Unlike 16 bit to 32 bit it most simply is a recompile about 90% of the time unless you have assembly or something specific. My guess is the ugly Netscape API for the plugins which Chrome used to support until last year and of course Firefox is built upon this.
Newer atoms anyway are 64 bit. In the old days this would have been obsoleted in 3 years. I would have laughed at you in 2004 if you told me most things are still 32 bit 10 years from now. XP is still freaking alive too in a few places. I am just surprised what happened?
But the web unlike MS Word 2003 can't keep staying old and these things are slowed down by supporting obsolete platforms both hardware and software. Smooth scroll still does not work right in chrome because XP is so ancient and they still have to support it.
As browsers become more and more app platform engines it is essential to use cpu instructions included after the Pentium IV in this day and age. It is 2014 and 10 years is enough. XP is the sole reason 32 bit is still around.
Yes if it aint broke don't fix it became a conservative motto here with the nerds who are approaching middle age now, but the web is still evolving and HTML 5 and HTML 5.1 will include WebGL, more AJAX, and other things where a not just additional memory addresses but also cpu instructions which no one still uses can be utilized.
Good luck with that. Corporate apps and products coming out TODAY require IE 8 and MS specific hacks just to run. Because of this my employer will only buy software written to run on IE 8. Not W3C.
You better plan to support IE 8 until 2019 when you are ready to switch to HTML 5 or we will buy from a competitor who will. 80% of all other large companies operate the same way so good luck.
No way we will run classic shell or Windows 8. We just upgraded to Windows 7 for crying out loud! So expect jquery to be used for years to come. Many grandmas too will continue to use XP and IE 8 as well and expect the same support we received for the last half decade.
It is the slowest and built utilizing last generation tech with a noisy fan, but has mediocre graphics acceleration and 250 meg suites of drivers that can break between releases
LOTR all had battle scenes that took up half the movies that were too long. Songs were not included and plot from the book cut to make room for action and Hollywood.
The Hobbit has songs in it and has more of a personal story and A LOT MORE of what is in the books and material from The Silimarian. The 1st hobbit was a little long, but I liked the 2nd a lot and I loved Misty Mountains which had a nice theme to it that I found lacking in LOTR.
If you EVER had to do destkop support 1/3 of your calls our HELP MY PST IS CORRUPT I MUST HAVE IT ALL BACK!
It is great when the average person receives over +110 emails a day with a 100 meg quota is thrilling! People at work lose them all the time when their.pst hits 18 gigs and go all the way to SVP of IT to demand that billly gates fix it because they need every email for the past 10 years.... ok rant off.
But with the cloud quotas and.pst files are a thing of the past. At least I would want to outsource this as these users will never accept lost as an answer.
I bet Jobs would not have approved of the modern (i.e. stripped of all soul, rich textures and curves) design of ios 7. Since it's so crappy (and bright) it's bound to get pushed into all OSes.
I doubt it. Love him or hate him we all admit when it comes to asthetics and perfectionism he masters them.
He led the iPhone 1 gumdrop gorgeous icons and buttons which everyone loved and changed the smartphone world overnight. I do not see people the same way over Metro or the newer releases. I mean the competitors looked well dead and in a totally different level until Android came out.
What is soo bad that it makes people afraid of change, give headaches, cause confusion, or just makes uses apathetic to upgrade to shiny gradients, colors, shadows, animations etc?
Well I tell you one thing? I HATE BLINDING WHITE ALL CAPS office 2013. I HATE FULL SCREEN. I hate less functionality. I hate no buttons (Apple is removing all buttons in iOS 8 because it... gulps does not have real ones). Is there anyone who hates the leather bound address book as much as we all hate Metro and flat 72 pixel fonts?
Anyone like seeing only 2 videos instead of 7 on youtube on our phones due to big fonts and flat elements?
