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Hands-On With the Vivaldi Browser
justthinkit writes: Vivaldi is billing itself as the power user's browser, and Ars went hands-on with it today. They say, "Vivaldi has so many great features, but it can be a little frustrating because it is still very much a technical preview. It's been largely stable during testing (most of the bugs we encountered using the first release are gone in the second), but it's still missing some key features." It appears to have the cred, with Vivaldi's CEO being Jon S. von Tetzchner, the co-founder and former CEO of Opera. Does the thinking behind Vivaldi appeal to you? Do you plan to switch when it's more feature-complete?
Given that I don't like bloat, no, Vivaldi holds no interest for me. I don't need a swiss army knife to browse the web. I need a stable, fast web browser with support for my chosen extensions.
OK, I'm leaving.
Why in hell are we going back to 2D windows? Hell, we just go to the point where they were looking decent, and now everyone's going back to that ugly flat-ass look of the 90's?
--- Keep the choice with the user..
..so yeah. I'm still stuck with Opera 12.17 simply because there isn't a single comparable browser and the "new" Opera is not even deserving of that name.
That's a no-go for me, I definitely want adblock and tracking protection, and hosts file blocking can be too crude, especially against tracking.
Opera 10.10 still does very well.. Now that various large sites have stopped trying to sabotage opera directly, ebay, amazon, others work better than they ever have...
I'm a heavy user tho. I often have 40+ tabs open in a system with less than 4gb ram; as well as other applications... Chrome and Firefox I run in a VM when needed for sites that fail in Opera(Walmart! Lowes, Homedepot)...
The best features of opera few talk about are actually "Site Preferences", Content blocking, and more detailed control. I can disable or enable javascript/animations/whatever on a site by site choice... Does Vivaldi provide this?
Side by side opera uses a tiny fraction of the system resources per-page than chrome/firefox..(firefox v3.6 uses about twice that of opera 10.10, newer version are all much worse(to display/do the same thing I might add).
I loved the Opera of old, then it went to sh*t when it became just another Chrome clone.
I'm currently using over 10 extensions in firefox just to make it look and feel like Opera did, the tech preview of Vivaldi is like the Opera of old already, it can only get better from there.
Just missing extension support(which is coming) and a few tweak to the mouse gestures and themes for me to switch.
Initial thoughts. Faster than Safari. Incredibly faster than Firefox, which has become like the retired Athlete that put on 100 pounds in 3 months and can't keep up.
Lets you see what cookies are placed on your machine.
Nice Keyboard Shortcuts Youtube runs well, the browser does a weird expanding thing when going to full screen, but works fine once there (it's no slower to get there, so it was just a surprise, not a knock. Configurable tabs
They have a "mail" sidebar. Not certain if web or standard - not implemented yet.
Notes are kinda cool
Things needed:
Cache location and ability to set size needed, plus ability to run with no cache.
I want to know the high persistence cookies and where they get stored, plus the ability to dump and/or refuse them.
This was all with a 15 minute tour. I'm posting using Vivaldi at the moment. It's definitely in preview form, but pretty interesting.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
What I'm most impressed about is that on a per-tab basis, I can turn on No-Image mode via small portrait icon in the lower right corner. What I'm not sure about yet is if it actually stops fetching the images (like old mozilla used to, saving bandwidth and speeding up load times), or just doesn't display them.
However, I've run into quite a few websites that load up fine for me in chrome/firefox/IE but do not load at all and get timeout errors when I try to go to them in vivaldi. Is the vivaldi service proxying webpages through some central service? Or, maybe it's just bugs in an early tech preview.
Ad blocking.
Tree style tabs.
Control over what JavaScript is executed and what is not.
Control over which cookies are submitted and which are not.
Control over HTTP Referer.
Supercookie (flash) cleaning.
Download manager.
Link cleaning.
A browser for the “power user”? Cool, let us give it a try. Now, what is the Git clone URL? Hum. Source tarball? No? Seriously? Just a bad joke then.
oh, you mean lynx... no?
oh, right the other links... still no?
oh, with a GUI, you mean DIllo then.
