. Netscape code really bogged it down. Firefox was just better after the striping
Does it test implementation? Game pad support as one example was just now a proposal. IE doesn't support that therefore it is not compliant is not true as no standard implementation is agreed upon
IE 11 implements W3C standards better than any browser. Webkit might have more check offs from html5test but they are not implemented the same way as w3c.
Css 3 animations are a good example. Chrome does not do them right without hacks.
It is not IE 6 anymore and Sun and IBM subverted and changed proposed standards IE 6 used in development on purpose. It was not designed to break Web pages. Mozilla and Netscape were worse in 2001 believe it or not
Problem is they make finding apps more difficult and outlook 2013s lack of colors make it hard to spot marked events.
Skuemorphic design with gloss, shininess, gradients, are out dated according to the Art professors.
Look at ios 8? Buttons are gone as they represent real objects. Macosx? Yosemite is flat and high color scales and gradients gone. Andriod M? Same. Furniture? That too is now minimalist color and design.
This is the new thing.
Even chromes icon now no longer looks like 3d plastic circa 2011. It is flat and slightly frosted.
The old way is out of date now. You all whined Skuemorphism sucks!!! Look at the leather in macosx address book??? Well the art professors heard. You got it