Ask Slashdot: What Would You Do With Half a Rack of Server Space?
New submitter Christian Gainsbrugh (3766717) writes I work at a company that is currently transitioning all our servers into the cloud. In the interim we have half a rack of server space in a great datacenter that will soon be sitting completely idle for the next few months until our lease runs out. Right now the space is occupied by around 8 HP g series servers, a watchguard xtm firewall, Cisco switch and some various other equipment. All in all there are probably around 20 or so physical XEON processors, and probably close to 10 tb of storage among all the machines. We have a dedicated 10 mbs connection that is burstable to 100mbs.
I'm curious what Slashdot readers would do if they were in a similar situation. Is there anything productive that could be done with these resources? Obviously something revenue generating is great, but even if there is something novel that could be done with these servers we would be interested in putting them to good use.
I'm curious what Slashdot readers would do if they were in a similar situation. Is there anything productive that could be done with these resources? Obviously something revenue generating is great, but even if there is something novel that could be done with these servers we would be interested in putting them to good use.
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...a baking tray full of them for HA obvs.
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Keep everything ready, so you can switch back when the cloud services fail and/or your management team changes.
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your ass will thank you when your cloud goes kaput.
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Build a darknet. Maybe a TOR router? Donate CPU time to charity or some great number crunching project.
Only the dead have seen the end of War. - Plato
There are lots of firms who buy used equipment. Get a quote from them. Sell the surplus equipment and buy something you do need.
Transition all our servers from the cloud back to your physical servers.
Maybe mine a coin or two?
Unless you're getting power donated as well, you definitely should not be accepting every machine you can get.
If this stuff more than a few years old, the power bill is going to quickly eclipse the cost differential of better hardware.
Electricity costs vary, but a ballpark of 1 watt/year = $1 is roughly right around here. That doesn't include cooling. A probably conservative but very rough ballpark power estimate would be 3kW for that equipment...I didn't count hard drives, the firewall, the router, etc.
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Make a mini-grow-op.They'll never flag the extra power used for lamps.
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"Imagine a beowulf cluster of these"
If you think good will for your company would go further than a few cryptocoins, you could do World Community Grid.
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I would help Skynet become self-aware by adding more capacity. Nothing bad could ever come from that, right?
Ebay! An then you have the space for a pool-room, a porn-station, a man-cave or another dozen things with a dash in it.
With the numbers that ASICs are doing these days can you even get one coin using CPUs alone?
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
do it
The case has already been made against the assemblage of substandard HP garbage occupying half a freakin rack! The person that was blamed for this probably doesn't even work at this company anymore. The best thing you can do is contact the sales guy at the data center and form an unnofficial alliance and work out some preliminary arrangement for a kickback when you reopen your account after the cloud plan goes up in smoke. Most importantly, tell no one about this. You have obviously stumbled into another exploit of the BOFH. Stay out of the office till this blows over, you don't seem to be the intended target, and are messing with forces you don't understand.
You could fold some serious work units and help the guys out at Folding@Home (folding.stanford.edu) enormously...
As far as I know there is no such thing as the HP 'g' series. The 'g' stands for 'generation' and is used for all their llines. HP uses two letters for the line, for example BL, DL or ML.
Save the planet, power the systems down.
If you want to make some money on them you could mine bitcoin, provided the power is already paid for and you don't care about the environment. Don't expect to make much though, it might not even be worth the time it will take you to set it up.
The only other way I can think of making a profit is renting the servers out. Good luck finding somebody that wants to pay enough to make it worth your while, virtual servers are dirt cheap. You already know that, otherwise you wouldn't be moving to the cloud.
If you want to do something nice for the internet-community you should run TOR on those nodes.
SETI@home or similar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu...
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According to legend at one Fortune 500 company I worked at in Silicon Valley, a data center administrator ran an Internet Service Provider (ISP) when dial-up was still king by using the spare server and bandwidth capacity. This gig went on for a number of years until someone in the corporate office noticed that the data center was far more active than it should have been and ordered an audit. The administrator skipped town and retired to Mexico as a millionaire before the audit got completed. Not wishing to draw public attention to this oversight, the ISP went away and the data center got a new administrator.