So is it really just a slimmed down Opera?
I do plan to give it a test and may well migrate to it. I am still using Opera 12 for some things that it does better than any other browser I have tried.
It's chromium with extra user features and a different interface...
One thing that Mozilla doesn't get (and engineers in general, I ween) is that changing things imposes a cognitive load on the users.
I'm used to Firefox, it does what I want and doesn't require my attention very much. The major reason I don't switch to Chrome or any of the other browsers is cognitive load: I'd have to learn an entire new way of doing things. Different looks, different icons, different behaviour... it would take hours to figure out the new system, many minor "how can I get it to do this..." moments amortized over the next year.
Every time Firefox changes, it's a distraction. Something to notice, figure out, and get around. For me this time it's the offline cache system - no amount of fiddling with the options or about:config will cause the system to save tabs on program exit and load those tabs anew on start - the weather *has* to show yesterday's page on program startup(*).
The previous issue (for me) was putting the window rendering in an external thread, the upshot was that cascading menus took several seconds to render. Click, count to three, then see the bookmarks... move the cursor, count to three, see the selection bar move down. Setting the about:config option to undo this caused Firefox to crash on every boot, but un-setting "use hardware acceleration" fixed that. (My dad is *totally* going to figure that out and not move to Chrome instead.)
All this "OMGWTF we need to be like Chrome!!!" and "OMGWTF we need a chicklet interface" is driving users away from the system. For every change, a number of users say "screw it, I'm moving to $OtherBrowser".
Changing behaviour at all is stupid, doing it once a month is ridiculously stupid. They're thinking in terms of "how can we add more functionality" instead of "how can we attract and keep users".
Pro tip: adding complexity to every little feature does not necessarily make your software more popular.
(*) To be fair, I've only tried 6 of the 64 possible combinations of options that might affect this (in Options->Privacy and about:config). It might be a simple fix, I just need to uncover the right combination of options to do it.
Take a look at these low color icon beauties.
The art professors I am sure who teach this UI stuff to future designers are drooling already.
Hey it beats adding leather to the addressbook in skuemorphic design right? You all whined and complained. Well you got it.
http://saveie6.com/
It's not just eye-candy, 3D effects can convey info. For example, having buttons look 3D helps to visually distinguish them from other boxy things. Same with tabs that cast shadows. Such cues are generally good (if done right).
Why not give people a choice in the OS? Have "flat", "3D", and maybe "Jewel" for those who really do want eye-candy.
Table-ized A.I.
I could never understand the rationale behind binding a browser and email client. Two completely different functions with little, if any, overlap. I'd much rather the development efforts be totally focused upon the browser, and not on yet another email client.
No thanks.
I was a big Opera fan back in the day, but have moved on to Firefox since. Mozilla would have to disappear entirely for me to switch to yet another proprietory Webkit/Blink browser.
Others have described Vivaldi as Chromium with a different UI, which could have been a good thing, but alas their implementation brings with it new problems. From TFA:
It's a sign of the times that bad things are being portrayed as good.
Unfortunately Vivaldi's UI implementation means that it will always be slower than Chromium. It will always look worse too, because so-called "Web UIs" take us many decades backwards in human interface usability. Virtually every web app today has an UI that is far worse ergonomically and sylistically than the average primitive application on an Amiga in the 1980's.
That's not the way forward.
Where are all the overwhelming options? It overrides my window display settings, which is very bad manners in software design. It imposes Google spyware functionality as though Google is somehow part of what makes a browser. It tries to call home on first run. I don't even see an option to disable script. How could anyone think this is a browser "for the user"? I didn't get as far as trying to load a page. The window is just too ugly and I'd want to configure a lot more things before I'd allow it to go online.
For all Four Seasons!
Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
I mean yes, it's a browser for "friends", and friends won't try to steal each other's password, but would it kill them to actually encrypt locally stored credentials?