There is a reason Skuemorphism was used. Namely... IT WORKS. People can replicate real world objects quite efficiently and maybe just maybe the reason real world objects look, act, and function a particular way is because it was THE BEST way to use it. Nothing is wrong folks with pretty gradients and animations that are soothing to the reader. I can still read my MS word documents fine in older colorful versions of Office. No really I can really read without distraction when a distinction between element panes are visible in non-white anti skuemorphism crowd.
Proof: Look at the Iphone 1? The reason Apple won the 1st battle from MS and blackberry overnight is because they were pretty and drop dead gorgeous. Android won battle 2 but still Apple never got defeated.
If IOS looked like it did in 2007 it frankly wouldn't sell. People wanted the gum drops of Safari.
Linux users are incredibly prideful and niave and feel vulnerable and will not believe you when you claim you are infected. The perfect demographic.
Arstechnica had something a few months back on Linux malware. It is easier to infect linux users because they feel they are secure and do not run AV software and many run outdated versions because they do not like gnome 3
The problem is if you install java 6 and early java 7 it will install plugins for your browsers.
Visit a website and you are 0wned as it runs as full admin since javaw.exe runs as a freaking service with admin privledges!... facepalm.
I think the old myth do not click on ads is 2004 knowledge. Unfortunately recent operating systems have terrible GUI's so many run older flavors like 7 and XP which do not have the same level of protections.
It pulls my hair out to see java 5 and the same users whine I AM INFECTED week after week after week because some beancounter does not want to upgrade to save $1,000 means $10,000 in lost productivity.
Not really
Java is easy to exploit and almost everyone has an obsolete version with dozens of exploits. Double bonus if the user is running XP as a local admin.
Once I imaged a computer and opened IE to go download Firefox and other apps and my webcam went on instantly! Ad appeared doing a fake AV scan all from msn.com since computer had 0 updates yet it was 0wned.
Had to reimage again.
XP users really are in trouble and you don't need social engineering. Just IE, no updates, reader, or Java. Scary stuff.
It is why I don't run ancient operating systems, updates, and never use a root or admin account.
Macosx has its applets but on a desktop. The taskbar and start is there with applets running on a real desktop. Unplug keyboard and start stretches into full screen for tablets. DONE
I want aero back is my last complaint but that is soooo skeumorphism sigh. I think win 8 is anti skeumorphism taken to extremes.
It's a good thing none of these industrial controls require IE 6 with an unsupported OS with updates turned off requiring a live internet connection or anything stupid. For a minute that would imply mass incompetence
YEAH and I could say IE 6 is just as secure as no security in design does not mean more exploits. One of my clients who switched from XP to 7 noticed a drop in malware.
Newer kernel features reduce 0 days as evident in 7 compared
Actually Windows 9 will have HUGE impact on games as the DirectX will have mantle like performance where CPU waits on redraws are near gone. Trim in raid and PCI ssd is nice too and cortana... Well we will see but I always wanted a system like the enterprise on star trek with voice.
Except that programs are running faster on Windows XP than on Windows 7, because the OS take less CPU resources.
Bang! Idiot destroyed.
Yeah on a Pentium IV. On a modern i5 the same code will run faster as a new kernel supports better smp, page swap, ram buffers, and the runtimes use all your CPU instructions. Not part as XP had to run on Pentium IIs.
Am I in the minority of prefering the ribbon over crappy nested menus all over the place and mouse hover/ change preview?
It only took me a week to get used to it and I don't use open office because the menus are all so cumbersome.
Has Slashdotters aged into their 40s and hate change or perhaps many use Linux so much that adopting to ribbons never took place? I also like the keyboard shortcuts integrated into the ribbon when I hit alt. No mouse nor learning combos thanks to the visuals.
I have not heard anyone outside of Slashdot complain about the ribbon in years
Slashdot Mirror
Scripts are event driven? Wow had no clue
Then have both.
Unlike 16 bit to 32 bit it most simply is a recompile about 90% of the time unless you have assembly or something specific. My guess is the ugly Netscape API for the plugins which Chrome used to support until last year and of course Firefox is built upon this.
Newer atoms anyway are 64 bit. In the old days this would have been obsoleted in 3 years. I would have laughed at you in 2004 if you told me most things are still 32 bit 10 years from now. XP is still freaking alive too in a few places. I am just surprised what happened?