What Would You Do With Half a Rack of Server Space?
As long as it was a fresh half rack I would cover it in a nice rub and slow roast it for about 8-12 hours on low heat. Then I would slice and serve it to 3-4 of my friends with a side of asparagus, fresh rolls, and a nice Chianti.
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Donate that CPU time to SETI@Home. "A single message from space will show that it is possible to live through technological adolescence. . . . It is possible that the future of human civilization depends on the receipt of interstellar messages." Carl Sagan
I doubt you can do much with a 10 milli-bit per second connection...
(Sorry, but I'm a scientist, units are important to me...)
Donate to TOR
You have the makings of a mini-cluster there. Take the opportunity to learn to install/maintain/query hadoop.
Folding@Home
SETI@Home
These guys can ALWAYS use more cycles.
Ignore them and get on with life?
Keep everything ready, so you can switch back when the cloud services fail and/or your management team changes.
Did you miss the part about them trying to cut opex? *siiiiiigh*
Even that aside...Maybe the latter, but not the former. One of the most common mistakes of failover environments is using the "old stuff" for failover/backup.
That works great, until you exceed the computing/storage capacity/bandwidth of the original hardware.
Let's say in a year traffic is up 30%. Something goes wrong, big time, with Teh Cloudz. You've done a good job of keeping the old hardware current and replicated. You 'flip the switch'...and the old environment promptly chokes...oops.
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I'd install Eucalyptus and develop an application. Then when my lease ran out I'd redeploy it on AWS.
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This all depends any a number of factors. I can think of quite a few uses for half a rack.
The first question, asked elsewhere in this thread, is whether or not the cost of power is included. If you are also paying for power, it might well be best to shut them down and leave them idle as a cost saving measure (which is why, I assume, that you are moving to the cloud in the first place).
Now, if the cost of running these machines for a few months is not a concern, here's a few ideas:
1: Do you currently host any office resources (fileservers, authentication, backups, VPNs, etc...) in your office in a wiring closet? This could be a perfect opportunity to showcase how some of these might better be handled in a proper datacentre.
2: Are there any projects still on the drawing board, which have been hitherto delayed due to a lack of resources? You could use this time to develop a proof of concept.
3: Further to #2, this is a perfect opportunity to build a DIY private cloud. Generally, the barrier to entry to these projects is the sticker shock associated with the initial cost. An empty half rack full of unused servers is perfect for this, and could be an excellent proof of concept for management. Done correctly, your private cloud could exist as a backup to your public cloud.
4: If this is a company that does any kind of software development, this is a chance to build a prototype developmnent cluster as well. You could even build a development cluster on top of the aforementioned virtualization cluster.
5: Do you do business with anyone, or do you have any sister companies that are in need of temporary rack space? You could conceivably rent this space out (and even the hardware, too), to a firm that needs some quick and temporary rack space, and possibly even turn a profit, if this is permitted under your agreement with the datacentre.
Essentially, if I had half a rack of unused servers I would use them as a way to prototype a project I've been wanting to do for a while but until now have not had the resources to build. Failing that, I would try to rent it out. But be careful - do not build anything on these servers that you might become dependent on; this might be viewed by management as a challenge to their authority. Make sure that whatever you use it for is temporary.
"Government is like fire; a handy servant, but a dangerous master." -- George Washington
If it is in San Francisco area, take out the servers, furnish the rack, and rent it out.
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
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If this were for my company, I'd want to do two things with the hardware. First, use it to back up the cloud environment. Maybe not the applications, but definitely the data. Disaster recovery is always paramount in the corporate world.
Second, I'd want the hardware used to try out some new software, techniques, file systems, media servers, etc. It's never too late to learn new skills, and what better to learn on than servers you don't mind wiping if they get messed up. Using them to mine bitcoins is far less valuable (in a corporate environment) in the long run than using them to learn new skills, and exposure to new software.
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is money all you can think of? Greedy capitalists. How about donating the space to a charity for free? Just a thought.
I hear there are lots of businesses willing to pay good money for it.
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Um... how?