~/.config/vivaldi/Default/Login Data
Plain text for such storage is kinda silly.
https://vivaldi.net/forum/private-browsing/1405-passwords-are-unencrypted
https://github.com/mortenoir/vivaldi-stealer
Hyperom.com
I wonder how they plan to make profit from a browser.
I only see a "thing" with an extremely ugly UI.
I don't get it. What is wrong with software where a "tab" in a window looks like a tab, and not like "something".
I'm tired of "searching" on a UI for stuff. We are using "visual" interfaces so you get "visually" a clue how to interact with the software.
E.g. it is plain distracting that on Safari /. now has "animated buttons" for "preview" and "submit". WTF. Who comes to the stupid idea that this is an "improvement"?
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Nothing to see, nothing new, boring.
...going to be hard to make anyone give a shit. ESPECIALLY web devs who don't want yet another browser that does something slightly different.
BeauHD. Worst editor since kdawson.
... and one has already been done:
https://vivaldi.net/forum/all/...
Content blocking is included as native. AdBlock can be added as an extension:
https://vivaldi.net/forum/viva...
Vivaldi doesn't seem all that special or unique, but what really put me off was noticing only 3 of their 25 'team members' are women. The rest are all white guys except for a lone asian guy.
I don't expect a great product when there's practically no diversity in the team that's creating it.
Interesting browser for those who are fan of the "old" Opera (like me):
Pros:
has a lot of feature the "old" Opera has but not the "new":
-Tab stacking (but they don't work as well than old Opera)
-"trash" (to bring back old tab that you closed in the current session - although it looks like Vivaldi do not work per session so it looks more like just a shortcut to the history)
-separate search and adress bar
-a fucking menu (even if it look weird without a title bar)
-mouse gesture (ok the "new" opera has them too but they're so useful)
Cons:
-no disabling of javascript/plugin
-no per-site preference
-ugly UI, no native look
-no title bar
-still in pretty early state
Interesting but I'll stay on Opera 12.x for now. It's still seem pretty "alpha" and the ugly UI do not make me want to beta test it at all. Feature-wise it seems already better than the "new" opera though.
Vivaldi is not yet my default browser, but I expect it to be there when it's ready. Some parts of the interface (especially the mail client) need a bit of work, and yes it still needs stabilization, but it seems to be coming along well.
I have been involved with Opera for over 12 years and Vivaldi for about 6 months. Not certain I'd consider any browser since Opera 12 on my old 1 GB netbook - I don't see Opera 27 or Vivaldi useful in such low RAM, which is unfortunate. On a better system, both are good browsers.
Looks to me like Opera are now copying Vivaldi - many of the features they are introducing in Opera 29 (finally) are the ones you find in Vivaldi. Good for the users, but they should have been there first.
i could skin the entirety of the UI in windows xp. windowblinds was it called?
Opera was the browser with features...but then they kept adding features for no reason other than to add features. Does a web browser really need an IRC client? An integrated bittorrent client? They just went nuts adding crap, evidently because they were bored.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
I have tried out Vivaldi and I'm disappointed. And not because of the bugs.
I'm disappointed because of the false claims that Vivaldi would be a follow-up to Opera 12.x.
It is not. It does not give me the features, the power, the freedom to counter the formatting and decoration and publicity shit of so many web pages - starting with the big ones. Starting with Slashdot, for example. I need a weapon against the styling idiots. Opera 12.x is such a weapon, Vivaldi is not, it is simply conformistic.
Opera was the only piece of proprietary sw I used, until it too burned me. It is only a matter of time before a proprietary product dies, or changes for the worse.
So, to never be burned again, source or GTFO. I'll be using Otter and Fifth even if Vivaldi were to be faster, prettier, cure cancer, and give blowjobs.
Desired feature for any browser, failing that a plugin: Something that really restricts the information the browser sends to the server, to prevent fingerprinting. There are UI switchers and the like, but I have yet to find one that just bloody stops the browser from sending identifying information.
A website that isn't trying to be bleeding edge has no need to know my OS, my browser version, what plugins I have installed, what fonts are on my system, or indeed anything at all about my system and setup. Send me standards-compliant HTML and CSS, and let my browser worry about the representation.