But the web unlike MS Word 2003 can't keep staying old and these things are slowed down by supporting obsolete platforms both hardware and software. Smooth scroll still does not work right in chrome because XP is so ancient and they still have to support it.
As browsers become more and more app platform engines it is essential to use cpu instructions included after the Pentium IV in this day and age. It is 2014 and 10 years is enough. XP is the sole reason 32 bit is still around.
Yes if it aint broke don't fix it became a conservative motto here with the nerds who are approaching middle age now, but the web is still evolving and HTML 5 and HTML 5.1 will include WebGL, more AJAX, and other things where a not just additional memory addresses but also cpu instructions which no one still uses can be utilized.
When will IE and Firefox jump ship next?
You mean the same BBY that showed the gold plated monster hdmi look so much better than the display next to it?
They crippled it on purpose and what you saw was a downgraded or scaled image to make you blow $$$$. I could be wrong but don't trust Bestbuy
But all companies operate the same. Everything out there only works in old IE
Ha!
Good luck with that. Corporate apps and products coming out TODAY require IE 8 and MS specific hacks just to run. Because of this my employer will only buy software written to run on IE 8. Not W3C.
You better plan to support IE 8 until 2019 when you are ready to switch to HTML 5 or we will buy from a competitor who will. 80% of all other large companies operate the same way so good luck.
No way we will run classic shell or Windows 8. We just upgraded to Windows 7 for crying out loud! So expect jquery to be used for years to come. Many grandmas too will continue to use XP and IE 8 as well and expect the same support we received for the last half decade.
It is the slowest and built utilizing last generation tech with a noisy fan, but has mediocre graphics acceleration and 250 meg suites of drivers that can break between releases
What's so horrible about The Hobbit?
LOTR all had battle scenes that took up half the movies that were too long. Songs were not included and plot from the book cut to make room for action and Hollywood.
The Hobbit has songs in it and has more of a personal story and A LOT MORE of what is in the books and material from The Silimarian. The 1st hobbit was a little long, but I liked the 2nd a lot and I loved Misty Mountains which had a nice theme to it that I found lacking in LOTR.
So basically what you are saying is more features are available in the flat white versions of apps?
If you EVER had to do destkop support 1/3 of your calls our HELP MY PST IS CORRUPT I MUST HAVE IT ALL BACK!
It is great when the average person receives over +110 emails a day with a 100 meg quota is thrilling! People at work lose them all the time when their .pst hits 18 gigs and go all the way to SVP of IT to demand that billly gates fix it because they need every email for the past 10 years. ... ok rant off.
But with the cloud quotas and .pst files are a thing of the past. At least I would want to outsource this as these users will never accept lost as an answer.
I bet Jobs would not have approved of the modern (i.e. stripped of all soul, rich textures and curves) design of ios 7. Since it's so crappy (and bright) it's bound to get pushed into all OSes.
I doubt it. Love him or hate him we all admit when it comes to asthetics and perfectionism he masters them.
He led the iPhone 1 gumdrop gorgeous icons and buttons which everyone loved and changed the smartphone world overnight. I do not see people the same way over Metro or the newer releases. I mean the competitors looked well dead and in a totally different level until Android came out.
What is soo bad that it makes people afraid of change, give headaches, cause confusion, or just makes uses apathetic to upgrade to shiny gradients, colors, shadows, animations etc?
Well I tell you one thing? I HATE BLINDING WHITE ALL CAPS office 2013. I HATE FULL SCREEN. I hate less functionality. I hate no buttons (Apple is removing all buttons in iOS 8 because it ... gulps does not have real ones). Is there anyone who hates the leather bound address book as much as we all hate Metro and flat 72 pixel fonts?
Anyone like seeing only 2 videos instead of 7 on youtube on our phones due to big fonts and flat elements?