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With such a loose organization, I question how much value there will be in being able to use such a temporary resource. Great, we can make a backup/archive copy of that website, in case it goes down. We'll make that copy on this half-rack of computers that is almost certain to go down in a few months (or several if we're lucky).
Whatever gets stored on that system is going to need to be getting archived soon.
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obviously a half-height rackmounted beverage cooler of your choice.
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Be a freedom supporter.... run a Tor exit relay.
https://www.torproject.org/
If its in say LD4 in London, or NY7 in New Jersey then I'd make a crapton of money leasing it out or selling VMs to brokerages. If its in ho-hum Dallas Rackspace somewhere or whatever then its not that interesting. Still, its a lot of iron to be idle in a big DS for that long. You could run a pretty serious web site on that sort of infrastructure. Maybe find some startup and leverage it, give them a leg up in return for some cheap equity. If it goes bust its no worse than leaving the rack idle and if it takes off you make some bucks.
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You could install Openstack or something similar and create an internal provisioning system for business use cases.
You could also use the stack for Automation.
Either way, the HW is available and flexible.
I don't know if those machines are capable of competing for bitcoins, but it might be fun to try. Years ago I used to configure underused computers to do distributed computing stuff like SETI@home. Now there are programs like Folding@home where you can donate resources to medical research.
Or mine bit coins maybe. Could help pay for the remaining lease term.
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Remove the unused CPUs and disks, fill the free space with beer bottles, and take advantage of the cooling capabilities of the rack!
alarm spider web thingies to protect what's left. They seem to attract really cool burglars like Catherine Zeta Jones, Antonio Banderas and that guy from Ocean's Twelve.
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
Set something up to help researchers with protein folding simulation.
http://folding.stanford.edu/
You could always set them up to do proteine folding, something like SETI@home, help out artists by letting the machines do rendering by Renderfarm.fi
Contact a local University or College that offers computer animation and let them render away the student films.
If you want more servers like that, Wierd Stuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale, CA, has the same HP series G Xeon servers for $189. (2 3GHz quad-core Xeons per server! Hard drives are extra, but cheap.) Wierd Stuff has huge supplies of previous-generation data center equipment.
It's amazing how cheap computer hardware is now.
Nothing. I would get out of the business altogether. The IT industry is on the verge of massive consolidation, much like the auto industry consolidation that resulted in the panacea of uniformity that we have when we visit auto dealerships. We are on the verge of handing control over all of our IT interests to a small number of oligarchs, and your little half-rack server farm of whatever will be completely irrelevant, no matter what you do with it. Just quit. Do something else.
Well, Linus T. and I would. Between our therapy sessions we'd play.
I like putting my idle processors to work using IBM's World Community Grid. Basically get them cranking on solutions to various scientific projects submitted to the IBM for calculation on member processors.
Tor! One less NSA exit node we have the better...
I know how you can generate revenue! Sell it all to me for $100.
Since you're asking this question, I'll assume that you have the freedom to do whatever you want with them. We'll assume they're your servers, personally. In that case, keeping them at the ready in case your cloud solution turns into a hurricane is a great idea that was mentioned previously.
Otherwise, a couple of things come to mind:
1) Start a web hosting company, using Linux and cPanel
2) Start a Private VPN service
3) Beowulf Cluster! (this is slashdot, after all...) or the modern version: OpenStack
4) Profit!
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Or terrarium if that's more your thing
mine bitcoin?
There are a multitude of scientific endeavours you can run like SETI@home or another worthy @home program. Never mind a few months of "cash" generation when you can help solve some of the scientific community's big problems :)
Pushing this even further --- I have inherited a (mostly empty) 3,000 square foot data center (almost Tier III - but it shares a wall with the outside or so I'm told). I'm using (maybe) two racks. Any thoughts on what to do with the empty space?
A half server rack should be enough space to install a mini-fridge and stock it with beer.
Not a network expert, but wouldn't some sort of internet proxy with caching be a simple way to help?
Other than that, the sad truth is that obsolete hardware is usually most productive when it's not using up valuable energy.
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You should find out what politician your management is sucking the dick of and ask him which one of his "public services" could use some CPU time. Do it right and maybe you can be in the photo op...