It seems to me that this should be a standard setting, right next to "prohibit 3rd party cookies". Why isn't it available in (afaik) any browser at all?
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
Blocking's already native via hosts: APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more w/ less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. malicious domains + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use some concurrently & see) & = nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
(Work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (an integrated part of the ip stack))
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it" - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage
* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!
APK
P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
For the BEST hosts file?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
... apkAPK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit
Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
Stopping tracking's easy w/ hosts & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit:
http://start64.com/index.php?o...
FREE & adds speed, security + reliability doing more w less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:
---
A.) Hosts do more than:
1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... )
2.) Ghostery (advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).
C.) Hosts secure vs. bad domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity
D.) Hosts files yield more:
1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
2.) Security (vs. bad domains + block spam/phish & trackers)
3.) Reliability (vs. downed, Kaminsky redirected (99% ISP DNS' = unpatched vs. it), DGA, Fastflux, & dynDNS botnets)
4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).
---
* Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
* Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
* Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)
(Work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack))
APK
P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"
...apk
Can adblock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage
* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!
APK
P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
For the BEST hosts file?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
... apk
Result? W. Palant RAN after he wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:
"Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"
Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).
I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!
Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!
He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!
ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).
I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!
Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google & Others Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk
for me, so I won't switch
It's the Print to PDF extension. It's so incredibly handy for saving reference articles. I just save the pdf to ~homedir/public_html/dir and I have it forever on my intranet.
Does this splinter/spinoff have this extension? No?
That swears it is built for the power user. It sounds like it is being marketed to hipsters.
both music and browser.
It does need the mail client and ad blockers but I like it.
It likely will cause me to abandon Opera 12.
I liked iCab. As a Web developer. It had some good page analysis tools. I even paid for it, way back when.
This is a bit dated, but fun.
If this browser turns out to be like Opera prior to switching to the current chrome base count me in. The functionality that was in the old Opera was certainly something I appreciated.
The user agent is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/40.0.2214.115 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.0.118.19
See subject: Why? I shut your mouth on hosts here http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... on hosts for BLATANTLY STUPID ERRORS you've made on them before regarding Windows Defender problems, dumbo... lol!
* :)
APK
P.S.=> Weak CHUMPS like you, make me laugh... apk
"SO - that automatic hostfile exploit of yours keeping the cops from finding your pictures of naked little boys? Or is it just that you're not important enough for the police to go after yet?" - by mmell (832646) on Tuesday May 06, 2014 @01:29PM (#46931715) FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
WHY haven't I sued the life outta you libeller? See subject line: I know you're worthless (that's right - I looked into you asshole)... & you know it too.
APK
P.S.=> YOU don't have a POT TO PISS IN & I know it (that's right, I looked into your welfare ass, loser - & libel's the "BEST YOU GOT" vs. my points on hosts files, scumbag? Please, lol... make us all laugh some more @ YOUR SORRY ASS!)
... apk
See subject & this (good luck - you'll need a miracle) http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
* :)
APK
P.S.=> You can call me "spammer" all day long but when push comes down to shove & I challenge you to prove me wrong? You always RUN, "forrest" ("Gosh: Why's that?", lol)... apk
The article doesn't seem to mention it and I can't find it at www.vivaldi.com - does anyone know what licence it's being distributed with?
Alright, so we got the thesis (Windows XP Fisher-Price UI and rotating dials you have to drag with your mouse); and we got the antithesis (return to Windows/286). Can we please have the synthesis now?
See subject: You ran from a fair challenge http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... where you were asked to show "almost ALL Ads Blocked" can do MORE than hosts files can & for less resources consumed?
* LMAO (Oh, but of COURSE you do - keep running, boy... lol!)...
APK
P.S.=> Oh, the SHAME of it... & all you can do now, is troll off topic! apk
Can adblock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phishing
10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage
* ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!
APK
P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
For the BEST hosts file?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-1 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
... apk
See subject: I'm right about you though (for sure).
APK
P.S.=> You're a penniless fool, nothing more - and you know it... apk