There is a reason Skuemorphism was used. Namely ... IT WORKS. People can replicate real world objects quite efficiently and maybe just maybe the reason real world objects look, act, and function a particular way is because it was THE BEST way to use it. Nothing is wrong folks with pretty gradients and animations that are soothing to the reader. I can still read my MS word documents fine in older colorful versions of Office. No really I can really read without distraction when a distinction between element panes are visible in non-white anti skuemorphism crowd.
Proof: Look at the Iphone 1? The reason Apple won the 1st battle from MS and blackberry overnight is because they were pretty and drop dead gorgeous. Android won battle 2 but still Apple never got defeated.
If IOS looked like it did in 2007 it frankly wouldn't sell. People wanted the gum drops of Safari.
Linux users are incredibly prideful and niave and feel vulnerable and will not believe you when you claim you are infected. The perfect demographic.
Arstechnica had something a few months back on Linux malware. It is easier to infect linux users because they feel they are secure and do not run AV software and many run outdated versions because they do not like gnome 3
The problem is if you install java 6 and early java 7 it will install plugins for your browsers.
Visit a website and you are 0wned as it runs as full admin since javaw.exe runs as a freaking service with admin privledges! ... facepalm.
I think the old myth do not click on ads is 2004 knowledge. Unfortunately recent operating systems have terrible GUI's so many run older flavors like 7 and XP which do not have the same level of protections.
It pulls my hair out to see java 5 and the same users whine I AM INFECTED week after week after week because some beancounter does not want to upgrade to save $1,000 means $10,000 in lost productivity.
Not really
Java is easy to exploit and almost everyone has an obsolete version with dozens of exploits. Double bonus if the user is running XP as a local admin.
Once I imaged a computer and opened IE to go download Firefox and other apps and my webcam went on instantly! Ad appeared doing a fake AV scan all from msn.com since computer had 0 updates yet it was 0wned.
Had to reimage again.
XP users really are in trouble and you don't need social engineering. Just IE, no updates, reader, or Java. Scary stuff.
It is why I don't run ancient operating systems, updates, and never use a root or admin account.
Macosx has its applets but on a desktop. The taskbar and start is there with applets running on a real desktop. Unplug keyboard and start stretches into full screen for tablets. DONE
I want aero back is my last complaint but that is soooo skeumorphism sigh. I think win 8 is anti skeumorphism taken to extremes.
What if they are like the IOS applets in MacOSX where the emphasis is on the desktop?
As long as things do not go all full screen closed door syndrome I do not see it as a problem
It's a good thing none of these industrial controls require IE 6 with an unsupported OS with updates turned off requiring a live internet connection or anything stupid. For a minute that would imply mass incompetence
YEAH and I could say IE 6 is just as secure as no security in design does not mean more exploits. One of my clients who switched from XP to 7 noticed a drop in malware.
Newer kernel features reduce 0 days as evident in 7 compared
Actually Windows 9 will have HUGE impact on games as the DirectX will have mantle like performance where CPU waits on redraws are near gone. Trim in raid and PCI ssd is nice too and cortana ... Well we will see but I always wanted a system like the enterprise on star trek with voice.
I can't find anything to fix. 7 is better and has more features and takes advantage of modern hardware
Except that programs are running faster on Windows XP than on Windows 7, because the OS take less CPU resources.
Bang! Idiot destroyed.
Yeah on a Pentium IV. On a modern i5 the same code will run faster as a new kernel supports better smp, page swap, ram buffers, and the runtimes use all your CPU instructions. Not part as XP had to run on Pentium IIs.
Yeah that's real secure. FYI your chrome is not even sandboxed on it because the kernel is so ancient.
Am I in the minority of prefering the ribbon over crappy nested menus all over the place and mouse hover/ change preview?
It only took me a week to get used to it and I don't use open office because the menus are all so cumbersome.
Has Slashdotters aged into their 40s and hate change or perhaps many use Linux so much that adopting to ribbons never took place? I also like the keyboard shortcuts integrated into the ribbon when I hit alt. No mouse nor learning combos thanks to the visuals.
I have not heard anyone outside of Slashdot complain about the ribbon in years