Well that's what my employer's management would do...
Run a contest or application to access school run experiments or projects. Since most universities have their own access, I'd suggest high-school type stuff. Would be a great help and educational experience for them and great PR for the company.
Try to count the number of legal positions in the game of Go, as described on http://www.cwi.nl/~tromp/go/le... How much memory is available per machine?
Enough said.
How the heck were you planning to fit a pool room within a half-rack?
Oh, and the only reason that there's a dash in "pool-room" is because you inappropriately decided to put one there.
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Rent out the processing/storage as a cloud service!
You could use the hardware to build a cloud service and sell it to gullible businesses that don't know any better than to store their corporate data on such a service. Just to be on the safe side, you could back it up to your new cloud storage, along with your own data. Hmmm...
Rearrange your server room so that the bottom-most servers from each cabinet are moved into the open space. Then you won't lose as much hardware when your data center floods due to global warming.
I'd forget about it, let the lease run out.
First, I'd be afraid that anything I tried to use it for would become 'mission critical' once it existed, then I'm the one 6 months from now saying "Yeah... we can't get rid of that as we planned in the budget..."
Second, if you ever need something like that again, would you rather lease all new shiny stuff, or mess with rebuilding what you have as leftovers into something usable?
Its legacy stuff. get rid of it.
If you must, do something like run the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search on it.
and quit worring about wasting time on some goofy me me me project that's only temporary
If you EVER had to do destkop support 1/3 of your calls our HELP MY PST IS CORRUPT I MUST HAVE IT ALL BACK!
It is great when the average person receives over +110 emails a day with a 100 meg quota is thrilling! People at work lose them all the time when their .pst hits 18 gigs and go all the way to SVP of IT to demand that billly gates fix it because they need every email for the past 10 years. ... ok rant off.
But with the cloud quotas and .pst files are a thing of the past. At least I would want to outsource this as these users will never accept lost as an answer.
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Since you don't have a specific use for these servers, it's best to find someone who does. This could be a godsend for another small company that will be able to start it's services immediately rather than waiting for presumably more expensive new servers to arrive.
-nt
Nah, they'll just demand that you do something anyway. They'll go ballistic when the cloud service has a glitch and be absolutely certain you could fix it if you just tried hard enough..
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You should use them to host various flavours of your resume, because once everything is settled in to the cloud, your employment will be the next thing to expire.
For Bitcoin, ASIC is the only way to go, but most of the interesting alternative coins are designed to be hard or impossible to build ASIC miners for. (They're also designed to be GPU-miner-hostile, but some of those have been worked around.) One of the tradeoffs with that is that CPU-only mining is botnet-friendly; it's harder to abuse botnet machines' GPUs (especially in cloud servers or routers that don't have GPUs.)
I avoid the whole problem by mining Dogecoin; it's close enough to no value that it's seldom worth stealing (though there was a botnet in the news recently that actually got $200K from mining it.)
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collect kiddie porn and make honey pot. harvest IP addresses and blackmail all the CEO's and 1% out of their worth.
Make a 10 TB version of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh7lp9umG2I HE-MAN HEYEAYEA
You could consider donating server space and bandwidth to Openstreetmap projects. There's a wiki for OSM but it's quite confusing at times. Then there's Nominatim, the name search; it requires lots of computer resources. Open source routing from OSM data can be done with OSRM, which is quite fast.
Perhaps extracts of OSM data for downloading would be nice, eg. just roads, waters; see what's already available.
I'd load renderers on them and melt their wires....
There is no ' in GMs. Not in LEDs. No in MBAs. Not in DICKWADs. And your car analogy suck'S. Spend more time trying to come up with passing car analogie'S.
Depending on where it is, it might make a nice-sized New York studio apartment. You could get $2500/month.
You could use https://secure.slicify.com/ to sell some of that processing power for real $.
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If you don't use it to generate revenue, use it to further humanitarian research. Pick a project that appeals to you/your corporate masters.
I also recommend humanitarian research via BOINC, specifically using the World Community Grid, which hosts an excellent selection of worthy projects. https://secure.worldcommunityg...
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